Thanks for this Brian. My son has a friend who's family is not well off and I have a LOT of PC parts in my basement. I was going to build him a Scrapyard Wars 775 system using a Q6600. But then I came across this video of yours and I was inspired. So there is a 5460 and a 771-775 mod strip on its way to me now. Thanks for this and all your used PC vids.
Hi friend how does 5460 compare the the q6600 I have the q6600 oc to 2.8ghz i was thinking of getting a 5460 but didnt want to spend and get the same performance Does the 5460 overclock at all
Hi. I'm in UK and I bought Dell Optiplex 380 off eBay for £20, I put in E5450 (£12), 8GB RAM (£25), used 256GB SSD (obviously optional and that cost me £55), GTX 750 2GB (non Ti card, those are very cheap on eBay now and I paid for mine £48), it all works off 255W PSU, but it is 80+ Gold rated PSU made by Delta, so it can handle the components with no problems. So for less than £200 I play games in 1080p like Fallout 4, Dying Light, Watch dogs, Sims 4 and even Witcher 3. Obviously not on high or ultra, but for the money you spend it is a very decent machine.
Just did this on my daughters motherboard. WOW just WOW. She had an q6600 that i switched into an E5450. CSGO fps was 50-60 fps with a shitty gpu went to 110-120 with the e5450. Thanks for doing this guide it gave me the currage to try this.
First video I saw of yours. I was thinking of upgrading my PC and this saved me a fortune. Went from a Quad Q8200 to a X5460. Managed to clock up to 4Ghz. My cinebench is nearly double the score! Thanks again dude. Love your channel
Dammit Bryan! Now this is gonna spread around the internet until Intel's retroactively forcing motherboard manufacturers to disable this feature via a BIOS update for who knows how old hardware.
I just did Xeon X5450 on Asus P5QL and everything works like charm. Before MOD CPU motherboard wanted a BIOS update and Win 7 and 10 wouldn't boot. Thanks, mate.
I am using about a year now a Xeon E5450 on an Asrock G41C-GS having done this mod. Works like a charm. I bought the 3GHz Xeon for 40 Euros instead of the 110 Euros the Core 2 Quad 9650 would cost me.
Such a great idea. I did it last week and doing it again next week. $18-$20 for an E5450 on ebay and $1.50 for the sticker. It's 80 watts and a good deal faster than the 105 watt Q6600. It's also cheaper than the top 775 Quad the 95 watt Q9650. Nice tip with cutting the taps with the CPU in there. I also used a brand new blade on my utility knife.
I have an E5440 in an 8 year old old Dell Optiplex 330 that I modded about a year and a half ago. It's got the same horsepower as my Haswell i5 laptop at work.
TheD3monDev I have a z77 platform and a Mac Pro. I had an older P45 board for a while and it was amazing for the time. I wish I haven’t spent so much on a high end Core 2 Quad and had known that a Xeon Quad Core would have worked. (:
Using an old 775 cpu as a "template" to protect the pins while cutting out the plastic notches is a great idea. I wish I had thought of that. I was very nervous and shakey while cutting the notches out. Kudos.
macgyver of computers..Wish there was a mod for the 1156 socket. I went to a store yesterday looking for a cheap cpu and the guy there gave me a i3-550 but they didnt have a mobo for it..Mobo's with the 1156 socket are so freaking expensive. Was hoping to throw some old parts together for a quick sell to fund a new part for myself but idk if it's worth the investment for a mobo at this point. Not to mention i'd still need some ram.
I have 3 771 Xeonsystem at home, basically I have tested every L, X and E variant and I can say that the E5450 (E0) is the best choice here, since it has the lowest thermal output. Great overclocker @ 9x400 = 3,6GHz.
Ayy I picked up two X5460s. When I first googled that CPU I was immediately greeted with a post about using LGA771 CPUs on LGA775 with a simple mod, so obviously this was going to have to happen. I then searched "LGA771 on LGA775" or similar and saw Mr Tech YES greeting me. Of course you would have a video on the matter :D Thanks man!
if anyone needs a cheap motherboard to do this on, pick up this old dell motherboard from ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspiron-530-530s-Vostro-200s-200-MainBoard-Motherboard-FM586-G33M03-GN723-/151902517936?hash=item235e187ab0:g:1FgAAOSwnLdWqjhH This board is really a foxconn G33m03 motherboard that has been rebadged as a dell motherboard. It is a standard mATX motherboard that can use standard LGA 775 CPU coolers so no proprietary dell bullshit here. I have personally tested this board to work with the intel Xeon E5450 without microcode updates or bios mods needed. :)
+Dylan 873 Can't really recommend a dell vostro mb. Got a vostro 220 mb laying arround here, tried the mod on it with a xeon x5450. Didn't turn out so well, pc booted but was super slow, even after bios modding it. Swapped it with a GA-G31M-ES2L and everythings fine now.
Really? Because I got this board to work totally fine with a xeon e5450 and the darn board worked flawlewssly. The reason I bought it is because I found the thing on ebay for $20 whereas that gigabyte board was going for well over 50 on ebay for a buy it now auction. I did a build log of it over on the LinusTechTips forum: linustechtips.com/main/topic/573319-the-200-csgo-and-minecraft-machine/?do=findComment&comment=7510161
Well I don't know about the other dell vostro motherboards. It probably runs better on your dell vostro 400 mb then. Could however also be the CPU, I was using a x5450 while you're running it with an e5440.
I stumbled over this when looking up CPU upgrade matches for a motherboard I was given... strangely, one Xeon was listed, and I'm like... okay? I searched around, found that odd pin-strip adapter first, "what's this for?", then enter this rabbit hole. Now I've got 2 Xeons and 3 adapter strips on their way to me. I had no idea Xeons were that close matches... and these things are more powerful than you can buy new today. 10 year old hardware now... still more powerful than bargain-bin crap that costs more.
X5460 has a CPU passmark rating of 4490. The E8400 that he started with had a passmark rating of 2179. So, he did double his performance. Not to mention the X5460 has 12MB of cache!!
