Update: I have fixed the rubber flaps! But I won't test the weather-sealing haha. Indeed, I agree, well done Nikon! The Z5 deserves a bit more attention!
@@guentermartinsich9898 I bought third party replacements from Lazada (online selling platform in Malaysia), ripped off the old ones and attach the new ones. The covers for Z5, Z6, Z7, Z6 II and Z7 II are the same, so the replacement rubber covers are plentiful and quite easy to find. Not sure about ZF though, since it is a new camera.
The Z5 is so very underrated. Its better the than the applauded 750; and when introduced most reviewers were saying don't but the Z6 unless into video. Even using as a webcam the resolution beats anything AT EVEN 4K
I have had only Nikon cameras all my life, and now at 72 I enjoy them as much as I have since the first one. I bought a Z5 last year, the first full frame camera I've purchased, and am very pleased. I still have a D7200 that complements the Z5 nicely. I would like for you to do a complete "recommended settings" video for the Z5 if you have time.
I got this camera specifically because I only shoot stills. With prime 28/2.8, 40/2 and couple other prime lenses (adapted) this is very hard to beat. Absolutely perfect camera.
Great video! I bought a used Z5 last year and it has been a gem of a camera. Beautiful image files, solid eye autofocus, and great ergonomics for a killer price especially buying used. I love this camera and highly recommend it to anyone looking to jump into mirrorless full frame.
I have been using the Z5 with the 50 f/1.8 S and 28 f2.8 for years - it’s a great camera! You can set the focus to a function button instead of the ok button, btw
Hey Matti you asked me to give some feedback and I'm thinking considering the Z5 is such an affordable full frame, dual card slot, IBIS toting, no skimping on ergonomics all round camera with Z mount, access to all Nikon glass, and almost every other mount under the sun (including e-mount). How can you go wrong. Talking video, you called it 'lame'. It delivers 4K 24,25 and 30p with a 1.7x crop. APSC is 1.5x (Nikon, Sony) and 1.6x in Canon, and you seemed to compare it at times to your a6700 APSC which has a constant 1.5x crop. For a content creator sitting in their studio turning their 28mm lens into a 47.6mm FOV eqv, I shoot almost all of my talking heads at 50mm. So for a content creator it is great. And if you want to vlog on the run you can grab a 16mm (27mm FOV eqv.), 18, or 20mm. For me considering the solid entry level photography spec, and the fact I can still get 4K for any situation, you just need to choose the right lens, and if you need, you can get 60p in 1080p, 2.5x slow mo in 24p timeline. As for the rubber sealing ... I live in Australia, I still own Nikon cameras from almost 20 years ago, their seals over the ports still work all these years, as they originally did. As was said somewhere, the Z5 camera you are using in this video was purchased 2nd hand by your friend. There is no way of knowing how it has been treated. Also I wonder if more humid environments cause the rubber to act in different ways as I have never experienced this here in Australia, I live in the south, not much humidity here. The Z5 is four years old, and is a previous generation camera from Nikon Expeed 6. The Expeed 7 Zf, if you had compared, yes more expensive, but an absolutely outstanding full frame camera, with great video spec and stills spec, AF focus up with the Z8 and Z9, an IBIS unit bettered by none, and still very affordable. I can see today the A7 C II is $2198 vs Zf $1996, perhaps two cameras that are closer together in spec, than Z5 ($1296 full frame) and a6700 ($1398 APSC), which seem hard to compare other than price. Card slots different, sensor size different, ergonomics different, video spec different, generation different .... and so on.
Thanks so much for your feedback my friend. I did not compare the Z5 to any specific Sony but I mentioned Sony's different approach to focus tracking. I'm thinking if you buy full frame you'd want full frame video (4k) too and that's my reason to call the video features lame. My good friend and a long time Nikon shooter in Finland (not hot nor humid) says his Z6 has similar issue with the rubber flaps. There are other reports as well. So I guess it is some kind of a problem but your experience shows it's not a universal problem. The global pricing is interesting. In Finland the Zf is about 100€ more expensive than the A7CII. Anyway, as I said in the video, the Z5 is an excellent camera and an excellent value.
@@mattisulanto :) Now worries Matti, perhaps there is more moisture in Finland, rain and snow, than Australia. And as these parts are made of rubber, I could see moisture changing the equation. From myA7R, A7R III D3s, D4 D850, Z6, Z6 II Z7 and more, all their seals are still working as originally intended. So indeed the world is varied, experience is varied and mileage does seem to vary. As for full frame sensor and not getting the full read out in its highest res. Indeed that is the case. There are other notable cameras that come to mind that have the similar attributes, one for example the A7R V shoots 8K (its highest spec) and at 8K 24p there is a crop of 1.24 X. In both cases what we can see is the camera companies are pushing their cameras as hard as they can. And in both cases the cameras can only read the actual pixels for the video resolution, and there is not sufficient power to use the full frame and interpolated to the given resolution. It's a pretty standard move. The very new A7C II in 4k 50P is 1.5x crop, I would prefer to have 50P with crop than not. So in these cases, the Z5 and A7R V A7C II, personally I am happy that we get 4K and 8K respectively and pushed frame rates, rather than Sony or Nikon saying we cant get full frame, so we won't offer it. Ultimately I see it as an advantage, having the higher spec video with a crop in each case, rather than not getting the higher spec. :)
Z series cameras don't have the same build quality like Nikon DSLRs. In India,service centres are flooded with swollen rubbers,and adding to the woe,the lcd displays often develop cable problem.
I got my brand new Z5 from Germany last year, for 900€. It was a great purchase which allowed me to spend more on lenses. I still wish for something like Z3 with the same specs just no viewfinder :))
That combo is perfect, or near perfect, for street photography. I love it! The Zeee5 😁 $996 USD when on sale in USA -- 40mm less is also low priced. You mentioned the old days..... Samy, of Samy's Camera has passed away. He will be missed.
I may be two months late but I have been rocking the Z5 for a few months now and I mapped the AF on one of the buttons on the front, when I click it, I could scroll the back dial to whether I want AF-s or AF-C and then the front dial for each options for each AF mode. It definitely improves my workflow!
