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Oh we hear her OK. And you are correct, she is a brilliant woman. What I DONT hear, is ANYTHING that actually makes me change my mind that Brexit wil! be a fuckup and a disaster.
@@tobymaltby6036 shes mystified why those in the arts and intelligensia she mingles with dont agree with her ayn rand philosophies,,, socialism is evil to her
I haven't heard of Lionel Shriver before. She's a deep thinker. Just lately, watching interviews with intelligent, sensible anti-EU people like her, I've been feeling I am no longer alone. I live in London and no one I know in my circle, apart from me, supports Brexit. I'm looking forward to the next programme with Lionel. I'm still chuckling at two things she said 1) "Populism is democracy when you don't win" 2) "We're used to getting our own way, how dare you!" LOL.
You are not alone, aucourant. You are part of the Great British silent majority. Hope you stay with us and be part of our community of kindred spirits. You're most welcome here.
When the banks were bailed out , that told me everything . I made preparations to avoid austerity outside the EU. My fellow Brexiteers are not so lucky. Educate yourself politically and financially.
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It was one month after the ref. result that the BBC began reporting soft/hard Brexit. Another month later, the BBC was then talking about a second ref. Notice the talk about business ''uncertainty'' has gone away. If we stay another year or two, does this mean ''uncertainty'' will continue and be ongoing?
These discussions are great....totally absent from MSM, please keep up the good work. We will not leave the EU this time, that is increasingly clear - but the important fight will be to keep the pathway to exit opened. I’m certain we will leave because the 17.4m will not go away and the great swindle carried out by the “establishment” will end up in the smashing of our two party political system. Let’s hope so. Buckle up for a long struggle.
Excellent channel, It's so refreshing to listen to people discuss issues freely without the stifling effect of political correctness. Thank you, more of this please.
I always thought remain was more driven by a desire to hobble any Conservative majority. What is now clear is that the Conservatives never meant to go through with Brexit either, so where do we, the majority, who are politically homeless now go?
scott graham you have only one chance of getting close to beating the two major parties, even if you don’t agree with everything they stand for, vote UKIP, the power has to taken away from the two major parties & the majority of the establishment removed.
Lionel really gets what's going on and is able to crystallise it in words. She's spot on. Brendan O'Neill is also able to articulate this establishment revolt against the people.
If we had a reasonable, intelligent political culture, Lionel could have a great contribution to make in government. She is so clear, honest, realistic, brave.
It's basically a lecture, rather than an actual interview. I don't think think Peter 's got the real-time intellectual horsepower to conduct an actual interview....
Practically the entire public sector in a nutshell.... "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell.
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The single market and the customs Union have been a disaster for the UK. The law will kick in now, as we legally left the EU 29th March 11.00pm. The next two weeks are just disgraceful theater., it's over.
@WeirdPlanet108 - The EU is a sinking ship, economically, morally and culturally. The EU Grandmaster Soros even says so. It is so far in debt it cannot get out and if the UK leaves it has no chance as the UK is worth 19 of the smaller members economically. May and the rest of the EU parasites in the so-called Parliament, more like an off-shore office of the EU in reality, want to help save the EU by keeping the UK on the ship. Our politicians are literally agreeing to a suicide pact to try and keep their precious lifestyles and perks without any responsibility. I would be in favour of a military coup by the British Armed Forces until we can get rid of the lot of these traitorous parasites. If Brexit with No Deal does not happen then they have doomed us to drown in EU bullshit and neo-liberal communism whilst being sucked into an economic black hole!!
Yeah I can't wait to get back to those pre-Common Market days... I mean in the mid-70's we had endless powercuts, the three day week, and the cars we made were utter SHIIIIIIIIIITE..... When we were could be bothered to make them at all....
I voted Remain (somewhat reluctantly) and when Leave won I was pretty shell-shocked. But once I got over the shock I realise what a momentous result it really was. We'd been told that leaving was racist, fascist, a little Englander mentality going against the Brave New World of globalised capitalism and open borders, it was going to crush us economically, that it would be apocalyptic. The people voted out anyway. Freedom and self determination is always worth it. But I said then "they won't let it happen". Because to Remain is the choice of the elites, the bankers, the oligarchs and the metropolitan chattering classes, they are so self righteous in their 'wokeness' they can't conceive that ordinary people just want to be British and go their own way. They will not let it happen. Just like they didn't let it happen in France, Holland and Ireland. How dare we mess with their plans for one European government with massive power concentrated in even fewer hands!
As you introduced, Lionel is seen more and more on panel shows and news comment interviews and its nice to her her speak a whole sentence once asked a question without being interrupted or shouted down. Great interviews!