I did my first ever 775 to 771 mod today on a Gigabyte EG45M DS2H. I was very nervous but did a lot of research on it beforehand. I carefully cut the plastic notches off the socket and inserted a Xeon X3363 ($15 pre modded on ebay). It didn't boot first time but after re-seating the CPU and clearing cmos of the latest F4 unmodified bios it booted up. CPU was recognized correctly so I set the time and date in bios, set SATA to AHCI, checked temperatures were alright and booted into windows 7 (64 bit). I successfully performed my first 775 to 771 $15 quad core upgrade. Woohoo!
This is some of your best content yet ... the stuff noone talks about and helps the budget oriented! I have been wanting to do a channel like this myself :( looks like you beat me to it!
Just did this mod on my Plex server. Replaced the E6500 dual core with with a Xeon x5460 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 mobo. Cost $30. Made sure I updated to the latest the bios. It posted straight away. I had to remove the ram and put it back in to get windows to start. Didn't need me to add any microcode. Now it doesn't stutter when streaming HD content to my chromecast. Sweet.
I got two Xeon E5450s, which are essentially 80-Watt versions of the Q9650. The difference is that I didn't cut away the tabs from the motherboards, I modified the CPU package with a small Dremel tool so that it would fit into any LGA775 socket without the socket being modified. Both CPU chips work and I successfully inserted the microcode into the BIOSs. One of those Xeons runs my home server, which runs a basic web server (for hosting driver packages and software installs for my older Win9x retro gaming systems that can't surf modern websites with their older browsers) and a PLEX media server. It's powerful enough to transcode two 1080p videos on the fly, so that's nice. I just wish the MB had more than 2 DDR2 slots so I could have installed 8GB instead of being limited to 4GB on a server.
Hey Thanks SOOO much for the $327 PC build getting the same pc but different mobo and gpu and MAYB the cpu to a i7 930 but my gpu is gna be a GTX 950 will that do 60fps high on bf4 whilst recording gameplay through DXtory (but my save clips bit is gna b my sdd just for recording) and the whole pc is gna cost £350 and couple of parts are brannd new like psu case ram mayb gpu (coz want the box for display :D)
should i go for the gtx 960 rather than the 950 but the 950 is £105 and the 960 is £145 and found the most amazing deal asus rampage iii gene with a i7 950 and 4gb ram and got 2 pcie and 1 pci and what are those mini pci shits annd 1 of those for only £135!!!!
I tried it and it worked amazing. I paired it with GTx 960 and there is no overclock. I pushed this CPU @4ghz without any issue but the Temps are so high. Im planning to water cooler this and push it more. This thing is a beast when it comes to price to performance. You can see my videos for x5460 if you like to. Thankyou for the awesome TUT. SUBBED! :)
I just played around with this myself. There are Xeons that are 775, not 771. In either case you need a mobo that has a chipset new enough to work with the Xeons. I had a Lenovo M58 (old work pc) and read it "should work". Chip was recognized and booted. it kept running errors so i went to flash the bios. there is a 10% chance of a bios flash bricking a mobo and i was a lucky winner!!! Part 2 of this build is now an Intel DP45SG ddr3 mobo, Xeon x3360 with the 12mb l2, a Radion Gigabit 6850, 8 gigs Gskill ram, Samsung evo 850 ssd. total invested is under $300 and it will run with a i7 4790k all day. Also remember the Xeons for the most part done have integrated graphics.
I did the same recently and it works really good! You only should have precised that not every chipset supports every xeon... I mean the 3xxx and 5xxx series. Otherwise great video man i really like your channel !
Got my hands on cheap 775 boards. I build three systems with x5450's from aliexpress (It was alot of fun) better to see those systems being used up instead of thrown away. So the Asus P5KPL-AM/PS booted but needed microcode update "to unleash full power", worked after update cpu-z 1.78 bench was 1028/3906 instead of 700 single core performance because it was using a microcode from 2008 from a C2Q. Second board was a Asus P5K, easy to add microcode like other Asus boards using MMTOOL provided by AMI. Worked great, the P5K did a little better on overclocking. Third system was a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L. Did not have to update the microcode, it seemed to be fine. Performance was what it should be, but just in case modified the BIOS. Was a bit harder because it is a AWARD BIOS. Overclocking on the Gigabyte board was a lot more fun I was about to go to 4Ghz with some tweaks but I had to overvolt NB and SB which is bad for the board on long term. A x5450 @ 4Ghz pumps around 1379 single and 5191 in multi in CPU-Z 1.78 ! For a 2007 CPU this is really crazy shit !
I have also seen people selling pre-modded chips. They file out the two notches on the PCB and use some kind of permanent insulating material like UV-curing soldermask to block the pins. No need to cut your CPU socket when buying those kind of chip. (bit I won't buy them as I prefer DP configurations using dual-socket boards if those CPUs are used)
How are people JUST catching on to this? This is literally YEARS old. I used it for a few more years then upgraded happily to a AMD FX 8320E Overclocked to 4GHZ. Best choice ever the FX 8320E at 4GHZ rocks.
I did this about 3yers ago. Went from a E5200 oc @ 3.3hgz, to a E5440 with the same oc frequency. Even today is probably the best buy cpu, for gaming or editing. In my country you can buy this cpu for around 15$, and it's a quad core, 12mb cache with 2,83ghz stock.
I've since got new hardware, but I went through all this using information available online. It truly is more cost effective to go this way instead of looking at the highest end CPU for your motherboard. If you try booting up off Linux, you can avoid needing to update your BIOS because it is already in that system. But of course if you are trying to load up much else, then putting that microcode in place is required. Space isn't exactly huge on BIOS ROM, so hopefully you can just add everything and see it work, otherwise you will have to narrow down your selection so that it fits and it works. Oh, and always expect to panic like you screwed everything up and wish you never messed with it.
Great video, really enjoyed it. I've never seen this done before and didn't even know you could do this. If I may I'd offer a little suggestion about the intro music. I see this a lot on tech channels, they use very high energy trance type stuff but then when they cut to the main content the drop in levels is jarring. So you're really laid back here talking clearly but calmly. Trance music isn't what I'd pair with that. I think you need music to fit the style and mood of the content your making. Something a bit more ambient and laid back perhaps? But ah its just a tiny nibble of a thing, hardly worth worrying about. If you like it, go for it.
