Just ran the Leadville 100 in the Torrent. No blisters, no problems. Fit is such an individual issue. I have bunions and have very limited shoe options. These were great!
I think you summed this shoe up perfectly. It is my go to trail shoe right now, especially in technical or wet terrain. It just grips onto everything and really inspires confidence on the trails. As someone with a high volume foot, I have not experience the lacing issues you had, they fit snug around the mid foot and heel, while still having room in the toe. Now, I'm just not sure what to do with the extra pairs of challenger 1's I've been hoarding over the past few years.
i bought them and been wearing them for over a month for now.....love them........but yes, they do stretch over time.....but darn, as a big HOKA fan, I have yet to trip/fall with the Torrents......with all the Beast Coast roots, rocks and ridges this shoe is saving me....my body that is.....Thank you HOKA ......spot on review GR!!!!
I haven't experienced the sole of a hoka deteriorate as badly as this model. I had three speedgoats that have lasted about a year each with decent mileage. This model lasted maybe 6 months with lower mileage. I agree with you on all the positive points; but like you, this has been begun to hurt my feet.
Hey Ethan; cheers for a pretty spot-on review. I've now done 200km in the Torrent and I am loving it; it blows the replaced Speed Instinct out of the water which had poor grip and a shocking upper. I think the larger depth lugs contribute to the firmer feeling, as I remember my first run in them not being as cushioned as expected. That said, I've grown to love them and I have thrown them at all the North Wales (UK) mountain terrain and they perform admirably, but can be slightly unstable at times, especially on off-camber or steep grass. As expected, not good on wet rock, but no shoe out there really is, at least not on greasy Welsh rocks! I too have to cinch up the laces pretty snug now, yet what with Hokas reputation of being slightly small, I ordered a 1/2 size up but now realise that wasn't necessary; will order a UK 9 when I get a replacement set. I think Hoka have finally done a great job with this shoe; the rand around the shoe prevents blow-outs and the upper is pretty durable, despite a few scrapes I've given them. As an aside, the ATR 4 I have is also doing great after the abysmal upper of the ATR 3. So, I personally recommend them, especially if you're loyal to the brand :)
@@mattd4549 for me personally, good. My feet are 105mm at widest point but Hoka have been widening slightly recently. I should've stayed with a UK 9 though instead of 9.5 as they need cinching up during the run, like Ethan mentions. I think with the right size, this would be less of a problem. Try them though, I love them 😊 The ATR 3 was good for me but a UK 9.5 was ideal, whereas I've found I can use a 9 with the ATR 4. Upper much stretchier (especially when wet) on ATR 3 than 4, and felt sloppy during long runs. The ATR 4 is much better.
I’ve ran about 100 miles in the torrent and so far I love, I agree completely with the review, except that I haven’t had any of the fit issues. I haven’t had to retighten my laces at all. Love the shoe.
Awesome shoes. Great for short and sharp and long and easy. Could do with a better heel-lock but otherwise these are the low-drop Hokas that we always wanted. Fit no issue overhere so its probably just an individual thing of Ethan
Just recently picked up a pair on sale for £65. Gave them the test today on mixed trails, over muddy fields, up steep technical hills and over grass. Love them already. Needed something a bit more substantial than my Speed Instinct 2s and these do the job.
Love my pair of Torents, took them out of the box and went on a 26 mi training run. No issues whatsoever. These are the shoes I hoped the Sense Ride would be. The more curved last and higher drop if the Salomons don't work for me past 20 mi. Now I'm eyeing the Speedgoat 2's for an upcoming race. Apparently they altered the overlay on the newer colors and removed the cutout where you saw the holes developing.
Love the Torrent. Have put in just over 100kms in it and it holds up really well. The wider toe box is great and it certainly allows for speed. Overall I love the shoe and will get another pair when these ones wear out.
I have about a 100 miles in my pair, the upper has loosened up but I don't really experience a drawback from it unless I'm descending very steep grade. I notice a lot of compression lines in the midsole sides so it does make me wonder about cushioning longevity , but so far it's still pretty great. Good enough shoe that I will use them for the Mogollon Monster 100 Mile in a few weeks.
