Thank you for explaining in such a way a causal fan can sorta understand. Where does the villain from justice league rank vs these two idk his name but basically looks like DC thanos
It would have been nice to see Thanos take on Apocalypse during the Thanos Wins series because I was always wondering why the Earth Villians are hardly ever shown putting up a fight against out of world threats...like Apolcalypse , Magneto, Doctor Doom , etc etc gonna let other people take over the world w/o saying /doing anything?
No seriously it’s like letting the kid from the other school come over and bully your nerds 😂 yes earth is a nerd but it’s dooms nerd begone thanos! That’s how it should be -JAY-
Their goals aren't the same. Its easier to destroy and Thanos does that well. Ironically, the mutant Apocalypse's mission is to build and develop. Because of this, it's difficult to ascertain a probable victor based on accomplishments.
You did bring out an interesting point. Apocalypse made his deal with the Celestials about Earth, so naturally the majority of his stories would be centered there as opposed to Thanos who mostly shows up in the off world stories.
I always thought Thanos was overrated and just continuously buffed over the years because Marvel had a big bad spot to fill. In his debut he was a clown flying around in a helicopter, but that was just how cheezy stories were back then. Apocalypse has always been my favorite villain, well written and his abilities are fairly well defined (instead of “what does the story need for him to win”). Great video, love your content.
Appreciate your comment and absolutely I’m glad you love the channel! And your right the thanos copter was crazy but did you see recently in the new thanos run they put thanos in a pick up truck ? lol -JAY-
I say Thanos even without the infinity stones. Galactus can one shot a celestial so he could still one shot apocalypse with celestial technology suit. Thanos sent Galactus flying (though probably not at full power) so he could ,i think hurt apocalypse
Yeah, Galactus may have won that fight with Thanos, but at the end, the big G looked like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone, and I'm a big fan of Galactus.
@@kimbelsimpson7535 Galactus and Magneto are my two favorite marvel characters. Kinda disappointed at the way Galactus has been written as a jobber. The Dr. strange series when Galactus basically destroyed everyone is how he should be written. A force of nature that can really absorb energy from anything
@Lj-md9ng Exactly because that's how I feel this is why I say if you can give Galactus a good fight or even manage to hurt him slightly, that's saying a whole lot about you in my book.
I always thought it was crazy that Thanos and apocalypse never met.. Considering the fact that there is a connection for both of them to the celestials. This would be the perfect time to create that story.
First off, love the channel! Keep making these, please! Second, Krakoan Era Apocalypse is canon and he’s been in Arakko, so I don’t think it’s fair to keep saying that he’s been limited due to being stuck on Earth. Also, feats are based on writing, as you eluded to. Which is not the character’s fault. If you compare characters based on powers, weaknesses, abilities, intelligence and flaws, there aren’t a lot of characters that would beat Apocalypse. All that said, I’m not saying you were wrong, I’m just bringing more to the table to discuss. Lastly, can we get a Blue Marvel vs. Icon??
First off appreciate your comments all of it and thank you for the support! Secondly when I say stuck on earth, apocalypse main mission is to advance the mutant race on earth therefore his focus never goes further than the mutants from the planet which i feel that is what limits him story wise. I think if they gave him another motive outside of mutant kinds survival of the fittest thing we could see some great stories!
Without the Gauntlet, it is a relatively even fight, with Apocalypse being a bit faster but Thanos being the better combatant. With the Gauntlet, it is no contest.
I want to say I saw a comic once where Thanos and his order were on a ship that had monitors with different characters he watches. I remember Apocalypse, Onslaught and Beyonder. If he watches them he must consider them a threat.