Never thought to use an old CPU to protect the socket when I did this back in early 2015. I wish you would have explained that the sticker is actually flipping two of the pins around, rather than just arbitrarily saying "it makes it work". On the P5Q Pro Turbo I had to inject microcode into the BIOS to make it work, but prior to doing that it would actually default to using microcode for a 9650. I was then able to boot into windows, setup my modded bios, and reflash it all with the X5470 already installed. Just over 3 years later, the system still runs, even with the original sticker. I was a little worried about overclocking/ high temps with that sticker involved, but it has stood up just fine.
So I went ahead and did the mod after a 1500$ price quote for an amd rig i wanted to build.My old duo core pc was built out of two year old tech when I got it in 2010,so it wasnt cutting edge by any means to begin with.A duo core e8400 with 4gbs ram and a sapphire HD4850 1gb.I ordered a xeon X5450 from france and 8gb ram,plus a Asus R9 380 4gb OC edition.The Xeon took three weeks to get here so I had time to play with the extra ram and better gpu with my old e8400 and surprisingly,the old warhorse still crushes most games.Unfortunately,when the xeon showed up I discovered that the TX3 cpu cooler i bought was incapable of keeping the cpu under its thermal limit unless I either downclock it,or turn off q-fan and let the thing run at 2800 rpm's non stop.The only two games that I have that perform better with the xeon @ 2.8ghz right now is subnautica and squad,and squad by not much at all.Even Arma2 runs better with my wolfdale.now I have to decide if I plunk down 50$ and order a E5450 that has 35w less tdp or spend about the same amount and get a cooler that can do the job.I know the Xeon will oc to 3.8 as I ran the system for about 12 hours before the thermal limit was breached,for some reason my wolfdale wont go over 3.6ghz.I need the xeon to be @ 3.6ghz at least if I dont want to suffer a performance hit on 95% of my games.But for those twelve hours or so that my system ran with a 3.8ghz quad core with 12mb cache,It was crushing squad on high-epic settings,using 2550x1440p down scaled to play on my 42" 70hz tv.Subnautica doesnt run quite as well,though.I get anywhere from 60+ fps to mid twenty's on medium settings in 1080p.Though that game looks amazing even on medium settings.Its a lot of fun to see a almost ten year old pc perform like that!
x5460 £15 cpu cooler £6 thermal compound £1 lga 775 adapter £1 8gb ddr2 £12 1tb HDD £25 pc case £27 400w psu 80 plus £26 gtx 1050 ti £125 i built a gaming pc for £240 go ahead and convert that into dollars or whatever
I know this is an old video but it's just popped up on my feed. I done this mod years ago on my 775 board because my q6600 was getting a bit old and I replaced it with the x5450. It basically seen me through another 10 months before I upgraded to the 6700k
I bought a HP Dx2400 $25 and bought a Xeon X5450 for $17 on Ebay dropped in a 750Ti FTW Edtion for $50 along with a Thermaltake 550 Watt PSU $5 and the 8Gb of DDR2 800Mhz CL6 ram I had in my old Dell E520 that burned up and the HP is a sleeper :)
Sweet you're using almost the same mobo as me (mines a p50-k)! Just got a heap of pcs in a dirt cheap parts hunt. Picked up this mobo with a q6600 c2duo,450watt psu in an old cooler master case for $10. Gunna try to shape it into a ultra low budget potato gaming rig. Oh i also got a fx 6100 6core,8gb ram,cooler and gigabyte am3 mobo combo deal for $15 in this hunt lol i got a great connect on parts
Might be time to upgrade my q6600 on the cheap. Will have to checkout benchmarks first to make sure the 771 chip I buy is an upgrade. Not a down grade!
Running a x5470 on a Gigabyte GA-EP45T-USB3P using this mod first try. Didn't need to update the bios. Just did the mod, stuffed it in, and booted! Brought new life to my home linux headless file server/transmission torrent box/minecraft server/factorio server/half-life server/website server/time server pool box/as well as folding@home on the cpu (now). I have been seeing how far I can undervolt the thing because this xeon is very power hungry. I'm idling at about 80w with a minimal fanless video card, and an ssd with only 2 fans. It can get up to about 150w under full load folding@home on 4 cores. It produces anywhere from 11k ppd to 21k ppd. That's freaking awesome and I never expected that from such an old chip.
I also upgraded last week, but E5472 into GA-EP43-DS3L and it went mostly well, apart from almost wrecking my OS because I was impatient, but I am having few issues. My computer won't enter S1, and sound has a lot micro popping. Would patching bios help it?
Hey i have the same mobo as you and things went well too until it didnt. I had to take out two sticks of ram for the computer to run and im not okay with that. you know whats wrong with mine? is this a bios issue? nothing Tech city shows worked when it came to bios. I couldnt run the bios after turning all my bin files to Rom files
John Lee for bios files, shown method works only for ami bios, and my DS3L has Award, I haven't really pursued it. For ram, does it fail to post or boot to OS? I'm using 2x2+2x1GB with different timings and on default settings it crashes on boot but post goes well. You might look into that to at least use more ram. If it fails to post, then you're kinda out of luck.
***** unfortunately, because of past over clocking settings for some reason, the xeon won't allow two slots of ram to be used... I restored factory settings. Now it works :/ but the whole point was to oc.
I've read about it quite some time ago, but since you mentioned about it again I'm about to have some fun with modding. Only if X5470 where a bit cheaper, we could get insta 4Ghz only from changing FSB to 400Mhz, but i guess 3,8 is not that bad for 30$ cpu lol. Let me vacuum my precise tools, it wasn't used since Athlon XP times :S
This became my instant favorite channel of youtube! exactly what im looking for, also can you give me some advice I have a Q9450 on 6gb of DDr2 ram I don't really understand overclocking and would like to learn should I still do this mod and swap cpu's because i would actually would like to go to a evga mother board because of DDr3 and then run one of these cpu's ontop or should I swap to the DDR3 board keep my Q9450 and try to overclock unless you think the xenon is a much better upgrade because i wouldn't mind swapping cpu's since it's near "cleanse time". I just really need some good advice on what to do honestly before spending money. Love the channel man keep it up!
