I'm from the Philippines and bought a BYD Sealion 6 Dmi for Php 1,548,000 ($40,691 Australian Dollars). It is an awesome car wirh an insane price! We actually bought two ha ha ha 😊. An arctic white and azure blue. The dealer also gave us the 7Kw wall chargers for free, aside from the portable chargers ... fantastic!
I saw an arctic white in one of the restaurant parking lots in Perth recently and it was stunningly beautiful. If not for the fact that I have already got an Atto 3 from BYD one and a half year ago, I would definitely go and get the BYD sea lion.
@@yslee1401I certainly hope for you that you were not writing out of your own terribly sad experience of selling your past used Non-BYD vehicles. Non-BYD? Because from your comment, you would never own one anyway!
I have had the sealion 6 premium for 4 weeks and traveled 1726 km. I have used 336 kWh and 10 litres. I have an 8c tariff with ovo so $27 in electricity and $23 in petrol. So $50 for 1726 km. For comparison a RAV4 would go 417 km for $50 assuming $2 per litre and 6l/100km
Definitely a better purchase than the expensive outdated RAV 4 hybrids. However, your real competition is the Haval H6 Ultra Hybrid as it has the exact same range for $10k less. Yes, 1700km in that car would cost $160 in fuel, not $50. However, the $10,000 saving left in the mortgage offset account would take 13 years before our cars broke even at 10,000km/year. You never have to charge a conventional hybrid, in that time you would have had to charge it at least 141 times/year. PHEVs & EVs simply aren't financially worth it, it's purely for the fun of driving in EV mode. Good on you for being able to enjoy that EV experience for much longer.
Love BYD. Korean and Japanese brand took 10 years to have good interior but at 30% more then BYD seal. Chinese car makers are a serious threat to main stream brands which are partially responsible for inflation due to their price gouging.
@@yslee1401 They will when spare parts logistic is running and their mechanic know how to fix them. Resell value are driven by uncertainty as Japanese and Korean deal with them as well in the past.
@@yulusleonard985 BYD ATTO3 battery failure case in Canberra exemplifies BYDs attitude towards honouring warranty claims. Poor owner had to wait 3 weeks and media intervention before BYD agreed to replace the failed battery. The replacement battery only came 3 months later. So much for after sales support. They can’t match the Gold standard of Japanese cars
For someone who does primarily local driving and only occasional trips over 80kms I often wonder what impact the lack of use of the petrol engine has on its long term performance if, say, it winds up being idle for weeks at a time. We only do road trips about 3 times per year on average but for those road trips an EV can be a little restrictive especially when looking for charging options off the main highway routes so a PHEV seems ideal but we may not need the petrol engine much in between those road trips hence my question above.
When I was looking into the Outlander PHEV, I found out that the system will activate the ICE unit as required to keep things moving. It would have a negligible effect on fuel use overall.
You're basically wasting money on this. A Haval H6 hybrid Ultra has the exact same range for $10k less and you never have to plug it in (bigger boot & more features). Either go conventional hybrid or go full EV. A plug in hybrid doesn't make any sense as you'll be lugging around an extra 500kg if you don't plug it in everyday. If you do plug it in everyday, why do you need that petrol tank and ICE drive train to maintain and lug around? Just go full EV with the Sealion 7 due to come out around Christmas and only charge it once a fortnight instead of every second day.
Hi Tom. Loved the Premium car but found that the steering was way too light, and I found it vague. Did you find that and if so, how long did it take you to get used to it
For those that don’t know, there’s a very good chance these will be Toyotas new hybrid motors as well and will be used in the next generation Corolla and rav 4s. This is technically, well mechanically speaking, what the new rav 4 will bring to the table. The Corolla will use a 1.5 turbo hybrid motor set-up with bigger battery. This will result in more time in “electric mode” so to speak.
@@iBlogGadget publications from Japanese motor magazines have stipulated 1.5 turbo hybrids motors to be used in the next generation Corolla. Watch Kirk kreifels channel. Pretty much the motor in this sealion 6.
