Caustic got massively NERFED. Is it that bad? (Chaos Theory - Apex Legends)

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  • ►Caustic got nerfed to oblivion in the latest Chaos Theory patch for Apex Legends. Is he finally dead? Or is it not actually that bad?
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ความคิดเห็น • 836

  • @Walker07620
    @Walker07620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +956

    Imagine getting nerfed in your own town Takeover

    • @judes3244
      @judes3244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Fr you can survive for over a minute in his gas

    • @SnowxXxLeopard
      @SnowxXxLeopard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@judes3244 okay but genuine question, why are you just going to let people sit in your gas and heal?

    • @WhisperAH
      @WhisperAH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@SnowxXxLeopard that isn’t the point I sometime trap a building and see enemies going to camp there it’s more about keeping them out of an area

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Robbed in my own hood

    • @bloodbane93
      @bloodbane93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Not even that. Boy didn’t even get a tracker in his own event 😭

  • @user_rub3n270
    @user_rub3n270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    The moment you realize bangalore's smoke does more damage than caustic's gas

    • @KingCookie_III
      @KingCookie_III 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup

    • @midamega-tool7393
      @midamega-tool7393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh its only a single tick tho and you have to basically hit them with it???

  • @GenesisRockwell
    @GenesisRockwell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    11:06 the result of when you've been friends for so long, your words start to become synched haha

  • @AlExAnDeR30285
    @AlExAnDeR30285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I just want Season 4 Caustic back... Where his gas had 4 dmg and went to 10 dmg per tick, had the slow and the vision restriction.

    • @joshvanderbij4891
      @joshvanderbij4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was nice, in that case wouldn't even mind the minute Ult timer increase

    • @necrosis6037
      @necrosis6037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      His passive is pointless. EVERYONE CAN SEE THROUGH HIS GAS SO WHATS THE POINT OF IT

    • @AlExAnDeR30285
      @AlExAnDeR30285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@necrosis6037 Yeah... I mean his passive had some meaning if we talk about his old gas traps were you had a blur screen and his old passive made him ignore the blur vision. But now his traps dont do blur vision to you means his current passive is less effective than before. To be fair its still harder to see the people when they are in your gas if you would not have caustics current passive.

  • @hutchsrevenge2424
    @hutchsrevenge2424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Rip Caustic 2019-2021.
    "I feel most alive when rapidly approaching my death"
    -Alexander Nox

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sigh he finally reached his death

    • @pvpsniper
      @pvpsniper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      his great legacy has come to an end.

    • @nefyrev1011
      @nefyrev1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was so bad at launch then he was ok and then broken and now hes back to ok

    • @astro-thegod4797
      @astro-thegod4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mate people acting like his ult is everything and is suppose to be a trump card when pushing, I’m a caustic main and I see NO DIFFERENCE and plus it’s nice Cause you can help people get 20 bombs since you don’t steal kills or get any with the gas anymore . But we all have opinions

    • @apples874
      @apples874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@astro-thegod4797 You nutter

  • @Zabor-ny3co
    @Zabor-ny3co 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Causric was nerfed because some pros cant resist the urge to push and kill everyone and just die in the gas

    • @RealRad10
      @RealRad10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Facts

    • @Colossal322
      @Colossal322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Big facts

    • @errcboomer3246
      @errcboomer3246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Actually though. In the small percentage of situations where gas actually blocked a pathway, you could literally just wait it out for a little bit. Also, movement characters meant you never actually were stuck. Yeah, he felt strong but he wasn't broken. Now his gas feels like a mirage decoy.

    • @Zabor-ny3co
      @Zabor-ny3co 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@errcboomer3246 you know, if they bring the damage to 6 like before but keet the ultimate cooldown he would be actually better to me

    • @aaronn.liftss
      @aaronn.liftss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In ranked that’s not how it works. His gas final ring is the problem not pushing and killing. Pros can work around the gas if they just wanted to push but in final ring there is no where else to go

  • @shadowofchaos41
    @shadowofchaos41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    They need to add back the blinding aspect of it. Honestly as a Caustic main it isn't as bad as I thought it would be but if you are gonna nerf the gas that badly at least add back the blinding aspect of it

    • @YoKaiSorrows01
      @YoKaiSorrows01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They should cuzz you can see through the gas or smoke easily

    • @coryseavers2932
      @coryseavers2932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I’ve noticed if I try to hold a building people just walk in the gas because it’s just not a threat anymore if started doing the same thing when I’m not playing him

    • @astro-thegod4797
      @astro-thegod4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I see no difference in my gameplay and do good, I honestly think it’s not even as big as everyone thinks it is btu we all have opinions

