Cool - more complex than I expected - interesting getting gear position signals from the shifter and not the transmission, like other designs - probably a more hospitable envt for electronics
What is the voltage of the connector pins of the electronic board that sends the manual mode and "+" and "-" signal of the shifter to the main gearbox control board? Does anyone have a control board diagram?
Always good to share the white atmospheric deposits with my neighbor to the north. If that unit needs to be dropped down rather than pulled up does that include removing the transmission in any way? Kinda risky having electronics close to cup holders for a klutz like me. Looks rather inexpensive, right. As always, exceptional video on yet another brain in an automobile.
@@speedkar99 Sure, but you need 3 inputs, there are only 2, what decision you make if one says Drive and other Neutral? If you implement proper HA, you need 3 to allow disambiguation with 2 that say the same thing and the 3rd "something else". Then you know the "something else" is wrong.
Nothing. This transmission is electronically controlled and would have logic to block that. Even if it was manually controlled, the engine would just stall.
Amazingly complex, with many little parts to assemble ! You didn't point out the little coocoo bird and chime though. Since it is so easy to fix and remove, service should be a breeze, even without that nifty rotary, any head style, any size screw removing tool you have there. Farfegnugen !
Why does it even have a mechanical link? The transmission is electronically controlled anyways Also, and totally unrelated, why do automatics have a "park" function? Why not just a normal hand brake (that at least _some_ automatic cars have too)?
Fortunately or unfortunately, this complex mechanism is not designed by Computer Engineers, or a fancy Glass Cockpit will be created with an AI wizard behind the scene doing the magic adjustment (in the name of fine tuning to please the customer) on occasion.
gonna release this plastic here 🤣, my mom had a car with a automic transmission, the transmission was worth more than the whole car... get a automatic, if it breaks you can scrap the whole car, manual is better
What is the voltage of the connector pins of the electronic board that sends the manual mode and "+" and "-" signal of the shifter to the main gearbox control board? Does anyone have a control board diagram?
I love how you deal with all of the random fasteners!
Zip! Love my angle grinders
Ah, yes, the universal screw head and size feature is the best!
Fantastic as usual
Thanks!!
I'm very confused, not sure what to look at. Please show important things with a toothbrush!
Ha ha ha from Waterloo Ont.
Will do for future videos
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Cool - more complex than I expected - interesting getting gear position signals from the shifter and not the transmission, like other designs - probably a more hospitable envt for electronics
I think most cars have the sensor on both the cable and transmission...
And that’s one of the reasons why I drive a manual. I could never fix this contraption in the video🤯
Hey I should take apart a manual shifter to show the difference. Good idea
That’s like a 2 minute video, or?🤔
Great video thanks for sharing
Welcome
Excellent video! Can it possibly be anymore complicated?
Right? Thought same, designed-to-fail💰💰
Remember when we drove 'three on the tree'? Easy-peezy 👌🏽
Yes! Alot of shifters are just as complex!
Who said modern cars are too complex?????? A believer in the KISS principal !!! . lol
Same here
What is the voltage of the connector pins of the electronic board that sends the manual mode and "+" and "-" signal of the shifter to the main gearbox control board? Does anyone have a control board diagram?
You'd have to check the service manual
thank u, as always great work!!!
such a genious
this channel must be a secretly sponsored by Makita
I use Miluakee
That was very insightful, thank you. I have this exact system though not in VW Jetta.
What car do you have?
@@speedkar99 Audi A4, 2008.
What would happen if you were driving and your shifter went to reverse would it destroy the transmission?
There should be prevention by speedometer, but please, can you prove this theory?
If you actually get it to engage ya it could, or lock up tires and you crash. Hard to do on late models they wont let it happen.
I believe that is called "the money shot"
It probably will in older cars but don't modern cars (anything in the past decade) have lockouts for that?
@@johnw3379 * shift.
Complexity is the enemy of reliability.
Yes
Makes me wonder how any of us survived the era of manual transmissions!
Haha
8:35 MacGyver could have that mess fixed with some fishing line in under a minute
That would be cool
❤Thank you very much
You're welcome 😊
Thank you.