@@Nightster7777 be careful on what you are doing. BYD accused Canberra owner of ATTO3 not charging their vehicle to 80% thereby inadvertently causing the battery to fail while going at 100km/h. Stop giving them excuses for not honouring battery warranty
@@zzz-pe3mp both. BYD Canberra must be whispering Dixie from their behind. The software must be smart enough to guide the owner. Maybe it’s because they are using Huawei’s Symphony OS which is sub-standard by any standard
@@jasonjarvis7623 Sure, Toyota has been making cars since the 1930s. There would be plenty of articles on that. ATTO3 couple in Canberra thought that they bought an electric dream car but ended up with a life threatening nighmare that lasted more than 9 months
No one does a ride test for rear passengers, maybe it’s something you can look at. I found This BYD SUV fine in the front but a bit “bumpy” in the back
That's a really good suggestion - for all reviews. I'm also a fan of the original "Moose Test", where the car is fully loaded and then has to do a swerve and recover manoeuvre (resembling the effort you'd take to avoid a random moose on a highway). It's quite surprising to see how many cars have very poor handling when loaded.
@@yslee1401 No that is bullshit. You are on every video about any Chinese car just spewing poison so obviously you have an agenda which is not compatible with delivering thoughfull dependable viewpoint.
Have done 3700km sat in the back, not bumpy at all in the back. Much better ride than my old Forester. And way smoother than over bumps than my Skoda Octavia (bit too firm)
2 seconds in and I'm triggered! This is not China's Rav4 It's BYD. You people need to give BYD credit where it is due. Hence why Toyota are now going to use BYD PHEV Systems. You're better than this Tom!
Great video as always Tom. It would be awesome if you did a comparison of this to the outlander phev to try and derive where that extra value sits (if anywhere...).
Bit of a head scratcher for me is that they saw fit to put an opening panoramic sunroof with a powered shade but didn’t include lumbar support? I was impressed with the AWD Sealion until I got to highway speeds. There was a dull, low frequency thudding in the cabin at 100km/h. It may have been the tires fitted, and I have the dealer investigating. But it would prevent me buying one of these at the moment.
Sounds like standard Chinese refinement. Low speeds they are often just ok but at higher speeds on rougher surfaces you get weird noises and a lot of bobbing with suspension etc.
@@jasonjarvis7623 you did not clean the drain holes as routine maintenance. Read the freaking manual (RTFM). BYD sunroof leaks because it goes out of alignment quickly due to the poor quality of design and manufacturing
the cheapest BYD PHEV sells for $15,000 in China and this car sells for $25000 in China so no it's not too cheap in Australia. they are actually making good money. This is what happens when you own the whole supply chain from battery to components to smelter to LCD screens.
The additional price increase might not be due to BYD but costs from sea freight, import tax and dealer mark-up. The Australian distributor is a local franchise and not part of BYD company.
@@yslee1401How do you know that? Is it from rumours or your own experience? A used car can be chosen to be sold in low price for willing buyer and even that it still has value, albeit low, isn't it? So, what do you mean by no resale value?
@@leonchu4330 for people that bought PRC vehicles a couple of years ago and have personally witnessed GWM Utes with around 50,000kms/2 years that got passed on at public auctions for an asking price of AUD2k
@@leonchu4330 why would I want to own one of these inferno traps? Rented one before, horrible ride especially the rear. The rental company personnel told me that they will switch back to Toyota and Hyundai when those BYDs reach 2 years old as they are really expensive to maintain
@@leonchu4330he’s a troll poster who comments negative comments on every single BYD video to try trash it. Have a look at chasing cars’ other videos. Her needs a better hobby
He's pained to describe the good aspects of another wise excellent car.....that's so typical of almost all Australian car reviewers....imagine the oozing praises had this been a German auto
i test drived the awd version, on paper it gets 0-100 in 6 sec. At medium balanced power mode i can get pass 50 in way less than 3 sec from red light, scares me due to amount of speed cameras in nsw. the sales guy claims in two months time three speeding tickets got issued to those test drove this car. so for a two ton suv, awd version is powerful for the price.
Thanks for the review Tom. It's understandable that this car accounted for half of BYD's sales in August. However, *a significant limitation of the BYD Sealion 6 is the payload: only 410kg!* Once you put 5 people on board, or even just 4 adults, you have little capacity to carry any luggage. By contrast, the Outlander PHEV has a payload of 600-630 kg. Even the CX5 has a payload of 480kg (which is still fairly limited).