For Mrs. Shriver: With regards to your comments about the NY Times, I think it is accurate to say that most Americans who can think have long since given up subscriptions to the NY Times. In fact, there are many of us who refer to that publication as "a former newspaper". I would suggest that you cease caring about what the NY Times says, or the Washington Post, and just about all US newspapers with the exception of the Wall Street Journal and the Investors' News Daily. They still have a lot of talent which is generally balanced. As for our view of Brexit, I think you would find that we are very sympathetic to the Leavers' points of view, and believe that the UK would do just fine under WTO rules.
I am an artist and free thinker so you're not alone ! The reaction of Leavers has much to do with indigence at being told 'no' followed by a massive virtue signaling opportunity and finally a collective refusal to acknowledge that reality is not 'theirs' to define. My work often explores ideas of cultural expression and identity, one project was so loved by the elites and Guardian readers that the Government Art Collection tried to aquire it. When I revealed the work was inspired by popular Patriotism and National Pride they recoiled, then laughed at my 'joke' and continued to extol its progressive virtues. There's no telling them ! Lol
I've known about Lionel Shriver and enjoyed her writing for many years but judging by her name and short hair drawing in the Spectator I always thought 'she' was a 'he'. Oh my God, I really didn't know I was risking a visit from the thought police for misgendering her for so long!
Lionel is utterly brilliant as she reverses the roles and posits the situation if Remain had won. So very true. I love New Culture Forum. 10 out of 10.
For those of us who feel that our fellow countrymen have undergone some sort of mass hypnosis session to which we weren't invited, it is like stumbling upon a cooling oasis in the desert to hear someone like this who still actually thinks for themselves. I like to feel that my views too are my own - so it worries me slightly that I agree with every word she says!
Avenarius, You have put into words that which I was struggling to do in my mind. 'feel that our fellow countrymen have undergone some sort of mass hypnosis session to which we weren't invited''..That is it exactly It applies to Brexit and the inability to see the threat of Isislam to this country. There is no real rage at Brunei's total adhereance to Sharia Law and total blindness to the possibility that our country will follow when Muslims become a majority which is inevitable. I say that not because I am averse to having people from different countries in my country, but a genuine fear of the morally bankrupt ideology that has the potential to completely disrupt our lives. I envisage immense suffering for people who do not follow the strict 2 gender demands of Islam, unmarried couples, unmarried mothers, suppression of speech, being told what to think, all pubs closed down, state sanctioned animal cruelty, strict control of entertainments The list goes on and on and people cannot believe that this is a tiny remote possibility......Their hypnosis is terrfying me.
Very incisive view of the compliant youth. The two generations who have never been told no (or you lost in the case of Brexit) some from yesteryear still don’t comply, like Roger Daltrey, you see the entitlement shift with Geldof, just a decade or so between them. Gerrymandering works. On tax I have already shrunk my business taking smaller income but at the same time working less for the feckless who squat on my back. You want money you sweat and or take risks. , you don’t get me doing it for you
Lionel Shriver, another brilliant guest, who makes absolute sense. I love her views almost as much as I love her jacket. Both her political opinions and her sartorial elegance are massively impressive.
I asked a Remainer to admit that his adherence to the EU meant he didn't like democracy because the Eurocrats are not accountable to the public. His answer: I don't care, the EU has done good things. Tell that to the Greeks.
I don't make marmalade, but I am in the mix. How people, like myself, can be spoken down to is unimaginable! I don't like the bourgeois concepts underlying the EU, I am pro-democracy! How can a democratic majority be dismissed as populist? Outrage is what I feel!
Populism is just a word for the rebellion against captured left wing institutions. Free speech is populist. Limited immigration is populist. National identity is populist. Left wing populists have institutional support, so the label seems to be used in a less derogatory manner: "The left wing populist government is enacting popular policies to help the people; the right wing populist government is enacting the worst impulses of the revolting peasants".
It’s the sheep syndrome, which exists amongst all groups of society. As Dostoevsky pointed out real individuals are extremely rare. Imagine what Orwell, Huxley, Hayek, von Mises, Shakespeare, Wittgenstein, Hesse, Goethe, Voltaire, Socrates, Schopenhauer, Nietsche, Kafka, Camus, and hundreds of others of the greatest individualist thinkers of all time would have thought about Brexit. Then you have your answer.
Membership of the EU is so important to remainers because they see it as a vehicle for their politics: another layer of bureaucracy that enshrines positive rights and the diversity cult. Membership of the EU makes it even harder to maintain the idea of negative liberty and oppose the concept of immigration as a moral good. It allows for the cultural leftism without allowing for the economic leftism that left wing Brexiteers believe in. They see it as a way to ensure we never move towards being a freer country, only a more "diverse and inclusive" one.
