I try to learn to fly 3D for the first time.. Rip my GoPro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- So as you know, I almost only fly drones "right side up" -- that is the props and motors are only pushing air down one direction. In this video, I explore how had it is to fly 3D mode and fly the drone upside down. @ZoeFPV and @captainvanover inspired me to try it on a recent @RotorRiot trip to San Diego, and I'm excited to have a go. I think that this is going to end up being part 1 of a multi-part series, since it's going to take a minute to learn how to fly well enough to make something interesting.
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Great attempt young grasshopper. Many batteries left before the student becomes the master. *bows in honor*
*bows back*
Ms. Miyagi teach us your ways.
Probably the most excited I've ever been scrolling to hopefully see zoes comment on this. much love yall, and also loving the "quarantine videos" lately nurk mad props
Dear Nurk, dont even try it , only a woman"s mind can make sense of such madness ; )
Zoe is 3D FPV Royalty
i use a self centering stick for 3D just to make it easier on my brain.
I started on 3d heli and would love to try 3d FPV. Thanks for the raw share of your experience.
I can definitely see how you’re a professional, you picked that up so quickly!!
Excellent!!! I got very excited watching you go through the gap between trees. Very happy to see the pros are entering 3D world. Can't wait next episode.
That's the goal right? Gotta make a story out of it so that we together get to share in the excitement!
This was really fun. I love watching people try 3D for the first time.
Awesome fun video. Very smooth transitions and upside down flights, especially for first timer. Thanks for all the fun videos. Shows me what's possible. I'm still working on normal flips and rolls. Happy flying 💖🤓
Dude you actually did really good at your first attempt at 3D , i know when i tried it it was disastrous and i never tried again lol , awesome bro 👍👍
That!!! Scream!!! When you flip over is crazy insane
I'm torn. I'm a commercial Heli/private fixed wing pilot, currently grounded, and just beginning my FPV journey. I'm hoping to have my first quad soon. Having watched the few 3d videos (yours, Zoe's, Rotor Riot's), I'm 90% sure that the secret I learned to inverted flying will translate to flying quads. However I don't want to give it away before I'm 100% sure and I am hoping to focus on 3d flying, so who knows, it might be my claim to fame in the FPV world :P. I'll try to get a 3d capable quad as soon as I can so that I can share with the world if the physics line up.
How goes your fpv journey, sir?
Now i'm glad i started with 6Ch Heli , and Eleven years after that , i saw Some of Your Video . Now here i'm ... On The Drone. xd
So sick! I not gonna lie, i scrolled down in search of Zoe Fpv comment.. 😅😁
Oh hai ;)
What? The legendary 3D Queen is here.. 😱
haha was about to say - she's around here somewhere..
LMAO! That intro was great! I have found the best way to start is line of site to recognize throttle points and then go in the goggles. After that, we only stay inverted for .5 to 2 seconds then get upright. Do that untill you are a pro, then try other things like hovering inverted, forward and backwards flight. Then you will be flying 3D DamFast!
this is what Ive been waiting for ! awesome video , great flight
So fun to watch..I have a couple sets of the Zoe 3d props but figure I'll do the sim thing first in Liftoff ..cheaper and less repair time trying to get used to flying upside down using throttle like a collective pitch heli...😷
the reverse throttle sounded like a choo choo train
I'd imagine somewhere on the way to Nurk's house right now, there is a postal truck toting some Zoe Zurple Gemfan 3D Props. When they seen the name Nurkkala on the order, they went into their secret stash and got out some of the props with the extra Unicorn dust in them that adds +100 magic GoPro crash protection. Looking forward to more 3D vids!
Nice
Try flipping two props upside down and leave the other two right side up. Equal thrust booth directions. No 3D props needed. Boom!
3D is something Ive thought about and think that it could be the most complete freedom of flying a drone but I just don't want to feel like a noob again and I haven't even achieved what I want to flying normal.
That should be soooooo weird at the first lipos 😂
The next level of freestyle, git gud blackbird :p
Nice sticker on the TX!
i'm learning 3d too. QUICK TIP - set your throttle using a pot. I turn mine down to 70% and make good progress.
Where are all the people??? How is it possible that such huge green field is empty of any person? In my place, even in the desert you don't have a privacy))) Very nice video!!
Craaack 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Maybe I'm crazy but wouldn't centering springs be a good idea for 3d tx's
Really nice for a first try. Just need them props and your set. Should of tried the 2 upside down props like Zoe did. But still can't tell if it was actually an April fool's or not lol
I loved watching this! I guess, I will need to convert one of mine also! thanks for this inspirational video
Seriously... zoe did this and it works. Flip any 2 diagonally opposite prop upside down. It will fly so much better with non 3d props.
i will try it out!
@@NURKFPV I assume you've seen her video about it. Was supposed to be an April fools joke but the joke was on her because it actually worked. 🤣🤣🤣
That looks really challenging!!
3D is my fave. A whole nother dimension to twist your brain cells :)
Great video thanks for the inspiration and knowledge... waiting to get my first fpv drone, just got the mavic mini a few months ago
Great start Nurk. I'm guessing by the sound you used standard props for that first flight as when inverted it was screaming with such a loud screech. If you really want to get more practice while inside get yourself something like a Flourien H101, they are well cheap and toy grade but it will give you a better way to get used to the controls, or you can use Liftoff and fly inverted without a real life drone.
