The drop off was a bit iffy but overall very impressive IMO. Waymo handled pedestrians, cyclists and some tight situations very well. In terms of autonomous driving capability and reliability, Waymo is far ahead of everybody.
@@pennytrui1149 - Tesla’s not in the same ballpark, but at this point their focus isn’t robotaxis. Their direct competition is Mobileye, Baidu, and (was?) Cruise. Tesla has a fairly competent ADAS (driver assist), but it’s far from perfect. It should be said here that I don’t own a Tesla, and won’t own any EV for a while, yet. My personal belief is that in the US and Asia (including to a lesser extent the ASEAN market), there is a huge potential for robotaxis, and in the US it appears that Alphabet has a huge advantage.
@@thewatcher5822 - I hope you’re right, but I’m just not seeing it. With FSD, it’s a swing and a miss, over and over, while Waymo is making steady progress. Also, public interest in self-driving seems to be waning, and I feel that Musk himself is becoming discouraged with it as well.
Awesome Waymo video guys. I do prefer when riders can shoot video from the back seat and keep the Waymo display in the video throughout the drive (so, yeah, that was mostly missing in this video), but you guys captured very challenging driving here near Venice Beach, so that aspect was awesome. I also loved your dialog. Most Waymo vloggers don't have a friend along, or their friend/family have little to say, especially about the driving. You guys had LOTS of interesting things to say about the driving, surrounding vehicles, and people (mostly pedestrians). Sure, other Waymo reviewers talk to the audience, but that isn't as good as what you guys achieved here. Together, that stuff made this video the best one I've watched on Waymo driving, and I've seen a lot of Waymo TH-cam videos lately. Great job! Please do more Waymo videos similar to this one or including other challenging driving areas or other times, maybe in the evening, on Friday or Saturday nights, that could be very tough because of traffic. In my opinion, the best part of this video is at 12:20, near what you called the "weird left turn". I couldn't tell if that was remote re-routing related to your support call or if the Waymo computer did local re-routing, based on a lack of progress on that "weird left turn", to change it to an easier right turn. I've only seen the latter in Waymo videos, so I'd guess it was that.
I’m a retired city bus driver of 30 years and that Google taxi is absolutely an amazing driver. I don’t think I could of driven any better, other than perhaps cutting the speed while travelling through intersections by 2 to 3 mph, but it’s robotic so it’s reaction time is probably faster than a humans. lol wrote the review before the remote driver took over haha , but still pretty freakin good, but remote driver should be faster
The person in the car is mistaken. Waymo does not use remote drivers. Waymo uses remote assistance that provides guidance but they never remote control the cars. The car is in full autonomous mode the whole time.
@@dusty4047 I don't think it was. See my longer comment and time link in that comment. My guess was that it was a local (meaning, in the car) re-route perform by the Waymo computer, based on a lack of progress in completing that "weird left turn". I think it was only a coincidence that the support call was in progress at that time. In short, the human riders interacting with human support had nothing to do with it. At least, that's the way it looked to me. Note that Waymos always display "Working to get you going" or staff says about the same thing during the support calls, but the only actions I've seen Waymo support do remotely is disable a Waymo car or send in a human driver. My guess is that, presently, they don't have the ability to override the routing remotely, and, of course, they can't drive the car remotely.
While technologically impressive, I can't get excited about it. The money this robot will make will be taking food from the table of hard-working humans. Big corporations strike again.
Man I'm sweating just watching this... 😅😅 Though yeah impressive that no road-rage was caused by the robot's driving choices and by the choices of other drivers...
Very cool that this car shows us what "Full Self Driving" really means. Waymo is better than Cruise, but both are getting better. The interesting thing will be to see how much customer demand there is for this kind of service. I have taken a cab or Uber where I asked the driver to make sure I got there ASAP, "Step on it." Sometimes I reserve a town car to get me comfortably and securely from an airport to a big city downtown location. Given the cost of the hardware and support structure, are robotaxis even financially viable?
@@cybertrk Just that there's nobody in the front seat makes it FAR more capable than a Tesla. Pretty easy to find videos of the latest FSD beta software having disengagements and basic safety issues. Musk's livestream with the new end-to-end software had the car trying to go through a red light.
It did pretty well. I wonder how much of a lead Tesla really has with fsd. Waymo is now limited to cities that have been thoroughly mapped into its system, but it doesn’t seem like a huge stretch to get it to where fsd currently is.
Tesla has no lead. They never did. Tesla is only level 2. Waymo is safer, reliable and more polished than FSD and it is fully driverless. Tesla FSD requires human supervision. Also, Waymo is geofenced by choice, not design. Waymo could do driverless everywhere now if they wanted to but that is not their business model.