I just bought a z5 after using a d600 for the last 10 years, original plan was to use all my old glass on the ftz adapter, found them a bit noisey without a stepper motor. So decided to pick up the viltrox 20mm 2.8 and it really makes a difference, turning the camera into an everyday carry.
I bought this camera used about a year ago. The AF options took me a while to get used to (my previous camera was Nikon d5100). The articulating screen was a disappointment as the 5100 had a much better articulating mechanism. My final gripe is the remote. Using a wireless remote on the 5100 worked well. On the Z5 you must use the app which has frequent hiccups. The bluetooth remote while technically works is totally unusable in practice. Overall I love the Z5, especially the image quality! I’m still experimenting with lenses to see which tradeoffs I’m willling to live with (too heavy vs high variable aperture vs prime, etc). I started with 24-200 with 50mm prime. Right now I have 28-400 for outdoors and travel and 24-70 2.8 for indoors plus outdoor portraits. Both are very heavy. I’m thinking of going to 24-70 4 and 50mm (while keeping the 28-400). It seems silly to have 3 lenses that all cover 50mm, but that lens is sooo good.
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Matti, they also make a really sharp 50mm lens for Z mount in the Nikkor lens line. A real value lens, which goes on sale now and then. I am shooting the Nikon and Lumix, with occasional Olympus, more and more, as the Canon RP sits on the shelf. The Nikon Z5 simply outshines the RP, though that camera was once a fair deal. The dynamic range and so much more just places the Canon down a notch or two.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this yet but you can assign a function on a function button in front of the camera to quickly turn off face detection. I use it all the time.
For the z5 video I was worried about not having 10bit nlog, but so far it works well with davinci resolve combined with filmconvert nitrate, I can get the film look.
You have to set tracking to a function button. With that you can track object and override eye af. You can also switch tracking on and off very easily. It’s quite quick operation that way
I love my Nikon Z5 and for what I shoot I don't feel the need (at this time) to get a Z*II or Z*III. I have two Z lenses, the Nikon 24-120mm f4 S and the Viltrox 16mm f1.8. I also have my af-s Nikkor 50mm f1.8 and af-s 80-400mm that I use with ZTF adapter.
Hi Matti, i agree with you that it is unique to have two card slots on an entry level camera. I do like Nikon's 40mm lenses as i have a 40mm F/2 8 lens and the colours really do pop. I would say my 40mm F/2.8 is sharper than my 35mm F/1.8, except for Bokeh where my 35mm wins in that department. Thanks for this video as i have a soft spot for Nikon. 😊
Hi Matti - nice overview. That said, you should keep in mind that when you compare the tracking of the Z5 to the A7 IV you are literally comparing a generation 1 camera to a generation 4 camera from Sony. Have you tried any of the Nikons with the Expeed 7 processor like the Zf or Z8/9 (Z5 is using Expeed 6)? If so, you would find that these cameras auto focus and tracking are on par and in some ways superior now to modern Sonys. As you pointed out, the Z5 is now 4 years old - it is expected to be refreshed soon and when it is it will have the new Expeed 7 and all the benefits that come with that processor. Nothing on the market will come close to that camera for under $2000 USD and my guess it the Z5 will not exceed $1500. You mention how good the 40mm f/2 is for its price point and you are correct. Have you tried other Z lenses or any from the S line (pro line)? The Z lenses are class leading across the board. Nikon now has the best set of 1.8 primes for any system and their 1.2's are exceptional and ground breaking. The Z mount, which is physically superior to all other mounts due to its 55mm throat diameter and 16mm flange - allowing for optical designs that simply are not possible on other mounts - especially the Sony E mount that is a jury rigged APS-C mount with a mere 48mm throat diameter. As such, Nikon is now able to make superior optics for the Z mount that cannot be matched and we have seen this for the last 2 years - Nikon boasting the best telephotos in the business now and their standard primes (as mentioned above) are class leading. Furthermore, due to the dimensions of the Z mount it is possible to adapt lenses from other systems to Z camera - this is NOT true in reverse. For example. with the newest Megadap Pro adaptor we can now adapt all Sony E mount lenses to the Z system with near native and in many cases native functionality - meaning that any Sony lens is now a Z mount lens. The same is true for Fuji X mount, Canon EF mount, and Leica M mount. It is just a matter of time until there is an RF to Z.mount converter - especially now that Nikon has bought RED which uses the RF mount. Speaking of RED and video - you mention that the Z5 is not a great video camera and you are most correct - that was not really part of its design parameters, but the Z8/9 are literally the best hybrid full frame video cameras on the market and have been now since the inception of the Z9 at the end of 2021. There is no Sony hybrid camera that can do what the Z8/9 can do. And - all of this is prior to Nikon incorporating any of its newfound cutting edge video technology that they now have access to due to their acquisition of RED. If there were ever a reason to come back to Nikon (I never left and have been shooting Nikon since 1986), its now. There is nothing that your A7 IV can do that the upcoming Z6III (to be releases in the next couple months) will not do better for the same price or less, and you will have access to the superior Z lenses and most importantly superior Z mount. As far as your Sony glass goes, just get the Megadap adaptor which is not expensive (something like $250) and then you can adapt all your Sony lenses to your new Nikon with full functionality - also this adds only 2mm of length and almost no weight to the set up. The Z6III is expected to be a monster video camera as well as being as top notch stills camera - it is expected to shoot up to 6k 60 with no crop and with internal 12 bit RAW capability. Your issues with the menu and switching between modes and subject detection have been fully addressed in more recent Nikon cameras and will be fully addressed in the Z6III as well so no need to worry about any of that. Its a great time to be a Nikon shooter - do yourself a favor and come on back. As noted, your cost to switch is minimal as you can still use all your Sony lenses for the small fee of the Megadap adaptor, but you will find that you will not use many of them in short order as you start to pick up Z lenses and phase out the Sony ones. The Z lenses (more often than not) are just better - seriously, go see for yourself - you will not be sorry. -PD
Thanks for your extensive comment. The rumored Z6III would of course be an awesome camera but also newer than the A7IV and therefore any comparison would be unfair😀 I'd love to own every camera system from Canon to Panasonic and everything in between. However that is not possible because I can't afford all that😀 Unfortunately I can't become 100% Nikon shooter for mainly two reasons. 1. There is no Nikon representative in my home country. As a TH-camr I want to have a direct contact to my camera brand and I want to be able to borrow gear if necessary for testing. 2. As a TH-camr I want to able to test and try out third party lenses. Right now the support for Sony is still way better than Nikon support. That may change in the future but not any time soon.