Ok, I really like this shoe. Used it in the Mogollon Monster 100mile but had to pull out due to kidney issues. I have over 100 miles in the shoe and yes, the shoe does stretch out quite a bit, it can be bothersome on very steep descents but not too bad. That's been the only issue for me, tread is holding, cushion is fine. It's a very good shoe.
Just got this 2 days ago . Did my 10 mile run . Im enjoying it ,this is similar to my salomon sense ride . I got the same feel of bounce and really lite on my trial run , for me its highly recommended .
Agree with you're most excellent review. had Torrent's for month or two. Only complaint is the "loosening" fit of the upper. But still great trail shoe. Just did a mountain marathon Sunday, but I did go with my older Speedgoat 2's, primarily for greater grip. Hoka is steadily taking over my shoe stable.
I have about 200 pretty hard trail miles in my Torrents. I love them - they are comfy, feel snappy and fast, yet my feet felt pretty decent after a 30 mile, 8000 ft gain day in the mountains. They are grippy and have enough torsional rigidity to really do technical trails quickly, and enough cush for the long days. They seem to breathe and dry quickly. BUT I have already ripped one lug off, and several others are loose. I've got a seam on the toe box where the toes flex against the lacing box, and it looks like it might break through any minute. Both of the toe caps have come loose and I've glued them down.... So not so sure about build quality, but gosh they are comfortable. I like to get 400-500 miles out of a shoe, and I'm not sure these will get me there, but I'm happier than I've been with any other shoe recently.
The Voice over is GOLD!!! Have been running in the torrent, and I mainly use them for when I train on grass for the extra grip. It has been a good replacement for the speed instinct and I like using the torrent on the roads is a surprising great tempo shoe. One question I wanted to know, Is the last or frame of the torrent on any other shoe, road mainly, I would love for them to use it in conjunction with clayton/mach cushioning system.
I also just finished the Leadville 100 and the Silver Rush 50 miler in the Torrent and they did incredibly well. Would definitely not recommend it as a 100 mile shoe just because of the limited cushion but overall its my favorite trail shoe. Finally there is enough room in the toe box that my toes aren't rubbing one another. The dual density foam and the lugs seem to grip anything that I have run them through. Definitely would recommend adding a pair or 3 of these to your quiver. Can't wait to shred these things on some trail tomorrow!
Love this shoe! I ran the Volcanic 50k in it and had no problems except for some pain on the bottoms of my feet. I was out there for ten long hours so I’m not going to blame the shoe for that. My feet actually hurt more in the Speedgoat 2 during a previous 50k. The sharp volcanic rocks did cut through some of the mesh in two spots but that stuff is super sharp!
@TheGingerRunner I love my Torrents! Just bought a second pair before they sold out in my size with the Torrent 2 coming out. I hope you'll get a chance to review the Torrent 2 soon, and hopefully not too much will have changed!
I've been eyeing the Torrent up for a while, loved the Speedgoat's but wanted something a little less cushy, I also have liked the looks of the NB Summit Unknown, hoping one of your reviews later this week catches that one :)
Peanutbutter Jelly If you’re a heel striker......DON’T. Striking with your forefoot should help with that issue. There are lots of videos on minimalist running shoes and how it affects the knees.
They are my main trail shoe right now, and my first Hokas. Had to size up one because I got some pinky rub, but despite looking comically large, they have been great up to about 15 miles. I notice the drop off in midsole cushion too. Hopefully mine survive until my 25k in 3 weeks!
I agree with most of this review but I do find the heel to be sloppy enough that I don't trust these shoes on technical trails. Having said that I do think I have a fairly narrow heel, so this may be a problem unique to me.
Hi Ethan. Could you sometimes do something like a "post-review"? Usually you say that a shoe is holding up well after 100 miles or so and that you'll see how it'll hold up in the long run. I think it would be great if you could just post a pinned comment here or update the description with a short info on durability after maybe 300-500 miles. What do you think?
