Mr. Appleton, you’ve once again caused me to revisit the past. My own model flying career was short, and by my quick calculations, I managed a greater number of crashes than smooth landings. Luckily, in full-size aircraft I’ve done much better.
One of the problems with those early FS 60 four strokes was rusty brgs. and carboned up valves. I converted mine to spark ignition with a home made breaker plate and Harley Sportster points. Running on gasoline and 2 stroke oil it runs much cleaner with no more rusty bearings or carbon on the valves. I bought mine new back in 1979 and it still runs like new after having been in at least 7 different airplanes. I started flying control line back about 1950. I started flying RC in 1968, and flew RC Pattern competition for 23 years. Then I went back to flying control line with old ignition engines. Super Cyclones, and Anderson Spitfires. I am now 80 years old and do not fly anymore but have a basement full of planes and lots of old ignition engines from the 40's that I have restored. It has been a great hobby for me no matter what else I did. Most of the last flying I did was with an old Play Boy Sr. with an Ohlsson side port 60 with a radio so I did not have to chase it. Thanks for the video.
I still have a number of old model engines in the shed from my aeromodelling days, though I never succimbed to 4 strokes due to how much more expensive they were. Lots of fond memories of the fun I had.
Very nice. I am almost 68 and just got back into nitro powered hydroplanes and tunnel hull boats. Using 7.5 K&B outboards. Lots of fun. Smitty in NS, Canada.
Dear Keith, , watching this clip it brings back memories of my Cox glow engine , which I converted to compression ignition from glow plug, since a spare blow plug was not available, in Bombay, at that time,
I’m 61 and have been out of flying for 40 years. I’m not sure what I’ll encounter when I take the old nitro planes out. I’ll probably be shamed. Great video.
I used to race nitro 1/5 scale cars and I also visit my local model flying club quite often. There is no drive to get rid of nitro at either club, it’s simply that electric is a heck of a lot easier to live with!
I managed control line flying, but never quite got a RC airplane to do what I wanted, that is why I went to model boats, usually when they quite they just floated there.
We used to call it “castor oil” fuel. Very distinctive. Great vlog, thank for posting. Never owned a .60 of any kind, did have a Fox .15. Both great engines, great stories to be told.
I used to fly RC planes and helicopters and the OS four stroke shown is the mk 1 FS60. I used OS two strokes and had a Webra Speed 40 with a Dynamix Carb. I then used YS. Engines but they liked 30% Nitro to run well.
Hmm ...I've got a really nice example of a Saito 1.00 from the early 2000s, I only flew it once on the plane, haven't messed with fixed wing since. I need to get that one out and free it off/get it running. I love 4 strokes, id like to have one of the Saito 4 stroke gasoline engines...functionally just the 4 stroke nitro motors with a cdi ignition. I do like foam and electric planes to....wood and motors are fun, but the foam is nice when you smack into the ground, it goes back together with toothpicks and hot glue! Someday I'm going to build a 1/3 sig spacewalker with the scale motor Saito makes for it :-)
Seeing one of those FS-60s running on the channel would be amazing! Love me a good OS. Got plenty of them in my stash...Saitos too; those run just as well.
Keith, my introduction to OS engines came about in a bit of an odd way. I was scrounging about at the scrap yard in various buckets and boxes which were from some kind of clean out from a garage or barn, and happened upon an OS 58 glow engine. It was in fair condition with about a 6" wooden propeller on it that was a might rough. The engine turned over, and had good compression. I tried to sell it on eBay, but it was a bust.
Ahh yes glow engines I do miss the heddy smell of glow fuel in the mornings too many clubs goin boring with electric and health and safety they would have a field day with the 1/4 scale piper cub I had with a 26cc petrol engine on the front lol do love the nitro engines a sound and smell and performance of there own
I flew rc aircraft in the early 2000’s I had a precedent T180 (a bit like a piper cub) with an SC52 4 stroke and could around 30 minute flight times, great fun and yes back then I can only think of one chap that was running an electric powered plane I dare say it’s much different now.
