New fave podcast. Thank you for allowing this safe space for people in recovery to share their stories. Just celebrated 10 years on February 1st and living a life of my WILDEST dreams.
Love these sit down chats!! I agree with the convo on MAT & I’m on subs. I think it should be short term use. So many of us were thrown on it, thank God it’s kept us alive, but weren’t given an “exit-plan” or even a time limit. Now I’ve been on it like 3 years. They should have something set up to where if you still need the help, they’ll get you switched to a shot. My dr at the clinic talked me OUT of the shot, saying a lot of insurance won’t approve it, and it’s hard because it’s made to fit each individual, stays refrigerated, & has to be thrown out if patient misses appointment. My theory is, they rather have more suboxone patients, because if they switch to the shot, they lose patients coming in 1-4 times a month, lose that money, and a patient will be on the subs for years versus getting the shot once or twice & being able to stop with little to no withdrawal!!!
I'm only a third of the way through the epsiode, but I had to stop and think about RJ's comment on centers with higher standards being harder to fill... I've only done inpatient once, and I'm SOOO grateful I made the decision to go to a 90 day, high intensity, restrictive women's only facility!!!! I've met many people who weren't willing to give up their phone or wanted to bring their car and go visit people during rehab so they chose a super laid back program and it did absolutely NO good. if anything, most of them got into MORE trouble and just wasted time and money. They were told they could do all the fun stuff and none of the hard work that builds a foundation for recovery 😓 It's really sad when you think about it. I celebrate 14 months in a few days and i owe SO MUCH to my inpatient program 🖤💞
I think it is important to emphasize that psychedelics can trigger psychotic outbreaks and even bringing things from the unconscious that we did not know we had inside us can be a catalyst to other things that without professional support its very difficult to deal with. even worse, lead us to another relape. etc....Love the podcast!
@AgainstAllOddsPod yes I did! All you said was that he told you that and then said you were disgusting and walked away you didn't say if you stood up and told the room!
Big book thumper here who had to utilize Suboxone this time around because I was pregnant. Tapered successfully years into recovery. I agree with Rachel 100%, it’s a difficult subject and unique to each individual. Worked the steps on Suboxone and off Suboxone and the spiritual reprieve was the same, AND, it prevented me from fully processing trauma until I was at a much lower dose. Regardless it helped save my life and I advocate for it hard in my 12 step community.
Actually I take that back I have no idea if it prevented me from fully processing specific traumas or not, I might have processed them at exactly the right time when I was supposed to. ❤ God bless you guys!
Regardless of “liquid handcuffs” my life was saved due to them handcuffs. Methadone is only as bad as the person who’s being prescribed it I feel like some people just aren’t right for methadone. Bc it’s such a risk for abuse. But it definitely saved me I’ve been on it for 2 years and I’m on 145 mgs which is pretty high and I have none of these limitations
I unfortunately take suboxane and let me tell you guys I HATE IT, I seriously take it. I feel like it’s another addictions and my doctors absolutely sell it, and tell me the whole of well if it’s this instead of dying then your doing goood! But this podcast has also opened my mind a lot, and truly fixing your brain and your connections is a healer too. I don’t want the subs, I want to fix my mind, truly. But I will say it was the best thing for me at the beginning, I tried so many times until I got on subs. I’m a single mom that has to make it I don’t have time to 100% do the work at the beginning. Today is different! So I agree with yours guys in the subs, I take mine the right away, I always have. And I don’t up my amount- I don’t yet high but I feel the come down. So this is solid shit. But how do you get off of it, with a family- two kids, limited support, no father, financials. It’s SO HARD. 😭😭😭 thank you guys for this type of talk! You are all doing the shit! 🤍
hey girl 💞 I know you made this comment months ago lol. but I wanted to give my two cents since nobody else has :-) I have been taking subs for about a year, and just like you I've never ever felt high, but I do notice if I miss a dose or two. I also have to see my doc every 20 days which is so annoying!!! but there is a way to get off of them without having to put everything on hold fo be sick for three weeks!!! I'm currently in the process of tapering my dose, 2 mg at a time. so from 8 twice a day (16), then 6-8 weeks later I dropped to 12, or 6 twice a day, and next month or so I'll drop to 8, etc etc. I do get a lil crabby and sweaty around the second week, but nothing that I have to miss work or can't sleep because of! I was so nervous to start the taper but I've felt really good overall and it's getting me closer to my goal of being totally free! I know you can do it, and if your doctor isn't willing to do it with you then you find a new doctor. ❤ just like you, i NEEDED it at the beginning. I probably wouldn't be in recovery without it. but that doesn't mean it has to be apart of us forever 💜 good luck mama!! sending lots of love and laughter to you and your child/ren🥰
New fave podcast. Thank you for allowing this safe space for people in recovery to share their stories. Just celebrated 10 years on February 1st and living a life of my WILDEST dreams.