They love it because it's a nice way to undermine their fellow citizens and any chance of the UK moving towards a traditional American conception of liberty. If the EU prevented any further policing of speech and banned additional restrictions of guns rights as a requirement of membership then we would be reliably informed by the media that this is some kind of proto-fascist tyranny.
I have felt over a number of years my life to be trapped in an amalgamation of films such as, The Body Snatchers, Terminator, Ground Hogg Day and television series such as The Prisoner. Finding this youtube channel made me feel quite emotional in a good way, like the film Random Harvest. Keep up the good work
Simply wonderful interview. I have watched it twice now and can really relate to what she is saying. more people need to watch and think about her views. very smart and thought provoking.
Wonderful interviews, Peter. Actually, they’re conversations, which make these programs as intelligent and entertaining as they are. I’ve seen two of them so far - the Lionel Shriver, of course, and your talk with Rod Liddell.
Strong, brave woman of clear thinking and honesty. Love Lionel’s books - she seems to capture the possible future dystopia if we continue on this course.
Goodness me, such an interesting conversation. Loved her 'Brexit reversal' analysis near the beginning, how the Remainers would be feeling and reacting if the vote had gone exactly the other way but a 'Leave' majority MP's in the HoC was trying to ram through leaving the EU, regardless. More of the same or similar conversations, please, with people who can actually think.
Lionel Shriver - a breath of fresh air after so much posturing and histrionics from remainers. It has occurred we've had endless dire economic forecasts from the so-called experts if we leave the EU but silence on future economic projections if we stay. Deutsche Bank is heading into free fall but we hear nothing about the dire state of the EU's economy and the fact that if we stay the EU may take us down with them.
As always, a real encouragement, to hear balanced and intelligent analysis. It is obviously going to get a whole lot worse, before it gets better, but we have to persist with following through on our belief and the result of the referendum and honour what are the people have decided. Incidentally, the choice of colours for your cushions and the background is, slightly, unfortunate!…..
Lionel speaks with great clarity and pragmatism. She raises some great points which I had thought, but not yet admitted to myself. Thanks for the insight.
So happy to hear someone finally make this point about populism, i've been saying the same thing for years to friends (often remainers) who then look at me like i'm insane.
Lionel Shriver, what a fine mind she has, pointing out what should be the obvious to Parliament and the media, but I suppose they don't have the intellect or cognitive ability as Lionel. Enjoy watching her on Question time and my mother has read a number of her books, she has a good and insightful knowledge of the economic and financial world and some of her fictional writings could be end up being prophetic an example "the consequences of the Western fiat currency based financial systems", clever clever woman!
You weren't the only person who thought that even if we got a leave result, we would never be allowed to leave. Many people thought that. And we were right. Right and miserable
When something is labeled populist I listen to it with interest as I expect it to express some self evident truth. The TV media deliberate chooses inarticulate people to express ANY contrarian viewpoint.
There's an American saying: don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining! This is what Parliament and the media is doing. Concerning artists, they can hold unrealistic views because they don't suffer the consequences of their ideas: ordinary people actually have to suffer the consequences of crap thinking.