@@TheDiplomat27Waymo must operate in mapped areas, which means geofenced by definition. The mapping isn't fully automated and it seems they need to drive there for a while to find pain points to avoid. Tesla is no different in this, but they have vehicles everywhere collecting data, globally, so it's assumed they're building the same kind of maps that Waymo is building -- but in the background with a worldwide fleet. Don't even need to be using FSD beta to be collecting data for Tesla. Doesn't mean that Waymo can't move into whatever area they want, map, and deploy. It seems Tesla has an upper-hand here, but Waymo will get better and faster at this. But that doesn't mean Tesla is ahead or will pull ahead. They're trying to solve computer vision to avoid LIDAR which is difficult to the point most believe it will never happen (and not like Waymo can't experiment here -- they have cameras too). They can't deploy hardware upgrades with nearly the same ease as Waymo. They're not even attempting to build a rideshare service, the most they've said is that Tesla owners will put their cars into some eventual service to make money which seems like something nobody would do. And it's pretty clear that nobody's figured out how to fully remove the human. Remote assistance is still required in spots, so it's more like the grocery self-checkout at this stage than driverless. I can't see Tesla overcoming that. All true self-driving will look like Waymo does right now for the foreseeable future.
@@TheDiplomat27 Tesla has some huge advantages, and as I have said in an earlier comment are set to dominate in this space. Tesla are trying to solve a much bigger problem, but have been making some huge strides, especially with V12. By the end of this year I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tesla operating autonomously somewhere in America. Tesla have also gained preliminary permission ( not quite there) to start operating FSD in Europe. Anyone watching this, as impressive as it may seem, and dismissing Tesla, have no idea what Tesla are doing.
@@scott-mercer Initially, yes, but now, after learning from the protesters, I believe they stand in front of the Waymo until another officer can come and cone it. The police are supposed to be calling a Waymo support phone number, if no one is in the car or asking the riders to contact Waymo support, if the Waymo has riders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they started to carry cones in their police cars, just to deal with problematic Waymos.
1:10 what kind of intersection is that? no lights, no stop signs. Just whatever, figure it out? Strange that after all these years Waymo still gets stuck in simple situations.
As of now, it’s only available in a section of LA within Santa Monica and Downtown LA. No service to the Valley, East LA, and LB yet. It’ll be a while before Waymo gets this right.
The design is wrong if it's a driverless car it should have all the room only for me I don't want any other seats and steering columns anything that remotely resembles a drivable car to set in the fear.
I will just be in the passenger seat.... feet on dashboard. Waving....how are yoooouuuuu?😂 maybe with a cocktail...non alcoholic so we don't get pulled over
I've heard cyclists tout that self-driving cars will make the roads safer for them (hitting a cyclist is pretty much always human error)... but at 2:05 the car very clearly pulls into the bike lane to get "out of the way of traffic", meaning a cyclist would have to swerve into traffic to get around them, which is way more dangerous than if the car just stayed in the car lane like it's supposed to. It seems to be programmed to do that... which is pretty disappointing.
California Vehicle Code 21209 states: (a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle in a bicycle lane established on a roadway pursuant to Section 21207 except as follows: (1) To park where parking is permitted. (2) To enter or leave the roadway. (3) To prepare for a turn within a distance of 200 feet from the intersection. So it's certainly legal. Bikes don't have to "go around" a car doing this, they can wait.
@@agildehaus Yes, I didn't say it was illegal. These laws reflect an extremely dated way of thinking, and they too are contributing significantly to cyclist and scooter deaths. It's very easy for a car to stop, wait for another car, and start again. On a bicycle, it's tiring to stop and start, and so the cyclist may make a split second decision to veer out into traffic, resulting in a deadly accident. I'd imagine these cars will at least check the bike lane and signal before pulling over, which is great and will result in fewer deaths than the insane way almost every human driver does it. But this is still a clear example of Waymo programming their vehicles to do something which, at scale, will inevitably kill people. If saying it's legal helps them sleep at night, then sure :)
@@alexmontague5514 You're describing an action taken by the bicyclist, not any car, that puts the bicyclist in danger. Stop making "split second" decisions known to be dangerous to avoid a little fatigue. Also, there were no bicyclists behind this Waymo, it may very well be programmed to not do this when there are.
@@agildehaus I think your first paragraph misses the point entirely. It's easy to blame the dead person for their death. Or... we can acknowledge that this is killing people. I think your second paragraph is insightful though -- it's definitely possible they do check first. I'd guess that they don't, but perhaps I shouldn't assume... still, better safe than sorry.