    • @SupaaBroly
      @SupaaBroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why do u guys wanna buff a busted character so bad this nerf was the best thing to ever happen to this game

    • @astro-thegod4797
      @astro-thegod4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SupaaBroly I would say the wraith nerf was the best thing to happen but nah the reason is because people think it’s directly overly nerfing his ult, I do agree it’s not a bad nerf btu nerfing a ult where it’s to a point it take 20 seconds to kill which I don’t think it last that long right? Cna be seen as overly nerfing a character, also to further defend my point the wraith nerf made it so it’s a auto you can’t kill me card it made her more balanced and didn’t mate it too bad tbh

  • @wodstalker2819
    @wodstalker2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    He definitely got a lot weaker. Yesterday the last guy alive in the ennemy squad was a caustic, he ulted himself and put lots of traps to try to revive his mate... I just pushed him through gas and was completely fine

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah I recently stopped playing him as a main since season 0. I only tolerated the way he used to be bc it was season 0. But now? The way he is now doesn’t work with how the game is in its current state

    • @nicomuller5367
      @nicomuller5367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zzodysseuszz same. Those old days when you still took normal damage, cuz the 15% damage reduction wasnt there yet.

    • @astro-thegod4797
      @astro-thegod4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I see no difference and still do good, honestly is not like he’s destroyed he hasn’t his ult isn’t every aspect of him but yet again his gas is, it’s suits it much better it’s area denial of sorts if used correctly plus I think it fits his ult more since portable gas with the same dps as his tactical is kinda op as it was before, but yet. Again we all have different experiences and opinions so if that’s how you feel it’s still valid cuase it can be taken both ways.

    • @wodstalker2819
      @wodstalker2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@astro-thegod4797 I mean i do agree that he still has some kind of usefullness, but where i feel like it was probably a bit too extreme of a nerf is that although it his gas (both ult and barrels) are acting as, like you said, area denial... Now i feel like if you know the ennemy team is damaged, you can just push through the gas to finish them off without really having to be concerned about the damage you will take. I think 6 or 7 per tick would be a bit more fair...
      And this is the point of view of someone who never plays caustic and has been cursing over how op he was untill this nerf

    • @astro-thegod4797
      @astro-thegod4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wodstalker2819 ya raising it up would be fair but as where I’m standing I’m pretty fine with it, I’m not complaining. Btu everyone has their sides on this matter and I can respect it cuase it can be seen both ways, it doesn’t prevent people from pushing a and honestly I think his tactical does a better job of doing it I think his ult was never suppose to be a a thing where it could guarantee a red or. Heal but rather something used to push or a deterrent of sorts.

  • @basilmelon3814
    @basilmelon3814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    They should add back the blinding effect since they needed the damage.

    • @Colossal322
      @Colossal322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Been saying bro. Agreed

    • @JohnDoe-hf1xu
      @JohnDoe-hf1xu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeessss 100% agree

    • @LordOmniTha1st
      @LordOmniTha1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Add blinding and slow effect and I'll be cool with the nerf or make the gas bigger

    • @eddieisverygay7937
      @eddieisverygay7937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No

    • @LordOmniTha1st
      @LordOmniTha1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@eddieisverygay7937 yeah

  • @josephvelez4924
    @josephvelez4924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    5:57 could be in a trailer.

    • @AlienX281
      @AlienX281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Get out of my head

    • @josephvelez4924
      @josephvelez4924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Zeekvo not really. when i saw it i actually thought that i could be in a trailer. then after i posted the comment i saw the similar one.

    • @autisticturtle8716
      @autisticturtle8716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a fucking trailer

    • @josephvelez4924
      @josephvelez4924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Zeekvo ok. i really don't care if you don't believe me lol. have a good night!

    • @bobbyjones2397
      @bobbyjones2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zeekvo youre weird

  • @slaminval
    @slaminval 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Caustic gas if it isn’t ramping up it should be a consistent damage of 7 or 8 hp per tick.

  • @ElBrujo1998
    @ElBrujo1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Dude they just don’t respect the gas anymore..time to let caustic get some rest

    • @sugarpine5839
      @sugarpine5839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Watch them buff it

    • @0001captainawesome
      @0001captainawesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just started maining him again a couple of weeks ago for the first time since season 0 or 1 and was having alot a fun and doing great. Went from bronze IV to plat in a 2 days. And now the fun is already over.

    • @ElBrujo1998
      @ElBrujo1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@0001captainawesome our time to shine will come back, caustic bro

    • @ElBrujo1998
      @ElBrujo1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sugarpine5839 well they said they were testing it out, and so hopefully you’re right

    • @0001captainawesome
      @0001captainawesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElBrujo1998 I hope so man because pathfinder was my main 'till season 3 or 4, I kept holding out that they would undo the nerfs but instead he just got more and more. They nerfed him like 6 seasons in a row, I'm hoping they don't do the same with caustic because they already nerfed his gas at the beginning of the season also.