Last year I dug my 790i Ultra SLI out of ye olde PC parts closet to play around with a $30 X5492. Delid, liquid metal, lapped, and Relidded. OC to around 4030~MHz-ish on my old Zalman copper flower cooler. It never had an issue. The motherboard wasn't happy about it, though. The black/yellow caps around the 24 pin connector are about 3 chrome tabs away from popping. They never leaked, so I'm guessing it's going to be fireworks when they actually give out. If I ever play around with it again, that is.
Nice i actually did this about a year ago. Im using the asus p5q turbo along with a x5460 i have the oc to 4.2 at 1.30 volts. I got a really nice cpu cooler the cryorig H5 great cooler for 45 bucks. It keeps the xeon nice and cool around 65 under full load.
I have had the system below running for about 1 year as a a daily office P.C it has not blinked once. I brought the E5450 premodded for about $30AUD in 2018. CPU Type QuadCore Intel Xeon E5450, 3600 MHz (9 x 400) Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-P35-S3L (3 PCI, 3 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN) Motherboard Chipset Intel Bearlake P35 System Memory 8GB DIMM1: Patriot Memory PSD22G80026 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) DIMM2: Micron 16HTF25664AY-800J1 DIMM3: Patriot Memory PSD22G80026 DIMM4: Micron 16HTF25664AZ-800J1 BIOS Type Award Modular (06/19/09) - edited for the Xeon E5450 CPU Properties: CPU Type QuadCore Intel Xeon E5450, 3600 MHz (9 x 400) CPU Alias Harpertown CPU Stepping C0 Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1 Original Clock [ TRIAL VERSION ] Min / Max CPU Multiplier 6x / 9x Engineering Sample No L1 Code Cache 32 KB per core L1 Data Cache [ TRIAL VERSION ] L2 Cache 2x 6 MB (On-Die, ECC, ASC, Full-Speed)
i love when tech guys don't forget the past gen hardware. Magic things happen there XD
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That was very helpful thank you! I've bought a X5482 on eBay. The QX9775 sells for triple that!
did you update bios ?
Thanks for this Brian. My son has a friend who's family is not well off and I have a LOT of PC parts in my basement. I was going to build him a Scrapyard Wars 775 system using a Q6600. But then I came across this video of yours and I was inspired.
So there is a 5460 and a 771-775 mod strip on its way to me now. Thanks for this and all your used PC vids.
That's awesome man!
I hope he/she enjoys his/her new system! 😃
Hi friend how does 5460 compare the the q6600
I have the q6600 oc to 2.8ghz i was thinking of getting a 5460 but didnt want to spend and get the same performance
Does the 5460 overclock at all
I have an X5460, but personally I much prefer the E54XX and L54XX variants. They cost less, run cooler and overclock really well.
@@superdennisdt i have a e5440 oc'ed to 3.8 ghz and a x5470 oc'ed to 4.3 ghz so probably the x5460 its good
Hi. I'm in UK and I bought Dell Optiplex 380 off eBay for £20, I put in
E5450 (£12), 8GB RAM (£25), used 256GB SSD (obviously optional and that
cost me £55), GTX 750 2GB (non Ti card, those are very cheap on eBay now
and I paid for mine £48), it all works off 255W PSU, but it is 80+ Gold
rated PSU made by Delta, so it can handle the components with no
problems. So for less than £200 I play games in 1080p like Fallout 4,
Dying Light, Watch dogs, Sims 4 and even Witcher 3. Obviously not on
high or ultra, but for the money you spend it is a very decent machine.
Ustad mehenga lelia
Just did this on my daughters motherboard. WOW just WOW. She had an q6600 that i switched into an E5450. CSGO fps was 50-60 fps with a shitty gpu went to 110-120 with the e5450. Thanks for doing this guide it gave me the currage to try this.
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First video I saw of yours. I was thinking of upgrading my PC and this saved me a fortune. Went from a Quad Q8200 to a X5460. Managed to clock up to 4Ghz. My cinebench is nearly double the score! Thanks again dude. Love your channel
Dammit Bryan! Now this is gonna spread around the internet until Intel's retroactively forcing motherboard manufacturers to disable this feature via a BIOS update for who knows how old hardware.
+88lochi Lol doubt they will bother at this stage!
+Tech YES City what! no overclocking on that xeon?
Nah it overclocks well, just the DDR2 holding me back!
+Tech YES City Do you know if I could run ddr3 1600 RAM at 1333 on a 775 motherboard
Depends, just check if the ram dimms are supported by the mobo manufacturer, it should default at 1333 anyhow.
I just did Xeon X5450 on Asus P5QL and everything works like charm. Before MOD CPU motherboard wanted a BIOS update and Win 7 and 10 wouldn't boot. Thanks, mate.
make lga775 great again
it's always been
loGi my rig begs to differ
You're like the crazy Australian version of RandomGaminginHD
Great video,btw.
You could also file 2 new notches in the Xeon cpu and avoid potential damage to the motherboard
I am using about a year now a Xeon E5450 on an Asrock G41C-GS having done this mod.
Works like a charm.
I bought the 3GHz Xeon for 40 Euros instead of the 110 Euros the Core 2 Quad 9650 would cost me.
did u do bios update ?
I love these mods. Great job.
Such a great idea. I did it last week and doing it again next week. $18-$20 for an E5450 on ebay and $1.50 for the sticker. It's 80 watts and a good deal faster than the 105 watt Q6600. It's also cheaper than the top 775 Quad the 95 watt Q9650. Nice tip with cutting the taps with the CPU in there. I also used a brand new blade on my utility knife.
using Xeon E5450 at 3.60 GHZ its amazing!