Love these sit down chats!! I agree with the convo on MAT & I’m on subs. I think it should be short term use. So many of us were thrown on it, thank God it’s kept us alive, but weren’t given an “exit-plan” or even a time limit. Now I’ve been on it like 3 years. They should have something set up to where if you still need the help, they’ll get you switched to a shot. My dr at the clinic talked me OUT of the shot, saying a lot of insurance won’t approve it, and it’s hard because it’s made to fit each individual, stays refrigerated, & has to be thrown out if patient misses appointment. My theory is, they rather have more suboxone patients, because if they switch to the shot, they lose patients coming in 1-4 times a month, lose that money, and a patient will be on the subs for years versus getting the shot once or twice & being able to stop with little to no withdrawal!!!
What a great podcast, thank you all!
Love this podcast!!
Thank you for your discussion on MAT! Hopefully people’s hearts and minds can be opened to it 🤞🏻
I'm only a third of the way through the epsiode, but I had to stop and think about RJ's comment on centers with higher standards being harder to fill... I've only done inpatient once, and I'm SOOO grateful I made the decision to go to a 90 day, high intensity, restrictive women's only facility!!!! I've met many people who weren't willing to give up their phone or wanted to bring their car and go visit people during rehab so they chose a super laid back program and it did absolutely NO good. if anything, most of them got into MORE trouble and just wasted time and money. They were told they could do all the fun stuff and none of the hard work that builds a foundation for recovery 😓 It's really sad when you think about it. I celebrate 14 months in a few days and i owe SO MUCH to my inpatient program 🖤💞
Great episode 🙌
I am so glad yall touched on plant medicine
I think it is important to emphasize that psychedelics can trigger psychotic outbreaks and even bringing things from the unconscious that we did not know we had inside us can be a catalyst to other things that without professional support its very difficult to deal with. even worse, lead us to another relape. etc....Love the podcast!
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I’m in tears from rjs rehab story- tweaked shit for sure 🤣.
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what are your guys thoughts on going Cali Sober just smoking weed sober from everything else
Have you heard of Ibogaine?
Wait i NEED TO KNOW did he stand up and tell everyone he was disgusting!? How you gonna leave us hanging!
@@amandafaria8369 he did 👀 did you watch the episode?
@AgainstAllOddsPod yes I did! All you said was that he told you that and then said you were disgusting and walked away you didn't say if you stood up and told the room!
I hate taking subs I've. Been on them for years I want to get on the shot and stop
I use to pay cash weekly for methadone then I got on subs I Def want the shot and be done
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Big book thumper here who had to utilize Suboxone this time around because I was pregnant. Tapered successfully years into recovery. I agree with Rachel 100%, it’s a difficult subject and unique to each individual. Worked the steps on Suboxone and off Suboxone and the spiritual reprieve was the same, AND, it prevented me from fully processing trauma until I was at a much lower dose. Regardless it helped save my life and I advocate for it hard in my 12 step community.
Actually I take that back I have no idea if it prevented me from fully processing specific traumas or not, I might have processed them at exactly the right time when I was supposed to. ❤ God bless you guys!
Regardless of “liquid handcuffs” my life was saved due to them handcuffs. Methadone is only as bad as the person who’s being prescribed it I feel like some people just aren’t right for methadone. Bc it’s such a risk for abuse. But it definitely saved me I’ve been on it for 2 years and I’m on 145 mgs which is pretty high and I have none of these limitations
I unfortunately take suboxane and let me tell you guys I HATE IT, I seriously take it. I feel like it’s another addictions and my doctors absolutely sell it, and tell me the whole of well if it’s this instead of dying then your doing goood! But this podcast has also opened my mind a lot, and truly fixing your brain and your connections is a healer too. I don’t want the subs, I want to fix my mind, truly. But I will say it was the best thing for me at the beginning, I tried so many times until I got on subs. I’m a single mom that has to make it I don’t have time to 100% do the work at the beginning. Today is different! So I agree with yours guys in the subs, I take mine the right away, I always have. And I don’t up my amount- I don’t yet high but I feel the come down. So this is solid shit. But how do you get off of it, with a family- two kids, limited support, no father, financials. It’s SO HARD. 😭😭😭 thank you guys for this type of talk! You are all doing the shit! 🤍
hey girl 💞 I know you made this comment months ago lol. but I wanted to give my two cents since nobody else has :-) I have been taking subs for about a year, and just like you I've never ever felt high, but I do notice if I miss a dose or two. I also have to see my doc every 20 days which is so annoying!!! but there is a way to get off of them without having to put everything on hold fo be sick for three weeks!!! I'm currently in the process of tapering my dose, 2 mg at a time. so from 8 twice a day (16), then 6-8 weeks later I dropped to 12, or 6 twice a day, and next month or so I'll drop to 8, etc etc. I do get a lil crabby and sweaty around the second week, but nothing that I have to miss work or can't sleep because of! I was so nervous to start the taper but I've felt really good overall and it's getting me closer to my goal of being totally free! I know you can do it, and if your doctor isn't willing to do it with you then you find a new doctor. ❤ just like you, i NEEDED it at the beginning. I probably wouldn't be in recovery without it. but that doesn't mean it has to be apart of us forever 💜 good luck mama!! sending lots of love and laughter to you and your child/ren🥰