Ah, I really miss those days. I was president of our local model aircraft club and 'apparently' an instructor as well. Unfortunately all those around me have now passed on, but I do have great memories of one of my planes going in through the passenger window of a members ford f100 car and coming out the drivers side window a little worse for wear. Then there was the time we hired a full size (with a real pilot) piper cub to go searching for my glider that had decided it liked thermalling when my eyes weren't quite up to the task. Somewhere I also have a photo of my 3 year old son playing with a plane with an os46 running at 20000 rpm. Where were ohs when we needed them?
Dope, these days has an entirely different meaning! I very well remember the smell of it. I believe it was castor oil and nitromors if memory serves. I never flew, just watched the club members fly real model aircraft, not electric powered mass produced plug and play things. Lovely video, quite enjoyable.
I just got myself a OS fs 40 old stock new in box could not be happier never been run ,im hoping to run it in tomorrow any advice on fuel etc thanks great vid too🤙🤙
great review and is one of my fav engine! I love the design and its made like a Swiss watch, almost every bit is rotating part has a ball bearing on them. What you have there is a version 2 and version 3 engine. The very first had aluminum rockers, although most desirable, I think the cast metal rockers look way better then the plain aluminum ones. I have a version 2 engine one me, love the machined head and metal rockers.
I love your WW1 Eindecker type aircraft. I must admit that now electric has become so popular I have dabbled again. Its so much easier than all the faff and mess with engines. Although you obviously have no time for them I am now into electric helicopters which are challenging to fly aerobatically. You get some control reversals that you never get with a fixed wing, like flying backwards upside down..
Aha. I clocked one of the light towers for Healey Mills in the background, I remember seeing flying on there on summer evenings back in the early 80's when as a young driver, i worked into the yards there. Am I right that the field is over the river/ near the old Silvertown (edit- Savile Town!) goods depot? No one I speak to seems to remember that! Back then, I too used to mess with Rc flying, with pretty grim results, I have to say! I think somewhere I still have a Webra 61 minus piston and rod, but not seen it for over 40 years; it was going to go on a Windbag- if you remember them!
We have a strong similarity in enjoying the RC aircraft hobby. However, I quit the hobby when the Quarter-scalers took over the flying field. Too many field marshals and a general unfriendliness toward anyone who didn't spend big money on giant planes. I sold my fun little glow power stuff and retired from the hobby. Then, about ten years later along came good affordable and well developed electric helicopters. Now some years later I still have the same machine and enjoy flying in vacant places without the hassle of someone trying to kill me with their pattern plane buzzing the field at high speed.
From what I have read the FS-60 was the world's first mass produced four-stroke model aircraft engine, introduced in 1976. I believe the first Webra T4 models came out not too long after. It's not against the law to fly gas over there now is it?
My older "smarter" brother bought us a couple of Glow Plug hard plastic control line models for one Christmas in the mid 1970s. The first "demonstration" flight he attempted, the cub took off and immediately looped and smashed into the ground. Then we went home. The Spitfire was never taken out of the box, and disappeared a little time later. These had a small glow plug engine with a built in fuel tank on the back. I mounted the smashed cub engine onto a glider made from a Model World TV series plan. My brother took charge again, and on the first flight it landed nose down in a water filled ditch. A second flight was attempted later after my brother cleaned out the motor. This time the motor was running very, very slowly, and I watched my glider circle and disappear into the distance. Which ended my foray into model aircraft.
Great story.........I'm the older brother of three....we never let the youngest play with our models.....he ended up showing us ( the two oldest) how it's really done...became a TOP GUN instructor at Miramar........love your phrase.....Then we went home.......Capt. Mike......SAT
We are a quickly fading generation of model builders, ones who knew the importance of just one click on the high speed needle..and checking the frequencies on the field, before turning on a transmitter. Cap your fuel tight boys.
16 years ago I took my 10-year-old grandson to watch a group of RC planes. One guy had his brand new built RC fired up and started to taxi out to try to fly it. All of a sudden the throttle went wide open, the plane made a 180 turn headed back toward us who were watching. The grandson jumped over the wing with no problem (young reflexes) and the plane crashed into the rear fender of a rather new shiny pickup truck. Big dent in the fender, plane totaled but the good thing it was the plane owner's truck. One of those big laughs "AFTER the crash."