Is this a Waymo ad? They are making people loose way 'mo jobs. I dont dupport this at all. I support the 100s of taxi and other drivers supporting their families with a good honest job. Waymo just makes one man, Way ' mo ' rich. Waymo doesnt feed hingry children just one company. Bad!!!
Well so we would still have the phone line switching operators acvording to you. We nred much more progress in all tech. You are just bad for humanity with your thinking. Go back to the stone age or to the Woods.
It happened to checkouts in supermarkets, it happened to car manufacturing and now it's happening to taxis. I'm all for it, cheaper rides that are safer and more comfortable, guaranteed a nice car. People with attitudes like this are wasting productivity and holding back innovation
@@Dave05J My point is that they may kill some people before they go out of business. We can't just let capitalism play itself out when these are preventable deaths.
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Honestly, for one of the first driverless rides in LA and given all the edge cases the performance is unquestionably impressive.
It's not perfect by any means, but given what I have seen average human drivers do, I think I'd actually feel safer in the Waymo.
10 years this planet will be unrecognizable
@@Darkness-ie2yl maybe in rich countries, rich will be richer on the back of poor countries
The drop off was a bit iffy but overall very impressive IMO. Waymo handled pedestrians, cyclists and some tight situations very well. In terms of autonomous driving capability and reliability, Waymo is far ahead of everybody.
I don’t have anything to compare it to, but it is singularly impressive.
@@Clyde-2055 compare it to tesla?
@@pennytrui1149 - Tesla’s not in the same ballpark, but at this point their focus isn’t robotaxis.
Their direct competition is Mobileye, Baidu, and (was?) Cruise.
Tesla has a fairly competent ADAS (driver assist), but it’s far from perfect. It should be said here that I don’t own a Tesla, and won’t own any EV for a while, yet.
My personal belief is that in the US and Asia (including to a lesser extent the ASEAN market), there is a huge potential for robotaxis, and in the US it appears that Alphabet has a huge advantage.
@@Clyde-2055 I actually think Tesla are set to dominate in this space. Not knocking Waymo, but Tesla have some huge advantages in self driving.
@@thewatcher5822 - I hope you’re right, but I’m just not seeing it. With FSD, it’s a swing and a miss, over and over, while Waymo is making steady progress.
Also, public interest in self-driving seems to be waning, and I feel that Musk himself is becoming discouraged with it as well.
Looks like waymo is ahead of the game
Awesome Waymo video guys. I do prefer when riders can shoot video from the back seat and keep the Waymo display in the video throughout the drive (so, yeah, that was mostly missing in this video), but you guys captured very challenging driving here near Venice Beach, so that aspect was awesome. I also loved your dialog. Most Waymo vloggers don't have a friend along, or their friend/family have little to say, especially about the driving. You guys had LOTS of interesting things to say about the driving, surrounding vehicles, and people (mostly pedestrians). Sure, other Waymo reviewers talk to the audience, but that isn't as good as what you guys achieved here. Together, that stuff made this video the best one I've watched on Waymo driving, and I've seen a lot of Waymo TH-cam videos lately. Great job! Please do more Waymo videos similar to this one or including other challenging driving areas or other times, maybe in the evening, on Friday or Saturday nights, that could be very tough because of traffic.
In my opinion, the best part of this video is at 12:20, near what you called the "weird left turn". I couldn't tell if that was remote re-routing related to your support call or if the Waymo computer did local re-routing, based on a lack of progress on that "weird left turn", to change it to an easier right turn. I've only seen the latter in Waymo videos, so I'd guess it was that.
I’m a retired city bus driver of 30 years and that Google taxi is absolutely an amazing driver. I don’t think I could of driven any better, other than perhaps cutting the speed while travelling through intersections by 2 to 3 mph, but it’s robotic so it’s reaction time is probably faster than a humans.
lol wrote the review before the remote driver took over haha , but still pretty freakin good, but remote driver should be faster
they will advertise the takeover of this technology with the promise of no more accidents
Great video … This thing did much better than I would have anticipated.
The person in the car is mistaken. Waymo does not use remote drivers. Waymo uses remote assistance that provides guidance but they never remote control the cars. The car is in full autonomous mode the whole time.
Just Semantics, assistance call it what you want it is HUMAN intervention.
@@dusty4047 It is human assistance, it is not human intervention since the humans don't actually intervene in the driving.