  • @lumzy8421
    @lumzy8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    6:50, when the lifeline ran into the gas i really got some "when the you get hit with the dollar store pepper spray" vibes

  • @obstinatewallaby4016
    @obstinatewallaby4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    is it me or does 5:58 look like something from an apex trailer

    • @konouji7559
      @konouji7559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      frl

    • @altoid3453
      @altoid3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing that didnt look like it was the slide. Trailers dont have quick sliding

  • @dracowrath3555
    @dracowrath3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    You can walk into a castic trap or box grenade and pop a med kit before you even feel threatened by the gas.

    • @jonathantyomkin9380
      @jonathantyomkin9380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One Syringe and it won't kill you if you have full health

    • @dracowrath3555
      @dracowrath3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathantyomkin9380 wow... I get caustic was strong and probably needed a nerf but that's a bit much. It bothers me how caustic found this awesome new toxin and he somehow gets weaker...

    • @Ex0rz
      @Ex0rz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it now takes 20 seconds to deal 100 damage with the gas.... Popping a medkit only takes 8 seconds so thats only 40 damage... Does the gas even last for 20 seconds? :D

    • @steeldragon5730
      @steeldragon5730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ex0rz the gas does not last long enough, ult or barrel for it to 100-0 someones HP, even 3 barrels next to eachother all going off at the same time, adding their extra 1 dmg per barrel will not kill a person but leave them like 1 hit (in Hp not shields)

    • @NotASuspicousPerson
      @NotASuspicousPerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steeldragon5730 Well the thing is, no abilities are meant to kill a player by themselves (at least not tactical abilities). Respawn has stated that it's meant to be primarily shooting game, not throw down an ability to automatically win just because the situation made it so.
      This is on top of the fact that Caustic is literally the only character that isn't negatively impacted by his own abilities.
      So Caustic before: Able to kill a player with nothing but his abilities in a reasonable amount of time, and not negatively impacted by his abilities at all.
      The only buff Caustic really needs after this nerf is to make his gas block vision more.

  • @Mclovin447
    @Mclovin447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    7:24 notice how kandy moves his head as he freakes out with the mouse LMFAO

  • @hermes_job_observer144
    @hermes_job_observer144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    17:00: Kandy: "How you doing?"
    Pathy: "More friends are coming to kill us, there's another squad."

  • @daddydiesel7177
    @daddydiesel7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think they should buff the damage and make it more blinding

    • @13kstacks
      @13kstacks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imposter diesel

    • @xedim
      @xedim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No

    • @daddydiesel7177
      @daddydiesel7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@xedim Ok horizon main

    • @cybertronicgamer9589
      @cybertronicgamer9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daddydiesel7177 and that guy probably use to be a Wraith main when she had OP abilities at the start xD

    • @daddydiesel7177
      @daddydiesel7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also by buff damage I don’t mean crazy amounts make it 5 and ticks up to 8 and make gas more blinding or give him a passive

  • @zzodysseuszz
    @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    0:29 this kept happening to me so I stopped playing caustic

    • @SirrSmirksalot
      @SirrSmirksalot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      People would do that before sometimes as well, but at least it would PUNISH them for it. Now, people just don’t care. Shit, I don’t care either, half the time. I’ll hesitate at first but then I’ll remember “Oh yeah, it’s just a cloud of green cotton candy now”

    • @NotASuspicousPerson
      @NotASuspicousPerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SirrSmirksalot That part, honestly find the reaction of "he just stood in my gas" bit overly dramatic there. The dude took 2 ticks of damage then left the gas. Even pre-nerf what was that a 6 and a 7 for a total of 13 damage? Compared to 10?

  • @matildalarsson6326
    @matildalarsson6326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I miss playing on world's edge 😞

    • @crisb.4242
      @crisb.4242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same 😢

    • @lvp_editz6563
      @lvp_editz6563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@crisb.4242 not me😢

    • @2legsterry
      @2legsterry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @heisernsu
      @heisernsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea dude capital city was the best (maybe not for you guys but for me at least)

    • @senseimonte
      @senseimonte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I miss it too

  • @flashburn9618
    @flashburn9618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I stopped playing caustic after this nerf, he's been my main for a long time

    • @RTA_REAPER
      @RTA_REAPER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same bro using ,Bangalore now

    • @tommasopalagonia102
      @tommasopalagonia102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using it, i think the EA buffed him in the next update

    • @astraha.
      @astraha. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still using Caustic because I believe that he gets buffed again.

