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- Time is running out to get in on the direct pre-orders at below retail pricing for the Mythic Legions Necronominus action figure wave. The window closes Sunday, January 15th, 2023, at 11pm EST. But fear not, if you miss out on the direct pre-order there will be plenty of shops for the standard retail price. I cover all this info as well as my own plans for the wave IN THE DORKLAIR!
00:00 Intro
02:25 Standard Figures
04:27 Deluxe Figures
06:11 Big Figures
06:47 Accessory Packs
07:02 All In
08:14 Two Pack
10:55 Retailer Pricing
13:46 Direct vs Retail
20:42 My own pre-order
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lol this guy must run a store, you could pre order this like 2 months ago straight from the source.
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video LMAO.
That’s literally what the whole video is about. And it’s full of great information to help you plan your purchase… straight from the source.
Hi from western MA. New collector here, thank you so much for the breakdown. Still pondering what to preorder. Necronominus faction really speaks to me [a winged LICH on a skeleton horse, oh hells yes!!!] glad I discovered these figures in time to catch this wave! Thanks for showing Gideon and Elijah without the soft goods, hadn't seen that before.
Definitely going to be a regular viewer of your channel.
My roots are in Western MA as well! Cheers and welcome!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hasn't preordered yet
Trust me, there are TONS of us!
Man, thank you so much for this video! I'm a first time buyer of Mythic Legions after admiring them from afar for a while and this is exactly the type of info I was hoping to stumble across. You always do such an amazing job with your channel and I really am appreciative for it. Plus you have such a genuine personality and I can easily tell that you really do enjoy what you do. You are definitely one of the things that I consider a wise decision of 2022 that I subscribed to your TH-cam channel and follow you on IG. Happy New Year, and again, many thanks! May the force ALWAYS be with you
Wow Paul, thank you so much man!
Same here I agree with everything above and he’s helped me as well. My always go to when I’m unsure about Legions and funds. Genuine
@@danielmilliken8903 That's great to hear Daniel, thank you!
@@DorkLair Mr DorkLair 🤘🏼 Iv got half giant coming but do I need the accessory pack (Viking horns head shield) like is it a must have for him or no? What’s your thoughts thank u
Honestly your best video. I hope to see more content like this.
Thank you! Means a lot, I put some hours into this one!
My finger’s been hovering over the place order button for weeks!
I hope this video helps!
I'm glad I'm not the only one waiting until the last minute to place my orders. XD
Shipping to UT from NJ can be rough, but for the All-In it's like $25, which doesn't seem terrible.
the complication is in ordering the extras I want for kit-bashing. You never know when adding one little thing will jump shipping up from $15 to $35.
Like you, I was considering doing 2 All-Ins, but back when Cosmic Legions Wave 1 was up for pre-order I didn't know which ones I would want extras of so I got 2 All-Ins and I have regretted it pretty much every single day (because MY MONEY, WHERE DID IT ALL GO?! And then I'll have to sell or trade the extras I don't need for the ones I do.)
So I have taken the last many weeks to determine I really only want extras of the undead figures. I will order an All-In this week, and last week I placed my order for all the extras:
1x Sir Elijah, who will go without the soft-goods, as the new knight parts look great and deserve to be displayed.
3x Undead Legion Builder, because while I only liked one of the zombie heads, I need all the ghosts I can get, so I plan to put the ghostly Hagnon head on one (so including the one from the All-In I'll have 1 zombie and 3 ghosts).
Finally, 3 Maxillius, cuz I need to sprinkle the new skeleton parts amongst my existing skelly kit-bashes (and make new ones, of course). this one seems like the most versatile of the figures for the kit-bashes I tend to make.
And then as funds allow while they're available at retail prices, I may grab a couple more here or there, Elijah and maybe Gideon, for more mix-and-match knight parts, and maybe another Turpiculus, because so cool looking. And probably more skeletons, because I'm a sucker for the skeletons in this line.