Screw around with it in Liftoff first, 3D props are not hard FPV (wouldn't do it myself LOS) and no sacrificing real life parts to build up the skillz. Spring load your throttle back to center, that's probably my biggest problem because I'm too lazy to do it. When you want to kill all throttle your motor memory has you slamming the stick all the way down, which is of course all the way in reverse, so you need that spring back to center on throttle. Changing your motor memory that throttle center is zero throttle is probably the hardest barrier to get around.
3D is fun but not as useful as one would think it would be (yet! anyway), mostly because of camera angle. If I had multiple cameras and camera angles, it would be way more flyable. With only one camera stuck at an angle of 45, I end up going back to Acro mode for relaxing cruising with more throttle travel and therefore throttle resolution under and around tree trunks.
Add more front facing cameras to a 3D quad, esp. a beast class, and you have one aerobatic monster. Try setting your cam angle at 0 for 3D aerobatics, see if that helps. Otherwise like with my favorite 45 cam angle, reverse actually has you going down AND backwards (visually in the view finder).
Really for 3D flying what we need, is a video feed like the old skool full page displays, with the 0 angle centerline splitting the middle of the screen. That way to fly fast with tilt forward, your eyes can move to the top of the screen... to fly fast backwards at tile, your eyes visually can move down to the bottom of the screen. I'm theorizing but I think it might work. So I'd be trying to build some wild custom ground station to fly 3D out of a flatpanel computer display turned 90 degrees and sunshade:
www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=707&ei=a8uLXvfuHOPr_Qa-7byYCA&q=full+page+display&oq=full+page+display
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You`ll make it, you´re the best XD
Quick question. Would neutral throttle be in the middle position now instead of the bottom? Thank you. Food for thought; This could be a new challenge in certain legs of a drone race.
I just started 3d too! Crazy awesome!
Sykk vid kidd👊🏾
So cool. Gotta build me a 3D rig now!
Is it a thing where you can put it on a switch for normal thrust/3d to maintain throttle throw/resolution? Instead of the half and half. That would be cool.
Great video... thank you! There is so much potential with 3D to make mind blowing videos... when are we going to be seeing 3D bandos on a regular base?
Two questions: Is 3D legal in racing and would using it for turns improve lap times due to not having to 'flip over'? For example doing "S" turns without having to roll to the other side... or not having to flip over to complete a Split S...Hmm....
A dive upside down then stalling at the bottom and reversing back up through something would be sick af
Definitely going to be experimenting with it a little bit.
Before trying to thread between things try turning upside down and doing orbits since theoretically your turn ing is reversed as well
Great job,,throttle management will be easier especially inverted with 3D props. When doing freestyle I sometimes get so disoriented all I see is blue sky so I set up a bailout switch which basicaly goes to angle mode with added throttle programmed for a mild to moderate climb till I get my orientation back. I practice Line of Sight too which is useful.
Old Bullnose Probs also work fine in 3D
My God, I finally got OK at flying prop side up now I have to figure out how to do it backwards and upside down? ????? LOL
Nice flying for first 2 batteries. Watch out Zoe Fpv 😮
Sounds like a screaming Banshee 😂
Would flying 3D possibly affect your normal racing ? Muscle memory get thrown off maybe ?
I just wish there was a possibility to set a 3D mode on the AUX switch, just like we can set angle mode.
That's how I have all my quads setup :) They default to non 3D mode, and I flip a switch before I arm to turn it on.
@@ZoeFPV do you happen to have a setup video?
@@graydi66y Yup- check my main page out on youtube, it has videos on setup. Also rotor riots 3D setup video covers everything :D
@@ZoeFPV thanks Zoe! 👍👊
Can I ask a question you know vr with the 360 camera could there not be a vr drone so when you fly you can look up down left right as if you sitting ir riding the drone would that not make it crazy real just wondering because you could upload and other people could ride along and while you did the flying I could put on vr look up down left etc that wot I would call realD flying
So like, for altitude management.......when you switch to 3d and set a throttle expo, does it apply it to both throttle ranges? or do you get a seperate one for each? or do you have just a big squiggly line in the throttle expo graph????????
Is there any special esc for 3d or can i do the same with my mamba F405 MK2 + F40?
Props won't come off when throttled upside down??
My motors just seemed to shut down. Any clues where I set up wrong. Admittedly I didn't change any deadband in motors tab or reciever bc idk. Betaflight 4.3.2
So where do you break your gopro in the video?
What happened with the second part? 🙂 Did I just miss it, or are we still waiting?
still waiting ;-)
@@NURKFPV Thought so. No worries, happy to wait! 😄
Are you CODING? or just taking notes to keep track of what you did/changed?
Cant understand what is it for flying upside down??