Welcome
Always good to share the white atmospheric deposits with my neighbor to the north. If that unit needs to be dropped down rather than pulled up does that include removing the transmission in any way? Kinda risky having electronics close to cup holders for a klutz like me. Looks rather inexpensive, right. As always, exceptional video on yet another brain in an automobile.
Actually yes it gets removed from.below. That entails removing the exhaust and heat shield. That's crazy!!
What's that white stuff on the table?
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Vancouver
In Toronto we have snow. 🙂
In Vancouver you've got rain.
dude you awesome
Thanks
A million things can go wrong.
Yeah and this is only the shifter... imagine the rest of the car
Like the handbrake, odometer. Yeah. @@speedkar99
Odd there are both a position cable going to the transmission and another position sensor in the shifter, seems redundant to me.
Redundancy is the key to reliability
@@speedkar99 Sure, but you need 3 inputs, there are only 2, what decision you make if one says Drive and other Neutral?
If you implement proper HA, you need 3 to allow disambiguation with 2 that say the same thing and the 3rd "something else". Then you know the "something else" is wrong.
So what would happen if I shift to P or R with car moving at 60 kph (Canadian heyy)?
Nothing. This transmission is electronically controlled and would have logic to block that. Even if it was manually controlled, the engine would just stall.
Notification Squad!🔥🔥🔥
Thanks
use a unibit the rivets (in a drill)
Grinder faster
@@speedkar99 I guess it doesn't matter when its all trash.
Where the 3rd Gen Lexus GS350 from the thumbnail?
It's my GS350. Ive had a few videos on it over the years, it's been a really good car.
Amazingly complex, with many little parts to assemble ! You didn't point out the little coocoo bird and chime though. Since it is so easy to fix and remove, service should be a breeze, even without that nifty rotary, any head style, any size screw removing tool you have there. Farfegnugen !
Love my grinders!
This looks like a jigsaw puzzle.The electronic shifters are far less complex with lesser number of parts. And probably easier to troubleshoot too.
It sure is mechanically simpler but I'm not sure about that troubleshooting part...
Why does it even have a mechanical link? The transmission is electronically controlled anyways
Also, and totally unrelated, why do automatics have a "park" function? Why not just a normal hand brake (that at least _some_ automatic cars have too)?
There are parts in the valve body that are controlled by the bimanual valve. See my DSG teardown video
Fortunately or unfortunately, this complex mechanism is not designed by Computer Engineers, or a fancy Glass Cockpit will be created with an AI wizard behind the scene doing the magic adjustment (in the name of fine tuning to please the customer) on occasion.
Mechanical engineering 💪💪
Explains why cars are so expensive
Big time. Imagine a team dedicated to making a shifter
Cold enough to snap my brother's toothbrush.
It sure was cold!
OMG...
All this complicated stuff to replace common sense.
I am so happy to have a manual 5-speed transmission in my car.
You sure are lucky of the last bunch
Sir .....
Would you please ADD A BLOWTORCH AND A CHAINSAW TO
YOUR DISASSEMBLY REPATOIR ...........
Thank you for your VIDEOS..........
That would be entertaining. I love my grinder though
Wow, I hate them even more now. I miss my manual e30 and e46 more every day...
Indeed a very complex design
Can u do a Vezel review plz
That thing is more complicated than the engine itself! I bet the cost of that is $80 or $90 LOL.🤣🤣🤣 Wops I mean $800 or $900.
Yeah it looks expensive
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No Tesla’s so far?)
No
The use of a circuit board for position sensing makes the whole thing much too complex and too quickly failed😮
It sure is complex!
Vws....
Avoid...
So much plastic parts. Good for the spares department bad for your wallet.
Yes it doesn't need to be metal though
So overly complicated.
Surprisingly alot of shifters are just as complex
Easy one, buy a manual.
Over-engineered junk.
Surprisingly alot of shifters are this complex!
gonna release this plastic here 🤣, my mom had a car with a automic transmission, the transmission was worth more than the whole car... get a automatic, if it breaks you can scrap the whole car, manual is better
True
What is the voltage of the connector pins of the electronic board that sends the manual mode and "+" and "-" signal of the shifter to the main gearbox control board? Does anyone have a control board diagram?