Great vid mate, very helpful and spot on with your analysis . It’s $720 U.S. for the All-in to get to Australia, shipping cost is very steep indeed. The major retailers do have pretty decent shipping rates, but they still charge taxes etc. so yeah, while you may not be saving that much by getting the All-in pre-order direct, for me personally, I still think it is worth it ! This will be my first All-in and I can’t wait for it ! 💀👍
Even when the price is a push I still lean toward direct because you will probably get it earlier.
Thank you for the clear details. This wave is very strong. Sucked me back in, i havent bought any legions in a good while.
MVP as usual. Great video!
Thanks for this 🍻🙏🏽👑
My pleasure!!
I love Mythics but I'll never get used to how long the wait is for them, at least they never disappoint. Getting most of this wave, not all though.
Agree but not buying more until I get my last order.
In fact that video's breakdown is helpful for any wave released by 4H. That breakdown section on its own could be a seperate video
I went with Horse and Rider box set, 2 Turpiculi, 2 Undead Builders, 2 bone hands and feet, and 1 knight hands. I could have ordered a few more, but I want to save for either another reinforcements wave, or the deluxe legion builder stock sale. I think I remember Chris saying shipping is also dependent on what size box they have to use. Shipping on a five basic figure order will be lot more than on a 4 figure order, because they have to bump it up to the next size box. Or something like that.
Great info, thankyou brother Bill! So many great parts & pieces from this new wave for my Goblins! :)
My pleasure thanks for watching and commenting!
Such a great video thank you for this! First time buyer of mythic legions so this is beyond needed for me
AWESOME! Glad to hear it. You were exactly who I had in mind as I was making this vid.
Great content as always, Bill! Thanks for putting this together!
Thanks Nate!
Good video DorkLair. I'm fairly new with Mythic Legions. The Illthyia wave was my first. I'm kind of a pick and choose collector, so no all in for me. I ordered 2 figures when the preorder opened, 2 more last month, and will get Necronominus this week. I'm good without the horses or the other deluxe figures. With shipping and tax, you come out at about the same ordering direct or preordering somewhere else .. $45 direct (shipping+tax) and between $50 - $55 when preordering elsewhere. So you would save some money ordering direct and putting up the money up front. Yeah, you broke that all down, good video, appreciate it man.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Bill, I've fallen into the Cosmic and Mythic black hole. One topic nobody seems to cover in their preview videos is the secret sauce behind purchase choices. A seasoned collector might choose to buy 5 of one figure and only 1 of another... what's the reason? What knowledge from past waves is playing into these future decisions? Better bucks? Higher historic resale value? I would be fascinated by such a discussion among long time Mythic collectors.
A lot has to do with custom potential.
@@JoseSanchez-fu9cy thanks for the reply. I got the sense that this is the case for many of the hardcore folks, fodder for swapping and customs vs resale potential.
Neca just Thanos snapped my Necronominus wave. Stan Sakai exclusive Usagi
That Ogre is awesome
For me, a few of the best things I look at when ordering is realistically what figures I want and can comfortably display, and how much can I afford to spend. There are some "must have" figures that are must-buy no questions asked (Sir Gideon 2). There are others that I consider "bonus" figures that would be great to have, but not essential to my personal collection (Undead Builder Pack). From there, I have to make the hard choice of how many figures can I get from this particular wave and my rule of thumb is if it's 3 items or more buy from 4H. For where I live, that's the most affordable. If I'm only buying 1 or 2 figures like in the Poxxus wave, it was better for me to buy through a retailer because the price was comparable. For example, I only wanted Zende and Thriaice from the Poxxus wave which would've cost me about $98.00 from 4H which I did not have at that time. However, I can purchase it from BBTS and the difference would only be about $10.00 more with shipping and tax and I could probably save 4 bucks if I ordered from Mallfish.com.
Awesome video ! Thanks to you and Jeremy Girard. I started collecting Mythic Legions in 2022. I even went to Legions Con in November, and it was awesome. I live in Puerto Rico, which its a US territory, and I was surprised when I found out that the all-in shipping charges is $ 124. I know that 3 day shipping is expensive, but Puerto Rico is not an international destination. According to somebody who lives in Australia, he will pay $ 150 for all-in shipping. That is about the same amount of money for shipping to Puerto Rico.