I would like advice on which new radio to buy today. i have a tinyhack, but later i will buy a digital system (vr dji and whoop hd). I'm undecided whether to be on the safe side and therefore a frsky x9d pro or on a radiomaster tx16s or jumper t16 pro. the radiomaster looks tempting for the price, but I don't know if to trust it. also because around there are videos showing the radiomaster tx tsg8 model which is poorly assembled and lacks components compared to the t8sg jumper. others say that frsky is an obsolete radio, so it has been announced that updates will no longer be released about 3 months ago. so what to buy?
I'll go change the setting of my FC firmware and ESC's and try ^^
Also people should go check out Erodyo.
Nice. Now push the industries to focus more on 3D. :D Need to start flying my 3" inn 3D. :D
I really need to try 3d. I'm such a chicken
Oh my
I am shaking and I not doing anything 🙂 Also the camera angle 🤔 What you supposed to do with it? I guess 0 degrees?
it was more like 10 degrees for normal flight
I have run regular props a fair bit for when I want more regular upright flying for effcient flying and sparingly use 3D mode.
I do have 3D props as well and while it makes for pretty equal flying both upright and inverted it really kills my upright flying time versus normal props.
I have had good luck with DAL 5249 Cyclones and Azure 6040 props for 3D use, at extreme throttles in reverse they are pretty unhappy but they can work better than any of the HQV1S props I have tried.
That cavitating you hear on reverse punch outa is a sign of being super unhappy. Worst cavitating I have ever heard was trying DAL 6040 Cyclones. GOD AWFUL HORRIBLE.
I need a liquid cooled setup i live in Arizona and fly every day is this possible ? Menace
How did 3D come to mean reverse thrust when we know stereo vision goggles are coming.
whats that sticker on your tx
I feel the ultimate cheater that will do away with the need for a 3D rig will come from the Insta 360 One R. The instant I saw what they did with it on a DJI mavic making for a completely invisible drone I knew what is coming. StanFPV's cinebird is an amazing piece of work because he was able to put it all together with an existing 360cam and hide a drone in the blind spot.
Freestyle rigs with the aerial edition 360 One R will completely change how we can manipulate shots. 3D easy mode in post along with easy backwards shots along with offering some other things I dont think we have seen yet.
Would it be beneficial to have self centering throttle stick ?
Depends. a lot of us use the throttle instead of a pre-arm to keep from accidentally arming. Especially when racing where being able to get back in the air in a timely manner after crashing can make or break you. I keep pretty much the same transmitter setup for freestyle and racing so it's easier to swap between the 2.
I think it's all just a matter of getting used to it ya know?
🤯
You probably have lots of GoPro :-) interesting! Not sure it adds much to the flying, shooting upside down is rarely better.
after this....you gotta challenge the whole crue to a total inverted race!!! put a coupple gates in the mix that gotta be hit upside right!!! lol!!! and then every one has ta suk a 6 pack for round 2!!! lol!!! tall boys not no 10 oz beers!!!!
So cool nurk try me 3d fpv again!!
Is your cam set horizontally?
it was slightly up tilted for normal flight
Is the pitch and roll the same when flying upside down or are they reversed too?
Serious? What do you think?
Jeffrey Schouten erm yes, I usually fly planes inverted and it's the same way, but I've never flown a quad 3D, so instead of a sarcastic condescending remark, how's about you tell me the answer...
Would you recommend the DJI system for freestyle?
Hi Nurk, is it possible to bind a dji BNF flywoo with a transmeter jumper tsg8 v2 plus?? (multiprotocol)
Thank you
dji air unit can only be bound to dji remotes
@@clinicallymanic hi, according to drone camp, it can be bind with an multiprotocol, its an rx as any else, only the unit air works with dji goggle.
Need a notch at 0 throttle on the radio !!!
And you deserve to smash that gopro .. dji hd is good enough for that kind of experiment!!!!
Learn to fly helis in the sim, switch to fpv and fly the heli in the sim, then it should be pretty easy ti fly it
I noticed that your GPS is unchecked.. LMAO
Is 3D bad for the esc or any other components or not
nope
Normal esc direction should be changed to 3d reversed for reasons I don't understand
BLHeli implementation was botched- the DSHOT protocol was created by the Flyduino developers at the time, and it works correctly on KISS... but for some reason the implementation by BLHeli devs mucked it up.
I fly 2d and 3d. Different animalss
That's a mind fu*k
do your batteries get killed faster on that setup since the props arent as efficient upside down?
yes, that, and stopping and starting the props in the air also
Flip over 2 props so you have under thrust and over all time
I'll give it a go!
@@NURKFPV it works bro
Someone needs to add a single notch at throttle center. Keep in mind you've cut your throttle resolution in half (doubled the sensitivity), too. Nice 3d tree gap. Looking forward to progress!
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At last...
Looks like you still had some camera angle. Try zero.
It’s not your throttle it’s your camera angle you’re having a problem with
it'll be no time before you do a lot more than you set out for
Maybe artificial horizon will help.
You should use that awful Reverse throttle sound for your outro. Cause everyone uses normal quad punch out sounds
Make some cinematic edits
DON T CALL IT 3D ONLY 2 OR 3 CAMS ARE CAPABLE TO DUAL IMAGES SIDE BY SIDE ON GOGGLES.NO STEREO NO 3D!