In any case the master will never tolerate the servant talking back. Since the time of the pyramids its always been about the management of the MENIAL WORKERS. The square mile of the money printers will decide what will happen to the leavers I don't make the rules it is what it is BE well
In all fairness, since the signing of the Lisbon treaty; our government actually signed away the last bastion of power that they had over to the EU. So they've not been governing us for over a decade now! What we're seeing is, in actuality, a reluctance to continue with the facade that they've maintained. From the treaty of Rome onwards, when read in chronological order; each treaty has secretly and incrementally dissolved more and more powers into the EU system, until we have the situation we find ourselves in; where the reality of this is about to come out? In normal circumstances, I feel that a British PM would tell the EU where to go and expose this prolonged act of treason; by our entire establishment! But, in an incredible instance of good fortune for the EU (a little too fortuitous perhaps? But we'll get to that later) we settled on Mrs. May. This was an aggregious and; will soon be seen as, unforgivable mistake by the conservative party; in choice of leadership, but not because she's a remainer? (Of only that was the extent of her unsuitability?) You see Mrs. May has a rather damning skeleton in her closet; that I'm still amazed no one is talking about, or to my knowledge has even stumbled upon? That being her husband Phillip May! Not only have several of the civil servants, Cabinet members and MP's that have quit in the past 2 years; expressed concern over Phillip May's involvement with the brexit process. All of which going as far to say, that Mr. May would scupper any headway made with Brexit they made. But his decision overruled anyone elses in the eyes of the PM. Then we have his involvement with the Miller's (everyone should remember Gina Miller) and their financial consulting firm that Gina and her husband ran (also why I was lead to Phillip May) which raised another red flag! But lastly, we have his involvement with Deutsche Bank, as the chair of their investment advisory committee (fairly innocuous job title you may think? Take it from me, it isn't!) and his sudden resignation a decade ago, right when the German Mortgage crisis came to light the first time; only to be quickly swept under the carpet until last year when it came up again? By now, I'm assuming; you're wondering, what's your point? Well add all these factors together, along with the factor of Phillip May's behaviour and something sinister begins to loom from the fog. (What follows is speculation, based on the facts described above) I feel that Phillip May, very likely could've caused Deutsche Bank's mortgage crisis! Doing a sort of Nick Leason-esque cock up (as it were) on a massive scale. This was covered up by the EU and sat on, until they got all their Christmases at once and Ther-aitor May became PM. Since that time the EU has been able to blackmail her, through her husband; effectively neutering her of any power she may've had? This would explain her completely bizarre decisions, her reluctance to shift on a deal; that she has failed to put through parliament, on 3 occasions now? It also explains her husband's erratic behaviour and her willingness to capitulate to him on every occasion. Like I said this is just a theory, but I really do think someone should be looking into Phillip May; as I feel his presence in cabinet meetings and his influence, should be brought into question?
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Please change the EU colours on your couch n cushions :)
Lionel Shriver is a lady boy. Not everyone`s asleep and brainwashed.
Listen to this fantastically intelligent woman, you remainers. Oh, I forgot, you can't hear her.
She really is fantastically intelligent, a delight to listen to.
She is awesome
Oh we hear her OK. And you are correct, she is a brilliant woman.
What I DONT hear, is ANYTHING that actually makes me change my mind that Brexit wil! be a fuckup and a disaster.
@@tobymaltby6036 shes mystified why those in the arts and intelligensia she mingles with dont agree with her ayn rand philosophies,,, socialism is evil to her
I don't work in arts or intelligensia, and I find Socialism evil too.
Still don't change the fact that a hard Brexit will be an Uber-Cluster-Fuck....
These interviews are simply brilliant. Thank you Peter.
So pleased you think so! :)
Love Lionel Shriver. Thanks for this Peter.
She's superb. Thanks for the comment, Sheila.
How absolutely refreshing to listen to someone that actually thinks for themselves and how sad for that to now be so unusual....
Wonderful woman. Love her clear, calm describing the meaning of democracy, natural human aspiration and rights.
My literary heroine - and now my political heroine! Thank you Lionel.
it`s a lady boy
This channel is a breath of fresh air.
I haven't heard of Lionel Shriver before. She's a deep thinker. Just lately, watching interviews with intelligent, sensible anti-EU people like her, I've been feeling I am no longer alone. I live in London and no one I know in my circle, apart from me, supports Brexit. I'm looking forward to the next programme with Lionel. I'm still chuckling at two things she said 1) "Populism is democracy when you don't win" 2) "We're used to getting our own way, how dare you!" LOL.
You are not alone, aucourant. You are part of the Great British silent majority. Hope you stay with us and be part of our community of kindred spirits. You're most welcome here.
@@NewCultureForum Thank you. Keep up the great work.
An entire generation of children and young adults have been utterly betrayed and continue to be lied to to this day.
She is spot on about hard and soft brexit, never mentioned once during the campaign
What a fascinating woman.
it`s a lady boy
Another superb video. Absolutely loving these interviews, keep up the good work.
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When the banks were bailed out , that told me everything . I made preparations to avoid austerity outside the EU. My fellow Brexiteers are not so lucky. Educate yourself politically and financially.
Hope this channel gains some traction as it has some very good inciteful guests.
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Agree, either would be good, but I’m really enjoying seeing these lesser known guests, especially the different opinions.
*insightful
Lionel Shriver is one of our adopted national treasures.
Absolutely!
...and Stephen fry narrates for others. Shame on him.
Excellent interview. So refreshing.
remarkable woman,great interview.
I found myself agreeing with every word she said, which is rare for me. Hugely insightful, thanks!
It was one month after the ref. result that the BBC began reporting soft/hard Brexit.
Another month later, the BBC was then talking about a second ref.
Notice the talk about business ''uncertainty'' has gone away.
If we stay another year or two, does this mean ''uncertainty'' will continue and be ongoing?
