Mythic Legions Pros and Cons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2023
- Every action figure line has their pros and cons, today we're going to talk about Four Horsemen's Mythic Legions. Jordan and Dakota are split on some of the pros and cons. We hope this helps new collectors know what to except when getting into the line.
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Pros:
Amazing sculpts
Great paint apps
Cool designs
Great plastic quality (usually)
Rare themes (how many knight figures do you usually see?)
Good value
Price value increases, even if you opened them
Cloth goods (if you like them, like I do, they're fantastic!)
Cons:
Newer figures are far better than the old, rereleased figures that they seem not worth it anymore
Expensive, worse if you are international
Rare and hard to find, worse if you're international
Sometimes joints come or become loose (specially ankle joints)
Cool old figures are way too expensive and rare to get
Waves take a year or more to release
Paint apps do sometimes miss (but that's with any figure really)
Articulation is decent but limited, however they are improving slowly
Old figures tend to come with less and uninteresting accessories compared to newer figures
Cloth goods (if you don't like them, well they're only becoming more prominant in the lines)
Those are all the pros and cons I could think about. Mythic legions are some of my favorite figures in my collection, I only have a few of them since I am an international collector and they are expensive and hard to get, but man are they worth it. My favorite so far is Duban.
That's an excellent list. It does get hard to stand them up sometimes, especially like you said, when the ankle joints start to loosen, they're just diving off the shelf. Also the hoofed feet give me issues when trying to stand them too.
The first figure I got, Aracagorr the dragon, is amazing, looks fantastic, much better in person! The trouble I had with him is it came with no instructions, had a hard time figuring out how to attach the tail, and a harder time getting his torso separated from his legs. Really needs some sort of an instruction and if they're truly supposed to be swappable, much easier to disassemble without fear of braking it. But really enjoying it so far and have a few more on order already!
That’s an interesting point. I think so many of us fans go straight to TH-cam to watch those kind of instructions but someone getting their first figure especially not knowing about the mythic legions cabal on Facebook may not think to do that. They could add a QR code that takes you to Mythic Customs to watch the instructions of pop and swaps and all that.
Pros: amazing sculpt, paint app, details, different materials
Cons: price, articulation, very hard to find (no retail), becomes rare because they don't usually re-release.
I would say they aren't that hard to find. There are so many approved retailers out there and most figure collecting is online shopping now for most so they're out there. and as for rare, it seems like that only applies to older figures. Anything post Arethyr isn't too hard to find in stock and for about retail. I think with the popularity growing the stock of figures is growing too. Now if you're wanting some of the first few waves that haven't been made to All Stars, those are pretty rare and expensive.
I also had some issues with my ML figures standing not all but there are a few that will stand for a few day and then fall over but I also have that problem with McFarland figures even with the stands he throws in the figure still falls over. I think another drawback to ML is not all figures are made to mount say a horse or another creature , such as the D20 Studio wolf , since the legs don’t spread wide enough.
They can be a bit dissipative in standing. I'll get them posed cool and 3 days latter they've fallen over and taken out 2 others on their way down.
5:35 I appreciate you trying to lay out some of the price considerations for Legions, however a little more clarity/transparency would be appreciated for collectors that are new to 4HM, Mythic Legions and Cosmic Legions collecting. To be clear: Unless you are ordering the "all-in" packages in advance directly from the 4HM/ Store Horsemen website, then the cost per individual figure plus taxes and shipping comes out to exactly the same as ordering from BBTS, and in some cases BBTS might even be less expensive. It's disingenuous to not compare the net costs (what it would actually cost a customer to receive the item in hand) when you are trying to promote the pros and cons of the actual price of the figures. Not trying to dunk on your video, I think that it's a great way to share your enthusiasm and experience about the Mythic Legions line, but this is a common argument that continues to circle the hobby and it needs to be addressed. The Dork Lair TH-cam channel is probably one of the best resources for a breakdown of the actual costs incurred collecting Mythic Legions 🎉 Cheers 🍻 👏 great topic and video 👍
Maybe for us it's at least cheaper to go through 4H because when I ship to Jordan there are not taxes. So it really depends on what you get, how much, and where it's going. For this recent order, it was about $15 ish to ship pretty much no matter what combo of figures we wanted. I'm sure if it was all in or multiples like that it would have been pretty different. I did a video live ordering the All Stars 6 so you can see the total I think there. So for us it tends to lean towards getting from the source but I've seen the breakdowns where if you split your order into 2 it saves you, it's all a puzzle within itself. International though I think the only reason to go through 4H is to have it earlier but that seems to be where the biggest increases are where it seems much more worth going through an approved retailer.