@@yslee1401 Don't just make a broad statement without showing us the statistics. The resale of the Atto 3 (being their first vehicle released in the Australian market) is holding up quite well but happy to be corrected.
@@bobbyrodil6371 oh really? ATTO3 owner in Canberra disagrees. Their rusty PRC crapped on them while going at 100 km/h. BYD refused battery replacement warranty for 3 weeks until media intervened. They waited 3 months before battery arrived and another 2 weeks for replacement
Great to see you finally mention proce gouging. You could a top of the line RAV4 Hybrid for under 50k just a few years ago. This car is a return to common sense pricing. Hopefully the established players learn the lesson.
@@candlelarbra5212 RAV4 HEV and NX350H happens to have the highest resale value amongst high volume vehicles globally. Nothing BYD can do to catch up as no one trusts PRC brands
@@candlelarbra5212 only for China domestic models which are low volume vehicle that does not sell well. High volume sellers outside PRC with ultra high resale value does not have any Chinese DNA at all
BYD selling cars that have been registered in China a year or more, keeping them in car yards to get CCP New Energy Vehicle subsidy, converting them to Right Hand Drive for markets like UK/NZ/AU/MY/SG/TH is a normal practice
Well the factory tyres are really poor quality especially if you get the more powerful version - expect a ~$1500-$2000 replacement cost if you prefer better tyres for family safety.
@@yslee1401 *shrug* To each their own. My BiL has an ATTO3 and since it was first released in Aust and it's not missed a beat for them and they've taken it long distance a fair bit too so it remains to be seen. All car companies have their major issue - look at Mitsubishi with the 2014 Outlander PHEV battery degradation issues in court.
@@argent10k really, Canberra owner wishes to agreed with you but unfortunately they can’t. Their ATTO3 battery died when travelling at 100km/h. Warranty replacement refused until media intervention. If your BIL loves his family, ask him to drive the ATTO3 himself and put his family in a non-Chinese vehicle
@@yslee1401 yeah I’m aware of the story. It doesn’t change that it is an outlier in terms of statistics. The only real reason for the beat up is that it’s 1) an EV 2) a mainland Chinese company that is under investigation in US and EU. Also, he does drive the ATTO3 himself most of the time. Generally on long journeys they’ll be in convoy with myself in my Outlander PHEV or other other friends lol
I personally prefers BYDs DMI over toyota hybrid. Bcos it can literally drive as an EV quiet and smooth. Toyota hybrid doesn't allow you to drive as EV unless you go really gentle on the throttle and under 40k speed. And I don't think I ever need to fill up my fuel tank with the BYD DMI bcos I can just plug into my wall charger over night. If I am too lazy or forgot to charge it. The petrol engine will start charging the battery and still drive as an EV. Correct me if I am wrong BYD DMI doesn't have a gear box?
I don’t like its appearance - it looks like a Cayenne. But its battery technology is truly next generation, and it might feature the best PHEV technology available
The app store only has five apps in Australia, while it can install more than 100 apps in China! Come on BYD, we need more local apps, such as waze, youtube music, etc.
Not all reason, if you look into it deeper, this car has no transmission like normal ice car, and the 1.5L engine is much simpler, resulting in less cost to make.
@@jy-dj4wl What number? That random 4 digits behind my name? I was wondering about that myself. Maybe you can enlighten me on its significance because I don't remember putting it there
@@SuperCashion not only that, BYD owner in Canberra could not get the warranty claim on a failed battery. After being silent for 3 weeks, media intervention forced BYD to comply. Took BYD 3 more months to return the car to the owner
@@doug4383 as with any PRC vendor, having lots of hidden cost is an undeniable fact. Don’t think many people will use their car from cradle to grave. Wait till the time comes to sell
@@Mububban23 if MyCar does that, they are just digging their own graves as PRC cars are just not worth working on due to their poor built quality and rusting all over due to lack of or no rust proofing on the steel body
@@yslee1401 I agree. BYD design still suggest that they were a battery manufacturing company. However, I like their SEAL design. Copied Tesla but looks better than Tesla.
They sell these cars In china for 18,000€ Equiv and they're making a profit from it. I test drove one today base model FWD 38,000€ 62,000aud equiv there's absolutely no way I'm buying in at that price. False leather seats, weird pvc/rubber dash with imitation stitching, it just looked cheap. Small boot. I saw on the dealers computer when he walked awa that it was liated as a 2023 model. They have plenty of stock. I think BYD are flooding the market with older style stock, and that's the reason they all come fully loaded. They just ship over different colours, and it's not made to order. Smells fishy to me, but each to their own.