I’m going for Apocalypse because every time he decides to take over earth he actually wins on a high scale threat, which every villain does but they never win unless they warp Apocalypse did on different occasions
Just want to say I do love Apocalypse, but as you can probably tell from my icon, there was never any doubt that Thanos wins. For one thing, it's been shown that he has become more powerful than he was with the infinity gantlet. And, I believe it was that little clip you showed of him blasting "Galactus." I pretty sure that was the Galactus/Thanos hybrid clone that he created and had to put down. Supposedly, it had greater firepower than the original Galactus (but not today's Galactus). So, yeah, his feats are more impressive. Besides, how he obtained the infinity stones in the first place, by defeating the galactic Elders with just his own brains and brawn. Apocalypse is great and always has been, but Thanos was meant to be a character that gets everything he wants just to find out that it's not worth having. Apocalypse is about the survival of the fittest and the lessons that come with that line of thinking. Thanos is about the futility of winning everything, because then you have nothing to strive for. 🖖😎👍
Depends who's writing. Thanos is almost never fighting on his base level usually having some plan in play that adds some cosmic tech or power to fight people out of his league all the time.
That 90s animated Apocalypse was so illmatic, the X-men version was just DOOMED to failure. I mean, did they even know what he looked like??? Gods, it was awful…
@@gengeekfam ON TOP OF THAT! You got Oscar Isaac and THIS is what they had him saying??? THIS is what he looked like??? Gods X-men AND Star Wars PLAYED that man…
This would sound like the greatest Marvel Villain vs Villain battle of the century for sure. Yet Thanos will still win against Apocalypse because he has far more greater feats of battling opponents from all across the entire Marvel Universe and so far we still haven't seen Apocalypse do any of that stuff yet.
Love ya guys! I had a quick request PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a video on what happened to Ed Piskor. Its an important subject matter and its one that we should get into as purveyors and consumers of art. Is this the art world that we want to make and live in?
I just got the news and will DEFINITELY COMMENT on the next Solo Sayz soon as I gather more insight. Be it’s problematic and complex to say the least. -Doc Solo-
Your videos are mad dope, you got yourself a sub for real. What are the chances you do a video on the silver surfer. Like silver surfer vs exodus or even vulcan.
Just starting the video, but something to add to the caveat section: not sure how to make it equal as far as gear goes(certainly no Gauntlet) but Apocalypse does have his Celestial armor and technology improvements, whereas I don't think Thanos has any suit upgrades. That's just under the assumption of taking the two and tossing them at each other. Gonna watch the rest of the video and comment again!
I’m afraid im going have too say Apocalypse. I think we all know he would crush thanos like an aluminum can. He’s been around since ancient Egypt and he’s still stirring up shit . Thanos is just overrated. Apocalypse is the original mutant and has genetically engineered him self with a techno organic virus and has celestial technology enchantments. It is probably time for a cosmic throw down . Thanos is just a fan favourite, it’s all hype. Let alone the Shakespearen type Villain smack talking he can do . He’d Say something like ☝🏻“ All who toon Neal before shall be crushed by the weight of my will alone “ . He all ways has witty villains shit too say , where as thanos just stews in his own juices. It not that Apocalypse would smack thanos into the 5th dimension. He’s also got a high “Smack talk “ factor. And if you’re a Villain , you always have too have the better answer too shut up the nay sayer “ Goodie Goodies “. It’s not just about being the most powerful, it’s about having the lines that but fear into their hearts. “ I’m dealing out Second helpings of pain on the house, come and get some “ .
@@Alka-ow2bo If you had Apocalyps'es power of complete subatomic manipulation of ALL your own matter, you would be OP too. Apocalypse is also super intelligent but he fights stupidly in the comics. Together with his super intellect and subatomic particle control, he would be one of the most OP characters in all Marvel.
I side with Apocalypse. Thanos became way overrated way too fast for me. Apocalypse is a better character especially from his depiction in the animated series.
This isn't about Thanos.. Stan Lee would roll over in his grave knowing Nimrod killed Apocalypse.. Stan Lee would have Apocalypse destroying Nimrod and the Sentinals.. Apocalypse is on a level by himself and noway Nimrod could defeat Apocalypse..
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Thank you for explaining in such a way a causal fan can sorta understand. Where does the villain from justice league rank vs these two idk his name but basically looks like DC thanos
if your talking about darkseid which im guessing is what you mean... Darkseid is literally on a different plane of existence on his own!
