What the father is doing is wrong. He's trying to force what his wife is saying. It's disrespectful to her. And why is the father completely blind to what the boy is doing? His sister was blinded in her eye and he's not the least bit nervous.
@Tenzin namgyal Manipulation or not, one should be able to see when his son doesn't have empathy and should stop him for being mean to his mother. Empathy can be practiced. Not all psychopaths turn out evil.
@Carter Swinton A psychopath doesn't have to turn out totally evil is taught right. They are often found to become doctors. There was one incident when a psychology professor found out he is a psychopath while teaching students about psychopathy. Obviously we are still researching the cluster Bs here so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
I think this scene was meant to represent Kevin eating his sister' eye. The way he bites the fruit has everything to do with the incident his sister went through, as if he was blowing her eye with his angry teeth.
I dont know why people give this movie such a bad rep! Yes I understand that the progression of the story is a little weird with the switching back and forth from past to present but its scenes like this that show the talents of the actors. Ezra delivers a convincing performance into the mind of a psychopath. He puts himself in this facade of being normal for his parents but his actions and subtleties show how truly messed up he is. Its really brilliant
Luxury Brown What's the matter? I don't remember there being any rule that juxtaposing is exclusive for 'an artist'. Moreover, he/she might as well be an artist.
It's strange seeing this clip knowing Ezra Miller's actions lately. It's almost like he took this role on because he felt like this on the inside all along.
not many actors are privileged enough to "take" roles. certainly not Ezra at the time. He was GIVEN this role because of how he comes across, exactly as the character calls for.
@@andreacastillo8810those kinds of disorders or socially unacceptable behaviour usually starts from childhood like the movie clearly shows, I wouldn't be shocked if he was always a little sick and twisted in the head and just ever got the help he needed just like his character
If this scene doesn't make you despise Kevin's character (with his lack of basic human emotion plus lack of empathy for his own family, complete disregard for the harm he's caused) I don't know what will. One thing is just to take the look of the character, out of context, and find him attractive (if the attention is solely on the physical attributes of the actor, that's a whole other thing) but within the context of the movie and the character that's being portrayed on the screen, any sensible human would be infuriated by this kind of behavior, even more so because the injustice of the whole situation; the psychopath gets no penalty for his actions because of the dysfunctional parenting; the mother not having enough backbone to stand up to her son properly and the dad's lack of knowing how to properly show authority as a father.
Yep, and those girls or women who say "something might be wrong with me cause I really like him" are just trying to be rebels, or because it's a beautiful actor in this role, want to imagine the type of pretty bad boy fantasy in their heads because they never experienced real trauma before (i.e. experiencing real cold heartedness that this character possesses, and if the roles were reversed, and if this guy did such a thing to their baby sister, then they wouldn't be so blinded by the beauty of the character, but would be kicked in the face by reality as to what REAL CRUELTY looks like), and this lack of real experience with trauma and seeing trauma allows these "girls" to say stupid shit like "something is wrong wrong me cause I like him." There's nothing wrong with you, you just happened to have the privilege of growing up in a way that you are sheltered from seeing what abuse looks like, from seeing what domestic abuse can look like, or from seeing a loved one cry for their mommas you see life slip from their eyes and not being able to do anything about it but to pray that everything will be OK. If this was the case, everyone would be disgusted with his behavior regardless of what he looks like. OR, if they chose an ugly actor, then everyone would be like, "damn this guy is cruel, I would do something to him if I ever saw him do something like that irl." Or something along those lines. Movie directors really know how to attract these sort of audience members to watch their movies because they are so easily manipulative in this marketable sense, but this is aside from the point that it's probably A REALLY GOOD MOVIE but I haven't seen it yet.....I hope I eventually get to watch it....looks crazy! Oh and I forget to say that, I'm also aware that there are those who don't really like the guy, but are really psychopathic and are attracted to the acts themselves, and enable them to like the person behind the cruelty. And then there are those who are easily infatuated by beauty, enough that it blinds them and clouds their judgment, and either end up in fucked up abusive relationships, or end up seeing their man involved in murder but continue to justify that he is enjoyment, even though their is so much evidence in support of his guilt. I say "he" because we are talking about a male actor and the ignorant infatuation that is associated with the ignorant groupie statements of "something wrong with me cause I still really like him and feel sorry for him," eventhough it there is really nothing wrong with it because the movie directors already know that this is one of the responses they are expecting from the viewer (otherwise 5hey would have picked a less attractive actor for the role) so women, your reaction isn't bad, it's manufactured and EXPECTED. But again, I keep saying "he," but this just as easily applies to us MEN when it comes to infatuation with a woman's beauty, and if it was the same movie, but a female actor instead, all us men, usually for comedic purposes, would be saying dumb crap like "somethings wrong with me cause I still really like her, I would help her if I could." Or "She can shoot me in 5he eye any time of the day." Or "I wish I could be stalked by a beautiful woman like that." Lol. All in all, I just think it's funny when girls say "something s wrong wrong me cause I like him and feel sorry for him," and are sort of serious about it, I think it's stupid, and they don't realize how VERY COMMON AND NORMAL their responses are, and how MANUFACTURED this reaction is by the movie directors thems3lves....sometimes they try and achieve these conflicting feelings of infatuation, and repulsion because of the physical beauty vs. the cruelty of the behavior. Its funny because it makes those girls feel like theybare some sort of "anime love quarrel rebel," without realizing how CONFORMING this reaction is.