@@mattisulanto Understood - those are some good reasons. Its too bad, maybe Nikon will step up their support game along with how much they have stepped up the products. As far as the Z6III being newer than the A7IV that is correct and a reasonable assertion. I suspect that the Z6III will easily compete with a newer A7V in the future however as Nikon has built in to their cameras longevity through a firmware update program that is second to none. I think we will see Nikon cameras out pacing the others more and more in the next few years, but we will have to see. In any event, I understand your reasons, but again you could stay with Sony and simply buy one Nikon body and the Megadap and then just use your Sony glass (for now) - at least this way you would have the benefit and fun of shooting the Nikon which we both know the Sony's just don't provide. Sony's are good functional tools but relatively soulless to use - any old school photographer (like yourself) knows this - in some ways this is the reason for the success of products like the Zf. Anyway, thanks for the video - all the best! :) -PD
Hi Matti, I think even Nikon recommends programming fn1 to tracking activation. No idea why they preprogrammed it to be the ok button... But that's the solution!
Almost bought one! Found a Lumix S5 at a lower price and went with that instead, mainly for better video and access to the Sigma Contemporary lenses. Gotta admit I'm a little jealous of the Nikon 40mm f/2 prime though, it looks like a great walkaround lens.
I had a Z5 for a short time and couldn't get on with it for a number of reasons. One of the main ones was the level indicator which looks as if it has been borrowed from a flight simulator. I think Olympus are the best at this because they have both horizontal and vertical, and they are at the bottom and side so don't obscure the central area.
La Z5 es la mejor full frame sin espejo por la ecuación precio-prestaciones y rendimiento. Y con los lentes S de esta nueva montura se potencia muchísimo. Por ejemplo, el z50 mm f1.8 es fabuloso. Pero ese 40mm para foto callejera es increíble, gran combinación!!!!!
Nikon s line lens is very good lens but it is a little bit heavy so I only choose 24-70/4 and 50/1.8. Because it is economical especially in second hand. This two lens can make you feel Nikon camera can take very good quality photos.
I own this camera it the 24-50 kit lens and it’s An amazing camera for the money and the quality of the camera is very good as well and I like the creative profiles very similar to Fuji cameras.
Great camera for the price. I’d say unbeatable value for money even today. Another plus is the battery. Not a small version but the same capacity as Z6/7
Nice entry-level camera, which retails close to the price of the Flagship Panasonic Lumix G9 mk2. There's so much more money you can spend with Full Frame setups, and you get lenses with a real weighty feel. What's not to like?
The only problem is that the autofocus is not in the same league as the new cameras from Nikon. Finally, a small tip, try the new Sony A7CII, because the autofocus improved quite a bit compared to e.g. Sony A7IV and on par with the top models from the competition, if not a little better and at a cheaper price! Thanks for another good video and a like from me 👍
Thanks! The Z5 is an entry level camera so it's fine it doesn't have the same AF as the Z9. I own the a6700 which has the same AF as the A7CII and I have a video about the A7CR which also has the same AF: th-cam.com/video/vcJOcKC7s9Y/w-d-xo.html
Great review, although I have to say the constant twitching of the corners is super irritating. The stabilization of your camera seems to be acting up.
Great review Matti, and always good to watch your videos. I have a Fuji X-T30 with a few lenses and I have been thinking of buying a full frame camera as well (my budget restricts me to used) and I narrowed it down to a Nikon Z5, Panasonic S5 or maybe a Sony A7 111. I just can't get away from my SLR film day nostalgia. Would you have preference out of those 3. Are the Nikon Z5 dislikes you mention very much of a reason to avoid that camera. I use the horizon level too and I wouldn't want that great big visual popping up all the time. I don't do video these days. I'll be keeping my Fuji X-T30 anyway. Thanks for your thoughts if you have time to reply.
I have never tried to choose between those three excellent cameras. I suggest you list the features that are important for you and then see which of those three matches that. In addition to that if possible go and see and feel those cameras at the local camera store. Then pick the one that is the best compromise between the features you like and how it feels in hand.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for replying. I'm leaning more toward the Nikon Z5 and I'm sure I'll be happy with either of the 3 cameras I mentioned, but will try before I buy. Thanks again.
I own the Z5..along with the ZF ( absolute fav) and a couple of D750 and a D810... honestly the Z5 would have been perfect if it had at least 7fps, for predominantly static shots or still subjects, no problem but once you track something with it like a moving toddler or a pet, it becomes unbearably unusable and would only guarantee me below 40 percent in-focus accuracy and the D750 gives me way more keepers most of the time. I think Nikon missed the boat on this one This is the only complaint I have, It is a great video camera and stills for the price, only problem is it doesn't track too well
Entry level full frame camera are now more affordable than ever if you don’t need to shoot fast fps. There are plenty of options from different manufacturers.
Is this an response to my comment in the April Fools video? 🤣 But for real, I dont mind seeing you expanding your horizon and seeing your adventures with this new found abilities.
I used to have Nikon D810 and I also hated that virtual horizon / level gauge. Way too big and distracting. I prefer Olympus version (small bars on horizontal and vertical sides of the screen)
A mirrorles full frame affordable but it must be said that for the price of the body of a used Z5 you can buy a D700 or a D600 and at least three Nikkor prime lenses between manual and AF ones. It's okay that the D700 is heavy but it will always be a classic, not like the Z5.
Nikon d780 is a great option for a professional photographer. Is a great investment and I suggest it because I have and I love this camera so much. You will have great results sure.