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Rednassie i use asus p5kpl but I only have 2 ram slots and I think I'm gonna buy a dell vostro 200 mobo they're like 25 bucks on ebay
I have an E5440 in an 8 year old old Dell Optiplex 330 that I modded about a year and a half ago. It's got the same horsepower as my Haswell i5 laptop at work.
the e5650 is the six core version. it is epiccccc!
Nice...that's a 20% overclock. I have the same processor on its way to me right now. Is yours still running stable?
I have wondered for a while if LGA771 chips would work in 775 board. Glad to see they do. Thank you.
What system are you currently running?
TheD3monDev I have a z77 platform and a Mac Pro.
I had an older P45 board for a while and it was amazing for the time. I wish I haven’t spent so much on a high end Core 2 Quad and had known that a Xeon Quad Core would have worked. (:
You're like that cool uncle everyone brings their malware-infested-internet-explorer-PCs to. Man, so cool.
What did you think of Wticher 3?
lol
@coldsore flash the hdd??? Lol 😂
W19 ELY means code some parallels wiv cuda to Sata like openMP? Prescott,yunno,prolly 1984s!(digital?!)
Using an old 775 cpu as a "template" to protect the pins while cutting out the plastic notches is a great idea. I wish I had thought of that. I was very nervous and shakey while cutting the notches out. Kudos.
So... many... ghetto pc mods.... you evil evil man o.o you're gonna cause intel to start becoming even more paranoid.
+The Romanian Reaver I can already see all the incoming RMA attempts XD.
xxxmrhankixxx
The entire thing's probably less than a bucket of KFC now so grow some balls, grab some koolaid and git'er'dun boy!
+The Romanian Reaver hai noroc.Totusi pentru unii modurile acestea sunt folositoare
Vrzgr Sgu
Da dar tot o sa fie Intel cu morcovu bagat ca nu mai muta atatea unitati de CPU de generatia Skylake :)).
+The Romanian Reaver they're great, screw intel's monopoly and stagnant cpu performance
I had a problem where my PC would hang after posting but now it works perfectly when i updated the BIOS, many thx ;)
could u do a video about streaming pcs and gaming on the same system and do a comparison on different systems?
Wow! I was thinking about doing this today 😳 perfect timing!
Using my X5460 at 4ghz and it is pretty premium :)
Props
Which mobo are you using
Can u play modern titles with it
really good to know in case i'm in the market for getting a cheap pc that performs decent enough. subscribed.
after the 771 mod, can I use the original 775 CPU in the motherboard , or it won't fit?
atharva koli It will fit, but you have to make sure you put it in the right way
you are doing god's work!! These past couple of vids and the current one are going to revive so many old pc's!!!
macgyver of computers..Wish there was a mod for the 1156 socket. I went to a store yesterday looking for a cheap cpu and the guy there gave me a i3-550 but they didnt have a mobo for it..Mobo's with the 1156 socket are so freaking expensive. Was hoping to throw some old parts together for a quick sell to fund a new part for myself but idk if it's worth the investment for a mobo at this point. Not to mention i'd still need some ram.
Ran into the same problem with the X56xx Xeons and the 1366 mobos. Spend about the same as a new board.
I have 3 771 Xeonsystem at home, basically I have tested every L, X and E variant and I can say that the E5450 (E0) is the best choice here, since it has the lowest thermal output. Great overclocker @ 9x400 = 3,6GHz.
lol i still have my q9550
Ayy I picked up two X5460s. When I first googled that CPU I was immediately greeted with a post about using LGA771 CPUs on LGA775 with a simple mod, so obviously this was going to have to happen. I then searched "LGA771 on LGA775" or similar and saw Mr Tech YES greeting me. Of course you would have a video on the matter :D Thanks man!
Who is also waching it in 2024?
Just prepping to apply this mod in our home built server
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The algorithm at it's best
Your a cool dude. I just like popping on and seeing what you`ve been up to. Doing this mod today. Thanks for the help!
if anyone needs a cheap motherboard to do this on, pick up this old dell motherboard from ebay:
www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspiron-530-530s-Vostro-200s-200-MainBoard-Motherboard-FM586-G33M03-GN723-/151902517936?hash=item235e187ab0:g:1FgAAOSwnLdWqjhH
This board is really a foxconn G33m03 motherboard that has been rebadged as a dell motherboard. It is a standard mATX motherboard that can use standard LGA 775 CPU coolers so no proprietary dell bullshit here. I have personally tested this board to work with the intel Xeon E5450 without microcode updates or bios mods needed. :)
+Dylan 873 Thats pretty nice I might check it out.
thanks
+Dylan 873 Can't really recommend a dell vostro mb. Got a vostro 220 mb laying arround here, tried the mod on it with a xeon x5450. Didn't turn out so well, pc booted but was super slow, even after bios modding it.
Swapped it with a GA-G31M-ES2L and everythings fine now.
Really? Because I got this board to work totally fine with a xeon e5450 and the darn board worked flawlewssly. The reason I bought it is because I found the thing on ebay for $20 whereas that gigabyte board was going for well over 50 on ebay for a buy it now auction. I did a build log of it over on the LinusTechTips forum:
linustechtips.com/main/topic/573319-the-200-csgo-and-minecraft-machine/?do=findComment&comment=7510161
Well I don't know about the other dell vostro motherboards. It probably runs better on your dell vostro 400 mb then. Could however also be the CPU, I was using a x5450 while you're running it with an e5440.
I stumbled over this when looking up CPU upgrade matches for a motherboard I was given... strangely, one Xeon was listed, and I'm like... okay? I searched around, found that odd pin-strip adapter first, "what's this for?", then enter this rabbit hole. Now I've got 2 Xeons and 3 adapter strips on their way to me. I had no idea Xeons were that close matches... and these things are more powerful than you can buy new today. 10 year old hardware now... still more powerful than bargain-bin crap that costs more.
Benchmarks !!!!!!!
X5460 has a CPU passmark rating of 4490. The E8400 that he started with had a passmark rating of 2179. So, he did double his performance. Not to mention the X5460 has 12MB of cache!!