Really good shoe but tackling technical trails at pace I sometimes felt the shoe moved around a bit and foot wasn't locked down as much as I'd like. Totally agree with the lacing issue but I could spend all day in these shoes on trail, a great mix of comfort and responsives
Been waiting forever for you to review this shoe. Can you offer a direct comparison to the Speedgoat 2 (which I find the perfect trail trainer for me).
as with most Hokas and their normal narrowness, would you say these shoes run as normal as all the others? they dont look as narrow from the review. Ive been running in Altras for the past few months and really enjoy the wide toe box. I may be needing to go back to my Hokas due to slight ankle pain and wanted to potentially try these out. Thanks
Thanks for the review...you just make me want to buy the torrent ($119)...I just bought the hoka "one one" evo mafate few months ago...haha (headache) Anyway good review...thumb up.
Good review Ethan unfortunately i must’ve got a bad shoe the lug burst of the sole and it’s coming away 3rd run only 30kms I think a vibram sole would’ve been better hoka will exchange them! But I’m spooked swapping them for the Evo mafate shame really because they felt great straight out the box!
First pair still going strong and love them. Bought second pair around Christmas and decided to run a 12 trail just to break those in now for future use. At about mile I looked down and noticed the rubber membrane protector that wraps all the away around the shoe at base of the fabric and top of the sole had peeled away cleanly on on both sides of the left shoe. Basically it was falling apart at eight miles. WTH? Forget the glue or something?
GRIP! Need to mention the grip. Unmatched from any HOKA before, especially in wet conditions. There's a dual compound outsole with a very sticky rubber
On shoes where I struggle to get the lacing right I have started putting on the stretchy laces it really helps because they feel like they auto adjust throughout the run, I'd recommend anyone at least try them
Got my first 10 mile run in the Torrents today. I love the fit and trail feel but I have about two dozen compression lines in the foam after one run. Seems abnormal.
How were they holding up in terms of durability? How many miles did you made with them? Also, did the fit got worse and it's recommended to buy a size below? Thanks
Durability is really good, just the cushion starts to pack out (like most EVA shoes). I ran in the rain once and the upper then stopped stretching. I think most people are going 1/2 a size down, I stayed true to size and yeah they feel a bit big. Definite buy especially if you find them cheap, otherwise Kiger 5's are similar shoes, but with more durable cushion.
I had terrible fit problems with this shoe. For me, it runs about a half to a full size too large. I have a narrow foot - I cannot wear Altras, for example - but not so narrow that shoes like the Speedgoat don't feel small. I really cannot get the midfoot to work for me. I have to lock it down so much it hurts the top of my foot. Consequently, I'm fighting the shoe, and that means it is really unstable on technical downhills. *If* I wear my thickest Drymax socks, this is a 20 mile shoe for me on not very technical stuff. Bummer. The Speed Instinct, which these are supposed to replace, would have been a great shoe had it not been for the durability problems and tread. It seems like Hoka can never get it more than two thirds of the way right.
But ! Its not all....... butterflies and licorice ropes......rainbows and gummi bears......sunshine and bubble gum. Even if I'm not into the shoes being reviewed, I always enjoy viewing just for those comments. How about reviewing the New Balance K.O.M. (King of the Mountain) ? I think Hoka one one should just shorten up the name to Hoka.
The heel cup is not bad at all. I love a athletic heel cup in my running shoes and my pair doesn't make me feel like my heel is slipping out. I only put on 15 miles total so far for the 2 days I've had them, but felt great for some pretty technical trails. Hope that helps.
Chris Howie I put around 300 miles on my superiors. They weren’t feeling right. Turns out my metatarsal was striking right where the sup’s have little padding. Switched them out for the lone peak 4’s ive put around 60 on them. Lone peaks have a wider box and my heel comes up. They arent a fast shoe for me. Ive stumbled multiple times and ate shit in a trail race wearing the LP4’s. A sponsored altra runner friend of mine suggested I try the female version of the LP4’s. Ended up getting the hoka torrents. Put 10 trail miles on them today near Tahoe. I have found my new race shoe. They stick to my feet and inspire confidence. Extremely fast shoe. Wider than most brands but nothing will be as wide as Altra. Fully submerged one foot in water half way and it felt dry by the end of the run. Fully submerged torrent did losen up a bit after getting wet but i never stopped to adjust. Altra is the widest shoe brand I have worn. I think they are actually a bit too wide for me in the toe box and heel, but I am a super skinny dude. 6ft 150lbs hope this helps you out my dude.