The sudden lack of commentary re business "uncertainty" really is quite remarkable.
These discussions are great....totally absent from MSM, please keep up the good work.
We will not leave the EU this time, that is increasingly clear - but the important fight will be to keep the pathway to exit opened. I’m certain we will leave because the 17.4m will not go away and the great swindle carried out by the “establishment” will end up in the smashing of our two party political system. Let’s hope so. Buckle up for a long struggle.
Excellent channel, It's so refreshing to listen to people discuss issues freely without the stifling effect of political correctness. Thank you, more of this please.
pleasure to listen to this interview, she speaks with measured insight, and straight forward logic, how refreshing.
very logical lady boy
@@strings-n-keys vile. Blocked.
Again very interesting points of view. Thank you.
I always thought remain was more driven by a desire to hobble any Conservative majority. What is now clear is that the Conservatives never meant to go through with Brexit either, so where do we, the majority, who are politically homeless now go?
scott graham you have only one chance of getting close to beating the two major parties, even if you don’t agree with everything they stand for, vote UKIP, the power has to taken away from the two major parties & the majority of the establishment removed.
Excellent interview, Lionel is so interesting.
Thank you, Conrad.
Lionel really gets what's going on and is able to crystallise it in words. She's spot on. Brendan O'Neill is also able to articulate this establishment revolt against the people.
If we had a reasonable, intelligent political culture, Lionel could have a great contribution to make in government. She is so clear, honest, realistic, brave.
Another superb interview, Peter. What an intelligent, thoughtful lady. Keep up the good work; so pleased I subscribed.
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Remainers will thank us in the end - assuming we force the result of the referendum. We must not give up.
And nice that the guests have time to get their point across not being constantly interrupted like they are on BBC etc
It's basically a lecture, rather than an actual interview.
I don't think think Peter 's got the real-time intellectual horsepower to conduct an actual interview....
Practically the entire public sector in a nutshell....
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
Thomas Sowell.
Perfect. I think Thomas Sowell is wonderful!
This was great and she is great. Subscribed.
Did you invite Peter Hitchens on? I'd like to see that. Douglas Murray also.
Stay tuned. We've an exciting line up ahead. :)
And maybe Roger Scruton, Jordan Peterson, Mark Steyn, etc.
Yep Peter H and Douglas Murray please.
Controlled opposition. Get jarred Taylor
Just found the channel loving listening to intelligent people speaking in a calm non shouty manner
Great interview, best new channel I’ve found in a while 👍
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The single market and the customs Union have been a disaster for the UK. The law will kick in now, as we legally left the EU 29th March 11.00pm. The next two weeks are just disgraceful theater., it's over.
WeirdPlanet108 no. Predictably it is a stitch up.
@WeirdPlanet108 - The EU is a sinking ship, economically, morally and culturally. The EU Grandmaster Soros even says so. It is so far in debt it cannot get out and if the UK leaves it has no chance as the UK is worth 19 of the smaller members economically. May and the rest of the EU parasites in the so-called Parliament, more like an off-shore office of the EU in reality, want to help save the EU by keeping the UK on the ship. Our politicians are literally agreeing to a suicide pact to try and keep their precious lifestyles and perks without any responsibility. I would be in favour of a military coup by the British Armed Forces until we can get rid of the lot of these traitorous parasites. If Brexit with No Deal does not happen then they have doomed us to drown in EU bullshit and neo-liberal communism whilst being sucked into an economic black hole!!
Yeah I can't wait to get back to those pre-Common Market days... I mean in the mid-70's we had endless powercuts, the three day week, and the cars we made were utter SHIIIIIIIIIITE.....
When we were could be bothered to make them at all....
I must get around to reading some of Lionel Shriver's books.....she seems to be a very astute observer of what's happening....
You must, Kevin. And she is! :)
I used to hear her reading her work on radio 4, probably not anymore though, sadly.
Sorry to state the obvious, but you need to read We need to talk about Kevin, Kevin
@@bri-annaedwardine1697 Thanks Bri-Anna. My niece delights in saying that to me as well.... lol. I have seen the film if that counts?
They are brilliant.
But she's no political scientist.
Or economist...
I voted Remain (somewhat reluctantly) and when Leave won I was pretty shell-shocked. But once I got over the shock I realise what a momentous result it really was. We'd been told that leaving was racist, fascist, a little Englander mentality going against the Brave New World of globalised capitalism and open borders, it was going to crush us economically, that it would be apocalyptic. The people voted out anyway. Freedom and self determination is always worth it. But I said then "they won't let it happen". Because to Remain is the choice of the elites, the bankers, the oligarchs and the metropolitan chattering classes, they are so self righteous in their 'wokeness' they can't conceive that ordinary people just want to be British and go their own way. They will not let it happen. Just like they didn't let it happen in France, Holland and Ireland. How dare we mess with their plans for one European government with massive power concentrated in even fewer hands!