@@low-keygneiss63 I understand what u wrote in the comment. I have watched the film twice and all in all I have felt the character of "Kevin" to be portrayed real well. I do think that it takes a lot to perform as a psychopathic character in a film and I do think Ezra succeeded on that part. That makes him attractive for me. Again I am not a woman. I have been bi all my life and have never looked upto any man or woman who are cold hearted and ruthless in behaviour. I have always despised Kevin in the movie as of of his behaviour. But, the fact that he could pull this off so well makes it attractive to me. I understand that directors choose beautiful or charming characters for films like this to get more audience. But there's also an understanding that most psychopaths are meant to be charming. If u look at the big examples like, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, Charles Manson, Eric Harris etc. All these were excessively charming men but they never came out to be much of as an attractive or handsome to majority of the ppl because of their deeds. Understanding that a person who murders ppl, kills animals, harms others is simply not attractive is a basic human decency. It has got nothing to do with how much trauma one has experienced. It's basic empathy for the victims that were targetted by those same "attractive" psychopaths. On contrast, if someone actually looks up to such psychopaths bcs they are attractive and irrespective of their crime records. Then those ppl are just weird humans with no social empathy or judgement. The reason why a lot of ppl are looking upto Ezra as Kevin in this film is bcs most of us know that all this killing ppl and being a psychopath never happened irl and that Ezra as in Kevin never murdered anyone irl and all this character portrayal was just sheerly for a movie. If it were a real life thing and if Kevin was a murderer irl, in real news then I bet most of the ppl would not find him attractive and would only feel sorry for the victims. Again it's not that deep, he's just a character, ppl found him attractive on how he ACTED in the film bcs all of us know he's not a real life psychopath and he never killed ppl. And that's why he was found attractive by many in the movie. *It has got nothing to do with trauma*
@@metishan-9ol656 oh ok...lol...I stand corrected. Yeah, he pulled it off really well....pretty convincing. Well my comment doesn't apply to you. I still haven't watched it but I am still looking forward to seeing this movie. I'm glad I was reminded of this movie again.
@Batuhan Batuhan why are you being so rude? and what does race even have to do with this scene? he was disgustingly eating a lychee which is a representation of his sister's eye, and that's what made his mom mad.
This movie was amazing, the husband never saw how evil his son was. Which was annoying bc everything could have been avoided if the parents stepped in and did something about his behavior.
Unbelievable if my son blinded his own sister and then showed zero remorse or empathy for what he did and then acted like that while we talked about it I would straight up beat his ass and when he regains consciousness and the ability to talk we can address the issue of what happened to his sister and his horrible behavior
Neither the book nor the movie say exactly what happened per se, and in the book the mother does show physical aggression though this is to no avail just like in real life there's little to no reasoning with these people. In the book Kevin actually toys with his fathers mind to get what he needs out of him, in the end he would probably act the way you desire him to act only to mislead you. Best thing for you to do would be to turn someone like him to the state, you could beat his ass if you wanted to, tho I urge if you know anybody with children like this to not take matters into their own hands and to simply report them. Had the mother handed him to the state those kids wouldn't have been killed at the school. Ironically there are so many parents like these in this movie, which is really sad honestly.
Nah, people like Kevin actually know what responsibility is, there's a misconception that psychopaths don't understand morality when in fact they do which is what makes them scarier and is what truly solidifies them as evil. My psychology teacher once said to display emotions vs. not having them are two different things. To put it in a way you'll see it better would be like someone causing physical pain because they know it hurts, in this scenario Kevin is toying with responsibility because he knows it drives his parents mad and he knows of their expectations, the fact that he knows his responsibilities is the direct awareness that leads to why he does not abide by them... Simply put, he pretends to not understand to manipulate others.
This is Swinton’s tour de force. It’s so hard to choose because she’s just so brilliant but if I had to choose this would be it. Lynne Ramsay also deserves credit for directing this masterpiece plus You Were Never Really Here.
@@Nikita-qb7xd um ho, are you slow? The dude have gotten arrested for assaulting a woman not too long ago and gotten arrested again a couple days ago. Get off his dick
When the movie begun I was feeling bad for Kevin thinking Eva was a bad mother, but as the film kept going and the mother was trying to better herself, I begun to feel less and less sympathy for Kevin and realise how much of a monster he is.
I'd say the primary part here is Kevin's not understanding that his parents think he'd feel responsible. Psychopaths never do. It wouldn't even occur to him as that's not in his psyche, and he's making that clear to his parents. Stupid dad doesn't get it..
Kevin understands completely. I'm not entirely sure where you got this idea that Psychopaths do not or are incapable of understanding responsibility, awareness, morality, the truth is that they fully do which is what makes them even scarier, I've seen several videos of killers and people who have talked to them and investigated them at this point have concluded that they're fully aware and that stuff like demons, visions, voices etc... Are usually ways to make excuses for them a sort of way to manipulate others into feeling sorry for them or fooling them into believing that they don't understand or are simply misunderstood. The method they use is the same method many abusers use on women and children, and because I'm going to be working in a prison it's very important for me to know that these inmates are actually all very much sound of mind, they do in fact know the difference between right and wrong which is what makes them evil people. For you to say they don't understand makes it so that they're not evil, to understand others feelings is the entire reason why he's so cruel to them why he plays with them. In fact if you read the book Kevin chose some of his victims based on understanding them and he tortured his sister based on jealousy because she is the exact opposite of him and even chose the timing correctly not only because of his age but also because his parents were talking about divorce which incidentally would mean an escape for his mother whom he had a pleasure with torturing throughout the whole story.