Brought back old memories. I had an OS61 4 stroke, a webra 60, an OS 40 and a couple of ENYAs but all in the marine water cooled versions. Yes the OS61 equated in power to a 35 or 40 2 stroke and was seriously underpowered for the model I bought it for. I moved it to a smaller boat where it's much more civilised exhaust note was more acceptable near civilisation. I replaced it with a webra 61 in my 42 inch fairey phantom where it provided all the power this hefty boat could cope with and provided excellent service for 12 years on both fresh and saltwater (with careful flushing through after use in the latter case). Incidentally I also reluctantly stayed away from model aircraft for the same reasons as yourself. Take kids model boating and the worst that can happen is they get wet (several of them did). Same thing has happened with model boats. It's all Ni-cads and whirring electrics now. Same performance but wrong noise and no smell.
The carb. on the first engine looks like a 1970s Kavan Carb, which was produced for a variety of engines and had a reputation for providing a much more reliable idle than the Manufacturers supplied carbs.
Old guy at my CL club drag his 2 daughters to field and taught them to fly. He got b in his 80. One daughter refused him to teach her children fly or go to the field. The other one let one of her son's go because he was interested. Mary's a teenager he's not interested but the grandfather keeps pushing. Funny thing is that told him when he dies they're going to chuck everything in the bin or burn it.
I love the smell of glo fuel burning. But alas most of my aircraft has grown into gas burners. I have quite the collection of glo burners..but the cost of fuel prohibits very much run time.
I once saw a brand new, maiden flight, scale P51 Mustang bury itself straight into the ground from around 25-30ft going full chat due to interference from a local, illegal 27mhz AM CB. The engine dug itself in some 6” and all that was left of the airframe was matchsticks ☹️. Not a good days flying for the chap that built it.
You're touch and go definition is a bit touch and go.... Take off, land, take off again without deceleration on landing roll. It's always preferable to have the same number of take offs to landings in my opinion.... Nice motors.Ta.
Yes, these days it's "Hideous lumps of polystyrene with electric motors". When I started flying (around 30 years ago) I was a bit sad to see many club members switch from proper kits or scratch builds to (A)RTF kits; to me, there was nothing like coming home with a plan and a bunch of balsawood and turning that into an actual skyworthy aircraft. But on the flip side, the hobby is more accessible than ever these days, and is alive and well. Equipment has gotten better and a lot cheaper. And there are still plenty of hobbyists who enjoy scratch-building.
The wings are falling off of real Piper Cherokees so you just had a precursor. Ok only 2 Cherokees that I can recall but it is a serious enough of a problem that the FAA is forcing owners to have their Cherokees inspected for cracks in the wing spar!
Keith; - "I stopped going to model airplane meeting because it's too dangerous to take my daughter". Also Keith - "health and safety have gone mad" (if that what the horrendous auto caption said I hope).
Thank You for making this episode, it called back many of my own childhood memories. :) I newer got one as a child, probably my parents concidered them to be a bit too dangerous toys, but i used to watch when my friends dad was flying professional models with similar types of engines, i recently got one of those later Japanese engines my self on a national action site, since You where mantion them earlier, i remember i wanted one, but there was no way i could afford a real combustion engine whan i was a little child there was electric motors, but the whole system for high preformance electric motors was realy expensive and the motors did not had enough torque to realy take the top as they do today, a few months ago i bought a batch of realy sheap surplus mini electric motors from Germany and i realized that even those had miles better prestanda compared to the smaller types of combustion engines in the 70-80s. But nothing realy beats the feeling in running those old motors and control systems. They decided to got rid of all those 80s aeroplan magazine books on the local library, so i was not late to pick them up, i found many of those articles i remember, like the one where the repporter did cut out a lot of cursing ower the "superzonic" pulsejet engine models, i think he was actualy a bit terrified ower the high velocity those teams managed to achieve with the pulsejet engines, if he wanted that hobby to die out, it massivly backfired since it had the diametral opposite effect on kids like me, it realy spured me to do alot of research about the pulsejet engines and how to build them, i learned a lot thanks to the man who seemeed to hate those things to the extent he even refused to write more than a short notice about hawing them flying on regular sites, i was probably not alone since the tecnology continued to apear frequently built in full size on the yearly icerunners contest in Svarthålet Racing (in Northern Sweden) paralell with the aeroplane models... I always collected burnt fireworks whan i was a child since the rockets and what they could potentialy be used for in the future always did fashinated me, i remember those Russian made ones where exceptionaly well built, almost a shame they could not be reused i taught as a kid. ha ha
“Me too”...my history with RC planes is much like yours. Electric motors hold absolutely no interest for me. I have a basement “full” of proper 2 and 4 stroke engines as well as a few aircraft and several kits NIB. I too miss those great days...of burning a gallon of glow fuel on a Saturday, followed by doing the same thing on Sunday. $8.00 per gallon, mixed by our Club in the 1980s.