I'm hoping Ethan is just trolling us with the voice overs because if he's being politically correct, that would not be cool. He totally mispronounced the name of the Hierro which is a Y sound at the beginning of the name and didn't do any voice over. Please don't go PC on us dude.
Perdomot um what? I pronounced hierro exactly like my NB rep pronounces it without hard Spanish pronunciation, silent “H” and rolled “r”s. And with this, it’s obviously a joke on the fact Hoka changed pronunciation multiple times over the last 5 years. Did you not watch to the end of the review? 7:20 for reference. Curious how either of these situations is being “politically correct”? I’m just doing the same thing I’ve been doing for the last 7 years and am beholden to no one.
Glad you were just joking around dude. Seems like there are lots of folks trying to be a little too culturally sensitive these days and I got the wrong impression. Apologies on that. As for the Hierro, your NB rep is wrong as I am latino and we pronounce it Yierro, no H sound at all. Looking forward to the next review.
Perdomot thats exactly how my Spanish language training would have me pronounce it, but I sided with the brand’s choice in that video seeing as it’s their shoe, their name, yadda yadda. Also, they may market it differently in different regions. As for the “One One”, same story. Same with “Bondi”. Same with “Mafate”. Regardless, in no way am I trying to be politically correct in either video.
Just ran the Leadville 100 in the Torrent. No blisters, no problems. Fit is such an individual issue. I have bunions and have very limited shoe options. These were great!
I ran Leadville in the Torrents as well. Awesome shoe!
I have bunions too did you size up? I usually find hoka to narrow
Voice over to cover all your bases...I see what you did there...
I think you summed this shoe up perfectly. It is my go to trail shoe right now, especially in technical or wet terrain. It just grips onto everything and really inspires confidence on the trails. As someone with a high volume foot, I have not experience the lacing issues you had, they fit snug around the mid foot and heel, while still having room in the toe.
Now, I'm just not sure what to do with the extra pairs of challenger 1's I've been hoarding over the past few years.
Haven't laughed so much on a Hoka review since some of your first Hoka reviews.
i bought them and been wearing them for over a month for now.....love them........but yes, they do stretch over time.....but darn, as a big HOKA fan, I have yet to trip/fall with the Torrents......with all the Beast Coast roots, rocks and ridges this shoe is saving me....my body that is.....Thank you HOKA ......spot on review GR!!!!
2 reviews in a day... 3 more to come... thank you Ethan!
Fingers crossed for that NB Beacon review 🤞
I haven't experienced the sole of a hoka deteriorate as badly as this model. I had three speedgoats that have lasted about a year each with decent mileage. This model lasted maybe 6 months with lower mileage. I agree with you on all the positive points; but like you, this has been begun to hurt my feet.
Hey Ethan; cheers for a pretty spot-on review. I've now done 200km in the Torrent and I am loving it; it blows the replaced Speed Instinct out of the water which had poor grip and a shocking upper. I think the larger depth lugs contribute to the firmer feeling, as I remember my first run in them not being as cushioned as expected. That said, I've grown to love them and I have thrown them at all the North Wales (UK) mountain terrain and they perform admirably, but can be slightly unstable at times, especially on off-camber or steep grass. As expected, not good on wet rock, but no shoe out there really is, at least not on greasy Welsh rocks!
I too have to cinch up the laces pretty snug now, yet what with Hokas reputation of being slightly small, I ordered a 1/2 size up but now realise that wasn't necessary; will order a UK 9 when I get a replacement set.
I think Hoka have finally done a great job with this shoe; the rand around the shoe prevents blow-outs and the upper is pretty durable, despite a few scrapes I've given them. As an aside, the ATR 4 I have is also doing great after the abysmal upper of the ATR 3.
So, I personally recommend them, especially if you're loyal to the brand :)
@@mattd4549 for me personally, good. My feet are 105mm at widest point but Hoka have been widening slightly recently. I should've stayed with a UK 9 though instead of 9.5 as they need cinching up during the run, like Ethan mentions. I think with the right size, this would be less of a problem. Try them though, I love them 😊 The ATR 3 was good for me but a UK 9.5 was ideal, whereas I've found I can use a 9 with the ATR 4. Upper much stretchier (especially when wet) on ATR 3 than 4, and felt sloppy during long runs. The ATR 4 is much better.