I did my first ever 775 to 771 mod today on a Gigabyte EG45M DS2H. I was very nervous but did a lot of research on it beforehand. I carefully cut the plastic notches off the socket and inserted a Xeon X3363 ($15 pre modded on ebay). It didn't boot first time but after re-seating the CPU and clearing cmos of the latest F4 unmodified bios it booted up. CPU was recognized correctly so I set the time and date in bios, set SATA to AHCI, checked temperatures were alright and booted into windows 7 (64 bit). I successfully performed my first 775 to 771 $15 quad core upgrade. Woohoo!
Jason Alf What is your mobo name , also , nice luck ! Haha
4:04 that last step,it made all the diference, thanks for your help.
This is some of your best content yet ... the stuff noone talks about and helps the budget oriented! I have been wanting to do a channel like this myself :( looks like you beat me to it!
Just did this mod on my Plex server. Replaced the E6500 dual core with with a Xeon x5460 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 mobo. Cost $30. Made sure I updated to the latest the bios. It posted straight away. I had to remove the ram and put it back in to get windows to start. Didn't need me to add any microcode. Now it doesn't stutter when streaming HD content to my chromecast. Sweet.
Very much becoming my favorite Tech channel, please keep it up dude!
I got two Xeon E5450s, which are essentially 80-Watt versions of the Q9650. The difference is that I didn't cut away the tabs from the motherboards, I modified the CPU package with a small Dremel tool so that it would fit into any LGA775 socket without the socket being modified. Both CPU chips work and I successfully inserted the microcode into the BIOSs. One of those Xeons runs my home server, which runs a basic web server (for hosting driver packages and software installs for my older Win9x retro gaming systems that can't surf modern websites with their older browsers) and a PLEX media server. It's powerful enough to transcode two 1080p videos on the fly, so that's nice. I just wish the MB had more than 2 DDR2 slots so I could have installed 8GB instead of being limited to 4GB on a server.
Wow man with these low cost mods and your cheap but powerfull pc build I'm really enjoying your channel! keep like these!
Thanks for making this video and thanks for picking up my suggestion
+SrizyGaming Thanks for the information, these mods are a LOT of fun!
Hey
Thanks SOOO much for the $327 PC build getting the same pc but different mobo and gpu and MAYB the cpu to a i7 930 but my gpu is gna be a GTX 950 will that do 60fps high on bf4 whilst recording gameplay through DXtory (but my save clips bit is gna b my sdd just for recording) and the whole pc is gna cost £350 and couple of parts are brannd new like psu case ram mayb gpu (coz want the box for display :D)
Yeah I love this PC, sold it already for like $500 lol.
should i go for the gtx 960 rather than the 950 but the 950 is £105 and the 960 is £145 and found the most amazing deal asus rampage iii gene with a i7 950 and 4gb ram and got 2 pcie and 1 pci and what are those mini pci shits annd 1 of those for only £135!!!!
Good vid, Been watching you for years. Thx for showing me that you dont need £600 to build a gaming pc. Good vid thx bro
Thank you for this trick. I still run some 775 boards with C2D.
This will be a great upgrade and fun!
I tried it and it worked amazing. I paired it with GTx 960 and there is no overclock.
I pushed this CPU @4ghz without any issue but the Temps are so high.
Im planning to water cooler this and push it more.
This thing is a beast when it comes to price to performance.
You can see my videos for x5460 if you like to.
Thankyou for the awesome TUT.
SUBBED! :)
XeonGamin so you're going to spend 100 dollars to watercool an 8 dollar chip? why not just buy an i3 which would be faster
I just played around with this myself. There are Xeons that are 775, not 771. In either case you need a mobo that has a chipset new enough to work with the Xeons. I had a Lenovo M58 (old work pc) and read it "should work". Chip was recognized and booted. it kept running errors so i went to flash the bios. there is a 10% chance of a bios flash bricking a mobo and i was a lucky winner!!! Part 2 of this build is now an Intel DP45SG ddr3 mobo, Xeon x3360 with the 12mb l2, a Radion Gigabit 6850, 8 gigs Gskill ram, Samsung evo 850 ssd. total invested is under $300 and it will run with a i7 4790k all day. Also remember the Xeons for the most part done have integrated graphics.
I did the same recently and it works really good! You only should have precised that not every chipset supports every xeon... I mean the 3xxx and 5xxx series.
Otherwise great video man i really like your channel !
+Shiros4ki Yeah some of the older gen lga775s might not support it, i will add that disclaimer later.
Got my hands on cheap 775 boards. I build three systems with x5450's from aliexpress (It was alot of fun) better to see those systems being used up instead of thrown away. So the Asus P5KPL-AM/PS booted but needed microcode update "to unleash full power", worked after update cpu-z 1.78 bench was 1028/3906 instead of 700 single core performance because it was using a microcode from 2008 from a C2Q. Second board was a Asus P5K, easy to add microcode like other Asus boards using MMTOOL provided by AMI. Worked great, the P5K did a little better on overclocking. Third system was a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L. Did not have to update the microcode, it seemed to be fine. Performance was what it should be, but just in case modified the BIOS. Was a bit harder because it is a AWARD BIOS. Overclocking on the Gigabyte board was a lot more fun I was about to go to 4Ghz with some tweaks but I had to overvolt NB and SB which is bad for the board on long term. A x5450 @ 4Ghz pumps around 1379 single and 5191 in multi in CPU-Z 1.78 ! For a 2007 CPU this is really crazy shit !
Keep making great videos like this loving them.
I have also seen people selling pre-modded chips. They file out the two notches on the PCB and use some kind of permanent insulating material like UV-curing soldermask to block the pins. No need to cut your CPU socket when buying those kind of chip. (bit I won't buy them as I prefer DP configurations using dual-socket boards if those CPUs are used)
How are people JUST catching on to this? This is literally YEARS old. I used it for a few more years then upgraded happily to a AMD FX 8320E Overclocked to 4GHZ. Best choice ever the FX 8320E at 4GHZ rocks.
Just waiting for my X5460 to arrive. Can't wait to see how high it will go.