It is a shame that Storehorsemen doesn't have regular shipping like BBTS. I wouldn't mind waiting another 10-12 days to get my all in. I believe that BBTS would charge me about $40-45, and I would have to wait around 10-12 days to get the items. This will be the first time that I will not go all-in since I started buying from Storehorsemen in 2022. I will wait till Sunday to order, and I will buy all the knights, including the Ogre ( around 3 per knights). Also, I will buy the 2 pack with Necronominus, the horse for the knight, the Deluxe figure with the daughter, and maybe the Deluxe Skeleton. If I am not mistaken, I would pay around $ 75 for shipping.
My main goal is to army build my knights army, but I won't be able to buy as many knights as I was planning to do due to the shipping costs, but I will be happy to get 12 new knights for my army , including the Ogre. Knights are my favorites . After the knights, I love Barbarians, vampires, ogres and orcs.
As of today, most of the Mythic Legions retailers, including Storehorsemen, don't charge me for taxes. I am lucky, because sales taxes in Puerto Rico are probably the highest in the nation. We pay 11.5 %.
Wow. That shipping is nuts. And the fact that 4HM is simply using the carrier calculations means that whichever carrier it is (USPS probably?) is charging insane amounts for shipping. Such a shame.
@@DorkLair Yes, I noticed that USPS was charging more when I ordered the all-in Trolls. Both Trolls might weight about 2 pounds each, and they charged me $ 75 for 3 days shipping. I believe that USPS is charging me International prices because shipping to Australia is about the same price. It is disappointing, but I won't get the all in. As I stated before, my main goal was to buy as many knights as possible. I was considering to buy about 10 Sir Elijah . because the knights, specially the Templar Knights, are my favorites but 3-day shipping to Puerto Rico is too expensive.. I wish the 4H had the option of Parcel Post, which its cheaper than 3 day shipping. With your video, I will be able to compare numbers to see what I can buy from 4H, and what I can buy from any other retailer. I will definitely buy at least 12 knights, including the ogre. Thank you for responding my message and thank you for your video. By the way, I hope that you don't mind the personal question, but what do you teach. I am an Elementary school teacher in Puerto Rico. I teach English as a second language.
@@DorkLair Perhaps the difference between BBTS and 4HS in terms of USPS shipping is the 12-14 days vs 1-3 days options respectively. I agree that direct is a great choice and the only major criteria is having the cash and the shipping cost. If 4HS offered a slower and cheaper USPS option, decision would be easier. Right now I have 6 Star wars black series and 14 Mythic legions in my BBTS POL and the shipping is only $29.50 USPS standard shipping. Needless to say BBTS packaging is awesome and never have any issues. Interesting that adding multiple Undead Builder packs directly bumps the shipping no mater what you already have in the cart.
Long comment, sorry. Just following up the conversation. Thanks again.
@@raymondvjr7747 Oh nice, a fellow teacher! I teach English Language Arts at the High School level.
I want to do an ALL-IN but just can’t. Decisions. Decisions. This video is incredibly helpful with that task. Appreciate you as always. ✌🏾➕✊🏾
Glad to help, good luck with the decision!
Here in Germany you can also pre order at retailers a standard figure for about 49€ (about 50$). When the figures are in stock finally the price increases by about 10 - 20€ in the first few days and after that the price nearly doubles. When a figure is out of stock you will never get one in the secondary market for a reasonable price, the prices then become insane.
Good insights! Thanks for sharing!
Super solid information, it's what we expect from you! Nailed it.
I preordered the ones I wanted the most allmost 300 buckeroos. The shipping was crazy expensive for me. So if I do buy more from bigbad I'll be paying around the same because of there flat rate shipping. The retail markup will just about equal to what I paid all together with shipping going direct. I do like buying directly from the company if I can. This will be the first time I have bought directly from four horseman. I'm pretty excited about it.
Great informative video!
That shipping is killing me. Sweet Christmas, I swore to myself this was the last big order, so I won't face the "big box" cost again, but damn! I was over 60 bucks for the cheap shipping option. I don't know how the overseas Legionnaires are doing it, my hat's off to them for a staying power I don't know if I could match.