The plastic is higher quality than most mass market figures but those other figures don't tell me I have to soak them like a teabag before I try to move them. The Horsemen have had those kind of problems the entire time they've made figures.
I would say that’s a very fair con with them. It’s not going to stop me from getting them but I would prefer figures that are ready to go right out of package.
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Thank you! We try to keep it fun and entertaining. We started because we wanted more Marvel Legends podcasts we could listen to at work and figured others might as well. Along the way we got into Mythic Legions and now that's Dakota's second biggest part of his collection.
Great video guys. Since your interests have been viewed on YT, I have been extremely curious on this line of Mythic Legions. There is an allure towards deco and sculpt that intrigues. Yet the price comes into play that is very prohibitive. For perspective, I live in Canada. Add $20 to most of the US prices per figure. Nearly $30 more for some. My space to display is extremely restricted also determining that I have to be just a fan of the line. The sculpt, deco and accessories of the Mythic Legion line appears to deliver a worthy product for the price paid. That isn't very common nowadays.
Another line that has left me tremendously impressed has been what FuRay has been producing. So far Veteran William and Blade Master Wen have looked incredible in their reviews.
You might be able to find some folk in Canada that have Mythic Legions for a good price. I think there is a Facebook group for the Canada Cabal but I'm not sure what it's called. you also might be able to find collectors or retailers in Canada on the Mythic Legions Cabal page.
@@thestrongcollectors thank you very much
Great video. Fell in love with ML during their original Kickstarter but was cautious at first. Didn't realize the amazing pedigree the 4H guys had over the years but I was afraid of getting snake bit like when other toy Kickstarters failed and took fans money.
Since then I've really enjoyed the quality of the figures and have bought 8-10 ML's to add as mythical monsters in my Castlevania figure collection. Perfect for Skeletons, Minotaur, Cyclops, Axe Armor baddies from the video game franchise!
Jordan loves the skeleton figures and I don't think 4 horsemen will stop making them any time soon. Can't wait to see what the announce this upcoming weekend.
Beautiful customs!
Thank you! I think I'm going to put the white custom demon up on ebay and let him fly away to a new home. I was going to have to store him and I have most of the parts to remake him when we have a new permeant place to display him.
So true about the cabal
There are some down sides but still one of the absolute best figure collecting groups on Facebook.
Pretty spot on gents!
Thank you! We wanted it to be an honest take. They are my favorite new line to collect but that doesn't mean it's sunshine and rainbows all the time... but most of the time.
Just now got into them but like with ML they just seem redundant with the reused parts. I mostly really like the mounts.
There is a lot of reuse in parts but with Mythic Legions it's a lot more fun because the parts are meant to be modular. That's where I think the most fun come in with them. You have to sit down take a figure all the way apart to know you can, put it back together, and then start thinking of cool swaps. Or see what other people do and then copy. That's the main reason I bought a Hagnon.
Good convo fellas, and yes I agree that the Cabal can definitely dogpile on people (for better or worse) and I say that as a member and pretty big fan of MLs. ✌️
For sure. And that's all I'm really trying to do it point a single flaw of an otherwise excellent community.
Thanks 4 posting this video! You’re 100% Correct if you speak your mind regarding your dislikes or possibly room 4 improvement, then you are attacked! By this Mythic Lovers Cabal! I don’t get it! Like it’s either folks on the payroll or some or some private company that creates friction??? Peace
It's not even the folks on the payroll because their in there just chilling having a good time for the most part. I truly think they listen to most feedback and only disagree when it gets really out there. It's just the die hard fans that can be unwelcome to any criticism. Overall though, probably the best Facebook group to be a part of.
I recently saw someone in the Cabal complain about the influx of new members and them not respecting group norms. One of those norms? Not focusing on the negative aspects of the line. It's crazy groupthink.
For some people this might be a con, but for me it’s a plus. I love the legion builders with less paint. That unpainted plastic is just begging for me to customize and paint it. BTW, what’s your username in the Cabal? I’m a regular on there. I also agree that you should be allowed to be critical of Legions. I like most aspects about them, but nothing is perfect and you are spot on about the ankle joints.