Its a good camera. But the only thing I don't like about it no vertical battery grip. As a wedding photographer I like vertical grips. The one thing I don't get why Canon, Nikon, Sony make their grips with a dummy battery that goes into the camera body and two batteries go into the grip. I like how Panasonic and Olympus do it one battery in the body and one battery in the grip. I know you can swap batteries with the Nikon grips but if you push the wrong lever you can pop out the battery and kill the power to the camera. The reason this scares me as a wedding photographer I don't want to pop out a battery then the camera is writing to a card. I like to have as many safety nets as I can.
If Nikon did a Z5 II with the tech they have now, it would be a blast. Sure, after they release the awaited Z6 III first. :) Other than that, as well as the superior in range Z6, the Z5 has the same frustrating points - mainly the autofocus in auto-area, tracking, and similar, which are usable, but not great, as Sony's (even in the a7 III) days are. And the sensor is the older one from the D750, and has a huge crop for 4k. Other than that, the Z5 has great ergonomics, 2 card slots, joystick, and is very cheap if bought used.
I had the Z5 but disliked the grip and the timelag to get shooting. This mirrorless thing is far overrated.Too heavy lenses. So indeed using that 40 mm seems okay but very limiting.
So April 1st video was not a joke ? Good for you to finally see the truth… and you are not convinced and want to laugh see the superb Sony firmware campaign… as you sold of your Sony stuff you will laugh a lot :))).
@@mattisulanto Not all my Lenses was expensive, fx last year I bought a used Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 T* ZA used for US $215 (taxes included). I think that both Canons and Nikons Lenses are more expensive and larger build than Sony Lenses, I buy the best Lenses that I can get, not always the most expensive, fx Voigtländer Lenses I think are worth the money. My recommendation are, do not always buy new Lenses, there are excellent used Lenses you can get cheaper.
while sony 7m3 have screen problemwhich is magenta tint, and sony knows because their shutter problem easy to break, and sony skin tone out of camera is ugly,
The way you were constantly moving your hand with the camera in it while you were speaking is quite annoying. Otherwise it’s a good tutorial video to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Robin Wong “lettttssss doooo thiiss”. I thought he was a Micro 4/3rds fanboy. Viewfinder “not bad”. What the hell do you want? It’s a 100% viewfinder, 3.69million dot, 0.8x magnification. You’re being a little disingenuous given that Sony needed three attempts to get their autofocus working properly on the A7 series and still do not offer anything like the Z5 for the money. Also, the Z5 is a stills oriented camera so of course the video features will be taking a backseat. You are coming across as being a bit annoyed with the Z5. Never noticed this before with your other reviews.
Update: I have fixed the rubber flaps! But I won't test the weather-sealing haha.
Indeed, I agree, well done Nikon! The Z5 deserves a bit more attention!
Thanks for the update😀
Hi Robin, how have you fixed the rubber flaps? I have the same issue in my Nikon Zf after just a few months 😢
@@guentermartinsich9898 I bought third party replacements from Lazada (online selling platform in Malaysia), ripped off the old ones and attach the new ones. The covers for Z5, Z6, Z7, Z6 II and Z7 II are the same, so the replacement rubber covers are plentiful and quite easy to find. Not sure about ZF though, since it is a new camera.
I had the same problem with my Olympus OM5 so it's not unique to the Z5 or Nikon. And I don't even live in a hot and humid climate.
The Z5 is so very underrated. Its better the than the applauded 750; and when introduced most reviewers were saying don't but the Z6 unless into video. Even using as a webcam the resolution beats anything AT EVEN 4K
I have had only Nikon cameras all my life, and now at 72 I enjoy them as much as I have since the first one. I bought a Z5 last year, the first full frame camera I've purchased, and am very pleased. I still have a D7200 that complements the Z5 nicely. I would like for you to do a complete "recommended settings" video for the Z5 if you have time.
Thanks for sharing. I'd have to shoot a bit more on the Z5 to be able to recommend settings but that's a good idea for the future.
You don’t want him doing it. He doesn’t know them. There are good videos out there for Z5 settings
I got this camera specifically because I only shoot stills. With prime 28/2.8, 40/2 and couple other prime lenses (adapted) this is very hard to beat. Absolutely perfect camera.
Thanks. Those two little primes make a perfect street kit.
The Z5 plus the pancake 26mm and the 4/24-70 is a very, very good street setup especially in the second hand market.
Thanks. Sounds like a super nice set up.
Great video! I bought a used Z5 last year and it has been a gem of a camera. Beautiful image files, solid eye autofocus, and great ergonomics for a killer price especially buying used. I love this camera and highly recommend it to anyone looking to jump into mirrorless full frame.
Thanks! Yeah, it really is a gem.
The build quality of the Z 5 is astounding. It's on the same level as the Z 6 and Z 7. Very solid!
I have been using the Z5 with the 50 f/1.8 S and 28 f2.8 for years - it’s a great camera!
You can set the focus to a function button instead of the ok button, btw
Thank you Matti! My first digital camera was a Nikon and I loved it. Now I have a Nikon Z50 and a Sony 7c. I like them compact and light.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Hey Matti you asked me to give some feedback and I'm thinking considering the Z5 is such an affordable full frame, dual card slot, IBIS toting, no skimping on ergonomics all round camera with Z mount, access to all Nikon glass, and almost every other mount under the sun (including e-mount). How can you go wrong. Talking video, you called it 'lame'. It delivers 4K 24,25 and 30p with a 1.7x crop. APSC is 1.5x (Nikon, Sony) and 1.6x in Canon, and you seemed to compare it at times to your a6700 APSC which has a constant 1.5x crop. For a content creator sitting in their studio turning their 28mm lens into a 47.6mm FOV eqv, I shoot almost all of my talking heads at 50mm. So for a content creator it is great. And if you want to vlog on the run you can grab a 16mm (27mm FOV eqv.), 18, or 20mm. For me considering the solid entry level photography spec, and the fact I can still get 4K for any situation, you just need to choose the right lens, and if you need, you can get 60p in 1080p, 2.5x slow mo in 24p timeline.