This makes the second time my non figure collecting son bought a Mythic Legion, this time Sir Ucczajk. He got drawn in by Aracagorr too, so it's nice to know that some design's appeal just cross all boundaries. He's a Gunpla guy, not into figures, but Mythic Legions transcends, evidently especially big nasty badasses. My younger kid, the one who used to be a figure guy, is a musician these days and dumps his money into bass guitars and effects pedals, he's not coming back to figures any time soon.
for real, shipping plus VAT for us in the UK. i need some of the horsemen / horse combos to come through in stock sales at some point so i can finish that collection then im done for a while lol
@@Powzernation non US toy fans have my deepest sympathies, cuz I have known enough international collectors I have a pretty good idea what import costs to various European countries and Australia. Y'all are dedicated in a way I'm not.
Great video! Thanks Bill.
Thank you! My pleasure!
Honest and fair breakdown. Thanks. I may direct order a few for now. Still recovering from christmas
Really good video man, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I’m not an all in guy myself. I collect other lines and I pick and choose. Collecting can get really expensive if you’re not careful l. I always only get like 2 or 3 figures that really make my eyes pop from each wave. Awesome breakdown vid though!
Awesome!! We need more orcs😢
Great video, Thanks for doing this and helping out new collectors. These types of video's really helped me when I was first getting into the line back in 2020. I placed my order Jan. 1, I would have loved to get 4 of everything, but I settled for an All-in + 3 Maxillius(Love Skeletons and this is all Skeleton) + 2 Undead builders(With all the extra parts it will be possible to make a large undead army with a few of these and some legion builders) + Belualyth(Amazing deal) + Conabus(Skeleton Horse!) + Bishop(Gotta have an extra white horse).
I'm in Canada and the shipping is crazy($136.09) to move the box across the border, but it still comes out cheaper than buying retail in Canada. With that said I'm counting on retailers in Canada to get the figures so that I can still pick up extras later without the crazy shipping.
Nice! My pleasure and thanks for sharing your approach. That Canada shipping is nuts!
So for people in developing countries such as me (Mauritius - small island in the indian ocean) we have two options either port forwarding or getting from BBTS. BBTS is at a decent price and you don't pay any additional taxes, one figure is usually 8 usually shipped.
Port forwarding may be cheaper on bigger orders - and an alternative to getting from 4H are resellers such as horseheadtoys and Mallfish which i recommend as they offer free shipping.
Good info, thanks for sharing Ben!
Thanks. I just discovered Four Horseman late last year and this is going to be my first opportunity to buy direct from them as opposed to an online retailer. I had questions and you answered them all!
Glad to hear it! Welcome to the line!
Thank you for the video. Really does help. I'm leaning towards an all in and extras will come from an online retailer. I live in California so one that offers free shipping and no sales tax is preferable.
I just ordered all of the undead guys and two of the builders to make a zombie minion and a ghost minion. I mainly want Necronominus with his horse and his crew to display with the other three horsemen and select crew from past waves. I'm not into reselling so much as collecting.
Awesome video, thanks for making it! I am leaning towards pre-ordering all in and then offloading what I do not want at close to retail. Leaves me with a solid deal on the figures I want!
Definitely a sound plan. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Love your channel. You got them Rasputin Eyes my guy. They Beckoned me to click on the thumbnail and then share with you national secrets for some reason.
🤣
Great video.
Thank you!
Very comprehensive for US consumers! 4H shipping is so high now that I'm going to try to get the wave from a local retailer for the first time. 🤞 Here's hoping I don't regret it...