Great inputs. Thank you. Do you find the Torrent toe box wider than the Speed Instinct?
@@farahavasarala yes I would say so.
@@EHughes0658 thanks so much. Appreciate it.
Hi there, I'm an 8.5 in the Clifton 5's which is about a perfect fit, would you recommend an 8 if I'm ordering online? Thanks
Whoa....the voice over is freaking me out a little but great review!
I'm guessing Ethan called it one one and had to edit in OhNay OhNay :)
Lol it is very weird indeed, like watching a terribly dubbed martial arts movie! 🤣🤣🤣
They changed it at few times, so I think it's made not as seamless on purpose. I found it fun :-)
See 7:21 :)
@@TheGingerRunner LOL definitely didn't watch that far on the first viewing
OMG the last "one one" at 6:24 was hilarious!!
I’ve ran about 100 miles in the torrent and so far I love, I agree completely with the review, except that I haven’t had any of the fit issues. I haven’t had to retighten my laces at all. Love the shoe.
I went for a half size down and it fits very well. All what I miss is a rock plate in the forefoot.
Just picked up a pair from Running Warehouse this morning. Excited to try them out! Thanks for the helpful review, Ethan!
Awesome shoes. Great for short and sharp and long and easy. Could do with a better heel-lock but otherwise these are the low-drop Hokas that we always wanted. Fit no issue overhere so its probably just an individual thing of Ethan
Just recently picked up a pair on sale for £65. Gave them the test today on mixed trails, over muddy fields, up steep technical hills and over grass. Love them already. Needed something a bit more substantial than my Speed Instinct 2s and these do the job.
Does yours have a UK or US measurement on the label, I'm a UK 11 so assuming I should get a US 12.
I got mine last week.....and...... I love them! They fit my big feet perfect 👍🏻
Love my pair of Torents, took them out of the box and went on a 26 mi training run. No issues whatsoever. These are the shoes I hoped the Sense Ride would be. The more curved last and higher drop if the Salomons don't work for me past 20 mi. Now I'm eyeing the Speedgoat 2's for an upcoming race. Apparently they altered the overlay on the newer colors and removed the cutout where you saw the holes developing.
Love the Torrent. Have put in just over 100kms in it and it holds up really well.
The wider toe box is great and it certainly allows for speed.
Overall I love the shoe and will get another pair when these ones wear out.
James Hewett same here!
I have about a 100 miles in my pair, the upper has loosened up but I don't really experience a drawback from it unless I'm descending very steep grade. I notice a lot of compression lines in the midsole sides so it does make me wonder about cushioning longevity , but so far it's still pretty great. Good enough shoe that I will use them for the Mogollon Monster 100 Mile in a few weeks.
michael everest would love to see an update to this comment after your 100miler!
Ok, I really like this shoe. Used it in the Mogollon Monster 100mile but had to pull out due to kidney issues. I have over 100 miles in the shoe and yes, the shoe does stretch out quite a bit, it can be bothersome on very steep descents but not too bad. That's been the only issue for me, tread is holding, cushion is fine. It's a very good shoe.
Just got this 2 days ago . Did my 10 mile run . Im enjoying it ,this is similar to my salomon sense ride . I got the same feel of bounce and really lite on my trial run , for me its highly recommended .
Agree with you're most excellent review. had Torrent's for month or two. Only complaint is the "loosening" fit of the upper. But still great trail shoe. Just did a mountain marathon Sunday, but I did go with my older Speedgoat 2's, primarily for greater grip. Hoka is steadily taking over my shoe stable.
I have about 200 pretty hard trail miles in my Torrents. I love them - they are comfy, feel snappy and fast, yet my feet felt pretty decent after a 30 mile, 8000 ft gain day in the mountains. They are grippy and have enough torsional rigidity to really do technical trails quickly, and enough cush for the long days. They seem to breathe and dry quickly. BUT I have already ripped one lug off, and several others are loose. I've got a seam on the toe box where the toes flex against the lacing box, and it looks like it might break through any minute. Both of the toe caps have come loose and I've glued them down.... So not so sure about build quality, but gosh they are comfortable. I like to get 400-500 miles out of a shoe, and I'm not sure these will get me there, but I'm happier than I've been with any other shoe recently.