As for the rubber sealing ... I live in Australia, I still own Nikon cameras from almost 20 years ago, their seals over the ports still work all these years, as they originally did. As was said somewhere, the Z5 camera you are using in this video was purchased 2nd hand by your friend. There is no way of knowing how it has been treated. Also I wonder if more humid environments cause the rubber to act in different ways as I have never experienced this here in Australia, I live in the south, not much humidity here.
The Z5 is four years old, and is a previous generation camera from Nikon Expeed 6. The Expeed 7 Zf, if you had compared, yes more expensive, but an absolutely outstanding full frame camera, with great video spec and stills spec, AF focus up with the Z8 and Z9, an IBIS unit bettered by none, and still very affordable.
I can see today the A7 C II is $2198 vs Zf $1996, perhaps two cameras that are closer together in spec, than Z5 ($1296 full frame) and a6700 ($1398 APSC), which seem hard to compare other than price. Card slots different, sensor size different, ergonomics different, video spec different, generation different .... and so on.
Thanks so much for your feedback my friend.
I did not compare the Z5 to any specific Sony but I mentioned Sony's different approach to focus tracking.
I'm thinking if you buy full frame you'd want full frame video (4k) too and that's my reason to call the video features lame.
My good friend and a long time Nikon shooter in Finland (not hot nor humid) says his Z6 has similar issue with the rubber flaps. There are other reports as well. So I guess it is some kind of a problem but your experience shows it's not a universal problem.
The global pricing is interesting. In Finland the Zf is about 100€ more expensive than the A7CII.
Anyway, as I said in the video, the Z5 is an excellent camera and an excellent value.
@@mattisulanto :) Now worries Matti, perhaps there is more moisture in Finland, rain and snow, than Australia. And as these parts are made of rubber, I could see moisture changing the equation. From myA7R, A7R III D3s, D4 D850, Z6, Z6 II Z7 and more, all their seals are still working as originally intended. So indeed the world is varied, experience is varied and mileage does seem to vary.
As for full frame sensor and not getting the full read out in its highest res. Indeed that is the case. There are other notable cameras that come to mind that have the similar attributes, one for example the A7R V shoots 8K (its highest spec) and at 8K 24p there is a crop of 1.24 X. In both cases what we can see is the camera companies are pushing their cameras as hard as they can. And in both cases the cameras can only read the actual pixels for the video resolution, and there is not sufficient power to use the full frame and interpolated to the given resolution. It's a pretty standard move. The very new A7C II in 4k 50P is 1.5x crop, I would prefer to have 50P with crop than not. So in these cases, the Z5 and A7R V A7C II, personally I am happy that we get 4K and 8K respectively and pushed frame rates, rather than Sony or Nikon saying we cant get full frame, so we won't offer it. Ultimately I see it as an advantage, having the higher spec video with a crop in each case, rather than not getting the higher spec. :)
Z series cameras don't have the same build quality like Nikon DSLRs.
In India,service centres are flooded with swollen rubbers,and adding to the woe,the lcd displays often develop cable problem.
I got my brand new Z5 from Germany last year, for 900€. It was a great purchase which allowed me to spend more on lenses. I still wish for something like Z3 with the same specs just no viewfinder :))
That's a great price!😀
When I just started in photography, Z5 was my cam and it was still a cam that I really missed a lot. The images are just amazing!
Thanks!
That combo is perfect, or near perfect, for street photography. I love it! The Zeee5 😁 $996 USD when on sale in USA -- 40mm less is also low priced.
You mentioned the old days..... Samy, of Samy's Camera has passed away. He will be missed.
Oh, sad to hear that. I used to go to Samy's Camera often when I lived in Pasadena loooong time ago.
I may be two months late but I have been rocking the Z5 for a few months now and I mapped the AF on one of the buttons on the front, when I click it, I could scroll the back dial to whether I want AF-s or AF-C and then the front dial for each options for each AF mode. It definitely improves my workflow!
Thanks for the tip.
I just bought a z5 after using a d600 for the last 10 years, original plan was to use all my old glass on the ftz adapter, found them a bit noisey without a stepper motor. So decided to pick up the viltrox 20mm 2.8 and it really makes a difference, turning the camera into an everyday carry.
The Viltrox 20mm is an amazing value.
I bought this camera used about a year ago. The AF options took me a while to get used to (my previous camera was Nikon d5100). The articulating screen was a disappointment as the 5100 had a much better articulating mechanism. My final gripe is the remote. Using a wireless remote on the 5100 worked well. On the Z5 you must use the app which has frequent hiccups. The bluetooth remote while technically works is totally unusable in practice. Overall I love the Z5, especially the image quality! I’m still experimenting with lenses to see which tradeoffs I’m willling to live with (too heavy vs high variable aperture vs prime, etc). I started with 24-200 with 50mm prime. Right now I have 28-400 for outdoors and travel and 24-70 2.8 for indoors plus outdoor portraits. Both are very heavy. I’m thinking of going to 24-70 4 and 50mm (while keeping the 28-400). It seems silly to have 3 lenses that all cover 50mm, but that lens is sooo good.
The value I get from this camera is amazing, I got mine new for less than 900 USD.
Awesome overview, Matti. Great to see you following the sunshine!
I'll try my best😀 Thanks mate!
Pakko kommentoida suomeksi…kun englanti taipuu niin huonosti.
Sivulle kääntyvä takanäyttö on valokuvaamisessa hyvä, suorastaan loistava ja välttämätön🙂
Akkukahvalla pystykuvia otettaessa vaakatasoon käännetty näyttö mahdollistaa pystykuvan ottamisen vaikka maanrajasta. Ja todella hyvän kuvausotteen (akkukahvalla) lisäksi, muutenkin niin kuin kuiluetsimellä kuvaisi pystykuvia.
Kiitos hyvästä ja mielenkiintoisesta kanavasta.
Kiitos. Jokaisella on oma tapa kuvata ja omat mieltymykset. Siksi on hyvä, että on vaihtoehtoja.
@@mattisulanto
Mulla oli kuukauden verran Olympus OM-D EM 1 ja kyllä senkin näyttö monessa paikassa oli kätevä, ei käy kieltäminen.