Gigabyte P35-DS3R
Those P35 boards are quite available form time to time.
Well it's sitting fine now and runs stable on 4.1 GHz
I did this about 3yers ago. Went from a E5200 oc @ 3.3hgz, to a E5440 with the same oc frequency. Even today is probably the best buy cpu, for gaming or editing. In my country you can buy this cpu for around 15$, and it's a quad core, 12mb cache with 2,83ghz stock.
Xeon 771's pull more wattage and even more so when overclocked. Make sure your CPU vrm area on your LGA775 board is up to snuff.
I like the way you set up the camera for the "talking head" in this video.
SO going to do this.
AWESOME.
You have a extra sub mate !
back in the day, I had a nVidia 790i Ultra motherboard, a q9550 Core 2 Quad, and 16gb ddr3 1800mhz. It was a beast. Recently upgrades to a 6700k
I've since got new hardware, but I went through all this using information available online. It truly is more cost effective to go this way instead of looking at the highest end CPU for your motherboard.
If you try booting up off Linux, you can avoid needing to update your BIOS because it is already in that system. But of course if you are trying to load up much else, then putting that microcode in place is required. Space isn't exactly huge on BIOS ROM, so hopefully you can just add everything and see it work, otherwise you will have to narrow down your selection so that it fits and it works.
Oh, and always expect to panic like you screwed everything up and wish you never messed with it.
Used computer are the best. You can play with it without even beeing afraid of damaging it since spare parts are cheap. Honestly it's a blast.
Great video, really enjoyed it. I've never seen this done before and didn't even know you could do this.
If I may I'd offer a little suggestion about the intro music. I see this a lot on tech channels, they use very high energy trance type stuff but then when they cut to the main content the drop in levels is jarring. So you're really laid back here talking clearly but calmly. Trance music isn't what I'd pair with that. I think you need music to fit the style and mood of the content your making. Something a bit more ambient and laid back perhaps? But ah its just a tiny nibble of a thing, hardly worth worrying about. If you like it, go for it.
if you want to do this mod, buy an E5450 instead of X5450, they use 40W less for the same performance
Brian man u never cease to amaze me., dope video
Thanks man this gonna get my ready for my mods I have 3 775 machines to try this on. I got the stickers already.
Never thought to use an old CPU to protect the socket when I did this back in early 2015. I wish you would have explained that the sticker is actually flipping two of the pins around, rather than just arbitrarily saying "it makes it work". On the P5Q Pro Turbo I had to inject microcode into the BIOS to make it work, but prior to doing that it would actually default to using microcode for a 9650. I was then able to boot into windows, setup my modded bios, and reflash it all with the X5470 already installed. Just over 3 years later, the system still runs, even with the original sticker. I was a little worried about overclocking/ high temps with that sticker involved, but it has stood up just fine.
So I went ahead and did the mod after a 1500$ price quote for an amd rig i wanted to build.My old duo core pc was built out of two year old tech when I got it in 2010,so it wasnt cutting edge by any means to begin with.A duo core e8400 with 4gbs ram and a sapphire HD4850 1gb.I ordered a xeon X5450 from france and 8gb ram,plus a Asus R9 380 4gb OC edition.The Xeon took three weeks to get here so I had time to play with the extra ram and better gpu with my old e8400 and surprisingly,the old warhorse still crushes most games.Unfortunately,when the xeon showed up I discovered that the TX3 cpu cooler i bought was incapable of keeping the cpu under its thermal limit unless I either downclock it,or turn off q-fan and let the thing run at 2800 rpm's non stop.The only two games that I have that perform better with the xeon @ 2.8ghz right now is subnautica and squad,and squad by not much at all.Even Arma2 runs better with my wolfdale.now I have to decide if I plunk down 50$ and order a E5450 that has 35w less tdp or spend about the same amount and get a cooler that can do the job.I know the Xeon will oc to 3.8 as I ran the system for about 12 hours before the thermal limit was breached,for some reason my wolfdale wont go over 3.6ghz.I need the xeon to be @ 3.6ghz at least if I dont want to suffer a performance hit on 95% of my games.But for those twelve hours or so that my system ran with a 3.8ghz quad core with 12mb cache,It was crushing squad on high-epic settings,using 2550x1440p down scaled to play on my 42" 70hz tv.Subnautica doesnt run quite as well,though.I get anywhere from 60+ fps to mid twenty's on medium settings in 1080p.Though that game looks amazing even on medium settings.Its a lot of fun to see a almost ten year old pc perform like that!
x5460 £15
cpu cooler £6
thermal compound £1
lga 775 adapter £1
8gb ddr2 £12
1tb HDD £25
pc case £27
400w psu 80 plus £26
gtx 1050 ti £125
i built a gaming pc for £240 go ahead and convert that into dollars or whatever
LGA 771 and 775 contact pads on the CPU are attractive.
i got acouple of xeaons laying around :P might try this one day ;) thnx for the vid as always
I have done this myself and works perfect. Was a killer system till I wanted to go to Win 10 which didn't support the Xeon I chose.
I know this is an old video but it's just popped up on my feed. I done this mod years ago on my 775 board because my q6600 was getting a bit old and I replaced it with the x5450.
It basically seen me through another 10 months before I upgraded to the 6700k
@3.52
Is that a small faze logo?!?!?!
Nice CPU you got there M8
Thanks a lot for the vid and needed the microcode. Works like a charm and this pc might actually be of use to someone now.
I did this not too long ago and was surprised how easy it was, but I wish I thought about using another CPU to protect the pins.
did mine 3 years ago good tip to cutting socket tabs heat blade with lighter cuts clean
I bought a HP Dx2400 $25 and bought a Xeon X5450 for $17 on Ebay dropped in a 750Ti FTW Edtion for $50 along with a Thermaltake 550 Watt PSU $5 and the 8Gb of DDR2 800Mhz CL6 ram I had in my old Dell E520 that burned up and the HP is a sleeper :)
Man I loved the P5Q-E Deluxe I had 3 of the same board used to be such a great overclocker.
I might do this for my new PC setup. Thank you!