@leonchu4330 the BYDs net profit on each car sold under the seal U range in china is 1300€ the same range sold in Europe is 14,000€ the mark up is insane imo. Yes there are import taxes and tariffs to take in to account, but ultimately I feel it's artificially inflated too much.
Here’s why BYD is so cheap. BYD is more advanced than legacy dinosaurs. Simple as that mate. Just more advanced better research better tech. Not hard to understand. When someone can do something better at a lower price, it’s an extinction event for you hence the tariffs. See not hard is it Carsauce.
@@yslee1401 none of the legacy brands in China has any resale value either. Who is the future. Just need to open your eyes. All the brands you listed are considered trash brands and has zero market share in China. You can’t even give them away. Why do you think EU and US is panicking. They know the score. Btw Mitsubishi is dead. Nissan is half dead. All the German makers are tanking in China. GM same story. Toyota resale value in China is trash. You get the story.
@@yslee1401 you need to look at the windscreen instead of the rear view mirror. Australia is a backwater. All the car brands that are popular are dead in China or about to die. Mitsubishi has completely exited the Chinese market because their product is so crap yet the ppl here lap it up like it’s the best thing since sliced bread. Australia is a backwater. I repeat.
@@kirakira1981 no one really cares about what happens in China. Their economy has faltered and already in recession after the collapse of China Evergrande and Country Garden. Why should hard working Australians be buying inferno death traps that are deemed unroadworthy in PRC?
@@hipetwa the only other manufacturers that they can beat are GWM, Geely/Volvo/Polestar, LDV and Cherry. In other words, they can only cannibalise themselves
@@jasonjarvis7623 they are dumping unsold BEVs that have been registered by dealers to obtain New Energy Vehicle grants sitting in open car yards for more than a year
Not true at all, this is far superior to the RAV4 in every way except resale value, for now. Toyota can't even compete with their cutting edge, world class leading hybrid blade battery and ICE system that they will copy them for their future cars. It's that's good. Yes, it is new and people will be hesistant so it could take a long time before sales over take Toyota. Remember, when Toyota first came out, they were cheap Japanese junk that nobody wanted.
Ahh.. the poor man's Porsche Macan with a BMW butt. On the comment of suspension during driving being superior to the Outlander, this is extremely subjective as Car Expert showed the SL6 perform worse on their track (more boaty under undulation). I do appreciate the comment at the end about possible CCP shenanigans and the tariff investigations in the US and EU as well.
@@argent10k one will be a very poor person the minute he/she signs above the dotted line. Typical PRC vehicle depreciation is 75% within the first 12 months
This guy is paid by byd for marketing , he keeps saying it's better than an outlander as If this byd can compete with the outlander in refinement and warranty. The sea lion has 3 years warranty on suspension components like shock absorbers, even the tablet on the dashboard has 3 years warranty. Anyone that buys this will get a lemon with no resale value, in a few years. Don't ever trust car reviewers.
Why do they insist on making their cars so ugly? There’s always too much going on, looks so cheap. They are getting better but it just comes across like they are trying too hard.
@@borntruce 10 years? You are overly optimistic. After a year, its value would be no more than 25% of sticker price. After 2 years/40,000kms, they will be worth more at the junkyard
European built to last? Since when? My first car was a Renault, it was unreliable and expensive to keep in the road. However I do agree that Japanese cars are built to last.
@@borntruce those paid supporters of PRC products are running out of stamina these days. Little pink army are also running out of money and not paying those cybertroopers on time. See how long they last
@@vilester make sure you have a portable defibrillator and a few boxes of Kleenex when you sell. You will need both of them. Having a paramedic nearby will be better
@@2012mpe Looking at upfront price alone is very short sighted. The best industry yardstick is 5 year Total Cost of Ownership aka TCO. With non-existent resale value of PRC cars, zero multiply by any number is still zero
You saying this interior is better than the outlander? All they did was slap a giant touchscreen on the dash with fake leather. No ac controls or nothing . This is why you cant trust car reviewers, this is more of paid marketing and not a review. You gonna compare this to outlander which is known for good build quality and a rock solid warranty?