    • @SupaaBroly
      @SupaaBroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good that character was terribly busted

    • @SupaaBroly
      @SupaaBroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good that character was terribly busted

  • @hotshotawb3923
    @hotshotawb3923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I feel like they are going to nerf the volt soon. It's so good

    • @Bozoalert82
      @Bozoalert82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They already did

    • @megakid32d
      @megakid32d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The 1 dammage nerf

    • @Degwert
      @Degwert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But compared to so many other guns, it’s just solid

    • @Degwert
      @Degwert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Rather have an 2301, r99, spitfire, and maybe a flatline before, doesn’t help that group energy ammo is non existant

    • @p0oka261
      @p0oka261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most people find the r99 and even the Eva better so I doubt it

  • @lukepoomba
    @lukepoomba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Went on your channel and saw five minutes ago and it made my day

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah? Well it made ME cry. Are you happy?

    • @a_guy_named_alex1937
      @a_guy_named_alex1937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buncha Simps.

    • @jojje3149
      @jojje3149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And i saw 5hrs ago

    • @ihateyou1379
      @ihateyou1379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heavenly2k What

  • @bradysergot8502
    @bradysergot8502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I opened one event pack and got that sick caustic skin and since then I’ve been playing him quite a bit. Feel like his ult should be 3 minutes and the damage should go from 5 to 9 or 10. The gas should be a threat and right now it feels like a fart in their face

  • @supaipai420
    @supaipai420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    d000d Kandy teh whole point of the buff with Caustic was to put pressure onto the Sweats to make them not push like they are doing now and before the buff. The Devs said they wanted to make him and Wattson a Threat and not Push Overs! The Devs pandered too the Sweats/Pros because they thought Caustic was the issue when it was really the Mastiff. Now Caustic is back to square one which is not good for Caustic Mains and the Trap House. You can have Wattson carry the ult accells

  • @longwoolcoat2266
    @longwoolcoat2266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    How much did Respawn pay you to say the nerf wasn't that bad?

  • @true_vengali8243
    @true_vengali8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Kandy you should try to win a game using only grenades, that would be interesting

    • @fbiiswatchinyou1234
      @fbiiswatchinyou1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      some on did this with only ark stars a while back i think it was zylbrad

    • @zuhayrhannan9484
      @zuhayrhannan9484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fbiiswatchinyou1234 it was

    • @mathewcleaver9785
      @mathewcleaver9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gaming merchant just did this with fuse

    • @imcher6301
      @imcher6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooor win without walking ?

  • @qtvoid4687
    @qtvoid4687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    18:47 he really tried to hide that voice crack

  • @ancientbuns6770
    @ancientbuns6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The gas just makes the air taste funny, it can’t hurt ya

  • @supreme782
    @supreme782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:00 Glenn out here making a whole Apex trailer shot. 😂

  • @MULAYOUTUBE
    @MULAYOUTUBE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    11:07 perfect timing

  • @InsulinRunner
    @InsulinRunner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Knowing Caustic traps only do 5 damage per second means when a caustic that has no shields tries to escape into his many gas traps I literally walk through them to kill him. He no longer has any defense. The traps and his grenade are comparable to being stuck in 2nd ring. It deters people who don't know how weak it is, to everyone else it's like spraying water at a grizzly bear.

  • @TheEnigma271
    @TheEnigma271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like ppl aren’t considering the map. Wasn’t caustic buffed during a worlds edge or Olympus rotation? Of course he’s going to be OP on kings canyon but he’s going to seem a lot weaker on Olympus

  • @Spank9877
    @Spank9877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They also nerfed both Bang and Caustic smoke, so its even easier to see through now. It doesn't feel too good. I think his gas traps can remain 5 damage, since you can place up to 6 of them. But the ult needs to have a ramp. maybe 5-9, but something better than 5 damage. Having to wait 3:30 just to have another gas trap doesn't feel very "Ultimate"

  • @joshvanderbij4891
    @joshvanderbij4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Caustic, my main and a Legend that is supposed to deter people from pushing into an area, no longer deters people from pushing into an area. His gas is hardly more damaging than Bangalore's smoke right now, and even less see-through. On top of that they added a full minute to the Ult timer, and made his damage static to a measly 5 HP per second, which people can just heal through. His evil scientist demeanor is now more bark than bite because what makes Caustic threatening is now nothing more than a slight tickle you just shrug off. You're insane if you think this is a good nerf

  • @snazzypanther9014
    @snazzypanther9014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:20 "nani"😂

  • @leotuna7
    @leotuna7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    11:05 and this is why they're friends. 😂