Matti, they also make a really sharp 50mm lens for Z mount in the Nikkor lens line. A real value lens, which goes on sale now and then. I am shooting the Nikon and Lumix, with occasional Olympus, more and more, as the Canon RP sits on the shelf. The Nikon Z5 simply outshines the RP, though that camera was once a fair deal. The dynamic range and so much more just places the Canon down a notch or two.
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, if I have the chance I'll definitely try out more Nikon lenses in the future.
I want one just for my vintage Nikkor lenses. Love the Nik!
Of course. Thanks for sharing.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this yet but you can assign a function on a function button in front of the camera to quickly turn off face detection. I use it all the time.
It was mentioned and I use it all the time😀
For the z5 video I was worried about not having 10bit nlog, but so far it works well with davinci resolve combined with filmconvert nitrate, I can get the film look.
Thanks. Good to hear it works for you.
You have to set tracking to a function button. With that you can track object and override eye af. You can also switch tracking on and off very easily. It’s quite quick operation that way
Thanks for the tip. Do you still have to press the button before you can track?
I have similar situation with Nikon, I want to start using Nikon regularly but I was absolutely disappointed with the rubber flaps on my Z6II
I love my Nikon Z5 and for what I shoot I don't feel the need (at this time) to get a Z*II or Z*III. I have two Z lenses, the Nikon 24-120mm f4 S and the Viltrox 16mm f1.8. I also have my af-s Nikkor 50mm f1.8 and af-s 80-400mm that I use with ZTF adapter.
Hi Matti, i agree with you that it is unique to have two card slots on an entry level camera. I do like Nikon's 40mm lenses as i have a 40mm F/2 8 lens and the colours really do pop. I would say my 40mm F/2.8 is sharper than my 35mm F/1.8, except for Bokeh where my 35mm wins in that department. Thanks for this video as i have a soft spot for Nikon. 😊
Thanks for sharing your Nikon experience.
@@mattisulanto Your welcome Matti, thank you
Matti, I always enjoy your channel as well as Robin's. I have mostly M43 cameras, a few various APSc, and a Z5 to compliment my D750.
Thanks!
I am waiting for the Panasonic version of the Leica SL3. I love bird and wildlife photography. I would like an updated Ricoh Gr4 with Flip screen
Hi Matti - nice overview. That said, you should keep in mind that when you compare the tracking of the Z5 to the A7 IV you are literally comparing a generation 1 camera to a generation 4 camera from Sony.
Have you tried any of the Nikons with the Expeed 7 processor like the Zf or Z8/9 (Z5 is using Expeed 6)? If so, you would find that these cameras auto focus and tracking are on par and in some ways superior now to modern Sonys.
As you pointed out, the Z5 is now 4 years old - it is expected to be refreshed soon and when it is it will have the new Expeed 7 and all the benefits that come with that processor. Nothing on the market will come close to that camera for under $2000 USD and my guess it the Z5 will not exceed $1500.
You mention how good the 40mm f/2 is for its price point and you are correct. Have you tried other Z lenses or any from the S line (pro line)? The Z lenses are class leading across the board. Nikon now has the best set of 1.8 primes for any system and their 1.2's are exceptional and ground breaking. The Z mount, which is physically superior to all other mounts due to its 55mm throat diameter and 16mm flange - allowing for optical designs that simply are not possible on other mounts - especially the Sony E mount that is a jury rigged APS-C mount with a mere 48mm throat diameter. As such, Nikon is now able to make superior optics for the Z mount that cannot be matched and we have seen this for the last 2 years - Nikon boasting the best telephotos in the business now and their standard primes (as mentioned above) are class leading.
Furthermore, due to the dimensions of the Z mount it is possible to adapt lenses from other systems to Z camera - this is NOT true in reverse. For example. with the newest Megadap Pro adaptor we can now adapt all Sony E mount lenses to the Z system with near native and in many cases native functionality - meaning that any Sony lens is now a Z mount lens. The same is true for Fuji X mount, Canon EF mount, and Leica M mount. It is just a matter of time until there is an RF to Z.mount converter - especially now that Nikon has bought RED which uses the RF mount.
Speaking of RED and video - you mention that the Z5 is not a great video camera and you are most correct - that was not really part of its design parameters, but the Z8/9 are literally the best hybrid full frame video cameras on the market and have been now since the inception of the Z9 at the end of 2021. There is no Sony hybrid camera that can do what the Z8/9 can do.
And - all of this is prior to Nikon incorporating any of its newfound cutting edge video technology that they now have access to due to their acquisition of RED.
If there were ever a reason to come back to Nikon (I never left and have been shooting Nikon since 1986), its now. There is nothing that your A7 IV can do that the upcoming Z6III (to be releases in the next couple months) will not do better for the same price or less, and you will have access to the superior Z lenses and most importantly superior Z mount. As far as your Sony glass goes, just get the Megadap adaptor which is not expensive (something like $250) and then you can adapt all your Sony lenses to your new Nikon with full functionality - also this adds only 2mm of length and almost no weight to the set up. The Z6III is expected to be a monster video camera as well as being as top notch stills camera - it is expected to shoot up to 6k 60 with no crop and with internal 12 bit RAW capability.
Your issues with the menu and switching between modes and subject detection have been fully addressed in more recent Nikon cameras and will be fully addressed in the Z6III as well so no need to worry about any of that.
Its a great time to be a Nikon shooter - do yourself a favor and come on back. As noted, your cost to switch is minimal as you can still use all your Sony lenses for the small fee of the Megadap adaptor, but you will find that you will not use many of them in short order as you start to pick up Z lenses and phase out the Sony ones. The Z lenses (more often than not) are just better - seriously, go see for yourself - you will not be sorry.
-PD
Thanks for your extensive comment.
The rumored Z6III would of course be an awesome camera but also newer than the A7IV and therefore any comparison would be unfair😀
I'd love to own every camera system from Canon to Panasonic and everything in between. However that is not possible because I can't afford all that😀
Unfortunately I can't become 100% Nikon shooter for mainly two reasons.