Apocalypse is a far more interesting character....plus, he's not a simp😉😁💯
It would have been nice to see Thanos take on Apocalypse during the Thanos Wins series because I was always wondering why the Earth Villians are hardly ever shown putting up a fight against out of world threats...like Apolcalypse , Magneto, Doctor Doom , etc etc gonna let other people take over the world w/o saying /doing anything?
No seriously it’s like letting the kid from the other school come over and bully your nerds 😂 yes earth is a nerd but it’s dooms nerd begone thanos! That’s how it should be
-JAY-
true but it's funny seeing the villains help the heroes because they won't let others take over
I’m with Apocalypse homie
Their goals aren't the same. Its easier to destroy and Thanos does that well. Ironically, the mutant Apocalypse's mission is to build and develop. Because of this, it's difficult to ascertain a probable victor based on accomplishments.
Beautifully said!
-JAY-
You did bring out an interesting point. Apocalypse made his deal with the Celestials about Earth, so naturally the majority of his stories would be centered there as opposed to Thanos who mostly shows up in the off world stories.
100% thank you for your comment!
-JAY-
Thanos is an Eternal, and the Eternals always had Celestials technology as well. Thanos also seek knowledge for different realms and reality.
Apocalypse used to call him self the internals so that mean he’s beyond Mutants status , he’s god level like Thanos 💯
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I always thought Thanos was overrated and just continuously buffed over the years because Marvel had a big bad spot to fill. In his debut he was a clown flying around in a helicopter, but that was just how cheezy stories were back then. Apocalypse has always been my favorite villain, well written and his abilities are fairly well defined (instead of “what does the story need for him to win”). Great video, love your content.
Appreciate your comment and absolutely I’m glad you love the channel! And your right the thanos copter was crazy but did you see recently in the new thanos run they put thanos in a pick up truck ? lol
-JAY-
When did THANOS have a helicopter?
@@matthewschwartz6607the thanos copter
I say Thanos even without the infinity stones. Galactus can one shot a celestial so he could still one shot apocalypse with celestial technology suit. Thanos sent Galactus flying (though probably not at full power) so he could ,i think hurt apocalypse
Yeah, Galactus may have won that fight with Thanos, but at the end, the big G looked like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone, and I'm a big fan of Galactus.
@@kimbelsimpson7535 Galactus and Magneto are my two favorite marvel characters. Kinda disappointed at the way Galactus has been written as a jobber. The Dr. strange series when Galactus basically destroyed everyone is how he should be written. A force of nature that can really absorb energy from anything
@Lj-md9ng Exactly because that's how I feel this is why I say if you can give Galactus a good fight or even manage to hurt him slightly, that's saying a whole lot about you in my book.
GET UR GEEK ON 👍 ..
You know it chuck!
-JAY-
Can we talk about how Thanos played Mephisto for a fool and scared him off? Thanos is pure ICE!
I always thought it was crazy that Thanos and apocalypse never met..
Considering the fact that there is a connection for both of them to the celestials.
This would be the perfect time to create that story.
Both of their philosophy would mesh so well too!
First off, love the channel! Keep making these, please!
Second, Krakoan Era Apocalypse is canon and he’s been in Arakko, so I don’t think it’s fair to keep saying that he’s been limited due to being stuck on Earth.
Also, feats are based on writing, as you eluded to. Which is not the character’s fault. If you compare characters based on powers, weaknesses, abilities, intelligence and flaws, there aren’t a lot of characters that would beat Apocalypse.
All that said, I’m not saying you were wrong, I’m just bringing more to the table to discuss.
Lastly, can we get a Blue Marvel vs. Icon??
First off appreciate your comments all of it and thank you for the support!
Secondly when I say stuck on earth, apocalypse main mission is to advance the mutant race on earth therefore his focus never goes further than the mutants from the planet which i feel that is what limits him story wise. I think if they gave him another motive outside of mutant kinds survival of the fittest thing we could see some great stories!
And we have to give blue marvel a break 😭 we’ve put him against gladiator and sentry already but he will make an appearance soon i can feel it!