The Voice over is GOLD!!! Have been running in the torrent, and I mainly use them for when I train on grass for the extra grip. It has been a good replacement for the speed instinct and I like using the torrent on the roads is a surprising great tempo shoe. One question I wanted to know, Is the last or frame of the torrent on any other shoe, road mainly, I would love for them to use it in conjunction with clayton/mach cushioning system.
I also just finished the Leadville 100 and the Silver Rush 50 miler in the Torrent and they did incredibly well. Would definitely not recommend it as a 100 mile shoe just because of the limited cushion but overall its my favorite trail shoe. Finally there is enough room in the toe box that my toes aren't rubbing one another. The dual density foam and the lugs seem to grip anything that I have run them through. Definitely would recommend adding a pair or 3 of these to your quiver. Can't wait to shred these things on some trail tomorrow!
Love this shoe! I ran the Volcanic 50k in it and had no problems except for some pain on the bottoms of my feet. I was out there for ten long hours so I’m not going to blame the shoe for that. My feet actually hurt more in the Speedgoat 2 during a previous 50k. The sharp volcanic rocks did cut through some of the mesh in two spots but that stuff is super sharp!
Been waiting on this one a while now, bought the shoe already though! I love the shoe and your work! Keep it up!
Also, I like your voice over one one!
Honey Badgers, lots of rhyming and that ending....hilarious!!
@TheGingerRunner I love my Torrents! Just bought a second pair before they sold out in my size with the Torrent 2 coming out. I hope you'll get a chance to review the Torrent 2 soon, and hopefully not too much will have changed!
Great review, and also looking forward to seeing you review the Mach.
Nice review. I recently bought this shoe and it is great!
I have been waiting for this....thanks!
Just got a pair of these. I'll see how these do. Very excited!
So glad I bought a pair of these! I had a great time on the trail with these .
Awesome! This is my go-to shoe and you nailed it.
I've been eyeing the Torrent up for a while, loved the Speedgoat's but wanted something a little less cushy, I also have liked the looks of the NB Summit Unknown, hoping one of your reviews later this week catches that one :)
you're great at reviewing! very honest and detailed! can you do a review on best shoe for runners with knee pain?
Peanutbutter Jelly If you’re a heel striker......DON’T. Striking with your forefoot should help with that issue. There are lots of videos on minimalist running shoes and how it affects the knees.
They are my main trail shoe right now, and my first Hokas. Had to size up one because I got some pinky rub, but despite looking comically large, they have been great up to about 15 miles. I notice the drop off in midsole cushion too. Hopefully mine survive until my 25k in 3 weeks!
"Freedom to shred without the doubt..." Sick prose, dude...
Excellent review as always! Can you please review the lone peak 4.0?
I agree with most of this review but I do find the heel to be sloppy enough that I don't trust these shoes on technical trails. Having said that I do think I have a fairly narrow heel, so this may be a problem unique to me.
Hi Ethan. Could you sometimes do something like a "post-review"? Usually you say that a shoe is holding up well after 100 miles or so and that you'll see how it'll hold up in the long run. I think it would be great if you could just post a pinned comment here or update the description with a short info on durability after maybe 300-500 miles. What do you think?
I love my Torrents! Bang on comparison with the Solomon Sense Ride... That is my current rotation.
Really good shoe but tackling technical trails at pace I sometimes felt the shoe moved around a bit and foot wasn't locked down as much as I'd like. Totally agree with the lacing issue but I could spend all day in these shoes on trail, a great mix of comfort and responsives
Sounds like I need to give these a try!
Been waiting forever for you to review this shoe. Can you offer a direct comparison to the Speedgoat 2 (which I find the perfect trail trainer for me).
as with most Hokas and their normal narrowness, would you say these shoes run as normal as all the others? they dont look as narrow from the review. Ive been running in Altras for the past few months and really enjoy the wide toe box. I may be needing to go back to my Hokas due to slight ankle pain and wanted to potentially try these out. Thanks
Thanks for the review...you just make me want to buy the torrent ($119)...I just bought the hoka "one one" evo mafate few months ago...haha (headache)
Anyway good review...thumb up.