I know the author can’t Bc it might take away the ambiguity from her original book. But I legit wish she would do a POV from Kevin’s side …go into his thought processes etc. I would be purchasing that boom asap! Love this piece of work and movie!
The problem with psychopaths is that the perfectly know how to behave like a normal person. Look at the change he has with his father for example. With him he's always welcoming and open. With Doctors, he can build up a perfectly believable story about what happened to his arm.
I'm scared of Ezra Miller here just because of his negative portrayal. I mean, he's awesome in that role, but this character makes me scared of him even more.
I used to hate lychees until I chose to recreate this scene in film class and I had to watch it over and over and over again to create a shot list and a storyboard, and he made them look so sexy that I started to warm up to the idea of having to eat them for a whole day, but I couldn't find fresh ones because it was off season so I had to use canned lychees. And it was so disgusting I remember washing them to get the syrup off. This scene was so hard to shoot that I had to eat like 15 of those by the end of the day, and by the time we had the entire thing on camera, I was addicted to them. I didn't even notice that I started eating them while talking to my teacher between shots. Now all I want is a box of these and an orange juice. Smart choice watching this scene two months before the season starts. Great.
I really want to recreate the scene to it's oddly satisfying. Right now I just am using watermelon to recreate this scene but soon I will have some lychee to do it all the time. In a way your kind of like me by reading your comment. You get influenced by what you deem as cool in a movie or shows. 🤘🤣
Some parents really spoil their children , they think if they say to them the thing you did is bad then it means child abuse so they just shut up and let the child do whatever he/she wants. I'm a Asian and parents are strict but it's not mean that they hit the child...no but they are really care about respect and good behavior young ones must always respect old ones. Do your parents really hit you with a belt?!or you just want to say they are strict? (Sorry for my poor english)
I worked on the set of this film. What nobody knows is that the house this movie was filmed into had the most unbelievable level of paranormal activity I ever experienced in my life.
Dude does a good job playing a crazy person, but there are certain scenes that ruin the consistency that the character (kevin) could have. He could have good days and bad days but I'm going to stay thinking it was the writing.
For people like Kevin, the "Good Days" are pure manipulation. They could be a genuine enjoyment of the day, and no inclination to do any harm or mischief at the time, but that's their personal perogative. There's no actual affection there. Some days are simply to keep their family or friends on edge, doubting themselves.
*They're...what do you call it...an acquired taste* Like he's almost saying not everyone is like me...you need to have to be inhumane to have a lack of remorse, empathy, and feelings.....it's an acquired taste to understand me
Yes thank you I do not feel bad at all sitting here thinking what kind of parents are you to just let your kid behave that way after such a horrific event you mean that feel anything emotionally because you're a sociopath but I can promise you as a mother I'll make you feel the pain if you act that way towards me. I grew up with a manic depressive bipolar brother who also happens to be a junkie and prone to some extremely outrageous behavior and that's the nicest way I could put it. And unfortunately it runs in the family I grew up around many family members who either suffer from drug addiction mental illness or both. And I have seen all types of behavior ranging from stuff like this to violent outbursts and after years and years of it I can honestly say I don't take any of this crap and I wouldn't take it from my own son
I see a few comments thinking Kevin doesn't understand "responsibility", no he does, that's what makes him evil. Contrary to what most people think, psychopaths know between right and wrong, that's what makes them evil, they do wrong because they know it's wrong, the why is for various reasons, some do it for fun like Henry Lucas, some do it out of sheer selfishness and pleasure like Ted Bundy, others do it to hurt other people like Richard Ramirez while others do it because they take a bizarre interest in experimentation such as Jefferey Dhamer, whatever the reason as to why they do bad things makes no difference, just know that they're aware, don't make excuses for them. If you do research you'll see that all psychos are aware of what they're doing and the effects they have. I believe they're in control of what they do despite what google says, but they simply don't care about you, I mean like most people you gotta give them a reason to control their behavior and it has to be of value to them which is something we as a society lack, we have little to nothing that they want that could make them stop or control themselves. Don't make excuses for these people ever.
What you wrote is confirmed by the novel itself, when Kevin (after the crime) finds repulsive mass shooters who won't take responsibility or look for an excuses. I've notice you read it.
Kevin is a textbook psychopath, no matter what they did he was going to turn out this way. He does not have the capacity to care about other people. He sees everyone around him as objects for his amusement who he can manipulate. He massacres his classmates, they didn't bully him or treat him like shit, he just wanted to because they mean nothing to him. Since he was a toddler he rejected all of his mothers attempts at making a connection and goes out of his way to cause her pain. Do not ever defend people like Kevin
Can I read anything meaningful about his unnatural behaviour without fangirls horrending about how hot he is... Wake up, he is portraying a psycho-soiciopath... Gosh these may be the same kind of girls who would jump into Ted Bundy's car, just cause he was handsome.
No. This guy is a monsterous psychopath who needs to be locked up or taken to a mental institution. Fortunately, he is not invincible like Michael Myers.
I'm still kinda curious how exactly she was blinded by the drain stuff, like did he hold his sister down & pour it on her? She doesn't say what happened, if she did then maybe the dad would start to believe his wife
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What the father is doing is wrong. He's trying to force what his wife is saying. It's disrespectful to her. And why is the father completely blind to what the boy is doing? His sister was blinded in her eye and he's not the least bit nervous.