We're Dakota Phillips and Jordan Fash in the Cabal. My con for Legion Builders are... even with the lack of paint, they are still too good lol. I made a post in the Cabal about my first time being disappointed in a Legion figure was opening the LB gladiator and barbarian. I bought them to paint and they were so cool to begin with I still haven't painted them yet lol. I probably will eventually though.
The black widow was $27.99. (if you can find them...)
Oh really? I thought she crossed over the $30 mark originally. I could very easily be wrong though.
Mythic legions make great dark souls figures 👌🏼
Ooooo good call. I'd never thought of that! Do you do customs or pose them as is?
@@thestrongcollectors as is for now, still getting into customs, I can see it having a lot of potential as well though
What’s the website where I can pre order? Is it storehorsemen?
For new waves yes. also for in stock sales which will be this Saturday. Otherwise, you'll have to go through approved retailers which there is no shortage: www.sourcehorsemen.com/about/retailers
@@thestrongcollectors ok that’s what I was wondering, thank you! I have a couple I pre ordered from Nerdzoic, but if I can safe money by buying direct that’s even better! Thank you so much!
They won't have a preorder for a little bit because of the in stock sale (which if you can get anything there that's going to be one of the best options(depending on shipping and tax)). Retailers will have a new wave that you can preorder from next month as well. But when there is a brand new regular wave that's where it will be available. We'll make videos when that happens and let you know.
I know you guys don't have all the characters but curious if you could do for each faction your own top 10 even if you don't have them on hand 🥰 add content for your Mythic Legions love to know your pick and let Jordan have the Necronominus Faction that's his favorite faction among the mythic line right? 🥰
I would love to do that. I'm planning to do a ranking episode of all the Legions I've had as soon as I get back from vacation. But I love the idea of doing an each faction top 10.
@@thestrongcollectorsi Just watch ur Ranking video bro it was very informative! I wanted to get my first ML to check out the line, i went for Ilgarr i was surpriced u graded it greatly ! Its a little overwhelming picking up ur first legions😅
@@mrcrowley1992 I really like the colors on him and the idea that he's a viking skeleton. I would say if you're wanting to pick up another that would be even better bang for your buck, grab Vargg as a deluxe, or xylirian guard. Both are mind blowing to me. If you're going to dip into Cosmic Legions (which I suggest you do) the science officer (one of the cheapest) or pay a little extra for Slygor. Those are my 2 standout favorites.
@@thestrongcollectors thanks for the suggestions bro ill write em down ! Im really excited for my ilgarr to arrive! And have a great experience overall! I love Diablo and Darksouls games! I cant believe it took me so long to stumble upon ML! 🫣
I just got my first legion. Duban. But I can’t get his pouldrons on. What am I doing wrong?
You may need some heat. You can use a hair dryer or I normally just run some hot water over the pouldrons and then helps them go in easier.
@@thestrongcollectors I’ll try that. Thank you
Heat the holes not the pegs on the pauldrons. They’ll go right in
One good thing about the price it forces me to streamline the collection and not ust become a hoarder. lol
It did the same for us too.
37.00 for a Mythics Legion figure is cheap considering the height, detail, modularity, etc....They seem cheaper than should be. A Mezco is 100 on average...go figure. Marvel Legends is not high premium figures...comparing Marvel Legends with Mythic Legions is unfair. Maybe Mezco would be a better comparison or even Three Zero.
I think they are all fair to compare. Really I don't think Legions could go much higher than they are right now especially the retail price. The modularity is really cool and although ads to the fun there's no chance I'm buying a figure at $100 (Mezco price) because I need the armor parts for a pop and swap for something else. I think Legends are a good comparison because they can beat Legions in some categories: price, articulation, and character recognition.
@@thestrongcollectors - Yeah the reputation is just one factor of multiples that indirectly affects the supply and demand thus the price. In actuality the price of the toy is determined partially by the cost to produce them per figure and marketing cost (t.v air time, magazine publications, conventions, etc) of Marvel Legends. I would assume could be higher production cost than a small company that has fewer staff members to pay.
37.00 if you preorder them direct. plus 40.00 for shipping
The Cons the Price, everything else is a Pro
Even at their price, I can't help but keep getting them. I do try to get them from 4H directly when I can though.
Don't forget articulation
I dont like their feet
the hooves are the challenge for me. Bare feet, boot, and armor all stand ok for me.