Sweet you're using almost the same mobo as me (mines a p50-k)! Just got a heap of pcs in a dirt cheap parts hunt. Picked up this mobo with a q6600 c2duo,450watt psu in an old cooler master case for $10. Gunna try to shape it into a ultra low budget potato gaming rig. Oh i also got a fx 6100 6core,8gb ram,cooler and gigabyte am3 mobo combo deal for $15 in this hunt lol i got a great connect on parts
MAN I LOVE YOU YOU LITTLE WITCH!
Might be time to upgrade my q6600 on the cheap. Will have to checkout benchmarks first to make sure the 771 chip I buy is an upgrade. Not a down grade!
Ooooof old tech yes city, 2016 was a special year.
Favorited, going to be doing this in a few days. Also building my case from scratch... wheee...
Running a x5470 on a Gigabyte GA-EP45T-USB3P using this mod first try. Didn't need to update the bios. Just did the mod, stuffed it in, and booted! Brought new life to my home linux headless file server/transmission torrent box/minecraft server/factorio server/half-life server/website server/time server pool box/as well as folding@home on the cpu (now). I have been seeing how far I can undervolt the thing because this xeon is very power hungry. I'm idling at about 80w with a minimal fanless video card, and an ssd with only 2 fans. It can get up to about 150w under full load folding@home on 4 cores. It produces anywhere from 11k ppd to 21k ppd. That's freaking awesome and I never expected that from such an old chip.
Yeah LGA771 is so underrated, i love it.
I also upgraded last week, but E5472 into GA-EP43-DS3L and it went mostly well, apart from almost wrecking my OS because I was impatient, but I am having few issues.
My computer won't enter S1, and sound has a lot micro popping. Would patching bios help it?
Hey i have the same mobo as you and things went well too until it didnt. I had to take out two sticks of ram for the computer to run and im not okay with that. you know whats wrong with mine? is this a bios issue? nothing Tech city shows worked when it came to bios. I couldnt run the bios after turning all my bin files to Rom files
John Lee
for bios files, shown method works only for ami bios, and my DS3L has Award, I haven't really pursued it. For ram, does it fail to post or boot to OS? I'm using 2x2+2x1GB with different timings and on default settings it crashes on boot but post goes well. You might look into that to at least use more ram. If it fails to post, then you're kinda out of luck.
***** unfortunately, because of past over clocking settings for some reason, the xeon won't allow two slots of ram to be used... I restored factory settings. Now it works :/ but the whole point was to oc.
I've read about it quite some time ago, but since you mentioned about it again I'm about to have some fun with modding. Only if X5470 where a bit cheaper, we could get insta 4Ghz only from changing FSB to 400Mhz, but i guess 3,8 is not that bad for 30$ cpu lol. Let me vacuum my precise tools, it wasn't used since Athlon XP times :S
Brian doing dopest builds good one buddy :)
This became my instant favorite channel of youtube! exactly what im looking for, also can you give me some advice I have a Q9450 on 6gb of DDr2 ram I don't really understand overclocking and would like to learn should I still do this mod and swap cpu's because i would actually would like to go to a evga mother board because of DDr3 and then run one of these cpu's ontop or should I swap to the DDR3 board keep my Q9450 and try to overclock unless you think the xenon is a much better upgrade because i wouldn't mind swapping cpu's since it's near "cleanse time". I just really need some good advice on what to do honestly before spending money. Love the channel man keep it up!
Wow, you make this look so easy, I almost want to do this even though I have literally no need for it, my 4790k is doing just fine...
keep in mind that your board needs to support the fsb speed of your xeon.
you are a wizard harry, a pc wizard
Thank you , I did this on a dell Vostro 230, with a Xeon x5460, I linked to you too, 😃
u should start a series where u just do simple getto tricks and tweaks similar to this, cos there are not a lot of it on TH-cam
+Shag Mother Was thinking about starting something, just trying to get production values up before I do and get in a solid rhythm.
Last year I dug my 790i Ultra SLI out of ye olde PC parts closet to play around with a $30 X5492. Delid, liquid metal, lapped, and Relidded. OC to around 4030~MHz-ish on my old Zalman copper flower cooler. It never had an issue. The motherboard wasn't happy about it, though. The black/yellow caps around the 24 pin connector are about 3 chrome tabs away from popping. They never leaked, so I'm guessing it's going to be fireworks when they actually give out. If I ever play around with it again, that is.
IMO x5470 is the best choice... It has a 10x multiplier which means it's practically an unlocked CPU... they are also cheap now
The Xeon with the 1600 Mhz FSB sure beats the Core 2 Extreme price wise... now I can use all of my DDR 8500 Ram speed...
Nice i actually did this about a year ago. Im using the asus p5q turbo along with a x5460 i have the oc to 4.2 at 1.30 volts. I got a really nice cpu cooler the cryorig H5 great cooler for 45 bucks. It keeps the xeon nice and cool around 65 under full load.
I have had the system below running for about 1 year as a a daily office P.C it has not blinked once. I brought the E5450 premodded for about $30AUD in 2018.
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Xeon E5450, 3600 MHz (9 x 400)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-P35-S3L (3 PCI, 3 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Bearlake P35
System Memory 8GB
DIMM1: Patriot Memory PSD22G80026 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
DIMM2: Micron 16HTF25664AY-800J1
DIMM3: Patriot Memory PSD22G80026
DIMM4: Micron 16HTF25664AZ-800J1
BIOS Type Award Modular (06/19/09) - edited for the Xeon E5450
CPU Properties:
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Xeon E5450, 3600 MHz (9 x 400)
CPU Alias Harpertown
CPU Stepping C0
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1
Original Clock [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 6x / 9x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Code Cache 32 KB per core
L1 Data Cache [ TRIAL VERSION ]
L2 Cache 2x 6 MB (On-Die, ECC, ASC, Full-Speed)
Can you do a performance benchmark (games and synthetic)? I'd like to see how the Xeon you used stacks up to today's cpus.
actually preparing the sticker was a pain in the arse
Reminds me on my old AMD setup :D Nice Job :-)