Germany started with imitating Britan, Japan started with imitating Germany, Korea started with imitating Japan, every major industrialized state started with imitating others. read more history boy.
@@hynoor7254 Spot on, even Issac Newton said he was standing on the shoulder of giants...while ignorant ppl still think innovations are coming out of nowhere...
I'm from the Philippines and bought a BYD Sealion 6 Dmi for Php 1,548,000 ($40,691 Australian Dollars). It is an awesome car wirh an insane price! We actually bought two ha ha ha 😊. An arctic white and azure blue. The dealer also gave us the 7Kw wall chargers for free, aside from the portable chargers ... fantastic!
Is this the DM-I v4 or v5?
@@rickylagos yeah, wait till you sell it. You will need a few boxes of Kleenex, a defibrillator and two paramedics within 30 seconds reach
@@yslee1401 😂😂😂
I saw an arctic white in one of the restaurant parking lots in Perth recently and it was stunningly beautiful. If not for the fact that I have already got an Atto 3 from BYD one and a half year ago, I would definitely go and get the BYD sea lion.
@@yslee1401I certainly hope for you that you were not writing out of your own terribly sad experience of selling your past used Non-BYD vehicles. Non-BYD? Because from your comment, you would never own one anyway!
I have had the sealion 6 premium for 4 weeks and traveled 1726 km. I have used 336 kWh and 10 litres. I have an 8c tariff with ovo so $27 in electricity and $23 in petrol. So $50 for 1726 km. For comparison a RAV4 would go 417 km for $50 assuming $2 per litre and 6l/100km
Definitely a better purchase than the expensive outdated RAV 4 hybrids. However, your real competition is the Haval H6 Ultra Hybrid as it has the exact same range for $10k less. Yes, 1700km in that car would cost $160 in fuel, not $50. However, the $10,000 saving left in the mortgage offset account would take 13 years before our cars broke even at 10,000km/year. You never have to charge a conventional hybrid, in that time you would have had to charge it at least 141 times/year. PHEVs & EVs simply aren't financially worth it, it's purely for the fun of driving in EV mode. Good on you for being able to enjoy that EV experience for much longer.
plus Rav 4 interior is a disaster.
@@obyrnej8z Congratulations on your new Temu Tesla. One day, it will Bleed Your Dry before Burning Your Driveway and Bending Your Dignity
@@niyeyewo5034 Its way better than this Temu Tesla
@@yslee1401 Blind people should leave comment here.
Come on BYD, bring a PHEV 7 seater MPV to Australia.
@@yslee1401 😂😂😂 you again!?
@@Elarci09 this post won’t earn you 50 cents RMB
@@yslee1401 Wow, thats way better than Ford in were I live.
@@yulusleonard985 but Fords can be traded in. PRC vehicles can’t
@@yslee1401 In were I live nobody want Ford. People buy Chinese more than European while American already runaway.
Love BYD. Korean and Japanese brand took 10 years to have good interior but at 30% more then BYD seal. Chinese car makers are a serious threat to main stream brands which are partially responsible for inflation due to their price gouging.
@@Emptyheads. but they don’t have any resale value at all
@@yslee1401 I doubt you know what shape resell value.
@@yulusleonard985 I may not but used car dealers sure do. They just outright reject any PRC cars as no one wants a used PRC vehicle
@@yslee1401 They will when spare parts logistic is running and their mechanic know how to fix them. Resell value are driven by uncertainty as Japanese and Korean deal with them as well in the past.
@@yulusleonard985 BYD ATTO3 battery failure case in Canberra exemplifies BYDs attitude towards honouring warranty claims. Poor owner had to wait 3 weeks and media intervention before BYD agreed to replace the failed battery. The replacement battery only came 3 months later. So much for after sales support. They can’t match the Gold standard of Japanese cars
For someone who does primarily local driving and only occasional trips over 80kms I often wonder what impact the lack of use of the petrol engine has on its long term performance if, say, it winds up being idle for weeks at a time.
We only do road trips about 3 times per year on average but for those road trips an EV can be a little restrictive especially when looking for charging options off the main highway routes so a PHEV seems ideal but we may not need the petrol engine much in between those road trips hence my question above.