  • @trixaint4kids13
    @trixaint4kids13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    hey kandy i have a question on to why i’m a level 20 player matching against people who are level 500 and more advanced than me is the matchmaking messing up or something because i’m starting to get tired of playing with people who have more experience than me

    • @pajalixd4016
      @pajalixd4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is normal apex matchmaking. The game is seted up to balance wins. (And it is working really bad)
      so if you are lvl 50 and you win 2 games in row you will get matched with predators. (maybe but possibly)

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pajalixd4016 yep this sounds about right. I win a game and get 7 kills and almost a 2k. It’s not my best but whether and then suddenly I’m getting into matches with people who have 28k kills

  • @sorarc9394
    @sorarc9394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    21:16 Literally my reaction when I read the patch notes..

  • @mariobarajas3385
    @mariobarajas3385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea. As a Caustic main, the 5 damage isn't what hits the hardest. It's that they removed the haze effect in his previous nerf and didn't re-add it to counteract the FAT nerf they gave him this time around. I had to switch to bloodhound lol.

  • @moh5540
    @moh5540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:50 damn is he a rapper ?

  • @di3sabledgaming615
    @di3sabledgaming615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That nerf just makes me sad

  • @nm_shxd0e332
    @nm_shxd0e332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    RIP Caustic

  • @P0ika6000
    @P0ika6000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:57 this felt like an Apex gameplay trailer :0

  • @PhishyMan
    @PhishyMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:39 how it feels to play Caustic

  • @AndrewPRoberts
    @AndrewPRoberts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:02 Okay that was good

  • @rixxy.66
    @rixxy.66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CONGRATS ON 600K KANDY

  • @BREADGOD-le2sl
    @BREADGOD-le2sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s most likely that some one push you in caustic gas than pushing in Bangalore smoke but he’s “fine” totally “fair” nerf

  • @slimskull2467
    @slimskull2467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For caustic it's easy
    If people aren't terrified of his gas cuz the damage is nothing...
    Buff the slow effect like a LOT
    So it would punish the teams who are trying to push you
    That would fit the "Defensive" type character

  • @connorrichards3515
    @connorrichards3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:48
    Shoots gas trap
    Kandy - did you shoot that?

  • @hermes_job_observer144
    @hermes_job_observer144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:05: He hit him through the snow. ❄🌨

  • @CraZyrious
    @CraZyrious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they should let gas damage stack, it makes sense that if you’re being hit by 2 canisters you receive twice the damage, it ain’t that easy to get people with more than 1 canister.

  • @mlk_ix2831
    @mlk_ix2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe a Little damage burst at the activation could do a lot

  • @fareezhuzair227
    @fareezhuzair227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kandy You should go for Diamond at least for this season to show case the Dive trail

  • @MudkipPog
    @MudkipPog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting proposal here. The gas could tick up from something low like 3 up to 10, but because of that long tick up it will remember the amount of ticks each player takes for around a couple minutes so they can't just back out of the gas and come back over and over to avoid the tick up.

  • @rafaelbrown8178
    @rafaelbrown8178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Caustics nerf makes no sense. He needed a nerf but this is ridiculous. Its like if you could stand in the middle gibbys ult and not have to move

  • @jonathantyomkin9380
    @jonathantyomkin9380 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gas should have the visual effects that make it harder to see in it, the Nox vision bug should be fixed and maybe make his ult do a concussion effect similar to the one that Bangalore ult does/be able to "stick" people with the ult if you hit them directly like with an arc star(the ult might require increased range if you will be able to stick it on players)/waaaaaayyyyy longer gas duration for traps and Caustic ult/Poison effect similar to the thermite burning effect but doesnt allow the player to use health heals while they are poisoned.
    Don't forget that the gas only tickles now so Caustic needs the gas to do some special effects/mechanics
    will that allow the ult to be easier to deal more dmg with.

  • @camilacontreras8741
    @camilacontreras8741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kandyrew there's a heat wave glitch and u can stay in storm all game but you have to be caustic

  • @jegantdragoch.7088
    @jegantdragoch.7088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its interesting that its also a semi scouting tool since you see the damage numbers and get info where the enemies are.
    honestly it does seem too much - thought it might be a flat 7 or 8 but certainly does not go up to the big 12 damage.
    on the other hand - if there's 2 gas cans going out at the same time could add damage on top of each other - that the 2nd one adds like half the max damage - from 5 up to 7.5 damage and even more with ulti gas. just a random example.