Aww look, a triggered feminist
@@nora4981 super useless comment
@Tenzin namgyal Manipulation or not, one should be able to see when his son doesn't have empathy and should stop him for being mean to his mother. Empathy can be practiced. Not all psychopaths turn out evil.
What about the mother? She didn’t do anything
@Carter Swinton A psychopath doesn't have to turn out totally evil is taught right. They are often found to become doctors. There was one incident when a psychology professor found out he is a psychopath while teaching students about psychopathy. Obviously we are still researching the cluster Bs here so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
after she left the room you see him spit it out. Just proof that he's purposefully making her life hell
he didnt spit it out, wha you on about mate
ekiurkour67v yeah he spits it out in the film.
Ah, right. My bad
ekiurkour67v you can watch it on Hulu
That's the point. Kevin hates his mom
When he was peeling and eating that thing I felt sick...just looking at it...
I know right. Especially if you consider it might represent the girls eye.
It’s a chinese fruit I think: leechee
Can never look at a lychee the same way again.
Me too. I'm a girl but I don't feel it looks hot anyhow. It is disgusting.
It looks fucking gross. But in the book, it's apparently some type of chinese fruit that you can buy.
I think this scene was meant to represent Kevin eating his sister' eye. The way he bites the fruit has everything to do with the incident his sister went through, as if he was blowing her eye with his angry teeth.
I think so also
Obviously...
Well duh!
No s*** Sherlock.
ya think...
A better title for the movie would be: "We Need to Kick the Shit Out of Kevin".
Hahahahaha exactly!!!
Yasssss
That accually would of probably helped him
Was the thing he was eating representing his sister's eye?
athina makridi that’s what I am wondering
athina makridi it’s an onion
Hi it´s called rambutan is a fruit, tasted goods greetings from veracruz east of mexico...
Ho I remember its called lichis is a fruit too, Im sorry is very similar to the rambutan...
he was eating a lychee lmao not a rambutan
I dont know why people give this movie such a bad rep! Yes I understand that the progression of the story is a little weird with the switching back and forth from past to present but its scenes like this that show the talents of the actors. Ezra delivers a convincing performance into the mind of a psychopath. He puts himself in this facade of being normal for his parents but his actions and subtleties show how truly messed up he is. Its really brilliant
Killjoy Cherry Bomb, a bad rap? This movie was one of the most highly praised films when it first came out.
This movie is critically acclaimed. Nobody gave it a “bad rap”. The non-linear narrative is not “weird”. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Method actor for sure.
That's cause Ezra wasn't acting. They were playing themselves
@@fionaautumn true. He's an abusive sociopath
the way he eats is so disgustingly sensual
Luxury Brown How would you describe it then?
‘disgustingly sensual’ LOVE THAT
Luxury Brown What's the matter? I don't remember there being any rule that juxtaposing is exclusive for 'an artist'. Moreover, he/she might as well be an artist.
Luxury Brown // i’m sorry but i have to laugh
Luxury Brown How is he/she acting like an artist though? They're not even gloating
I see him as a real life anime phsycopath.
***** Ones anime, the other one mostly looks like crap. I'm pretty sure there's a difference between anime and real life.
He kinda reminds me of light yagami
Light Yagami?
Masticatious RASENGAN!! Sakura is my life, I must give it all to protect her against the Akatsuki!
So True
Dad was such a tool it's actually upsetting.
He needs to Play Richard Ramirez ( The Night Stalker ) Before he gets to old
That would be the most perfect casting--almost matches Ross Lynch and Dahmer!
OMG YAS
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Richard Ramirez was Latino and Ezra isn't, so no.
It's strange seeing this clip knowing Ezra Miller's actions lately. It's almost like he took this role on because he felt like this on the inside all along.
He took this role because then he didn't even have to try to do any acting. He could just be himself.
not many actors are privileged enough to "take" roles. certainly not Ezra at the time. He was GIVEN this role because of how he comes across, exactly as the character calls for.
Come on, he was 18 years old at the time. Over time he became corrupted, like many other actors.
@@andreacastillo8810those kinds of disorders or socially unacceptable behaviour usually starts from childhood like the movie clearly shows, I wouldn't be shocked if he was always a little sick and twisted in the head and just ever got the help he needed just like his character
Dudes method acting lmao
the guy that plays Kevin is so hot
Michelle Avalos Ezra Miller is perfection 😍
He's beautiful
his name is ezra miller and he's 11/10
Michelle Avalos his name is Ezra miller
Michelle Avalos I know. It's confusing me. Like.......is he crazy.....or is he crazy hot? 🤔
This is a brilliant scene, in so many ways. Kudos to the director.
If this scene doesn't make you despise Kevin's character (with his lack of basic human emotion plus lack of empathy for his own family, complete disregard for the harm he's caused) I don't know what will.
One thing is just to take the look of the character, out of context, and find him attractive (if the attention is solely on the physical attributes of the actor, that's a whole other thing) but within the context of the movie and the character that's being portrayed on the screen, any sensible human would be infuriated by this kind of behavior, even more so because the injustice of the whole situation; the psychopath gets no penalty for his actions because of the dysfunctional parenting; the mother not having enough backbone to stand up to her son properly and the dad's lack of knowing how to properly show authority as a father.