When I was looking into the Outlander PHEV, I found out that the system will activate the ICE unit as required to keep things moving. It would have a negligible effect on fuel use overall.
@@yslee1401crap. No basis for lying.
@@jasonjarvis7623 CNY0.50 complements of little pink
@@jasonjarvis7623 this guy is in every byd video and bashing them, he needs a job
You're basically wasting money on this. A Haval H6 hybrid Ultra has the exact same range for $10k less and you never have to plug it in (bigger boot & more features). Either go conventional hybrid or go full EV. A plug in hybrid doesn't make any sense as you'll be lugging around an extra 500kg if you don't plug it in everyday. If you do plug it in everyday, why do you need that petrol tank and ICE drive train to maintain and lug around? Just go full EV with the Sealion 7 due to come out around Christmas and only charge it once a fortnight instead of every second day.
It should be mandatory that all new cars must come with a full size spare wheel.
The question with Chinese car is, how long can they support the car parts especially after warranty
Our next car! Can't wait!
Same, I get my premium in Oct - can't wait!
@@peterbouzaid9366 yeah. Can’t wait to see the look on your face when you sell. Get ready a defibrillator and a few boxes of Kleenex
@@CROCS_PH buy it 12 month later for less than 25% of the current new price
Hi Tom. Loved the Premium car but found that the steering was way too light, and I found it vague. Did you find that and if so, how long did it take you to get used to it
For those that don’t know, there’s a very good chance these will be Toyotas new hybrid motors as well and will be used in the next generation Corolla and rav 4s. This is technically, well mechanically speaking, what the new rav 4 will bring to the table. The Corolla will use a 1.5 turbo hybrid motor set-up with bigger battery. This will result in more time in “electric mode” so to speak.
@@OlyMar83 dream on. It’s BYD that stole Toyota Hybrid and PHEV technology
@@yslee1401stop being political mate
It’s a rumour. Not official.
@@yslee1401 are you butt hurt by BYD for some reason?
@@iBlogGadget publications from Japanese motor magazines have stipulated 1.5 turbo hybrids motors to be used in the next generation Corolla. Watch Kirk kreifels channel. Pretty much the motor in this sealion 6.
How does the Y have better packaging?
Where does the byd plug in hybrid fall into the “plug in hybrid are more likely to catch fire” stats ?
What about this one compared to the new MG HS PLUG-IN HYBRID?
You can actually take the battery down to 10% just hold the EV button.
@@Nightster7777 be careful on what you are doing. BYD accused Canberra owner of ATTO3 not charging their vehicle to 80% thereby inadvertently causing the battery to fail while going at 100km/h. Stop giving them excuses for not honouring battery warranty
@@yslee1401 what do you mean - that they were undercharging or overcharging? - ATTO3 has LFP, manual says to charge to 100% at least once a week
@@zzz-pe3mp both. BYD Canberra must be whispering Dixie from their behind. The software must be smart enough to guide the owner. Maybe it’s because they are using Huawei’s Symphony OS which is sub-standard by any standard
@@yslee1401your basing your prejudice on one vehicle. Google Toyota issues and you be up all night reading.
@@jasonjarvis7623 Sure, Toyota has been making cars since the 1930s. There would be plenty of articles on that. ATTO3 couple in Canberra thought that they bought an electric dream car but ended up with a life threatening nighmare that lasted more than 9 months
All the BYD electric buses are doing a lot better than the Scania Hybrid .. Most of the EV Buses in Australia is from BYD ..
No one does a ride test for rear passengers, maybe it’s something you can look at. I found This BYD SUV fine in the front but a bit “bumpy” in the back
well no reviewers done the rear ride on any SUV so anyone can be bit 'bumpy' as well
That's a really good suggestion - for all reviews. I'm also a fan of the original "Moose Test", where the car is fully loaded and then has to do a swerve and recover manoeuvre (resembling the effort you'd take to avoid a random moose on a highway). It's quite surprising to see how many cars have very poor handling when loaded.
@@yslee1401 No that is bullshit. You are on every video about any Chinese car just spewing poison so obviously you have an agenda which is not compatible with delivering thoughfull dependable viewpoint.