  • @fxit5598
    @fxit5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they should buff him and give him 3 min ult and gas from 6-12 to 5-10

  • @hermes_job_observer144
    @hermes_job_observer144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:00: oh, man...lol

  • @michaeldelaney1027
    @michaeldelaney1027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:37 how many people did he kill right there bc you can see two people go into the building, a person running that isn’t his teammate and a wraith in a phase

  • @nathlussx550
    @nathlussx550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:57 this has to be the trailer clip

  • @redwed6
    @redwed6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching you play Kandy is like watching those pre set up trailers for fps games where the player is just slowly aiming onto people and killing them with ease. It's definitely the way you slowly turn and acquire your targets with your less flick more track playstyle

  • @6wxjr
    @6wxjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly the nerf was a bit too much maybe despite disliking the character for myself. Maybe they up the damage a little 5>8.

    • @pajalixd4016
      @pajalixd4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They removed bad vision in his gas so you can see trought it like trought window. He is useless without its blinding effect and bad vision.

    • @b1_nkK.
      @b1_nkK. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pajalixd4016 if they add the blinding effect, it would be like bangalore's tactical with damage

  • @DxBlack
    @DxBlack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if I'm doing the gas damage right:
    OLD:
    6 ↓
    (+7) -> 13
    (+8) -> 22
    (+9) -> 30
    (+10) -> 40
    (+11) -> 51
    (+12) -> 63
    NEW:
    (5)
    (10)
    (15)
    (20)
    (25)
    (30)
    (45)
    For a loss of 18 damage over that equal range?
    It's still a substantial nerf overall, since anyone sticking around after that 7th tick previously would be [63]+12(75 total)+12(87 total)+etc which is far worse than another 5 from 45

  • @supermiaoumix
    @supermiaoumix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a caustic main since season 5, i just want to say that this is a BIG nerf. And he just become a bad legend. He lose he's capacity to defend a building efficently and you know he's terrible outside...
    In fact you can't kill with the gas now

    • @olafharoldsonnii4713
      @olafharoldsonnii4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the gas to revive my teammates and now I can’t do that anymore.
      He’s completely useless, players just walk right into the buildings

    • @supermiaoumix
      @supermiaoumix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olafharoldsonnii4713 yeah, caustic Loose a lot

    • @SoulshadeVr101
      @SoulshadeVr101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree been playing sense about last week of season 7 but he has basically zero utility now and isn't really a threat anymore

  • @Am4t3r4su
    @Am4t3r4su 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Caustic got turned into a meme in a single patch. Worse then his release state.
    No idea why they would nerf him THIS hard. His niche was holding buildings. The difference between him and wattson? was that he was just more fast paced then her in general and not as boring. Now? He is basically useless XD
    Gas doesn't block vision at all now. Damage won't kill anyone now. Ultimate is longer CD then ever before.
    I mean if the community hated him THAT much.. even when the devs said he wasn't that strong, then why did they nerf him this bad?
    No sense being made.

  • @LoligeSchlote
    @LoligeSchlote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i personally like the nerf, cuz caustics have to actually use their weapons now

    • @davidrich27
      @davidrich27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if gas amplified incoming damage like low profile instead? Then gas would still be dangerous, but actually require caustic to make a play.

    • @Nai_101
      @Nai_101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidrich27 interesting consept

  • @churros724
    @churros724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you forgot to address the fact that his gas is pretty much see through as well

  • @thewolf-xu3qi
    @thewolf-xu3qi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They nerfed him too bad it doesn't need that bad of a Nerf

  • @MasterPpv
    @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OK, I actually wanna try and analyze this, so I’m gonna make notes here about each fight and the usefulness of the gas. I’ll add comment replies for each fight. Please excuse me while I go through the video haha 😅
    First, the ult at 0:30 - The guy had only taken one tick of gas before he downed you, so I don’t think old gas would’ve helped you much in that fight to begin with. He took a second tick as you got downed, but past that he was already out of it. So old gas would have done 12 or 13 damage instead of 10 in that fight, and you would’ve already been downed by the second tick as well. I think the only reason he stayed in the gas for an extra tick to begin with there is that he had already cracked you and done some flesh damage. I would’ve done the same in his position, old gas or new.

    • @MasterPpv
      @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Second, the fight at 0:40 - he took 4 ticks, I believe. So 20 damage instead of... would it have been 30 in old gas? Either way, that 20 plus the show definitely contributed to him getting rekt there, but required at most one extra bullet on your part compared to old gas. At least, in terms of damage.
      In terms of the opponent’s play, they may have been more aggressive than they would have in the old gas, and pushed through where before you might have gotten a completely free revive as they waited it out. Not sure. However, it still slowed and discouraged them enough to where you got the revive off; it just forced you to interact while still in a disadvantageous position, which I think is actually fine. In old gas, you may have discouraged the team from pushing for long enough that you got time to not only get the revive off, but also pop a bat or med kit, or at least a cell or two, and I don’t really think that’s a good thing overall. I like that you were still able to get pushed there, but that they had to trade off some health in order to do it, which ended up costing them in the end.