Mr ChrisSir lack of empathy*
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Yep, and those girls or women who say "something might be wrong with me cause I really like him" are just trying to be rebels, or because it's a beautiful actor in this role, want to imagine the type of pretty bad boy fantasy in their heads because they never experienced real trauma before (i.e. experiencing real cold heartedness that this character possesses, and if the roles were reversed, and if this guy did such a thing to their baby sister, then they wouldn't be so blinded by the beauty of the character, but would be kicked in the face by reality as to what REAL CRUELTY looks like), and this lack of real experience with trauma and seeing trauma allows these "girls" to say stupid shit like "something is wrong wrong me cause I like him." There's nothing wrong with you, you just happened to have the privilege of growing up in a way that you are sheltered from seeing what abuse looks like, from seeing what domestic abuse can look like, or from seeing a loved one cry for their mommas you see life slip from their eyes and not being able to do anything about it but to pray that everything will be OK. If this was the case, everyone would be disgusted with his behavior regardless of what he looks like. OR, if they chose an ugly actor, then everyone would be like, "damn this guy is cruel, I would do something to him if I ever saw him do something like that irl." Or something along those lines. Movie directors really know how to attract these sort of audience members to watch their movies because they are so easily manipulative in this marketable sense, but this is aside from the point that it's probably A REALLY GOOD MOVIE but I haven't seen it yet.....I hope I eventually get to watch it....looks crazy! Oh and I forget to say that, I'm also aware that there are those who don't really like the guy, but are really psychopathic and are attracted to the acts themselves, and enable them to like the person behind the cruelty. And then there are those who are easily infatuated by beauty, enough that it blinds them and clouds their judgment, and either end up in fucked up abusive relationships, or end up seeing their man involved in murder but continue to justify that he is enjoyment, even though their is so much evidence in support of his guilt. I say "he" because we are talking about a male actor and the ignorant infatuation that is associated with the ignorant groupie statements of "something wrong with me cause I still really like him and feel sorry for him," eventhough it there is really nothing wrong with it because the movie directors already know that this is one of the responses they are expecting from the viewer (otherwise 5hey would have picked a less attractive actor for the role) so women, your reaction isn't bad, it's manufactured and EXPECTED. But again, I keep saying "he," but this just as easily applies to us MEN when it comes to infatuation with a woman's beauty, and if it was the same movie, but a female actor instead, all us men, usually for comedic purposes, would be saying dumb crap like "somethings wrong with me cause I still really like her, I would help her if I could." Or "She can shoot me in 5he eye any time of the day." Or "I wish I could be stalked by a beautiful woman like that." Lol. All in all, I just think it's funny when girls say "something s wrong wrong me cause I like him and feel sorry for him," and are sort of serious about it, I think it's stupid, and they don't realize how VERY COMMON AND NORMAL their responses are, and how MANUFACTURED this reaction is by the movie directors thems3lves....sometimes they try and achieve these conflicting feelings of infatuation, and repulsion because of the physical beauty vs. the cruelty of the behavior. Its funny because it makes those girls feel like theybare some sort of "anime love quarrel rebel," without realizing how CONFORMING this reaction is.
@@low-keygneiss63 I understand what u wrote in the comment. I have watched the film twice and all in all I have felt the character of "Kevin" to be portrayed real well. I do think that it takes a lot to perform as a psychopathic character in a film and I do think Ezra succeeded on that part. That makes him attractive for me. Again I am not a woman. I have been bi all my life and have never looked upto any man or woman who are cold hearted and ruthless in behaviour. I have always despised Kevin in the movie as of of his behaviour. But, the fact that he could pull this off so well makes it attractive to me. I understand that directors choose beautiful or charming characters for films like this to get more audience. But there's also an understanding that most psychopaths are meant to be charming. If u look at the big examples like, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, Charles Manson, Eric Harris etc. All these were excessively charming men but they never came out to be much of as an attractive or handsome to majority of the ppl because of their deeds. Understanding that a person who murders ppl, kills animals, harms others is simply not attractive is a basic human decency. It has got nothing to do with how much trauma one has experienced. It's basic empathy for the victims that were targetted by those same "attractive" psychopaths. On contrast, if someone actually looks up to such psychopaths bcs they are attractive and irrespective of their crime records. Then those ppl are just weird humans with no social empathy or judgement. The reason why a lot of ppl are looking upto Ezra as Kevin in this film is bcs most of us know that all this killing ppl and being a psychopath never happened irl and that Ezra as in Kevin never murdered anyone irl and all this character portrayal was just sheerly for a movie. If it were a real life thing and if Kevin was a murderer irl, in real news then I bet most of the ppl would not find him attractive and would only feel sorry for the victims. Again it's not that deep, he's just a character, ppl found him attractive on how he ACTED in the film bcs all of us know he's not a real life psychopath and he never killed ppl. And that's why he was found attractive by many in the movie. *It has got nothing to do with trauma*
@@metishan-9ol656 oh ok...lol...I stand corrected. Yeah, he pulled it off really well....pretty convincing. Well my comment doesn't apply to you. I still haven't watched it but I am still looking forward to seeing this movie. I'm glad I was reminded of this movie again.
We need to talk about Ezra.
He wasn't even acting in this movie, he was just being himself.
😂😂😂😂😂
eating eyeball
아보카도맛있지 its a leechee fruit
This makes so much sense. Thank you thank you.
@Batuhan Batuhan why are you being so rude? and what does race even have to do with this scene?
he was disgustingly eating a lychee which is a representation of his sister's eye, and that's what made his mom mad.
@Batuhan Batuhan fucking china
@Batuhan Batuhan stfu
The dad was so useless in this movie
Yeah true but hes a good actor lmao it is true
Ezra Miller is just too fine.
This movie was amazing, the husband never saw how evil his son was. Which was annoying bc everything could have been avoided if the parents stepped in and did something about his behavior.