@@dusty4047 - It appears that Dippy doesn’t know the definition of “semantics” …
@@dusty4047 I don't think it was. See my longer comment and time link in that comment. My guess was that it was a local (meaning, in the car) re-route perform by the Waymo computer, based on a lack of progress in completing that "weird left turn". I think it was only a coincidence that the support call was in progress at that time. In short, the human riders interacting with human support had nothing to do with it. At least, that's the way it looked to me. Note that Waymos always display "Working to get you going" or staff says about the same thing during the support calls, but the only actions I've seen Waymo support do remotely is disable a Waymo car or send in a human driver. My guess is that, presently, they don't have the ability to override the routing remotely, and, of course, they can't drive the car remotely.
While technologically impressive, I can't get excited about it. The money this robot will make will be taking food from the table of hard-working humans. Big corporations strike again.
Huh, looks like the tech is getting there.
Seeing a car drive itself is so uncanny to see in real life.
Man I'm sweating just watching this... 😅😅 Though yeah impressive that no road-rage was caused by the robot's driving choices and by the choices of other drivers...
I love ❤ Waymo self-drive vehicle awesome, I can wait come Orange County.
this thing is a beast!
2:20 “ it sees you” starts to drive. Person on the side waiting “ see told you” 👍🏽
25:34 The car stopped to say goodbye.
Very cool that this car shows us what "Full Self Driving" really means. Waymo is better than Cruise, but both are getting better. The interesting thing will be to see how much customer demand there is for this kind of service. I have taken a cab or Uber where I asked the driver to make sure I got there ASAP, "Step on it." Sometimes I reserve a town car to get me comfortably and securely from an airport to a big city downtown location. Given the cost of the hardware and support structure, are robotaxis even financially viable?
Definitely not as capable as Tesla
@@cybertrk I never know when you guys are just being ironic.
You misspelled moronic
@@cybertrk Just that there's nobody in the front seat makes it FAR more capable than a Tesla. Pretty easy to find videos of the latest FSD beta software having disengagements and basic safety issues. Musk's livestream with the new end-to-end software had the car trying to go through a red light.
Not yet Financial viable but in Future
what is feature for taxi driver, bus driver??
It did pretty well. I wonder how much of a lead Tesla really has with fsd. Waymo is now limited to cities that have been thoroughly mapped into its system, but it doesn’t seem like a huge stretch to get it to where fsd currently is.
Tesla has no lead. They never did. Tesla is only level 2. Waymo is safer, reliable and more polished than FSD and it is fully driverless. Tesla FSD requires human supervision. Also, Waymo is geofenced by choice, not design. Waymo could do driverless everywhere now if they wanted to but that is not their business model.
@@TheDiplomat27Waymo must operate in mapped areas, which means geofenced by definition. The mapping isn't fully automated and it seems they need to drive there for a while to find pain points to avoid. Tesla is no different in this, but they have vehicles everywhere collecting data, globally, so it's assumed they're building the same kind of maps that Waymo is building -- but in the background with a worldwide fleet. Don't even need to be using FSD beta to be collecting data for Tesla.
Doesn't mean that Waymo can't move into whatever area they want, map, and deploy. It seems Tesla has an upper-hand here, but Waymo will get better and faster at this.
But that doesn't mean Tesla is ahead or will pull ahead. They're trying to solve computer vision to avoid LIDAR which is difficult to the point most believe it will never happen (and not like Waymo can't experiment here -- they have cameras too). They can't deploy hardware upgrades with nearly the same ease as Waymo. They're not even attempting to build a rideshare service, the most they've said is that Tesla owners will put their cars into some eventual service to make money which seems like something nobody would do.
And it's pretty clear that nobody's figured out how to fully remove the human. Remote assistance is still required in spots, so it's more like the grocery self-checkout at this stage than driverless. I can't see Tesla overcoming that. All true self-driving will look like Waymo does right now for the foreseeable future.
@@TheDiplomat27 Tesla has some huge advantages, and as I have said in an earlier comment are set to dominate in this space. Tesla are trying to solve a much bigger problem, but have been making some huge strides, especially with V12. By the end of this year I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tesla operating autonomously somewhere in America.
Tesla have also gained preliminary permission ( not quite there) to start operating FSD in Europe. Anyone watching this, as impressive as it may seem, and dismissing Tesla, have no idea what Tesla are doing.
Everyone I saw in downtown LA jaywalked all the time since traffic was perpetually clogged.
So what happens when a cop pulls you over? There no one driving the car.
They scratch their head and go WTF? It's already happened, not even a passenger in the car.
@@scott-mercer Initially, yes, but now, after learning from the protesters, I believe they stand in front of the Waymo until another officer can come and cone it. The police are supposed to be calling a Waymo support phone number, if no one is in the car or asking the riders to contact Waymo support, if the Waymo has riders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they started to carry cones in their police cars, just to deal with problematic Waymos.