As you introduced, Lionel is seen more and more on panel shows and news comment interviews and its nice to her her speak a whole sentence once asked a question without being interrupted or shouted down. Great interviews!
Thanks very much, Steve!
For Mrs. Shriver: With regards to your comments about the NY Times, I think it is accurate to say that most Americans who can think have long since given up subscriptions to the NY Times. In fact, there are many of us who refer to that publication as "a former newspaper". I would suggest that you cease caring about what the NY Times says, or the Washington Post, and just about all US newspapers with the exception of the Wall Street Journal and the Investors' News Daily. They still have a lot of talent which is generally balanced. As for our view of Brexit, I think you would find that we are very sympathetic to the Leavers' points of view, and believe that the UK would do just fine under WTO rules.
Yeah just fine... like other WTO countries... like, um..... Mauritius.
I am an artist and free thinker so you're not alone ! The reaction of Leavers has much to do with indigence at being told 'no' followed by a massive virtue signaling opportunity and finally a collective refusal to acknowledge that reality is not 'theirs' to define. My work often explores ideas of cultural expression and identity, one project was so loved by the elites and Guardian readers that the Government Art Collection tried to aquire it. When I revealed the work was inspired by popular Patriotism and National Pride they recoiled, then laughed at my 'joke' and continued to extol its progressive virtues. There's no telling them ! Lol
Thanks, Lionel is one of my heroines!!
I've known about Lionel Shriver and enjoyed her writing for many years but judging by her name and short hair drawing in the Spectator I always thought 'she' was a 'he'. Oh my God, I really didn't know I was risking a visit from the thought police for misgendering her for so long!
Good stuff.
Lionel is utterly brilliant as she reverses the roles and posits the situation if Remain had won. So very true. I love New Culture Forum. 10 out of 10.
So pleased to hear that, Dave. Thanks!
For those of us who feel that our fellow countrymen have undergone some sort of mass hypnosis session to which we weren't invited, it is like stumbling upon a cooling oasis in the desert to hear someone like this who still actually thinks for themselves. I like to feel that my views too are my own - so it worries me slightly that I agree with every word she says!
Great comment. Glad to provide you with a cooling oasis. Hope you'll return. And, no, we are not a mirage! ;)
Avenarius, You have put into words that which I was struggling to do in my mind. 'feel that our fellow countrymen have undergone some sort of mass hypnosis session to which we weren't invited''..That is it exactly It applies to Brexit and the inability to see the threat of Isislam to this country. There is no real rage at Brunei's total adhereance to Sharia Law and total blindness to the possibility that our country will follow when Muslims become a majority which is inevitable. I say that not because I am averse to having people from different countries in my country, but a genuine fear of the morally bankrupt ideology that has the potential to completely disrupt our lives. I envisage immense suffering for people who do not follow the strict 2 gender demands of Islam, unmarried couples, unmarried mothers, suppression of speech, being told what to think, all pubs closed down, state sanctioned animal cruelty, strict control of entertainments The list goes on and on and people cannot believe that this is a tiny remote possibility......Their hypnosis is terrfying me.
I almost skip this episode. Now I am completely glad I watched it and I'll be sharing it with some friends. Great show!
Very incisive view of the compliant youth. The two generations who have never been told no (or you lost in the case of Brexit) some from yesteryear still don’t comply, like Roger Daltrey, you see the entitlement shift with Geldof, just a decade or so between them. Gerrymandering works. On tax I have already shrunk my business taking smaller income but at the same time working less for the feckless who squat on my back. You want money you sweat and or take risks.
, you don’t get me doing it for you
This is a great channel
Great channel, great guests. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, Shaolin Funk (I had to type that out in full as I think it's a super moniker!)
Lionel Shriver, another brilliant guest, who makes absolute sense. I love her views almost as much as I love her jacket. Both her political opinions and her sartorial elegance are massively impressive.
I see you're sporting quite a snazzy jacket yourself, James!
@@NewCultureForum Why, thank you. Much appreciated. Love the show by the way. Keep up the good work!
What a wonderful channel! I look forward to more.
I asked a Remainer to admit that his adherence to the EU meant he didn't like democracy because the Eurocrats are not accountable to the public. His answer: I don't care, the EU has done good things. Tell that to the Greeks.