    • @MasterPpv
      @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next fight that actually involved any gas, at 3:55 - gas was definitely a major contributor that fight. I think you did around 30 or 40 damage to that team with just gas, plus the slowdown heavily contributed to you getting the second kill and probably made it much harder for the third one to escape as well, leading to the full squad wipe. Obviously old gas would have done probably closer to 55-65 damage, maybe even up to 70, which I think would have felt a lot more oppressive. From this, I think the value of the gas is definitely shifting to be more heavily weighted on the slow, and it’s showing us just how powerful that slow has always been. That even with considerably less damage, the gas still basically enabled you guys to wipe that squad, primarily thanks to the slow.

    • @MasterPpv
      @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All righty, next up is 6:48 - you mentioned here that they didn’t care and stayed in the gas, but I actually think that was a huge mistake on their part. The Lifeline point the res drone on her downed teammate there and trying to play around its shield in the gas I think was a big mistake on her part. She took way more damage that way, both from the gas itself and because the slow made it so so so much easier for you to mow her down with the Devotion. And her teammate that she tried to res obviously just are all that gas damage for free lololol
      I think in that fight, the Lifeline actually should have respected the gas more, especially because she hasn’t done enough damage to you to justify staying in the gas like that. She made the wrong call and paid for it.

    • @MasterPpv
      @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay, next up, 7:24 - I’m not actually sure here because you threw the gas offscreen, and the person you fought wasn’t actually in it. So I’m not sure how much damage it did to the people that were offscreen, but obviously since you didn’t throw it at the guy in front of you, it didn’t affect your fight with him. Plus he kind of just shredded you XD
      It does look like even after you got downed it was still doing damage to at least some people, so it may have contributed (and probably did) to your teammate cleaning up that squad thanks to the added damage and slowdown. I just can’t tell how much.

    • @MasterPpv
      @MasterPpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next is 9:10 - I think you threw the ult in not quite the right spot there, so it didn’t do as much as it could have. Even with that, though, it still significantly contributed to the way that team was forced to move, the amount of damage they took, etc. and I think it was a major contributor in you guys winning that fight.

  • @hazelbot6399
    @hazelbot6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respawn said they were going to do something about his ultimate during the final ring, not nerf his entire kit. So yeah, they should change the nerf. Or just disable all ults during the finest ring to stop multiple problems instead of nerfing everyone.

  • @crazedsandninja
    @crazedsandninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a rev sitting in my ULT HEALING AND CHALLENGED ME AFTERWARDS THEY KILLED MY MAIN

  • @maundc1
    @maundc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a caustic Main, playing Olympus the other day we were up hill had an obvious advantage they went to push so I dropped my ult in front thinking it would slow them down at the minimum but no they all steam rolled through it, it did fuck all 😂

  • @BREADGOD-le2sl
    @BREADGOD-le2sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    O actually manage to get my 15th win this season with caustic after the nerf but it’s pretend that he’s unplayable just so we can get him buffed again.

  • @soerenheriksen
    @soerenheriksen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    rampart, caustic and wattson provide versions of area denial. They really bring a different type of engagement instead of the common armor crack -> push. These legends can absorb a push despite an armor crack and still come out on top if played well. I get why that is annoying to run-n-gun aggressive players but these legends are key to diverse engagements. Caustic receives a lot of grief because his abilities can be so annoying to play against whereas wattson and rampart don't feel as oppressive. I get why caustic needed a slight nerf but they really went overboard. If they wanted him out of the pro meta, they succeeded because he is played very little these days.

  • @michaelprice3040
    @michaelprice3040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They added more damage to compensate for removing gas blur but now the damage is even worse than before, so they literally just shat on Caustic.

  • @coryseavers2932
    @coryseavers2932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Caustic is just a non threat now it’s kinda depressing even before I always found caustic easy to deal with but now his gas can’t even do it’s primary job

    • @apples874
      @apples874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank Imperial Hal

    • @coryseavers2932
      @coryseavers2932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@apples874 who?

    • @cybertronicgamer9589
      @cybertronicgamer9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coryseavers2932 imparielHal is to blame for these nerfs he gets salty when a caustic kills him

  • @superchickenlips1
    @superchickenlips1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've played a lot of Apex. From day one in fact. There's still one thing I have never figured out; helmets. What do they actually, specifically do? What are the numbers and why don't they break like armor?