Can a passenger sit in the driver seat?
No. It actually says no passenger in the driver seat
1:10 what kind of intersection is that? no lights, no stop signs. Just whatever, figure it out?
Strange that after all these years Waymo still gets stuck in simple situations.
The cross street has stop signs.
Do you mean this will be available to all Los Angeles County?
As of now, it’s only available in a section of LA within Santa Monica and Downtown LA. No service to the Valley, East LA, and LB yet. It’ll be a while before Waymo gets this right.
Get rid of the steering wheel. The invisible hands look odd😮
So when enough of these get out, the price of cars will skyrocket until these things are the only thing on the road. Its mass transit.
How's Moving Castle? 2:48
So now we can finally drink and ride and smoke 🤭😆😆 lol
Is ganja legal in California, now?
Aren't they all recalled!????
GM Cruise ones got recalled. Waymo is fine.
No
The design is wrong if it's a driverless car it should have all the room only for me I don't want any other seats and steering columns anything that remotely resembles a drivable car to set in the fear.
TRIPPY
Jaywalking is no longer illegal in California …
And neither is rioting, looting, and crapping on public sidewalks.
Wait
I will just be in the passenger seat.... feet on dashboard. Waving....how are yoooouuuuu?😂 maybe with a cocktail...non alcoholic so we don't get pulled over
to many ghosts and the secret ism and the bad and the dishonesty and the shaming and will be doubt ful at times and insubordinates
I've heard cyclists tout that self-driving cars will make the roads safer for them (hitting a cyclist is pretty much always human error)... but at 2:05 the car very clearly pulls into the bike lane to get "out of the way of traffic", meaning a cyclist would have to swerve into traffic to get around them, which is way more dangerous than if the car just stayed in the car lane like it's supposed to. It seems to be programmed to do that... which is pretty disappointing.
California Vehicle Code 21209 states:
(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle in a bicycle lane established on a roadway pursuant to Section 21207 except as follows:
(1) To park where parking is permitted.
(2) To enter or leave the roadway.
(3) To prepare for a turn within a distance of 200 feet from the intersection.
So it's certainly legal. Bikes don't have to "go around" a car doing this, they can wait.
@@agildehaus Yes, I didn't say it was illegal. These laws reflect an extremely dated way of thinking, and they too are contributing significantly to cyclist and scooter deaths.
It's very easy for a car to stop, wait for another car, and start again. On a bicycle, it's tiring to stop and start, and so the cyclist may make a split second decision to veer out into traffic, resulting in a deadly accident.
I'd imagine these cars will at least check the bike lane and signal before pulling over, which is great and will result in fewer deaths than the insane way almost every human driver does it. But this is still a clear example of Waymo programming their vehicles to do something which, at scale, will inevitably kill people.
If saying it's legal helps them sleep at night, then sure :)
As a cyclist I would far prefer to deal with self-driving cars any day
@@alexmontague5514 You're describing an action taken by the bicyclist, not any car, that puts the bicyclist in danger. Stop making "split second" decisions known to be dangerous to avoid a little fatigue.
Also, there were no bicyclists behind this Waymo, it may very well be programmed to not do this when there are.
@@agildehaus I think your first paragraph misses the point entirely. It's easy to blame the dead person for their death. Or... we can acknowledge that this is killing people.
I think your second paragraph is insightful though -- it's definitely possible they do check first. I'd guess that they don't, but perhaps I shouldn't assume... still, better safe than sorry.
Is this a Waymo ad? They are making people loose way 'mo jobs. I dont dupport this at all. I support the 100s of taxi and other drivers supporting their families with a good honest job. Waymo just makes one man, Way ' mo ' rich. Waymo doesnt feed hingry children just one company. Bad!!!
Well so we would still have the phone line switching operators acvording to you. We nred much more progress in all tech. You are just bad for humanity with your thinking. Go back to the stone age or to the Woods.
Totally agree with you. Same thing is happening in supermarkets with no human cashiers.
AI is here to stay
And coal mines!
It happened to checkouts in supermarkets, it happened to car manufacturing and now it's happening to taxis. I'm all for it, cheaper rides that are safer and more comfortable, guaranteed a nice car. People with attitudes like this are wasting productivity and holding back innovation
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Say goodbye to your driving licence! Automation has taken over. Will the roads be safer? Only humans make bad drivers.
Machines can make bad drivers, too. They all were until they got good enough. Not all companies can manage that.
@@_____case the companies that can't will just go out of business. That's capitalism.
@@Dave05J My point is that they may kill some people before they go out of business. We can't just let capitalism play itself out when these are preventable deaths.