1. There is no Nikon representative in my home country. As a TH-camr I want to have a direct contact to my camera brand and I want to be able to borrow gear if necessary for testing.
2. As a TH-camr I want to able to test and try out third party lenses. Right now the support for Sony is still way better than Nikon support. That may change in the future but not any time soon.
@@mattisulanto Understood - those are some good reasons. Its too bad, maybe Nikon will step up their support game along with how much they have stepped up the products.
As far as the Z6III being newer than the A7IV that is correct and a reasonable assertion. I suspect that the Z6III will easily compete with a newer A7V in the future however as Nikon has built in to their cameras longevity through a firmware update program that is second to none. I think we will see Nikon cameras out pacing the others more and more in the next few years, but we will have to see.
In any event, I understand your reasons, but again you could stay with Sony and simply buy one Nikon body and the Megadap and then just use your Sony glass (for now) - at least this way you would have the benefit and fun of shooting the Nikon which we both know the Sony's just don't provide. Sony's are good functional tools but relatively soulless to use - any old school photographer (like yourself) knows this - in some ways this is the reason for the success of products like the Zf.
Anyway, thanks for the video - all the best! :)
-PD
And thanks for this video, it's really great so see you using Z5 and the 40mm f2. I totally agree on that horizon level absurdity :)
Thanks for watching!
Hi Matti, I think even Nikon recommends programming fn1 to tracking activation. No idea why they preprogrammed it to be the ok button... But that's the solution!
Thanks! I have to try that.
Almost bought one! Found a Lumix S5 at a lower price and went with that instead, mainly for better video and access to the Sigma Contemporary lenses. Gotta admit I'm a little jealous of the Nikon 40mm f/2 prime though, it looks like a great walkaround lens.
Thanks. The S5 is another under appreciated camera indeed.
The Z5 is a great option to jump into for full frame . You should try out the Nikon ZF.
Thanks. I'd be happy to try out the Zf if I didn't have to buy it😀
I had a Z5 for a short time and couldn't get on with it for a number of reasons. One of the main ones was the level indicator which looks as if it has been borrowed from a flight simulator.
I think Olympus are the best at this because they have both horizontal and vertical, and they are at the bottom and side so don't obscure the central area.
i prefer the flight sim style more. edit: i have a gh5ii and canon r7 that have similar looking level indicators.
@@ProbablyAnAmateur I think there should be a more minimalist option for those who find it intrusive. It could be done easily with a firmware update.
i like the equipment you film the video
I have this camera for some 4 years. It's fantastic. Although it is an entry level camera, I think it is good enough even for professional uses.
What is the quality of the viewfinder when shooting in low light or stars at night?
The EVF of Z5 is the same with Zf, which is good enough in low light.
Excellent video 😊!
Thank you very much!
Can’t you put the face detection selector in your fav menu? Or maybe even on an aux button? 🧐
La Z5 es la mejor full frame sin espejo por la ecuación precio-prestaciones y rendimiento. Y con los lentes S de esta nueva montura se potencia muchísimo. Por ejemplo, el z50 mm f1.8 es fabuloso. Pero ese 40mm para foto callejera es increíble, gran combinación!!!!!
The target level I like more than the Canon RP level, but when shooting street, I do not use a level. For landscapes, it should work well.
Almost all other cameras have better and more discreet level gauge😀
Nikon s line lens is very good lens but it is a little bit heavy so I only choose 24-70/4 and 50/1.8. Because it is economical especially in second hand. This two lens can make you feel Nikon camera can take very good quality photos.
Very nice job covering this camera.
Thanks.
The z5 is the closest to the a7iii. But I think the z5 still is better in price specially for a beginner.
I own this camera it the 24-50 kit lens and it’s An amazing camera for the money and the quality of the camera is very good as well and I like the creative profiles very similar to Fuji cameras.
Thanks for sharing.
Good review, what AF do you use for street.
Thanks. I don't have any one setting that I use.
Great camera for the price. I’d say unbeatable value for money even today. Another plus is the battery. Not a small version but the same capacity as Z6/7
Yes, the battery life is very good.
Nice entry-level camera, which retails close to the price of the Flagship Panasonic Lumix G9 mk2.
There's so much more money you can spend with Full Frame setups, and you get lenses with a real weighty feel.
What's not to like?
I thought the Z5 is cheaper than the G9II. I guess it depends where you live.
The only problem is that the autofocus is not in the same league as the new cameras from Nikon.
Finally, a small tip, try the new Sony A7CII, because the autofocus improved quite a bit compared to e.g. Sony A7IV and on par with the top models from the competition, if not a little better and at a cheaper price!
Thanks for another good video and a like from me 👍
Thanks! The Z5 is an entry level camera so it's fine it doesn't have the same AF as the Z9. I own the a6700 which has the same AF as the A7CII and I have a video about the A7CR which also has the same AF: th-cam.com/video/vcJOcKC7s9Y/w-d-xo.html
Great review, although I have to say the constant twitching of the corners is super irritating. The stabilization of your camera seems to be acting up.
Thanks for the feedback.
Great review Matti, and always good to watch your videos. I have a Fuji X-T30 with a few lenses and I have been thinking of buying a full frame camera as well (my budget restricts me to used) and I narrowed it down to a Nikon Z5, Panasonic S5 or maybe a Sony A7 111. I just can't get away from my SLR film day nostalgia. Would you have preference out of those 3. Are the Nikon Z5 dislikes you mention very much of a reason to avoid that camera. I use the horizon level too and I wouldn't want that great big visual popping up all the time. I don't do video these days. I'll be keeping my Fuji X-T30 anyway. Thanks for your thoughts if you have time to reply.
I have never tried to choose between those three excellent cameras. I suggest you list the features that are important for you and then see which of those three matches that. In addition to that if possible go and see and feel those cameras at the local camera store. Then pick the one that is the best compromise between the features you like and how it feels in hand.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for replying. I'm leaning more toward the Nikon Z5 and I'm sure I'll be happy with either of the 3 cameras I mentioned, but will try before I buy. Thanks again.