Tbf the mother tried, she also brought him to professionals
The father chose not to see. It is easier to be just a buddy to your child rather than putting the work into being a parent.
Or, if his mother would be loving and caring
Studies have shown that very little can be done about psychopathy
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omg yes
i wishhhh
tilda and ezra are amazing in this movie
Ezra is so hot
Beautiful clever sexy. Jeez whatever bird/dude lands him on a permanent basis should be canonised.
The acting by Ezra is on point honestly. Like they’re acting shows the true psychopath that is Kevin. Everyone else’s acting was on point as well.
you mean like the true psycho ezra is?
That's because he wasn't acting - LoL
We Need To Talk About Ezra - Psychopathic Breakdown: th-cam.com/video/7dErBNZlzDo/w-d-xo.html
That's bc he wasn't acting, Ezra kidnapped children in his weed farm and molested them
He's* not they're
@@rics1883 ezra’s non-binary. You tried to correct me like a Karen even though there was no point in correcting me and failed, congrats
ezra miller is literally kevin omg
Unbelievable if my son blinded his own sister and then showed zero remorse or empathy for what he did and then acted like that while we talked about it I would straight up beat his ass and when he regains consciousness and the ability to talk we can address the issue of what happened to his sister and his horrible behavior
Neither the book nor the movie say exactly what happened per se, and in the book the mother does show physical aggression though this is to no avail just like in real life there's little to no reasoning with these people. In the book Kevin actually toys with his fathers mind to get what he needs out of him, in the end he would probably act the way you desire him to act only to mislead you. Best thing for you to do would be to turn someone like him to the state, you could beat his ass if you wanted to, tho I urge if you know anybody with children like this to not take matters into their own hands and to simply report them. Had the mother handed him to the state those kids wouldn't have been killed at the school. Ironically there are so many parents like these in this movie, which is really sad honestly.
@@walkingcorpse1224 Father was in perpetual and deep denial.
@@dominicksebastien2254 Like many parents that he was.
@@walkingcorpse1224 Indeed. Teachers know it best, when confronted by "I know my kid is a bit special but would never hurt a fly"
Not if he’s a teenager. Boys are really strong, chances are if he’s got mental problems already he won’t be scared to hurt you too.
With everything going on in his life right now, I Don't think he was acting. 😲
Yeah, he was basically just being himself in this movie.
Kevin's brain.....
RESPONSIBLE, WTF is that.
My brain.....
RESPONSIBLE, the exact opposite of me.
Nah, people like Kevin actually know what responsibility is, there's a misconception that psychopaths don't understand morality when in fact they do which is what makes them scarier and is what truly solidifies them as evil. My psychology teacher once said to display emotions vs. not having them are two different things. To put it in a way you'll see it better would be like someone causing physical pain because they know it hurts, in this scenario Kevin is toying with responsibility because he knows it drives his parents mad and he knows of their expectations, the fact that he knows his responsibilities is the direct awareness that leads to why he does not abide by them... Simply put, he pretends to not understand to manipulate others.
This is Swinton’s tour de force. It’s so hard to choose because she’s just so brilliant but if I had to choose this would be it. Lynne Ramsay also deserves credit for directing this masterpiece plus You Were Never Really Here.
Wreck It Ralph, Barry Allen, and the Ancient One
Kevin’s a fucking nightmare. Makes me angry. Ezra played him perfectly 😂
he played himself, always the best Performances
@@RowBlanka Ezra Miller is a sadistic psychopath?
@@Nikita-qb7xd I mean you haven’t heard what’s he’s doing lately?
@@grendels_mother Umm... no? What’s he doing? He didn’t murder someone, did he? 🙄
@@Nikita-qb7xd um ho, are you slow? The dude have gotten arrested for assaulting a woman not too long ago and gotten arrested again a couple days ago. Get off his dick
He is eating a lychee
Hunter Cuthbertson in a very disgusting way
THANK YOU
Pretending it’s his sisters eye😂
Yeah Really....
So when is the sequel coming out? We need to talk about Ezra.
@jennyclark6183Yes. It would be interesting to see how he reintigrated back into society, or doesn't and starts killing again
Kind of seeing this scene in a different light now considering recent events.
We need to talk about Ezra XD
@@satireisnotdead5804 Xactly;D Good one
@@Fnelrbnef Man's a wreckage now
Yeah, he was basically just being himself. He didn't even have to act at all.
Kevin needed serious counseling...
Damn that father lets his son disrespect him. I would never let my kid talk to me that way.
He Deserved it because he let him treat his wife like shit and then gaslighted her
When the movie begun I was feeling bad for Kevin thinking Eva was a bad mother, but as the film kept going and the mother was trying to better herself, I begun to feel less and less sympathy for Kevin and realise how much of a monster he is.
Ezra is like this in real life
Exactly. He was just being himself in this movie.
ey b0ss
Oh my god he does look like franku
+Miss Sadie he's literally Frank's cousin
they are cousins btw
trash Holy shit, they're actually related???
No theyre not
Am I the only one that thinks he looks like reallife L without eyebags?🙈
janina live I was literally about to comment that!
janina live I thought that too!! He reminds me of an anime character😂😄
Oh my gosh, I was thinking about how he reminded me of how L would look in real life just a bit ago!
FUCK HE SO DOES! Who would be his Light?
I thought that too! He definitely looks like L.
To those who asked but never got an answer; He's eating something called lychee...some kind of fruit.
That's exactly what I was scrolling through the comments to find out!! Thank you!!