you, sir, are a gem. that bit brought back a lot of memories.
Mr. Appleton, you’ve once again caused me to revisit the past. My own model flying career was short, and by my quick calculations, I managed a greater number of crashes than smooth landings. Luckily, in full-size aircraft I’ve done much better.
One of the problems with those early FS 60 four strokes was rusty brgs. and carboned up valves. I converted mine to spark ignition with a home made breaker plate and Harley Sportster points. Running on gasoline and 2 stroke oil it runs much cleaner with no more rusty bearings or carbon on the valves. I bought mine new back in 1979 and it still runs like new after having been in at least 7 different airplanes.
I started flying control line back about 1950. I started flying RC in 1968, and flew RC Pattern competition for 23 years. Then I went back to flying control line with old ignition engines. Super Cyclones, and Anderson Spitfires. I am now 80 years old and do not fly anymore but have a basement full of planes and lots of old ignition engines from the 40's that I have restored. It has been a great hobby for me no matter what else I did.
Most of the last flying I did was with an old Play Boy Sr. with an Ohlsson side port 60 with a radio so I did not have to chase it.
Thanks for the video.
Great memories of flying with my Dad, he built them, I flew them, and wrecked several including wings that snapped off in a tight loop.
I still have a number of old model engines in the shed from my aeromodelling days, though I never succimbed to 4 strokes due to how much more expensive they were. Lots of fond memories of the fun I had.
Very nice. I am almost 68 and just got back into nitro powered hydroplanes and tunnel hull boats. Using 7.5 K&B outboards. Lots of fun. Smitty in NS, Canada.
Dear Keith, , watching this clip it brings back memories of my Cox glow engine , which I converted to compression ignition from glow plug, since a spare blow plug was not available, in Bombay, at that time,
I’m 61 and have been out of flying for 40 years. I’m not sure what I’ll encounter when I take the old nitro planes out. I’ll probably be shamed. Great video.
Thanks }:-)))
I used to race nitro 1/5 scale cars and I also visit my local model flying club quite often. There is no drive to get rid of nitro at either club, it’s simply that electric is a heck of a lot easier to live with!
I managed control line flying, but never quite got a RC airplane to do what I wanted, that is why I went to model boats, usually when they quite they just floated there.
We used to call it “castor oil” fuel. Very distinctive. Great vlog, thank for posting. Never owned a .60 of any kind, did have a Fox .15. Both great engines, great stories to be told.
I used to fly RC planes and helicopters and the OS four stroke shown is the mk 1 FS60. I used OS two strokes and had a Webra Speed 40 with a Dynamix Carb. I then used YS. Engines but they liked 30% Nitro to run well.
Hmm ...I've got a really nice example of a Saito 1.00 from the early 2000s, I only flew it once on the plane, haven't messed with fixed wing since.
I need to get that one out and free it off/get it running. I love 4 strokes, id like to have one of the Saito 4 stroke gasoline engines...functionally just the 4 stroke nitro motors with a cdi ignition.
I do like foam and electric planes to....wood and motors are fun, but the foam is nice when you smack into the ground, it goes back together with toothpicks and hot glue!
Someday I'm going to build a 1/3 sig spacewalker with the scale motor Saito makes for it :-)
Seeing one of those FS-60s running on the channel would be amazing! Love me a good OS. Got plenty of them in my stash...Saitos too; those run just as well.