I own the Z5..along with the ZF ( absolute fav) and a couple of D750 and a D810... honestly the Z5 would have been perfect if it had at least 7fps, for predominantly static shots or still subjects, no problem but once you track something with it like a moving toddler or a pet, it becomes unbearably unusable and would only guarantee me below 40 percent in-focus accuracy and the D750 gives me way more keepers most of the time. I think Nikon missed the boat on this one
This is the only complaint I have, It is a great video camera and stills for the price, only problem is it doesn't track too well
Thanks for sharing.
Entry level full frame camera are now more affordable than ever if you don’t need to shoot fast fps. There are plenty of options from different manufacturers.
That's true, many excellent options.
Is this an response to my comment in the April Fools video? 🤣
But for real, I dont mind seeing you expanding your horizon and seeing your adventures with this new found abilities.
Thanks! It's really nice to try out cameras and lenses, no matter what brand they are.
I used to have Nikon D810 and I also hated that virtual horizon / level gauge. Way too big and distracting. I prefer Olympus version (small bars on horizontal and vertical sides of the screen)
Thanks. There are so many discreet ways to design a level gauge.
A mirrorles full frame affordable but it must be said that for the price of the body of a used Z5 you can buy a D700 or a D600 and at least three Nikkor prime lenses between manual and AF ones.
It's okay that the D700 is heavy but it will always be a classic, not like the Z5.
I've got a suspicion - you will keep it!
Not mine to keep but who knows, maybe I'll buy one for myself too😀
It's not mine to keep but maybe I'll buy one for myself too😀
@@mattisulanto exactly!
Considering z6 for weddings
so it was true Robin shoots all his pro stuff on a FF Nikon...
Watch this: th-cam.com/users/liveBSBi47zcVBg?si=cGc7UFTGK5fNjbxQ
I would buy a Nikon D780 - amazing camera - than a Z5.. Anyway, I'm still curious about this body. Cheers! D.
Nikon d780 is a great option for a professional photographer. Is a great investment and I suggest it because I have and I love this camera so much. You will have great results sure.
@@teoteos7979 What sets it apart from other full frame Nikons ?
Please review Nikon zf.
I'd be more than happy to do that if someone lends me the Zf.
Did the Z5 have the most recent firmware update? You presented some very nice images.
Thank you. The camera had the latest FW.
Its a good camera. But the only thing I don't like about it no vertical battery grip. As a wedding photographer I like vertical grips.
The one thing I don't get why Canon, Nikon, Sony make their grips with a dummy battery that goes into the camera body and two batteries go into the grip. I like how Panasonic and Olympus do it one battery in the body and one battery in the grip.
I know you can swap batteries with the Nikon grips but if you push the wrong lever you can pop out the battery and kill the power to the camera. The reason this scares me as a wedding photographer I don't want to pop out a battery then the camera is writing to a card. I like to have as many safety nets as I can.
It's really good there are options for everyone and we all are not forced to use the same camera brand😀
If Nikon did a Z5 II with the tech they have now, it would be a blast. Sure, after they release the awaited Z6 III first. :)
Other than that, as well as the superior in range Z6, the Z5 has the same frustrating points - mainly the autofocus in auto-area, tracking, and similar, which are usable, but not great, as Sony's (even in the a7 III) days are. And the sensor is the older one from the D750, and has a huge crop for 4k.
Other than that, the Z5 has great ergonomics, 2 card slots, joystick, and is very cheap if bought used.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
I had the Z5 but disliked the grip and the timelag to get shooting. This mirrorless thing is far overrated.Too heavy lenses. So indeed using that 40 mm seems okay but very limiting.
Thanks for sharing. Fortunately there are other options for you to choose.
What kind of camera and lens set up do you prefer ? Any favourite camera ?
So April 1st video was not a joke ? Good for you to finally see the truth… and you are not convinced and want to laugh see the superb Sony firmware campaign… as you sold of your Sony stuff you will laugh a lot :))).
I never joke about cameras😀
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The Nikon Z5 looks like having a low price for a full frame camera as long as you do not buy expensive Nikon Lenses !
More great value third party options coming up all the time for Nikon. Any system gets expensive if you buy expensive lenses😀
@@mattisulanto Not all my Lenses was expensive, fx last year I bought a used Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 T* ZA used for US $215 (taxes included). I think that both Canons and Nikons Lenses are more expensive and larger build than Sony Lenses, I buy the best Lenses that I can get, not always the most expensive, fx Voigtländer Lenses I think are worth the money. My recommendation are, do not always buy new Lenses, there are excellent used Lenses you can get cheaper.
@@mattisulanto do you have any favourites prime lenses from third party?
They are no more expensive than the options from Sony or Canon.
My first thought too!
Comparing F mount to Z mount Nikon lenses....there is a huge difference in price now
autofocusing performance in low light is horrible.totally waste of money.I used this bad toy camera for 01 year and bought a sony A7M3.
Sorry to hear your experience. However, I haven't had serious low light focusing problems.
@@mattisulanto try to track a subject in low light.
while sony 7m3 have screen problemwhich is magenta tint, and sony knows because their shutter problem easy to break, and sony skin tone out of camera is ugly,
@@fangli What camera/ cameras do you suggest ?
@@sauravbasu8805 depend on what purpose , canon, nikon its nices, if you want sony, a7iv and above its good doest have problem like a7iii and below
The way you were constantly moving your hand with the camera in it while you were speaking is quite annoying. Otherwise it’s a good tutorial video to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching.
Robin Wong “lettttssss doooo thiiss”. I thought he was a Micro 4/3rds fanboy.
Viewfinder “not bad”. What the hell do you want? It’s a 100% viewfinder, 3.69million dot, 0.8x magnification. You’re being a little disingenuous given that Sony needed three attempts to get their autofocus working properly on the A7 series and still do not offer anything like the Z5 for the money. Also, the Z5 is a stills oriented camera so of course the video features will be taking a backseat. You are coming across as being a bit annoyed with the Z5. Never noticed this before with your other reviews.
He did say he liked the viewfinder. I love them, so sharp.
I said I like the VF. I said I like the camera. What more do you want?