OTH: Bloodborne vs. Gothic Horror - Reanimating a Genre
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2018
- Bloodborne has long been credited for using Gothic Horror as a way to hide the true, Lovecraftian horrors of the game. But dismissing this aspect of the game includes dismissing the importance of Byrgenwerth and the kinds of horrors it represents. In my last video, I analyzed the importance of the myth, in this video, I analyze the importance of science in the world of Bloodborne.
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Gothic (The New Critical Idiom) - Fred Botting
The Routledge Companion to Gothic - Catherine Spooner and Emma McEvoy
Reasoning through madness: the detective in
Gothic crime fiction - Michelle Miranda
DOCUMENTS OF CULTURE, DOCUMENTS OF BARBARISM:
GOTHIC LITERATURE, EMPIRICISM, AND THE RISE OF PROFESSIONAL SCIENCE - Andrew Biorn Grace
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The wonderful thing about Bloodborne is that, the entirely of the game,through monster designs and story, is all a tribute to the horror genre in general.
We have werewolfs, vampires, mad scienties, lovecraftian horrors, haunting places, body horror, medical horror, psychological horror, surreal horror, religious horror and even slasher horror. Even the butcher set invoques this imagenary as its an obvious homenage towards Leatherface from "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Even the first part of the game, with the sunset sun giving you not a comfortable feeling like most horror stories, but a very eerie one, just like in the Chainsaw Massacre original movie. And even Japanese Horror through references and homages of the works of Junji Ito and the manga Berserk from Kentaro Miura.
More amanzangly, it manages to combine all of these horror aspects in a very organic way without feeling disjointed or gimmicky. The title Bloodborne invoques horror imagenery because of the blood title in it, after all, what unites almost all of the horror genre is blood, either directly or otherwise. The game by on itself is an enourmous, spine chilling, lovely crafted, tribute to the horror genre.
Same
@LokiRudder I think he's referring to the fact that he's impressed that Bloodborne's usage of horror is both broad, nearly all-encompassing, and yet not intrusive.
Which I agree. Bloodborne made vampires and werewolves genuinely horrifying and terrifying once more.
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There's one more type: "water horror" or whatever the fishing hamlet's gothic elements specifically fit into.
@@BellBOYd128 probably still lovcraftian, what with the shadow at innsmouth and all that jazz
Grant us eyes, grant us eyes, SolePorpoise and cleanse us of our beastly idiocy!
ITS ALIIIIIIIIIIVE
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I think it's also interesting that the blood-drunk hunter's eye has a collapsed pupil, and is useless. They can no longer make discoveries because they've reverted to their bestial natures
I saw...that furry image you snuck in.
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Where?
Umm, asking for research purposes of course.
3:46
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it's in there for almost 20 frames. pretty hard to miss. should've put it in for 1 or 2 frames.
That was really well done and I enjoyed it a lot! On the other hand, I think you fail to mention that a large majority of blood borne centers around the unseen- even after the blood moon descends, a large amount of the forces in the game remain unseen. Mainly, the main god Oedeon, the one possibly pulling all the strings. As well, Mergo’s wet nurse and mergo herself are relatively unseen- mergo’s wet nurse being nothing but cloth, symbolizing the unseen. I think the unseen in blood borne creates suspense and drives the plot but I also think it developed a theme in line with the work of lovecraft that human experience is limited. Even after the amgdalyas are revealed, the fabric of the world and how it works is still mysterious. I think that this whole idea could be developed in another video, as the dichotomy of the seen vs unseen in this game is really interesting. Another thing: eyes in this game can also represent a symbol of futility, as the people of byrgenwyrth took “lining your brain with eyes” much too literally. The symbol of eyes shows the futility of man to try to understand the universe, as man will never fully understand. But anyway, your video was fantastic! Stuff like this is why I’m subscribed to the channel and why I love bloodborne as a a game.
That piano version of City Ruins - Ray's of Light from NIeR Automata OST fits perfectly :) Great video dude, I was missing a good bloodborne video!!!
Bloodborne and Nier: Automata... Two of the most important games of all time.
yeah the OST for that game is amazing
ahhh nice, i was thinking what it is but i couldnt figure until i read your line! now i remember :D
Man I got so emotional when that song came on I couldn't even concentrate on the vid anymore
I thought I couldn’t be convinced this game was any better...
I love your content!
SicParvisMagna yeah I know right,but such a beautiful and well rounded discussion on the feel you get from playing made think just how much I was in awe of the environments and the real horror I felt at the beginning after I have gotten used to taken out the more beastly town folk and for the first time had a great deal of blood echoes I come across a figure dressed in black with their back turned I said to my self easy prey and did a stealth attack,but then I saw and heard that this was no beast but another hunter like me and then I realised that I was indeed becoming a beast, and the feeling of regret as I spent my time trying to find redemption and just trying to make since of all the madness around me throughout the rest of the game for me Bloodborne was Gothic horror at it's finest.
Greatness from small begginings
That Nier Automata soundtrack!