Good review Ethan unfortunately i must’ve got a bad shoe the lug burst of the sole and it’s coming away 3rd run only 30kms I think a vibram sole would’ve been better hoka will exchange them! But I’m spooked swapping them for the Evo mafate shame really because they felt great straight out the box!
First pair still going strong and love them. Bought second pair around Christmas and decided to run a 12 trail just to break those in now for future use. At about mile I looked down and noticed the rubber membrane protector that wraps all the away around the shoe at base of the fabric and top of the sole had peeled away cleanly on on both sides of the left shoe. Basically it was falling apart at eight miles. WTH? Forget the glue or something?
Better fit for me than the Speedgoat 2. Wider toebox and gusseted tongue. Wish the laces weren't short.
Please say one one a couple more times hahah! Great review as always
Bought them. Just now. They feel good. Welded overlays gone after 15k .wtf? But the welded overlays seem to contribute to nothing actually
05:43 had me dead on the floor! and then again at 06:15 AND THEN AGAIN @ 06:25 Good grief that was a good laugh!
Sounds like a solid 16/20
Just over 100 miles and the upper is fraying in several places otherwise I agree with your review
GRIP! Need to mention the grip. Unmatched from any HOKA before, especially in wet conditions. There's a dual compound outsole with a very sticky rubber
Great review, thanks!
Should I order same size as speedgoat 2? I wear a size 8 in Hupana and size 9 in speedgoat.
On shoes where I struggle to get the lacing right I have started putting on the stretchy laces it really helps because they feel like they auto adjust throughout the run, I'd recommend anyone at least try them
Hey Ethan, you should review the air Jordan flight runner 2
I loved it, and I’d like to see what you think.
Tom The Friendly Human oof I really hope he review a pair of J’s
Adam Garza and it nice cause they are actually meant for running
Those...Are....ummmmm
I doubt those will hit my feet, sorry!
TheGingerRunner hey man, thanks a lot for replying, didn’t expect you to see this
Got my first 10 mile run in the Torrents today. I love the fit and trail feel but I have about two dozen compression lines in the foam after one run. Seems abnormal.
I'd really like to hear your take on the Merrell Bare Access.
Torrent vs Speedgoat 2 vs Evo Mafate?
Hey Ethan, will you review the Lone Peak 4? I have a few miles on them which were good but would love to hear your thoughts.
Second that!
Wonder if you could toss in some after market insoles at mile 100 to overcome the compression / expansion you mention?
I thought they were definitely big and clunky. Thats why I returned them.
I ordered a pair of these....how would these rate for a 25k race? Mind you I'm coming back from a 3 year hiatus and time on feet will me way longer.
How were they holding up in terms of durability? How many miles did you made with them?
Also, did the fit got worse and it's recommended to buy a size below?
Thanks
Durability is really good, just the cushion starts to pack out (like most EVA shoes). I ran in the rain once and the upper then stopped stretching. I think most people are going 1/2 a size down, I stayed true to size and yeah they feel a bit big. Definite buy especially if you find them cheap, otherwise Kiger 5's are similar shoes, but with more durable cushion.
@@RowOfMushyTiT thanks
I never ran on Hoka! Should i go with Torrent or Speedgoat 3
Should I snag this or the Speedgoat for Marathon Trail Race?
I laughed so hard.... one one!
"One One"
Torrent or Speedgoat 2?? Help
Do you think the Evo Speedgoat is better than this? This is 50 bucks cheaper
One One
For ultra trails 100K or +, what kind of shoes is better for you, Torrent or Evo Mafate?
speedgoat I think
I had terrible fit problems with this shoe. For me, it runs about a half to a full size too large. I have a narrow foot - I cannot wear Altras, for example - but not so narrow that shoes like the Speedgoat don't feel small. I really cannot get the midfoot to work for me. I have to lock it down so much it hurts the top of my foot. Consequently, I'm fighting the shoe, and that means it is really unstable on technical downhills. *If* I wear my thickest Drymax socks, this is a 20 mile shoe for me on not very technical stuff. Bummer. The Speed Instinct, which these are supposed to replace, would have been a great shoe had it not been for the durability problems and tread. It seems like Hoka can never get it more than two thirds of the way right.