I don't make marmalade, but I am in the mix. How people, like myself, can be spoken down to is unimaginable! I don't like the bourgeois concepts underlying the EU, I am pro-democracy! How can a democratic majority be dismissed as populist? Outrage is what I feel!
Brilliant!
Populism is just a word for the rebellion against captured left wing institutions.
Free speech is populist. Limited immigration is populist. National identity is populist.
Left wing populists have institutional support, so the label seems to be used in a less derogatory manner: "The left wing populist government is enacting popular policies to help the people; the right wing populist government is enacting the worst impulses of the revolting peasants".
It’s the sheep syndrome, which exists amongst all groups of society. As Dostoevsky pointed out real individuals are extremely rare. Imagine what Orwell, Huxley, Hayek, von Mises, Shakespeare, Wittgenstein, Hesse, Goethe, Voltaire, Socrates, Schopenhauer, Nietsche, Kafka, Camus, and hundreds of others of the greatest individualist thinkers of all time would have thought about Brexit. Then you have your answer.
just found your channel its brilliant, very good discussion with smart lady
I like very much how well you listen to your guests. Very respectful interviewing is not common enough.
Membership of the EU is so important to remainers because they see it as a vehicle for their politics: another layer of bureaucracy that enshrines positive rights and the diversity cult. Membership of the EU makes it even harder to maintain the idea of negative liberty and oppose the concept of immigration as a moral good. It allows for the cultural leftism without allowing for the economic leftism that left wing Brexiteers believe in. They see it as a way to ensure we never move towards being a freer country, only a more "diverse and inclusive" one.
They love it because it's a nice way to undermine their fellow citizens and any chance of the UK moving towards a traditional American conception of liberty. If the EU prevented any further policing of speech and banned additional restrictions of guns rights as a requirement of membership then we would be reliably informed by the media that this is some kind of proto-fascist tyranny.
Great guest
Thanks, Michael.
This channel is so refreshing. This is what I want to see on a sunday morning on the BBC.
I have felt over a number of years my life to be trapped in an amalgamation of films such as, The Body Snatchers, Terminator, Ground Hogg Day and television series such as The Prisoner.
Finding this youtube channel made me feel quite emotional in a good way, like the film Random Harvest.
Keep up the good work
thank you peter great interviewer great quests .
Love this channel
Gosh, what a bloody good channel! So refreshing for the interviewer to let the interviewee speak.
Simply wonderful interview. I have watched it twice now and can really relate to what she is saying. more people need to watch and think about her views. very smart and thought provoking.
Tuning in from Ireland. Excellent show. Great host and wonderful interviewees. I'm a fan, keep up the good work.
Brilliant interview with Lionel Shriver. I knew there was a reason why I've read and enjoyed all her books.
Only just come across this talk show.Wow absolutely fantastic content .Well done.Please carry on.It is just so refreshing.Thank you so so much.
Lionel is awesome, always!
Agreed!
Wonderful interviews, Peter. Actually, they’re conversations, which make these programs as intelligent and entertaining as they are.
I’ve seen two of them so far - the Lionel Shriver, of course, and your talk with Rod Liddell.
Thanks very much for the lovely comment!
Strong, brave woman of clear thinking and honesty. Love Lionel’s books - she seems to capture the possible future dystopia if we continue on this course.
Goodness me, such an interesting conversation. Loved her 'Brexit reversal' analysis near the beginning, how the Remainers would be feeling and reacting if the vote had gone exactly the other way but a 'Leave' majority MP's in the HoC was trying to ram through leaving the EU, regardless. More of the same or similar conversations, please, with people who can actually think.
I've enjoyed yet another and thanks
Pleasing chat, great jacket!
Outstanding!
Lionel Shriver - a breath of fresh air after so much posturing and histrionics from remainers. It has occurred we've had endless dire economic forecasts from the so-called experts if we leave the EU but silence on future economic projections if we stay. Deutsche Bank is heading into free fall but we hear nothing about the dire state of the EU's economy and the fact that if we stay the EU may take us down with them.
As always, a real encouragement, to hear balanced and intelligent analysis. It is obviously going to get a whole lot worse, before it gets better, but we have to persist with following through on our belief and the result of the referendum and honour what are the people have decided. Incidentally, the choice of colours for your cushions and the background is, slightly, unfortunate!…..
"We are used to getting our way .......how dare you !" .......that is exactly what the reaction and the problem is. Well said, Ms Shriver
Lionel speaks with great clarity and pragmatism. She raises some great points which I had thought, but not yet admitted to myself. Thanks for the insight.
She's brilliant! You go girl 💗🇬🇧
Always enjoy listening to Lionel
More great work, Peter Whittle. Keep it up, sir!