Keith, my introduction to OS engines came about in a bit of an odd way. I was scrounging about at the scrap yard in various buckets and boxes which were from some kind of clean out from a garage or barn, and happened upon an OS 58 glow engine. It was in fair condition with about a 6" wooden propeller on it that was a might rough. The engine turned over, and had good compression. I tried to sell it on eBay, but it was a bust.
Those old videos are great especially with the voice over 👍.
Wonderful stuff, a refreshing change.
Ahh yes glow engines I do miss the heddy smell of glow fuel in the mornings too many clubs goin boring with electric and health and safety they would have a field day with the 1/4 scale piper cub I had with a 26cc petrol engine on the front lol do love the nitro engines a sound and smell and performance of there own
A wonderful video! It takes me back too... we both like to wear vests! Best wishes from Chicago!
You have love it when the fuselage acts like a tall boy and the wing like a flutter fly
I flew rc aircraft in the early 2000’s I had a precedent T180 (a bit like a piper cub) with an SC52 4 stroke and could around 30 minute flight times, great fun and yes back then I can only think of one chap that was running an electric powered plane I dare say it’s much different now.
I like how you can hear somebody say "oh shit" when the wings came off
Yes I remember it well - that was my voice }:-)))
i still own both the os fs 60 and 75,engines. i also had 2 fs80s,but sold 1. all still run great and look almost new.
Ah, I really miss those days. I was president of our local model aircraft club and 'apparently' an instructor as well. Unfortunately all those around me have now passed on, but I do have great memories of one of my planes going in through the passenger window of a members ford f100 car and coming out the drivers side window a little worse for wear. Then there was the time we hired a full size (with a real pilot) piper cub to go searching for my glider that had decided it liked thermalling when my eyes weren't quite up to the task. Somewhere I also have a photo of my 3 year old son playing with a plane with an os46 running at 20000 rpm. Where were ohs when we needed them?
Oh Keith I can smell that delicious greasy burnt nitro fuel smell while I watched the video at the end. Such a distinct smell and memory.
Dope, these days has an entirely different meaning! I very well remember the smell of it. I believe it was castor oil and nitromors if memory serves.
I never flew, just watched the club members fly real model aircraft, not electric powered mass produced plug and play things.
Lovely video, quite enjoyable.
Webra is originated in Germany, but there was/is also a production factory in Enzesfeld in Austria.
That was a great video Keith, thanks for sharing #BringBackTheNitro
Great Stuff Keith
Bless Up
The fact that these are vintage makes me sad... and old.
I just got myself a OS fs 40 old stock new in box could not be happier never been run ,im hoping to run it in tomorrow any advice on fuel etc thanks great vid too🤙🤙
1st generation os four strokes were very good
As a model aircraft guy who loves petrol or alcohol or whatever they are called, This engin is dream!
great review and is one of my fav engine! I love the design and its made like a Swiss watch, almost every bit is rotating part has a ball bearing on them. What you have there is a version 2 and version 3 engine. The very first had aluminum rockers, although most desirable, I think the cast metal rockers look way better then the plain aluminum ones. I have a version 2 engine one me, love the machined head and metal rockers.
I love your WW1 Eindecker type aircraft. I must admit that now electric has become so popular I have dabbled again. Its so much easier than all the faff and mess with engines. Although you obviously have no time for them I am now into electric helicopters which are challenging to fly aerobatically. You get some control reversals that you never get with a fixed wing, like flying backwards upside down..
Aha. I clocked one of the light towers for Healey Mills in the background, I remember seeing flying on there on summer evenings back in the early 80's when as a young driver, i worked into the yards there. Am I right that the field is over the river/ near the old Silvertown (edit- Savile Town!) goods depot? No one I speak to seems to remember that! Back then, I too used to mess with Rc flying, with pretty grim results, I have to say! I think somewhere I still have a Webra 61 minus piston and rod, but not seen it for over 40 years; it was going to go on a Windbag- if you remember them!
Excellent
Thank You {:-)))
I have this same motor, set for a future model plane project.
We have a strong similarity in enjoying the RC aircraft hobby. However, I quit the hobby when the Quarter-scalers took over the flying field. Too many field marshals and a general unfriendliness toward anyone who didn't spend big money on giant planes. I sold my fun little glow power stuff and retired from the hobby. Then, about ten years later along came good affordable and well developed electric helicopters. Now some years later I still have the same machine and enjoy flying in vacant places without the hassle of someone trying to kill me with their pattern plane buzzing the field at high speed.