Both of your Bloodborne videos are just amazing. I really love how you approached this idea of provoking the mysteries through scientific observation by comparing it to "the spirit of Byrgenwerth". It would have been amazing if you explored how these themes show in the DLC, specially through the experiments in Research Hall and the violation of the Fishing Hamlet, and the hunting of Kos, in search for eyes. Nevertheless, your work is amazing and inspiring.
I'm so sad just found this dude today and he hasnt posted in a year :,(
Haven't posted but still working my ass off on the next video. New video's in the production phase-early in the production phase-but it will be out in the next several weeks. :)
@@SolePorpoise Heh, several weeks.
Oh well, I'm subbed now and eagerly waiting :)
Same just found this channel and Im already waiting for the new stuff
SolePorpoise the return of the king is nigh
@@SolePorpoise just saw this 8 months later lol I cant wait to see what masterpiece you create this time
Also one of the influences of the Gothic genre were the medieval ruins. As they presented an eerie mysterious allure to them.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one :D
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3:46 had me in stitches
Oh my god what a fantastic analysis. Beautifully done, and I look forward to more!
These videos are brilliant! I am a firm believer in video games as a literary medium, and your videos do a fantastic job of conveying that point. Keep up the great work!
this is so lovely!!! i loved your other bloodborne video and i was so happy to see you elaborate on this game! bloodborne will always be among my favourite games and i love hearing these types of insights into the game! thank you for this wonderful video!
Yes! I remember watching you stream to gather footage a few months ago, and I wondered if you’d forgotten about it. Great video! I’m glad your back man. :)
Bro Ive missed you. Bloodborne is one of my favorite games and ive been thirsting for new essays about it. Thank you! You gave me some great story ideas as well.
I adored your previous Bloodborne video. It was simply excellent. And this was very good too! I loved that you mixed 2 of my favorite things in this world: Final Fantasy music and Bloodborne analysis.
Dude! I never thought you'd make another video on Soulsborne because your previous two were just so well articulated! I think you're honestly one of my favourite analysts of story, etc in games. Subbed ever since your first Bloodborne video!
Man I've been looking forward to your videos 😍 Awesome video as usual !
WHY YOU GOTTA DROP A BIG TIDDY FURSUIT ON ME LIKE THAT
I was so unprepared
The true horror.
I think everyone was unprepared for that eldritch abomination.
Weak.
A very good addon for your first video. As always, it was a pleasure to listen to you talking about Bloodborne. The fact you illustrated correctly and simplicity the gothic horror in the first part reveals the rest of the video following a very simple logic, which I think, add so much to your video. 10/10.
Dude, I know it's only been, like, 3 days, but I'm so glad you're back to some extent... I'm going to watch a bunch of your old stuff to hold me over 😄
This video, and all the other on the channel, is pretty great. I hope you can grow in numbers fast, so that more and more people can enjoy your work.
It is so great to see you here again. I was really enjoying your Twitch streams when you were doing FF12.
Always nice to see a video by you
Another fantastic video man! also, welcome back :P
*gasp*
Welcome back.
Thank you! And thank you for your patience!
What a beautiful breakdown. Love this!!
Searched up Bloodborne, saw the letters OTH next to a unusual thumbnail, thought u changed thumbnails on your last Bloodborne video and was puzzled, realized it wasn't and got really excited for a new video. After watching your lasts Bloodborne video a while back I went and watch all of your videos and they've all been extremely....well I'm not sure what word to use to describe that but it's really great, keep up the good work
IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR ANOTHER ONE OF THESE! WOOO!
I know that I have arrived late to the party... But I just saw this video for the first time after watching again after a long long time your video about the mythos and... Awesome. You did an amazing job, I love to see this passion and love for a game that I have close to my heart. To conclude, I wanted to compliment you for your work, I know it is not much but i hope it'll put a smile on your face (:
Was just dreaming of another video from you on this subject two days ago
WOW. This was absolutely brilliant… So inspirational! I will definitely be coming back to this video a bunch of times in the future…
Love your OTH videos, please keep making them
Love the video and music selection!
2:25 I didn't know Ciarán Hinds was in a Jane Eyre adaption. Cool.
Also great video Sole, second I've seen of yours and I think you've more than earned a sub.
Yeah, wow, that pulled together a lot of errant strands of things I noticed in the game into a beautiful reading. Well done!
These videos are incredible. Making me fall in love with bloodborne all over again. Thank you!
Excellent work as always!
It really is amazing how much you can get by reading into this game, even almost four years after it's been out. This truly is From Software's magnum opus.
I see you doing great things. nice job once again
I’m so fucking glad you’ve uploaded, I loved the first part so much. I really want to learn more about gothic horror now, need to pick up a book or two now.
Nice to have you back.
Oh shit I've missed you. I still go back and watch your video on Dark Souls and Bloodborne analysis from time to time because they're so entertaining.