But ! Its not all....... butterflies and licorice ropes......rainbows and gummi bears......sunshine and bubble gum. Even if I'm not into the shoes being reviewed, I always enjoy viewing just for those comments. How about reviewing the New Balance K.O.M. (King of the Mountain) ? I think Hoka one one should just shorten up the name to Hoka.
forgot to talk about the heel cup. noone ever talks about the heel cup of trail shoes. how come it gets neglected so much?
The heel cup is not bad at all. I love a athletic heel cup in my running shoes and my pair doesn't make me feel like my heel is slipping out. I only put on 15 miles total so far for the 2 days I've had them, but felt great for some pretty technical trails. Hope that helps.
Question how does this compare to something like the Altra Superior? Does the toe box have a wider fit or narrow like most Hokas these days?
Chris Howie I put around 300 miles on my superiors. They weren’t feeling right. Turns out my metatarsal was striking right where the sup’s have little padding. Switched them out for the lone peak 4’s ive put around 60 on them. Lone peaks have a wider box and my heel comes up. They arent a fast shoe for me. Ive stumbled multiple times and ate shit in a trail race wearing the LP4’s. A sponsored altra runner friend of mine suggested I try the female version of the LP4’s. Ended up getting the hoka torrents. Put 10 trail miles on them today near Tahoe.
I have found my new race shoe. They stick to my feet and inspire confidence. Extremely fast shoe. Wider than most brands but nothing will be as wide as Altra. Fully submerged one foot in water half way and it felt dry by the end of the run. Fully submerged torrent did losen up a bit after getting wet but i never stopped to adjust.
Altra is the widest shoe brand I have worn. I think they are actually a bit too wide for me in the toe box and heel, but I am a super skinny dude. 6ft 150lbs hope this helps you out my dude.
nick m yeah that really helps me out! I just want to lock down my heel and not have a super cramped toe box up front.
Have you ever used the Saucony switch back?
How about the Brooks Glycerin 15
Charles Meadows no plans at this time
So basically just go a size down and everything will be fine
2 just came out is this one still worth it?
The fit on this is perfect for me. Can anyone recommend a road shoe that is similar in fit and feel?
Try the Clifton 5 Wide
Altra Torin 3.5
one one!
Why was the speed instinct discontinued?
Can you review Xero TerraFlex??? Thanks
"one one"
lol. but they should've expected that for not being consistent with the branding
Did these replace the Speed Instincts?
this or the salomon sense ride?
That one one tho
can i download it??
Can someone compare it with the hoka evo jawz?
Where are the points??
TRUE ADR CHEF
Onay-onay
Not the Hoka I was waiting for.
ONAY ONAY
Lots of reviews, cool, I need to unsubscribe more often. ;)
I'm hoping Ethan is just trolling us with the voice overs because if he's being politically correct, that would not be cool. He totally mispronounced the name of the Hierro which is a Y sound at the beginning of the name and didn't do any voice over. Please don't go PC on us dude.
Perdomot um what? I pronounced hierro exactly like my NB rep pronounces it without hard Spanish pronunciation, silent “H” and rolled “r”s. And with this, it’s obviously a joke on the fact Hoka changed pronunciation multiple times over the last 5 years. Did you not watch to the end of the review? 7:20 for reference. Curious how either of these situations is being “politically correct”? I’m just doing the same thing I’ve been doing for the last 7 years and am beholden to no one.
Glad you were just joking around dude. Seems like there are lots of folks trying to be a little too culturally sensitive these days and I got the wrong impression. Apologies on that. As for the Hierro, your NB rep is wrong as I am latino and we pronounce it Yierro, no H sound at all. Looking forward to the next review.
Perdomot thats exactly how my Spanish language training would have me pronounce it, but I sided with the brand’s choice in that video seeing as it’s their shoe, their name, yadda yadda. Also, they may market it differently in different regions. As for the “One One”, same story. Same with “Bondi”. Same with “Mafate”. Regardless, in no way am I trying to be politically correct in either video.