-JAY-
@@gengeekfam Hands down my favorite "new" character and a great example of how to add someone to cannon right.
@@gengeekfamyeah. I understand that. It’s a writer’s problem. We need Al Ewing to do an Apocalypse book.
He’s weakened now though, isn’t he? I never bought him being on an X-team.
My money is on Thanos every time with or without the Infinity Gauntlet.
Without the Gauntlet, it is a relatively even fight, with Apocalypse being a bit faster but Thanos being the better combatant. With the Gauntlet, it is no contest.
I want to say I saw a comic once where Thanos and his order were on a ship that had monitors with different characters he watches. I remember Apocalypse, Onslaught and Beyonder. If he watches them he must consider them a threat.
Beyonder is stronger than all of them combined
I know the exact issue i believe he had hulk on his monitor too it was an early 2000s issue but can’t pinpoint which one
@gengeekfam if you could figure it out please let me know!
I’m going for Apocalypse because every time he decides to take over earth he actually wins on a high scale threat, which every villain does but they never win unless they warp Apocalypse did on different occasions
Oh love High Evon.
Too Cool for words!! Great Video!!
Gen Geek will u do another Apocalypse video since the Heir of Apocalypse story is finished now? We need more Apoc highlights!
Yea i have to read through it accurately again i know cypher got a new upgrade but i have to check the feats out!
-JAY-
Just want to say I do love Apocalypse, but as you can probably tell from my icon, there was never any doubt that Thanos wins. For one thing, it's been shown that he has become more powerful than he was with the infinity gantlet. And, I believe it was that little clip you showed of him blasting "Galactus." I pretty sure that was the Galactus/Thanos hybrid clone that he created and had to put down. Supposedly, it had greater firepower than the original Galactus (but not today's Galactus).
So, yeah, his feats are more impressive. Besides, how he obtained the infinity stones in the first place, by defeating the galactic Elders with just his own brains and brawn.
Apocalypse is great and always has been, but Thanos was meant to be a character that gets everything he wants just to find out that it's not worth having. Apocalypse is about the survival of the fittest and the lessons that come with that line of thinking. Thanos is about the futility of winning everything, because then you have nothing to strive for. 🖖😎👍
Celestial armor, Hard to hurt.
Depends who's writing. Thanos is almost never fighting on his base level usually having some plan in play that adds some cosmic tech or power to fight people out of his league all the time.
That 90s animated Apocalypse was so illmatic, the X-men version was just DOOMED to failure. I mean, did they even know what he looked like??? Gods, it was awful…
No seriously what of a waste of such a good actor like Oscar Isaac.
-JAY-
@@gengeekfam ON TOP OF THAT! You got Oscar Isaac and THIS is what they had him saying??? THIS is what he looked like??? Gods X-men AND Star Wars PLAYED that man…
Cool channel! I'm going with Thanos.
You know your stuff. Good shit!
Yes He does!! Thank you for the encouragement friend! -Solo-
I'm learning more and more thank you for this breakdown homie 😎🤔
Glad to be of service brother! Appreciate your support!
-JAY-
This would sound like the greatest Marvel Villain vs Villain battle of the century for sure. Yet Thanos will still win against Apocalypse because he has far more greater feats of battling opponents from all across the entire Marvel Universe and so far we still haven't seen Apocalypse do any of that stuff yet.
Apocalypse all day.
I love him too 😢
-JAY-
Hes my pick over these 2.
😂
Lmao never
Love ya guys! I had a quick request PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a video on what happened to Ed Piskor. Its an important subject matter and its one that we should get into as purveyors and consumers of art. Is this the art world that we want to make and live in?
I just got the news and will DEFINITELY COMMENT on the next Solo Sayz soon as I gather more insight. Be it’s problematic and complex to say the least. -Doc Solo-
12:05-They had The Phoenix Force when they destroyed planets.
Thanos is celestial technology!
Your videos are mad dope, you got yourself a sub for real. What are the chances you do a video on the silver surfer. Like silver surfer vs exodus or even vulcan.
