"I'm getting farmed on ladder, everyone is beating the Jack-o team I've been running by running lottery units. If only there was an Anti-anti-Jack-o team." But actually thanks for the tips for scrubs like me! It always helps when trying to improve
SG always supports Cleave and debuff meta, and releasing units for them , while cleansers and anti cleave units are ignored, After Kayron buff , we saw nothing, even ML Roana supporting cleave.
Because aggro players are typically whales. The fundamental problem with most anti cleave units that they release as that they require a win condition or prompt to be effective at their job. Karina is nothing if the enemy target downs her first, same can be said for Arrowell and Destina. Edward can be overwhelmed and his s2 usless. Belian and Kayron are luck based. If their counters don't proc. You're dead in the water. Rimiru needs buffs otherwise he is completely useless. The Poliitus and Celiene passive is easily circumvented and the same can now be said for Bene and ML Kayron. None of these gameplay flaws factor in bans. Meanwhile, cleave/aggro still gets to just do what they do with little limitations regardless of the opponents draft BECAUSE there are a disproportionate amount of cleave/aggro characters to tank down and anticleave units. Also cleave units are being released with soul burns that ignore effect resistance and give additional turns, and by design those units move first. Anti cleave in an of itself is a flawed strategy due to smile gates battle mechanics and them continuing to produce overloaded cleave units.
Tested it out this morning... I believe a "Thank You" is in order. So... BRUH THANK GOD FOR YOU, THANK YOU. HALLELLUJAH PRAISE THE LORD! aight, I'm done.
How did R&L give Ran an extra turn if his s2 already gives him an extra turn? Why would they stack on top of each other? It doesn't say +1 turn, it says "one more turn". God I hate this game sometimes.
ya if you watched last video none of those units really work vs jacko cleave despite the debuff counts. you have to get a little out of the box with solutions.
@@_shadiness depends on postban. Assuming zio ban and peira needs to initiate, she just has to s1 with chains to activate jacko and jacko will pop cavel. If jacko ban then 40% chance Ed will bounce back something that stops you from killing his whole team. I explained this in the previous video.
@@frostfire854 They won't pick more than one anti-evasion unit because that might compromise their cleave and how much they can draft to deal with Senya. But if they do, you can always just ban one and focus on the other during the match.
mldb only good on her for anticleave because it gives atk buff before s2 which when she uses s2 without it she gets attack buff after s2, I use her arti but ded or shepherd of the hollow best in slot
Nobody shud b mad at you for dat draft bcoz it's ther in the game and Ur doin Ur due diligence by telling us all these drafts and I am a std player with none of the units of the Jacko drafts built and I went against tht draft lost mostly but as a gamer v hv to work out the counter together valky juz helped find a counter to the draft bcoz if it comes to light only then v will get counters without tht some PPL will juz keep farming freelo with the same draft
Ahh yes. How do you counter this aggro draft? Rely purely on rng. Greeeeeat. I don’t have C Lilias or Senya either, and I can only take Peira from them ;~;
@Valky I mean, yeah, I get that, but if your entire game plan is to just hope and pray, is that really a good game plan? I would understand it more if the rng was a helpful factor, but in this scenario, it's literally your only way to win. Just hope they don't crit and hope Rem counters. That's literally it.
@@Valky Sorry, I don't mean to be rude or anything. I just wish there was a more decisive counter to this aggro comp than just hope. I've been getting terrorized by it.
@@djsanders4813 see I know what you mean. but this swings a 0-100 matchup to over >75%. I thought that was stupid too but a lot of people myself included play adin ffs. 75%>70% win condition so I'd be stupid not to take that
@Valky Fair, fair. I am indeed an Adin enjoyer, so that does make sense. I just hope Summer Luluca isn't another cleave unit cuz I actually wanna be able to use her lmao.
its simple to counter back this , 1 2pick zio and adin/stena/aravi if u saw ppl overreact pick so much anti cleave u just turn back to stanrd team with your 3 4 5pick , I recommend play this cleave style when u are last pick side , the first pick side ppl he will look like maybe llias+anticleave*2 and u will picking like zio+adin/stena/aravi&still got 345pick left its very nice to turn back stanrd team to fuck up they useless 123pick(llias+anticleave*2)
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"I'm getting farmed on ladder, everyone is beating the Jack-o team I've been running by running lottery units.
If only there was an Anti-anti-Jack-o team."
But actually thanks for the tips for scrubs like me! It always helps when trying to improve
SG always supports Cleave and debuff meta, and releasing units for them , while cleansers and anti cleave units are ignored, After Kayron buff , we saw nothing, even ML Roana supporting cleave.
Because aggro players are typically whales. The fundamental problem with most anti cleave units that they release as that they require a win condition or prompt to be effective at their job.
Karina is nothing if the enemy target downs her first, same can be said for Arrowell and Destina.
Edward can be overwhelmed and his s2 usless.
Belian and Kayron are luck based. If their counters don't proc. You're dead in the water.
Rimiru needs buffs otherwise he is completely useless.
The Poliitus and Celiene passive is easily circumvented and the same can now be said for Bene and ML Kayron.