From what I have read the FS-60 was the world's first mass produced four-stroke model aircraft engine, introduced in 1976. I believe the first Webra T4 models came out not too long after.
It's not against the law to fly gas over there now is it?
No, it's still OK to fly IC engined models.
My older "smarter" brother bought us a couple of Glow Plug hard plastic control line models for one Christmas in the mid 1970s. The first "demonstration" flight he attempted, the cub took off and immediately looped and smashed into the ground. Then we went home. The Spitfire was never taken out of the box, and disappeared a little time later. These had a small glow plug engine with a built in fuel tank on the back. I mounted the smashed cub engine onto a glider made from a Model World TV series plan. My brother took charge again, and on the first flight it landed nose down in a water filled ditch. A second flight was attempted later after my brother cleaned out the motor. This time the motor was running very, very slowly, and I watched my glider circle and disappear into the distance. Which ended my foray into model aircraft.
Doing a Google, these ready to fly models were made by Cox.
Great story.........I'm the older brother of three....we never let the youngest play with our models.....he ended up showing us ( the two oldest) how it's really done...became a TOP GUN instructor at Miramar........love your phrase.....Then we went home.......Capt. Mike......SAT
Anything plummeting into the ground at 100 miles an hour it’s supposed to get broken.
Nothing like the smell of glow fuel in the morning.
We are a quickly fading generation of model builders, ones who knew the importance of just one click on the high speed needle..and checking the frequencies on the field, before turning on a transmitter. Cap your fuel tight boys.
Very true sadly .......
16 years ago I took my 10-year-old grandson to watch a group of RC planes. One guy had his brand new built RC fired up and started to taxi out to try to fly it. All of a sudden the throttle went wide open, the plane made a 180 turn headed back toward us who were watching. The grandson jumped over the wing with no problem (young reflexes) and the plane crashed into the rear fender of a rather new shiny pickup truck. Big dent in the fender, plane totaled but the good thing it was the plane owner's truck. One of those big laughs "AFTER the crash."
}:-)))
Webra. 61 blackhead rear exhaust, dynamix 11x7 14000rpm and retro curare, iam waiting snow melting.
Nice }:-)))
Brought back old memories. I had an OS61 4 stroke, a webra 60, an OS 40 and a couple of ENYAs but all in the marine water cooled versions. Yes the OS61 equated in power to a 35 or 40 2 stroke and was seriously underpowered for the model I bought it for. I moved it to a smaller boat where it's much more civilised exhaust note was more acceptable near civilisation. I replaced it with a webra 61 in my 42 inch fairey phantom where it provided all the power this hefty boat could cope with and provided excellent service for 12 years on both fresh and saltwater (with careful flushing through after use in the latter case).
Incidentally I also reluctantly stayed away from model aircraft for the same reasons as yourself. Take kids model boating and the worst that can happen is they get wet (several of them did).
Same thing has happened with model boats. It's all Ni-cads and whirring electrics now. Same performance but wrong noise and no smell.
The carb. on the first engine looks like a 1970s Kavan Carb, which was produced for a variety of engines and had a reputation for providing a much more reliable idle than the Manufacturers supplied carbs.
The ones on the OS-FS60's are original OS carburettors.
Old guy at my CL club drag his 2 daughters to field and taught them to fly. He got b in his 80. One daughter refused him to teach her children fly or go to the field. The other one let one of her son's go because he was interested. Mary's a teenager he's not interested but the grandfather keeps pushing. Funny thing is that told him when he dies they're going to chuck everything in the bin or burn it.
Video of the artist as a younger man.
Time flies, I was about 30 in that clip - 38 years ago }:-)))
You wanna set up an Internal Combustion Engine Flying club Keith. where you are only allowed to use internal combustion engines on youur aircraft XD
have you ever considered doing any live diesel locos ?
Keith- (flys an R/C plane)
Fuselage- "Alright, I'm going this way. Wings, do your own thing."