Great video! 👍
Just starting the video, but something to add to the caveat section: not sure how to make it equal as far as gear goes(certainly no Gauntlet) but Apocalypse does have his Celestial armor and technology improvements, whereas I don't think Thanos has any suit upgrades. That's just under the assumption of taking the two and tossing them at each other. Gonna watch the rest of the video and comment again!
For the last 30+ years, I've asked this question. "Who would win in a fight, between Thanos and Apocalypse?" :) Glad to see a video about it.
For now! Who knows they may send Apocalypse of planet then we may have to do a round 2!
-JAY-
I’m afraid im going have too say Apocalypse. I think we all know he would crush thanos like an aluminum can. He’s been around since ancient Egypt and he’s still stirring up shit . Thanos is just overrated. Apocalypse is the original mutant and has genetically engineered him self with a techno organic virus and has celestial technology enchantments. It is probably time for a cosmic throw down . Thanos is just a fan favourite, it’s all hype. Let alone the Shakespearen type Villain smack talking he can do . He’d Say something like ☝🏻“ All who toon Neal before shall be crushed by the weight of my will alone “ . He all ways has witty villains shit too say , where as thanos just stews in his own juices. It not that Apocalypse would smack thanos into the 5th dimension. He’s also got a high “Smack talk “ factor. And if you’re a Villain , you always have too have the better answer too shut up the nay sayer “ Goodie Goodies “. It’s not just about being the most powerful, it’s about having the lines that but fear into their hearts. “ I’m dealing out Second helpings of pain on the house, come and get some “ .
Apocalypse is probability 4k yrs older than Thanos.
Thanos without the the I.G, Apocalypse wins.
Honestly they are literally almost the same character! I like Apocalypse more but it’s obvious Thanos would win.
Thanos stomps lol its not even close.
I know 😭 hopefully a change is to come in en saba nurs future!
Apocalypse should be better but , he isn't ATM
@@Marinanor Thanos is insanely op in the Comics. Apocalypse doesn't compare...
@@Alka-ow2bo If you had Apocalyps'es power of complete subatomic manipulation of ALL your own matter, you would be OP too. Apocalypse is also super intelligent but he fights stupidly in the comics. Together with his super intellect and subatomic particle control, he would be one of the most OP characters in all Marvel.
@@Marinanor The people who have killed apocalypse can't kill Thanos but you can say subatomic manipulation all you want lol
Yeah we've not gotten much on Apocalypse, so yeah its the writers fault.
I think apocalypse would hand mandlle T dog 💯. If it was fist ta cuffs I give it to T dog. As far as powers apocalypse definitely comes out on top .
Apocalypse all day
I side with Apocalypse. Thanos became way overrated way too fast for me. Apocalypse is a better character especially from his depiction in the animated series.
Hey guys please help me. Is this the right power rank of the villians?
DOOM < Thanos < Apocalypse
A time ago i would’ve put thanos beofee doom but after secret wars two I’ll def say that is the correct power ranking!
-JAY-
Apac loses. Thanos is what Apac would be if he was a cosmic being.
He means Eternal not External😂
I mean to me thanos is just spave apocolypse
Thanos is a galactic threat, Apocolypes is an Earthbound threat. And Thanos being a mutant is interesting.
This isn't about Thanos.. Stan Lee would roll over in his grave knowing Nimrod killed Apocalypse.. Stan Lee would have Apocalypse destroying Nimrod and the Sentinals.. Apocalypse is on a level by himself and noway Nimrod could defeat Apocalypse..
thanos would body apocolypse, probably not easy but it would happen.
when you lay out the facts, i still think thanos takes it but a much harder fight.
Experience wins.
What is with the Pinoy flag in the background? You live here?
Jay is married to my INCREDIBLE daughter in love who is Filipino & he played pro basketball there for a stretch. -Doc Solo-
@@gengeekfam - Ah... thank you for your reply. Wonderful :)
Agree
Apocalypse is not on thanos league nor in intellectual
A. Is immensely strong and high energy output and hard to hurt
Thanos!
Thanoss would dog walk apocalypse!!
😭