The more I watch your channel, Peter Whittle, the more highly I think of you. You are, in your role, an excellent interviewer and thinker.
So happy to hear someone finally make this point about populism, i've been saying the same thing for years to friends (often remainers) who then look at me like i'm insane.
Lionel Shriver Is brilliant full stop
PLEASE interview this great articulate and intelligent lady again, an update on the anti democratic MPs behaviour to stop our BREXIT.
Love Lionel. Thierry Baudet next please. :)
Lionel Shriver, what a fine mind she has, pointing out what should be the obvious to Parliament and the media, but I suppose they don't have the intellect or cognitive ability as Lionel. Enjoy watching her on Question time and my mother has read a number of her books, she has a good and insightful knowledge of the economic and financial world and some of her fictional writings could be end up being prophetic an example "the consequences of the Western fiat currency based financial systems", clever clever woman!
Great lady.
I hear you , Lioness !!
You weren't the only person who thought that even if we got a leave result, we would never be allowed to leave. Many people thought that. And we were right. Right and miserable
When something is labeled populist I listen to it with interest as I expect it to express some self evident truth.
The TV media deliberate chooses inarticulate people to express ANY contrarian viewpoint.
Excellent. Subscribed. I will watch everything you produce. Just a bit bothered that the sofa and cushions resembled the EU flag.
There's an American saying: don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining! This is what Parliament and the media is doing. Concerning artists, they can hold unrealistic views because they don't suffer the consequences of their ideas: ordinary people actually have to suffer the consequences of crap thinking.
In any case the master will never tolerate the servant talking back.
Since the time of the pyramids its always been about the management of the MENIAL WORKERS.
The square mile of the money printers will decide what will happen to the leavers
I don't make the rules it is what it is
BE well
In all fairness, since the signing of the Lisbon treaty; our government actually signed away the last bastion of power that they had over to the EU. So they've not been governing us for over a decade now! What we're seeing is, in actuality, a reluctance to continue with the facade that they've maintained.
From the treaty of Rome onwards, when read in chronological order; each treaty has secretly and incrementally dissolved more and more powers into the EU system, until we have the situation we find ourselves in; where the reality of this is about to come out?
In normal circumstances, I feel that a British PM would tell the EU where to go and expose this prolonged act of treason; by our entire establishment! But, in an incredible instance of good fortune for the EU (a little too fortuitous perhaps? But we'll get to that later) we settled on Mrs. May.
This was an aggregious and; will soon be seen as, unforgivable mistake by the conservative party; in choice of leadership, but not because she's a remainer? (Of only that was the extent of her unsuitability?)
You see Mrs. May has a rather damning skeleton in her closet; that I'm still amazed no one is talking about, or to my knowledge has even stumbled upon? That being her husband Phillip May!
Not only have several of the civil servants, Cabinet members and MP's that have quit in the past 2 years; expressed concern over Phillip May's involvement with the brexit process. All of which going as far to say, that Mr. May would scupper any headway made with Brexit they made. But his decision overruled anyone elses in the eyes of the PM.
Then we have his involvement with the Miller's (everyone should remember Gina Miller) and their financial consulting firm that Gina and her husband ran (also why I was lead to Phillip May) which raised another red flag!
But lastly, we have his involvement with Deutsche Bank, as the chair of their investment advisory committee (fairly innocuous job title you may think? Take it from me, it isn't!) and his sudden resignation a decade ago, right when the German Mortgage crisis came to light the first time; only to be quickly swept under the carpet until last year when it came up again?
By now, I'm assuming; you're wondering, what's your point? Well add all these factors together, along with the factor of Phillip May's behaviour and something sinister begins to loom from the fog.
(What follows is speculation, based on the facts described above)
I feel that Phillip May, very likely could've caused Deutsche Bank's mortgage crisis! Doing a sort of Nick Leason-esque cock up (as it were) on a massive scale. This was covered up by the EU and sat on, until they got all their Christmases at once and Ther-aitor May became PM. Since that time the EU has been able to blackmail her, through her husband; effectively neutering her of any power she may've had? This would explain her completely bizarre decisions, her reluctance to shift on a deal; that she has failed to put through parliament, on 3 occasions now? It also explains her husband's erratic behaviour and her willingness to capitulate to him on every occasion.
Like I said this is just a theory, but I really do think someone should be looking into Phillip May; as I feel his presence in cabinet meetings and his influence, should be brought into question?
Don't stop her there, hurry up with part 2.
Part 2 will be released on Sunday.
a girl after my own heart, love everything about her