None of these gameplay flaws factor in bans. Meanwhile, cleave/aggro still gets to just do what they do with little limitations regardless of the opponents draft BECAUSE there are a disproportionate amount of cleave/aggro characters to tank down and anticleave units. Also cleave units are being released with soul burns that ignore effect resistance and give additional turns, and by design those units move first.
Anti cleave in an of itself is a flawed strategy due to smile gates battle mechanics and them continuing to produce overloaded cleave units.
I saw the video and just faced a jack'o clave ッ. Thanks for the tips!
Tested it out this morning... I believe a "Thank You" is in order. So... BRUH THANK GOD FOR YOU, THANK YOU. HALLELLUJAH PRAISE THE LORD!
aight, I'm done.
I love your advices, Valky, thanks a lot!
8:05 senya does make it quite hard (✷‿✷) thanks for the vid uncle
Great vid ty
How did R&L give Ran an extra turn if his s2 already gives him an extra turn? Why would they stack on top of each other? It doesn't say +1 turn, it says "one more turn". God I hate this game sometimes.
ahh my draft for last two seasons has been discovered (minus the rem)! lol
I have some methods to punish cooky cleavers,Politis,Celine ,Benimaru,SCerato ,Edward , and Dilibet.
ya if you watched last video none of those units really work vs jacko cleave despite the debuff counts. you have to get a little out of the box with solutions.
@@Valky oh isee thanks
@@Valky Won't Peira not be able to S2 into Edward?
@@_shadiness depends on postban. Assuming zio ban and peira needs to initiate, she just has to s1 with chains to activate jacko and jacko will pop cavel. If jacko ban then 40% chance Ed will bounce back something that stops you from killing his whole team. I explained this in the previous video.
Only 3 molas?! Daang it I wasted so many molas on my fat cat and he still doesn't work😭😭😭 but now I know I need a lot more speed instead of health
How do you deal with zahhak picks?
What if they pick anti evasion units like zahhak
in the example shown they DID have an anti-evasion unit in LPK. as shown, just ban.
@@Valky if they pick more than 1 anti-evasion do we just pivot ?
@@frostfire854 They won't pick more than one anti-evasion unit because that might compromise their cleave and how much they can draft to deal with Senya.
But if they do, you can always just ban one and focus on the other during the match.
Is MLDB the best in slot artifact for Adin instead of her own exclusive artifact?
mldb only good on her for anticleave because it gives atk buff before s2 which when she uses s2 without it she gets attack buff after s2, I use her arti but ded or shepherd of the hollow best in slot
What if we got a frenzy that lowers speed of any unit over 290 😂
then sg have no reason to sell leif and burning passion packs to whales, and then who's paying for the servers?
So none of you have Elena/politis? I’m pretty sure it stop this Jack-o combo, even if one gets banned.
No Elena and no degen politis so she just gets stunned
Can u explain how? I have both but dont know how to use again them
Nobody shud b mad at you for dat draft bcoz it's ther in the game and Ur doin Ur due diligence by telling us all these drafts and I am a std player with none of the units of the Jacko drafts built and I went against tht draft lost mostly but as a gamer v hv to work out the counter together valky juz helped find a counter to the draft bcoz if it comes to light only then v will get counters without tht some PPL will juz keep farming freelo with the same draft
Longest sentence ever.
Repeat that in English please
What do you do if your opponent prebans Senya and/or ACart?
If those units get prebanned, you'll know exactly what type of comp they're going for.
Just ban Jack’O. Hehehe. I luv that hero, but I hate her if she’s on the opponent’s 🤣
I hate cleave so much
Ahh yes. How do you counter this aggro draft? Rely purely on rng. Greeeeeat. I don’t have C Lilias or Senya either, and I can only take Peira from them ;~;
it's really just maximizing RNG so much so that you're >50%.
@Valky I mean, yeah, I get that, but if your entire game plan is to just hope and pray, is that really a good game plan? I would understand it more if the rng was a helpful factor, but in this scenario, it's literally your only way to win. Just hope they don't crit and hope Rem counters. That's literally it.
@@Valky Sorry, I don't mean to be rude or anything. I just wish there was a more decisive counter to this aggro comp than just hope. I've been getting terrorized by it.
@@djsanders4813 see I know what you mean. but this swings a 0-100 matchup to over >75%. I thought that was stupid too but a lot of people myself included play adin ffs. 75%>70% win condition so I'd be stupid not to take that
@Valky Fair, fair. I am indeed an Adin enjoyer, so that does make sense. I just hope Summer Luluca isn't another cleave unit cuz I actually wanna be able to use her lmao.
its simple to counter back this , 1 2pick zio and adin/stena/aravi if u saw ppl overreact pick so much anti cleave u just turn back to stanrd team with your 3 4 5pick , I recommend play this cleave style when u are last pick side , the first pick side ppl he will look like maybe llias+anticleave*2 and u will picking like zio+adin/stena/aravi&still got 345pick left its very nice to turn back stanrd team to fuck up they useless 123pick(llias+anticleave*2)
P R O M O S M
People are angry cuz Jack-o cleave is disgusting
I am angry cuz you didn't give credit to rigbe for the draft
We are not the same