For reference, I live in Australia, and shipping for a Necronominus All-In is US$150, vs shipping for 3/4 of the wave is US$250(!!!). 😵💫
If the prices for Necronominus figures are unchanged from previous waves at Marksman Collectables, then it will actually end up *cheaper* to buy from them locally than from 4H direct. 🤔
@@Droothr I am shocked ! I can't believe that you get charge $ 150 for all in. I live in Puerto Rico, which its a domestic destination for the USPS, and I would have to pay at least $ 124. 3 day shipping is more expensive, and I don't have another mailing option with Storehorsemen. If I have to wait for around a year, I could wait longer to get my all in if I can pay no more than $ 50 for shipping. I am not going all-in. Shipping is too expensive ! I started collecting Mythic Legions figures in 2022, and I have already ordered 3 all-ins, and I think that the most expensive all ins were the Trolls. I paid $ 70-75 for shipping, but those 2 figures are very heavy.
This video hit at just the right time for me - I'm modeling a few different Carts to figure out what I want to do. Boreus preorder is $75 at BBTS, so assuming Bishop/Conabus will be $85 (or even $89). Also, great callout on the "no sales tax" retailers!
My wife pre-ordered me Sir Gideon for anniversary. I am definitely going to pre-order his horse, the hand pack, and Sir Elijah. In a perfect world I'd order like...5 of the undead builder pack lol...
I'm ordering similar but I'm going to grab a few extra of Elijah, the new arms, legs and modular face option will be great for kit bashes. I'm also expecting we'll get full skeletons at a cheaper price point later, otherwise I would have gotten more of Maxillius
Elijah is a superb builder. Great choice!
They were talking about more skeletons coming out later or at least giving clues when they said buy multiples of certain one from this wave so I bet they are. It was on one of there live videos.
Another cheap way to getting the figures would be toy shows that are being represented by the four Horsemen, but that is definitely waiting the long game.
Good call, I should have mentioned that.
Waiting until Saturday to place my order
I'm in school so for now money is tight and I definitely can't afford nearly as much as I'd like.. My bday just passed and my gf lovingly gifted me a $100 Store Horseman gift card which is super nice!! I also got a couple hundred bucks from family members, so I was going to put all that toward my order, however after spending $200 between groceries and gas I'm not feeling that anymore... Probably gonna use the gift card to get the two pack, and I'm thinking and hoping to squeeze in Belualyth and Ucczajk!
HI shipping is rough. Retailers don’t offer shipping deals OCONUS so it’s a no brainer to pre order direct. Pre ordered Gideon, Bishop, Elijah, Undead, and Turp!
But thank you for this and all the other videos! Helped when I crunched all the numbers with various carts 😂
I wish I had more insights for international shoppers, any way you slice it, collecting an import-only line (no matter which line or where you are) is more often than not gonna have headaches.
@@DorkLair well worth it though!
As a veteran legions collector I usually wait until the last day and order most of what I know I want. You can use a pay over time app like zip to break up the payments. Then if there’s something I didn’t order that I still want I use the secondary retailers.
Great strategy!
Good stuff! I only ordered the Knights and Bishop. For me the Skeletons are a bottomless money pit I’d be jumping into. I have enough monster/creature figures for the knights to fight.
I hear that, gotta set some limits somewhere.
Now that retail prices are up, I can safely say that I paid basically 0.64 usd less for getting my order from 4h for the combination of figures I got instead of getting it via resellers. Guess deluxe set and ogre set are actually cheaper via retailers once you consider tax and shipping (for some states)
I'm fortunate enough that my direct savings were huge. $580 for the all ins vs $770 retail; and $460 for four two-packs vs $600 retail.
Excellent breakdown! Yeah, when I see the shipping and tax for Washington state, I do weep a little.
I feel for you! It's not cheap to ship from east coast to west coast.
Funny enough I was playing with my cart today and found out I’m only saving $5/figure for 4 regular figures if I order direct. I did grab one all in already though so we’ll see what I decide by Sunday 😅
Seems like the battle there is between paying later vs getting them early. Which will win?
@@DorkLair honestly leaning towards just grabbing the 4 extra deluxes direct and then get any other extras from the wave from retailers 😬
It costs me a lot more overall to preorder from a large store like BBTS than it does from 4H due to my location, I'm in NJ. The choice for myself is really, pay now and wait or pay later and pay a bit more. The cheapest you will get figures is direct from 4H. Once you add tax plus shipping ( yes we pay sales tax in NJ), that savings almost equals out paying later to a no sales tax for out of state residents retailer/small business, plus flat rate or free shipping. It will still be cheaper overall from 4H but not as huge as everyone makes it out to be. For myself the difference is roughly the cost of going out to lunch with my son.