I love the smell of glo fuel burning. But alas most of my aircraft has grown into gas burners. I have quite the collection of glo burners..but the cost of fuel prohibits very much run time.
I once saw a brand new, maiden flight, scale P51 Mustang bury itself straight into the ground from around 25-30ft going full chat due to interference from a local, illegal 27mhz AM CB. The engine dug itself in some 6” and all that was left of the airframe was matchsticks ☹️. Not a good days flying for the chap that built it.
Are there hobby websites in the UK that sell little 4 cylinder boxer engines? I'm looking for something small enough to put in a 1/10 nitro car
I crashed a Fox.35 straight into a blacktop parking lot, and drove the crankshaft through the back plate of the engine.
}:-)))
You're touch and go definition is a bit touch and go....
Take off, land, take off again without deceleration on landing roll. It's always preferable to have the same number of take offs to landings in my opinion....
Nice motors.Ta.
The cylinder head came out polished, And Os did not actually use the words Mark 1 or 2.
I use the terms Mk 1 & Mk2 to illustrate the deign differences and will continue to do so.
Yes, these days it's "Hideous lumps of polystyrene with electric motors". When I started flying (around 30 years ago) I was a bit sad to see many club members switch from proper kits or scratch builds to (A)RTF kits; to me, there was nothing like coming home with a plan and a bunch of balsawood and turning that into an actual skyworthy aircraft. But on the flip side, the hobby is more accessible than ever these days, and is alive and well. Equipment has gotten better and a lot cheaper. And there are still plenty of hobbyists who enjoy scratch-building.
The wings are falling off of real Piper Cherokees so you just had a precursor. Ok only 2 Cherokees that I can recall but it is a serious enough of a problem that the FAA is forcing owners to have their Cherokees inspected for cracks in the wing spar!
Super 💝
Keith; - "I stopped going to model airplane meeting because it's too dangerous to take my daughter".
Also Keith - "health and safety have gone mad"
(if that what the horrendous auto caption said I hope).
That is more or less what I said on the narrative . . . .
The four stroke engines may not be as powerful but I much prefer the sound over a two stroke.
Thank You for making this episode, it called back many of my own childhood memories. :)
I newer got one as a child, probably my parents concidered them to be a bit too dangerous toys, but i used to watch when my friends dad was flying professional models with similar types of engines, i recently got one of those later Japanese engines my self on a national action site, since You where mantion them earlier, i remember i wanted one, but there was no way i could afford a real combustion engine whan i was a little child there was electric motors, but the whole system for high preformance electric motors was realy expensive and the motors did not had enough torque to realy take the top as they do today, a few months ago i bought a batch of realy sheap surplus mini electric motors from Germany and i realized that even those had miles better prestanda compared to the smaller types of combustion engines in the 70-80s. But nothing realy beats the feeling in running those old motors and control systems. They decided to got rid of all those 80s aeroplan magazine books on the local library, so i was not late to pick them up, i found many of those articles i remember, like the one where the repporter did cut out a lot of cursing ower the "superzonic" pulsejet engine models, i think he was actualy a bit terrified ower the high velocity those teams managed to achieve with the pulsejet engines, if he wanted that hobby to die out, it massivly backfired since it had the diametral opposite effect on kids like me, it realy spured me to do alot of research about the pulsejet engines and how to build them, i learned a lot thanks to the man who seemeed to hate those things to the extent he even refused to write more than a short notice about hawing them flying on regular sites, i was probably not alone since the tecnology continued to apear frequently built in full size on the yearly icerunners contest in Svarthålet Racing (in Northern Sweden) paralell with the aeroplane models... I always collected burnt fireworks whan i was a child since the rockets and what they could potentialy be used for in the future always did fashinated me, i remember those Russian made ones where exceptionaly well built, almost a shame they could not be reused i taught as a kid. ha ha
“Me too”...my history with RC planes is much like yours. Electric motors hold absolutely no interest for me. I have a basement “full” of proper 2 and 4 stroke engines as well as a few aircraft and several kits NIB. I too miss those great days...of burning a gallon of glow fuel on a Saturday, followed by doing the same thing on Sunday. $8.00 per gallon, mixed by our Club in the 1980s.
Happy days indeed . . . .
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