Is it any good?
@@LeeLee19901 i kimd of like it,
@@LeeLee19901 tastes closest to a grape, u should def try
We call them lichas in Guatemala
The part She said, I thought you didn't like that fruit, ment that kevin ate that white fruit imagining it was his sister's eye.
2022: We need to talk about Ezra...
I love that the movie shows Eva self-medicating throughout the film. She was an alcoholic. She used it to cope with the emotional bondage of her life.
The real thing Kevin needs to sort out is his table manners
he's so gorgeous
I'd say the primary part here is Kevin's not understanding that his parents think he'd feel responsible. Psychopaths never do. It wouldn't even occur to him as that's not in his psyche, and he's making that clear to his parents. Stupid dad doesn't get it..
Kevin understands completely. I'm not entirely sure where you got this idea that Psychopaths do not or are incapable of understanding responsibility, awareness, morality, the truth is that they fully do which is what makes them even scarier, I've seen several videos of killers and people who have talked to them and investigated them at this point have concluded that they're fully aware and that stuff like demons, visions, voices etc... Are usually ways to make excuses for them a sort of way to manipulate others into feeling sorry for them or fooling them into believing that they don't understand or are simply misunderstood. The method they use is the same method many abusers use on women and children, and because I'm going to be working in a prison it's very important for me to know that these inmates are actually all very much sound of mind, they do in fact know the difference between right and wrong which is what makes them evil people. For you to say they don't understand makes it so that they're not evil, to understand others feelings is the entire reason why he's so cruel to them why he plays with them. In fact if you read the book Kevin chose some of his victims based on understanding them and he tortured his sister based on jealousy because she is the exact opposite of him and even chose the timing correctly not only because of his age but also because his parents were talking about divorce which incidentally would mean an escape for his mother whom he had a pleasure with torturing throughout the whole story.
Wow!!! Never ever having kids
Yeah Really!!!
Amen
some people are disgusted and hate this scene.......i, myself find it more than easy to watch it over and over
Alyza Grant same
made me O.
I know the author can’t Bc it might take away the ambiguity from her original book. But I legit wish she would do a POV from Kevin’s side …go into his thought processes etc. I would be purchasing that boom asap! Love this piece of work and movie!
There's no one to blame but the parents. They should have gotten him the help he needed a long, long time ago.
mom went to doctor & doctor said he was fine
if you want to blame someone other than Kevin, blame the father
The problem with psychopaths is that the perfectly know how to behave like a normal person. Look at the change he has with his father for example. With him he's always welcoming and open. With Doctors, he can build up a perfectly believable story about what happened to his arm.
@Annistar Bullshit
Nothing to do with the parents. Psychopaths are wired differently from other humans and so far there is absolutely nothing we can do to change them.
@Annistar actually they can they just don’t want it
This is such a good movie, but so sad
I'm scared of Ezra Miller here just because of his negative portrayal. I mean, he's awesome in that role, but this character makes me scared of him even more.
their pronouns are they/them btw
@@fariedadavids3373 dear God. Do you sit in your room pouncing on everyone's comments for wrongspeak?
Well it turns out they are fucked up irl so you weren't far off
The frizeng of this family is absurd...they don't have a real feeling for nothing a part themself😂 in this movie we can save only the little girl
The character makes me so nervous 😂
I used to hate lychees until I chose to recreate this scene in film class and I had to watch it over and over and over again to create a shot list and a storyboard, and he made them look so sexy that I started to warm up to the idea of having to eat them for a whole day, but I couldn't find fresh ones because it was off season so I had to use canned lychees. And it was so disgusting I remember washing them to get the syrup off. This scene was so hard to shoot that I had to eat like 15 of those by the end of the day, and by the time we had the entire thing on camera, I was addicted to them. I didn't even notice that I started eating them while talking to my teacher between shots. Now all I want is a box of these and an orange juice. Smart choice watching this scene two months before the season starts. Great.
I really want to recreate the scene to it's oddly satisfying. Right now I just am using watermelon to recreate this scene but soon I will have some lychee to do it all the time. In a way your kind of like me by reading your comment. You get influenced by what you deem as cool in a movie or shows. 🤘🤣
Lychee is my favorite fruit!
The father failed his wife miserably.
Very meaningfull movie and amazing actors. Tilda and Ezra very good actors. We should understand Kevin
Yes keep the wine when your running away
He is such an asshole but I love it, this scene is actually really funny
They are, oh what do you call it?
*An acquired taste.*
Everyone saying "OMG Ezra"
I'm over here looking at John C. Reilly.
Haha lmao....everyone talking about Ezra, but no one realizing how HOT John C. Reilly is in this movie role...lol
In case you're wondering, that's a lychee.
He figures out in the end that she loves him. It's so dark.
The title for this video should have been "An Acquired Taste." The book is amazing, a lot of insight into a sociopath's mind
Pls name of the book?!
@@marianaiancu4571 we need to talk about kevin
Such a great movie. Terrifying but also kinda funny. Kevin does some really funny shit and John C. Riely is funny no matter how serious he is.
Wow I didn’t know there was an Ezra Miller biopic
U iz nasty for this comment 😂
Turns out Ezra never played a character after all in this movie... He was playing himself...
YES! 😂
I hate him too! He's so irresponsible and blames the mom for everything
He doesn’t blame her. Not even a bit.
A movie about kevin a teen sociopath, he manipulates and controls his family who don’t know what to do with him
Anti-social behavior is evident and symptomatic of psychopathy, along with lack of empathy.