Yeah that's a great point. The savings are really only huge if you are pre-ordering a lot of figures.
I was going to text and ask you what happened to this video and I get home from work and it pops up on my screen lol awesome Job like always Bill thanks.
Ha! Serendipity! Cheers Benny!
I like beluolyth beasts & terpiculi’s price. Hopefully I can get her a conibus. & terpiculi, awesome display, but all 3s $199
Very insightful video. I already made my order but I wish I had this insight before that lol 😅 with being in Canada we get destroyed with taxes and shipping but it is worth it.
Haha, I wanted to get it up earlier honestly. But the holidays and top ten lists kept pushing it back.
Preorder from store horseman or preorder from a retailer, either way it’s better than resale.
Well said!
Great video. I have the headless horseman figura obscura. It’s my first horseman purchase. How many waves do the horseman typically produce a year? I plan on ordering the deluxe 2 pack, 2 undead builder packs and bishop. How do the 1.0 knights scale with 7” figures? Are they the same height as the headless horseman? Ty!
Very helpful. Love the channel.
Yes the 1.0 knights are the same size as Headless Horseman and their parts are all compatable.
@@DorkLair ty buddy!! Love
The channel.
The only reason I didn’t buy direct is the cost of shipping to Canada
I was about to order the last wave as a pre-order then I calculated the overall cost for the few items that I wanted and then realized when shipping is taken into account and credit card interest. So it is not always that clear.
Yeah the main message of this video is to do your research and be an informed buyer.
@@DorkLair forgot to mention good video
UK on top of the shipping we need to plus 20% import tax and around a £15 fee from the courier
May look to buy from the only UK retailer who are very good but no alternative Uk supplier should they sell out (or go bankrupt)
If I had gone this route with Cosmic it would’ve worked out slightly cheaper due to the import tax to buy from the uk
love mythic legions, hate trying to source them over here in the UK. a $37 fig turns into a £50 fig over here, and if i order an all in then customs decides to screw me out of an extra 20% on top of the shipping being expensive lol...wish we had another way :(
I just posed your question to my UK friend who is a heavy Legions collector and here's what he said:
"The price of a standard figure is that 45 to 50 price point. You have to be willing to pay that or you shouldn’t start collecting the line. Retailers in UK and Europe all price their figures in that bracket which is exactly the same as you guys in the states. A friend of mine doesn’t even order direct from the horsemen any more except for their direct exclusives. Also UK collectors tend not to look at the EU retailers and this is a big mistake as most of them ship to the UK and there’s no taxes even after Brexit. Other than that he should join the mythic Legions UK group. There’s often good deals going there or some older figs. But he shouldn’t expect much conversation in there. It’s basically a buy and sell group unfortunately."
@@DorkLair Ohhh thank you and your friend for the info, never considered the EU markets as shipping was also kind of high from there but the no taxes could help with overall costs, recently ordered an all in from storehorsemen, had to pay like £90 in shipping then got hit with an extra £100 customs fees. I will definitely look for the legions uk group, is that on FB?
I got the 3 knights this time. Not a skelly guy and I dont really like the fat legs and arms of the skels
Not a skelly guy? C'mon, everyone is a skeleton guy deep down inside.
Just wowww my wallet absolutely hates mythic legions.
Haha! Mine too. Mortal enemies.
Good information. Thank you. PS - Not a good idea to denigrate your audience, despite it being the truth. Successful content creators ignore and stay on message. Just FYI
I disagree with your interpretation of my message. But thanks for sharing your opinion!
Necronominus/Conabus DELUXE 2-PACK
Maxillius the Harvester
The Turpiculi x2
$230 after shipping to NC😅
Mythic Conversations episode 123 🤌
Just for shipping store HORSEMEN charged 180$…pain of being far away from states 🥲 Serbia, to be exact❤
Ouch. Importing figures can be brutal.