    • @superchickenlips1
      @superchickenlips1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mert No, I want to know numbers. I know they help for headshots, but how much hp does each one have? Why don't they break like armor? Why don't we have evo helmets? They are the only thing that isn't explained in game, and haven't changed since launch. And where do you spawn that you could be killed by headshot?

  • @shawnfromthebull6698
    @shawnfromthebull6698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really I’m a caustic main with over 4K kills i use the gas for disorientation or to make people back up the nerf really doesn’t do anything . It’s either your gonna back up or push through the gas. Bottom line depends on the player.

  • @theaverageperson8670
    @theaverageperson8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ring flares close when a ring finishes closing and it spawns close to squads. It keeps squads from camping at end.

  • @krustyelclown3516
    @krustyelclown3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that the gas must do at least 7-8 damage and for each damage inflicted with the gas the ultimate is refilled, I am not saying that 5 damage fills 10% but for every second that an enemy is in the gas it fills up by 1-2% the ultimate

  • @bundo-san
    @bundo-san 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda agree with appreciating the slow effects more now. Before I would take advantage of people trying to run out of the gas, but now I take advantage of people playing inside the gas lmao

  • @Mezoto10
    @Mezoto10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kandy I love watching your videos. You don't only post your wins, even when you lose games you still upload them.

  • @Ex0rz
    @Ex0rz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How hard did Caustic get nerfed? "Hes just standing in the gas!" sums it up pretty much. It now takes 20 seconds to get knocked by gas.... They could have just made the gas not knock people out or make it tick 7-8 damage per second. Now it feels completely useless.

  • @matbagnall3304
    @matbagnall3304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The point of Caustics gas is to give him an advantage if people are in it, which it still does. It slows them a lot and makes it hard for them to see while highlighting them to you as Caustic. Having high damage as well was just OP. Great nerf

  • @weirdchamp4601
    @weirdchamp4601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:42 rip I wanted to hear booms take on this

  • @playvideogames6867
    @playvideogames6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kandy: "better players will ignore the gas"
    Everyone in the channel: "ok from now on im ignoring the gas"...

  • @espiritu2757
    @espiritu2757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a fuse rush my 2 mates in a room with Q and my ult on top of it, he finished both, stood in, looted them, medkit after like 10 seconds whilst in the gas and got out.

  • @b7y425
    @b7y425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He is so NERFED now it’s not even funny I got stuck in a corner yesterday bc of a death box and a caustic threw his trap and his ultimate at me and I out healed with two medkits just siting in the gas the whole time

    • @BippleTack
      @BippleTack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should’ve pushed you, what an idiot

  • @altoid3453
    @altoid3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now caustics gas isnt damage its essentially a recon grenade since caustic gains vision on them.

    • @cybertronicgamer9589
      @cybertronicgamer9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do know the density of the gas has been nerfed alot? You can see him very clearly without going in it

  • @DillyPickle
    @DillyPickle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    His old gas was the best. 4 increase to 8/10 with an initial stun.

  • @Takeoverthebank
    @Takeoverthebank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apex makes no sense he didn’t need a nerf he was fine. Apex needs to stop buff and nerfing the legends and just have one meta that’s balanced permanently and just focus on maps, game modes and severs

  • @nazwaz11
    @nazwaz11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a religious caustic player I haved to say the nerf needs to be reverted or just a way weaker nerf. I have completely stopped playing caustic for this event and it pisses me off cause I love his new skin and his heirloom and just playing him in general

  • @Pariux
    @Pariux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hot take but I believe this change was good not because he needed the nerf but because it makes him more of a DEFENSIVE character. Prior to the nerf, most people would use Caustic as a way to get free damage on foes using his gas. Now you have to practically use it as a way to slow down a push and allow you and your teammates to stop the push. He's really good for keeping people from certain angles as well since they can't run through the gas as long as the caustic is shooting at the same time (Kandy does this multiple times with his ult). But if you're not looking at the gas then it's practically meaningless. This only adds more skill to Caustic when it comes to these defensive aspects.
    I'm glad that they made this change because they made him closer to other defensive characters such as Wattson and Rampart (Gibby doesn't count in my eyes because he excels at disengaging, not holding down a spot)

  • @tannerheadrick914
    @tannerheadrick914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:58 looks like it's from a trailer lol

  • @Taterisstig
    @Taterisstig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you nailed it on the head at the beginning, psychologically, the first few games I would pay passive against a caustic then I remembered it doesn't do as much damage and I was less afraid and I pushed harder.

  • @crispytrist7303
    @crispytrist7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CONGRATS ON 6k Kandy 🥳🥳

  • @rscars2149
    @rscars2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In this video you killed me, I was the downed Bangalore with the horizon in spotted lakes.