I guess this is Flash’s,Acient one, and drunk guy’s family reunion
Ezra Miller is a good actor xD
he ate his sisters eye....wow
It's a lychee, but it could be representing his sister's eye.
This kid is seriously not there like he can do what ever he wants
White parents: leaves the room
My parents: slams head on table.... grabs belt
Some parents really spoil their children , they think if they say to them the thing you did is bad then it means child abuse so they just shut up and let the child do whatever he/she wants.
I'm a Asian and parents are strict but it's not mean that they hit the child...no but they are really care about respect and good behavior young ones must always respect old ones.
Do your parents really hit you with a belt?!or you just want to say they are strict?
(Sorry for my poor english)
@Jenny clark Kevin was always going to end up that way. It was innevitable
I love him in City Island his character is adorable and funny
Seek help
Thx for that advice actually I am my son died of cancer
“Dont worry pal, its not that weird to have a code name”
An really good movie. It's stay with you a long time.
I worked on the set of this film. What nobody knows is that the house this movie was filmed into had the most unbelievable level of paranormal activity I ever experienced in my life.
Huh? Are you serious? Because tbh, Kevin Khatchadourian reminds me a lot of one male spirit who was really unpleasant.
Dude does a good job playing a crazy person, but there are certain scenes that ruin the consistency that the character (kevin) could have. He could have good days and bad days but I'm going to stay thinking it was the writing.
For people like Kevin, the "Good Days" are pure manipulation. They could be a genuine enjoyment of the day, and no inclination to do any harm or mischief at the time, but that's their personal perogative. There's no actual affection there. Some days are simply to keep their family or friends on edge, doubting themselves.
I don't want kids after watching this this scene is so disturbing
Same
*They're...what do you call it...an acquired taste*
Like he's almost saying not everyone is like me...you need to have to be inhumane to have a lack of remorse, empathy, and feelings.....it's an acquired taste to understand me
“ezra’s acting is so good” playing terrible ppl is a bit easier when ur a terrible person
You just wanna beat the shit out of him 😬😂
Yes thank you I do not feel bad at all sitting here thinking what kind of parents are you to just let your kid behave that way after such a horrific event you mean that feel anything emotionally because you're a sociopath but I can promise you as a mother I'll make you feel the pain if you act that way towards me. I grew up with a manic depressive bipolar brother who also happens to be a junkie and prone to some extremely outrageous behavior and that's the nicest way I could put it. And unfortunately it runs in the family I grew up around many family members who either suffer from drug addiction mental illness or both. And I have seen all types of behavior ranging from stuff like this to violent outbursts and after years and years of it I can honestly say I don't take any of this crap and I wouldn't take it from my own son
I wonder if any movie would have the guts to do a movie like this but have the mother kill the son before he can do harm.
This movie was painful to watch till the end. Besides that I think I might read the book....
was the acquired taste line referencing natural born killers
"Oooh. Let me have it. Let me grab your soul away". -Kate Bush, Wuthering Heights
I see a few comments thinking Kevin doesn't understand "responsibility", no he does, that's what makes him evil. Contrary to what most people think, psychopaths know between right and wrong, that's what makes them evil, they do wrong because they know it's wrong, the why is for various reasons, some do it for fun like Henry Lucas, some do it out of sheer selfishness and pleasure like Ted Bundy, others do it to hurt other people like Richard Ramirez while others do it because they take a bizarre interest in experimentation such as Jefferey Dhamer, whatever the reason as to why they do bad things makes no difference, just know that they're aware, don't make excuses for them. If you do research you'll see that all psychos are aware of what they're doing and the effects they have. I believe they're in control of what they do despite what google says, but they simply don't care about you, I mean like most people you gotta give them a reason to control their behavior and it has to be of value to them which is something we as a society lack, we have little to nothing that they want that could make them stop or control themselves. Don't make excuses for these people ever.
What you wrote is confirmed by the novel itself, when Kevin (after the crime) finds repulsive mass shooters who won't take responsibility or look for an excuses. I've notice you read it.
These parents created their own heli.
NOT, feeling sorry for them.
Kevin is a textbook psychopath, no matter what they did he was going to turn out this way. He does not have the capacity to care about other people. He sees everyone around him as objects for his amusement who he can manipulate. He massacres his classmates, they didn't bully him or treat him like shit, he just wanted to because they mean nothing to him. Since he was a toddler he rejected all of his mothers attempts at making a connection and goes out of his way to cause her pain. Do not ever defend people like Kevin
Kevin was just unbearable
Kevin leave the timeline alone
Bloody 'eck this film turned out to be topical in the light of recent events involving Ezra XD
Can I read anything meaningful about his unnatural behaviour without fangirls horrending about how hot he is...
Wake up, he is portraying a psycho-soiciopath...
Gosh these may be the same kind of girls who would jump into Ted Bundy's car, just cause he was handsome.
they're cearly talking about ezra. not kevin....
No fan girls could ever date him since he’s gay 😂
@Jenny clark Ezra may also be a psychopath irl 😂
and now, we need to talk about Ezra 😛
Ezra wasn't acting.
I love this guy
No. This guy is a monsterous psychopath who needs to be locked up or taken to a mental institution. Fortunately, he is not invincible like Michael Myers.
I'm still kinda curious how exactly she was blinded by the drain stuff, like did he hold his sister down & pour it on her? She doesn't say what happened, if she did then maybe the dad would start to believe his wife
Interesting. Kevin is seated at the head of the table.