Table Tennis Short Pips Penholder (New Successor of Liu Guoliang)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2017
- The new ball has opened a good opportunity to the short pimple playing style in table tennis. Let's feel this game between Fan Zhendong and Yan Sheng (Successor of Liu Guoliang's Forehand Short pips attacking style).
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Love the short-pips game. I'm glad some of the Chinese are letting young people still develop their talents whichever way they go.
Too bad Yan Sheng was not in Budapest to train with Ma Long before the final game with Falck. So Lin Guoliang by himself had to step in to train with Ma Long. But it was succesful :)
Can you make a new video regarding short pimps with shakehands please?
That would be so awesome and thanks for the videos, keep up the good work Mr Coach!
I would like to see with shakehand forehand
Stanley Choi watch mattias karlson, hes a shakehander with sp forehand iirc
Watch Jonny Huang
Hello there. Thanks for posting the video. What are the short pip rubbers Yan is using on his FH and BH? Thanks in advance
see fan forced yan to moved away from the table.....a death sentence to short pip player
yes, each time Y.Sen is forced to move and rally on the FH side, he lost the point.
This is the danger of using more rpb in a game: it sets up strong topspin exchanges between both players slightly back from the table. Pips jab-blocks then become useless, and the pips on the forehand side have to deal with a _dropping_ , heavily topspun ball.
+EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach how old is he
Yeah you def want to stay close to the table as a SP player. But you do have options. If you feel comfortable, you can chop with them. Many modern defenders now a days seem to favor SP over LPs in chopping to vary spin. You'll also notice a lot of times when penholders like this get pushed off the table they'll twiddle and hit those forehands with the inverted to get them back in the point. But yeah you definitely don't want to get off the table too often.
That picture u used for the thumbnail is my racket lol
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lol. I just search on google for a picture. :) Thank you for your nice photo.
Matthew chan hhftu
plz tell me what yan sheng equipments ? Thank u so much
boithuong nguyen They have their own special equipment
Anyone gave me suggestion for difender rubber(short/long pipe)on FHS and BHS??or normal on FHS
Use the Donic Defplay Senso (blade). Try the Qing rubber by Yinhe as your long pips BH rubber. And put a Tenergy 05 or Evolution MX-P on the FH because you'll need the ability to attack and to serve with your FH.
Liu Guoliang can't have a succesor... He used to be or maybe is still a beast penholder.
curious what short pips Yang Sheng is using
kartek88 vhhfffg
take a look at Sun Chen also
and Wang Z.Y.
Can anyone recommend a good short pip rubber with good deception?
Victas 101
严升正胶打的太漂亮了
弱点太明显 易被男队员打穿 （业余可以玩 专业不行）
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ペン表と言ったら速攻型を連想しますが最近ではペン粒＋表使いいますよ
特に中国に何人かいます
周シントンとか
does anyone know what pips is he using ?
RITC 802
What are the advantages to short pips?
It's faster but produces less spin
Spyro is right. To add on that, they also react to in coming less. It's hard to explain. I've played short pips for years now also having played inverted. To me they simply feel more controlled and easier to place the ball exactly where you want to. I suppose it depends on the player. I've seen several players who have relatively flat swings and hit more speed rather than spin. For those people, short pips could be an option.
why not kill the light under the table , it obstructs watching.
Whats rubber used mr Liu Guoliang ? tell me please
According to his Wikipedia page, "His blade is Stiga Clipper, his forehand rubber is Stiga Clippa and his reverse backhand rubber is Stiga Mendo Energy."
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Guoliang
Disclaimer: There was no official source in the Wikipedia page either.
he used tsp spin pips with avalox p700 then he moved to the clipper cr , then tsp spinpips were banned and the ball changed size he started using 802-40 pips but acording to experience of people that played with old tsp spinpips were far moore superior to 802-40.hes backhand rubber it maybe a stiga one back in the late 90s there were good alternatives to sriver and mark v
@@kenshiro11 his rpb rubber was Stiga Mendo probably with custom sponge. And yes, old Spinpips were giving players using them a lot of advantage over the rest, since they could in many ways play just like inverted (Guoliang's mid paced loops, for instance, had monstrous amounts of spin, something never seen before among pips) but their speed and spin insensivity, and especially a deceptive effect on some blocks and pushes, were making them superior.
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his playing style differs from Liu as he uses much more rpb than liu
yes, you are right. The modern RPB in table tennis.
Ethan Gaming Production also, he doesn't use the traditional backhand like Liu does
Andy Zhao no,he still uses the tpb in some circumstance
sorry, my mistake
How old is Yan Sheng?
same as Fan,20
kindly dont joke. not going to be even a possibility. just a ping pong player only that play short pips which china was required to made obsolete and learn shake hands from europeans.
ITTF should raise the ban of spinpips already, it was politically motivated and disgusting. If they really care about unpredictability of LP's spin reversal just make a regulation to limit the length of the pips, but they just want the old age of Waldner and Persson while the whole TT world has move on. Plastic ball has shown to have less spin (expected) and actually bounce HIGHER so defensive players are nerved even more. They clearly pushed it only so slower attacking swing has a chance, but in the end pro player just get more athletic and make the game to be more one dimensional AND more expensive: everyone now faster sponge to compensate since the bounce is higher you kind of not need to compensate for spin compared to speed.
I think they should just create tables from a different material. Something less less reactive to spin with a slightly lower bounce so it gets compensated
They did limit the length (or rather the length to width ratio)
The anti-Chinese sentiment of ITTF is terrible.The Chinese really hold Table Tennis dear in their hearts dedicating huge resources to the development of the game while in the Western world it's considered basically a basement sport for the nerds.The ITTF is such an incompetent amateurish organisation!
@@dickn.ormous1064 totally agree
greetings from portugal, love your videos. very good player!! nice backhand , love is style! is blade looks like clipper cr, can some one tell me what rubbers he uses. is there some chinese shakehand player apart from zhan jian that uses short pips on the forehand? teng yi from the 80s and begining of 90s was a very good player!
He Zhi Wen
which side are the pips on? don't understand how he can lift backspin so easily...
bronzong91 what's so hard about it? Have you ever used shortpips?
Forehand short pips. Short pips can spin the ball easily.
EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach or better, it can cancel some of the balls spin turning it to slightly less spin than balls. Some pros can even reverse the spin from what I heard
Yeah I was asking the same thing. Look at his FH at 4:10. Huge spin.
There are pips on the black side
He needs work on his forehand