Damn! Thought this channel had been abandoned. What a nice surprise to see signs of life on it finally again :) Guess we're gonna see an another vid some day in 2019 then....
Another great video, and nice taste in music.
Seven. Months. Mother of God.
Also haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m sure it’ll be great. Cause you’re great!
EDIT: Yeah, it was great
Dude, I've been watching your videos over and over again, I've recommended them to teachers and professors.
Still I am sitting in front of this, with my jaws wide open. Thank you for sharing your thoughts
Ay, welcome back man :)
Love your videos, keep the good work.
I got an ad for Acuve contact lenses in the middle of this that started with "SEE ALL"
Excellent work, as always.
I have just discovered your content and it's wonderful
Yay so glad you're back :)
Glad to be back! Sorry for the delay! :D
Hmm... I kinda feel you're overlooking a very important detail in this video: "Weird fiction", Lovecraft's genre, was created as a response to and literary argument opposing the gothic genre: While gothic horror focuses on making things we're already familiar with and/or already understand scary (humans coming back from the dead as animated corpses or ghosts, wild and dangerous animals, blood and gore, etc,) weird horror instead focuses upon instilling fear by confronting us with not only something we're unfamiliar with, but things we _cannot_ understand. Weird horror was founded by people whose response to gothic horror's "the world becomes scarier the more about it we come to understand" was the argument "the world is scary because there are things out there that we will _never_ be able to understand." And Miyazaki, the mad lad, took these two fundamentally opposed and, in fact, incompatible genres and flawlessly merged them together in a way that (unto my knowledge) no-one has been able to do before.
This vid is the last thing I expected tonight, but also exactly what I needed.
you finally did it man, a new bloodborne video!
Heyyyy welcome back :)
Glad to see you back.
I'm glad you're doing another video on bloodborne.
Out-fucking-standing. One of the best videos on gameplay as narrative I've ever seen.
Man, had I known you were planning on making another Bb video I would have told you about the huuuuuge catalogue of video footage I've got on my channel.
Damn... this was an excellent video that really made me rethink my opinion of the video game and myself as a person when i tried to play it.
This is really going to help me with my break into Lovecraftian horror. Thank you.👍🏾
This is terrific, make more videos!
dude, I subbed just because of this video:) appreciate it.
Im learning Gothic Horror in university and it is impressive! Gothic Romance is a counter culture to ideas that humans are center of the world instead of God.
These two bloodborne videos really make me wish you had used it as your example of ludonarrative harmony in your most recent video (I watched that one first, but the connection would have been perfect)
Yet the discovery of furries somehow made the world both more mysterious and more horrific
Nice vid, good to see you in my sub feed again!
The fact that you added the piano version of city ruins from nier automata makes me happy because that game had a really good ost
Welcome back!
Aww shit the Porpoise is alive!
MMMM GIMME THAT GOOD BLOODBORNE STUFF MANG
Great video. Also loved the music choices, haha. Thumbs up for Nier Automata and FF IV, I know those soundtracks anywhere.
oh man that automata cover was out of no where, god i love the ost from that game
"blurs the line between man and beast"
Me who's only half watching "wanna run that by me again chief?"
Dude this is so intelligent. I think you should write a book on bloodborne about these topics in academic spaces like NYU that study narrative development in gaming. You’re a very intelligent person for making this.
Mann you deserve more subs
I am waiting until I finish Bloodborne to watch this vid. So excited.
That Barkerville theme drop at 1:42
Interestingly, 'eyes' in Japanese (in Bloodborne) is often written as '瞳', which refers not to the whole eye but specifically the pupil, and generally the pupil and iris.
Maybe this is to emphasise, as you say, that it's not eyes per se that are important, but what we see is. As the pupil, as we know, is what receives visual information.
If anyone is wondering what the piano is at 6:30 it's from Nier automata. You can find wonderful piano playlists from that game on youtube.
You just got a new subscriber
@ 5:34 NieR Automata memories come flooding back
Great video! Please share the sources for the Final Fantasy 6 cover you have! They’re amazing
👊 *This was AWESOME. Best analysis of **#BloodBourne** on TH-cam.*
OH MY GOD I WAITED THIS FOR SO LONG LOVE THIS CHANNEL SEND HELP
Excuses are for laziness. Reasons are for time management. Thanks for the video!
3:46 okay, you got me there XD
Oh how I love this new turn, you explain the fundamentals so very well from the gothic to the lovecraftian.
And while I would have liked to hear more on what this beast within us mean, I think you give just enough for us to poke and prod at ourselves. Your examples of scientific discovery and basic empiricism in the game were excellent.
Feel proud of yourself!
Porpoise, you coming back brother?, or you on your way to other things? If you are on hiatus, I’d like to say that I enjoyed your videos. Have a good day.
Shout out to TPR's Final Fantasy VI remix music in the background!
Boi, that was very pleasant, thank you
6:33
Wait, they were jars filled with eyes?
I thought they were cakes this whole time.
Sooo very well said. Thank you.
Some of the best video essays on TH-cam!