Have done 3700km sat in the back, not bumpy at all in the back. Much better ride than my old Forester. And way smoother than over bumps than my Skoda Octavia (bit too firm)
@@Sam-wx4qx a Temu Tesla can’t go very far before breaking apart
2 seconds in and I'm triggered! This is not China's Rav4 It's BYD. You people need to give BYD credit where it is due. Hence why Toyota are now going to use BYD PHEV Systems. You're better than this Tom!
@@Aussie_Stu76 fully agreed. 12 months later when it would have depreciated by more than 75%, it would certainly be value for money
@@yslee1401no idea
@@yslee1401 I don't understand why you are so aggressive and malicious, as if BYD's products are complete waste and you are gloating.
@@galahadray another 1 year old little pink account earning your CNY0.50
@@yslee1401 cope harder cia bot, your reply sounds like moan to me, son.
Great video as always Tom. It would be awesome if you did a comparison of this to the outlander phev to try and derive where that extra value sits (if anywhere...).
Bit of a head scratcher for me is that they saw fit to put an opening panoramic sunroof with a powered shade but didn’t include lumbar support? I was impressed with the AWD Sealion until I got to highway speeds. There was a dull, low frequency thudding in the cabin at 100km/h. It may have been the tires fitted, and I have the dealer investigating. But it would prevent me buying one of these at the moment.
Sounds like standard Chinese refinement. Low speeds they are often just ok but at higher speeds on rougher surfaces you get weird noises and a lot of bobbing with suspension etc.
@@_chipchip you’ll be very lucky if water does not drip into the cabin when it rains.
@@yslee1401it doesn't. My Prado did though.
@@jasonjarvis7623 you did not clean the drain holes as routine maintenance. Read the freaking manual (RTFM). BYD sunroof leaks because it goes out of alignment quickly due to the poor quality of design and manufacturing
@@jasonjarvis7623 wait a minute. You only have PRC motorbikes without a driver license
I wonder if there are owners that can express there dealer experience with warranty claims
Review overseas sites, this car has been out for a few years now. It is actually the facelift version.
Exactly what type of car I'm looking for. Nice.
If you don't charge a lot and mostly use the engine then why would you buy a full EV?
the cheapest BYD PHEV sells for $15,000 in China and this car sells for $25000 in China so no it's not too cheap in Australia. they are actually making good money. This is what happens when you own the whole supply chain from battery to components to smelter to LCD screens.
The additional price increase might not be due to BYD but costs from sea freight, import tax and dealer mark-up. The Australian distributor is a local franchise and not part of BYD company.
@@yslee1401How do you know that? Is it from rumours or your own experience? A used car can be chosen to be sold in low price for willing buyer and even that it still has value, albeit low, isn't it? So, what do you mean by no resale value?
@@leonchu4330 for people that bought PRC vehicles a couple of years ago and have personally witnessed GWM Utes with around 50,000kms/2 years that got passed on at public auctions for an asking price of AUD2k
@@leonchu4330 why would I want to own one of these inferno traps? Rented one before, horrible ride especially the rear. The rental company personnel told me that they will switch back to Toyota and Hyundai when those BYDs reach 2 years old as they are really expensive to maintain
@@leonchu4330he’s a troll poster who comments negative comments on every single BYD video to try trash it. Have a look at chasing cars’ other videos. Her needs a better hobby
Does this have a HUD? The missus has a CX-5 Maxx Sport, it cost $41k ans has that and it drives great. Fuel usage is pretty high though
The higher spec AWD does
@@NickHey Mazda is in a category of vehicles that BYD will not be able to achieve in the next 30 years. Not an apple to Apple comparison
@@yslee1401😂 Lol
@@yslee1401ha ha, silly comment, if you anti chinese, just buy mazda....
@@yslee1401BYD is better than the crap Mazda PHEV
I could have bought this only if service centers were near me but alas only totoya is near me.
@@ziyue9725 isn’t that a blessing in disguise?
How is the Model y packaging Better
He's pained to describe the good aspects of another wise excellent car.....that's so typical of almost all Australian car reviewers....imagine the oozing praises had this been a German auto
Is this car coming to South Africa?
Hi, another excellent review. Just wondering what’s the 0-100 speed like
4-5k more for the premium with turbo and 4 wheel drive. Meant to be quick in a straight line.
i test drived the awd version, on paper it gets 0-100 in 6 sec. At medium balanced power mode i can get pass 50 in way less than 3 sec from red light, scares me due to amount of speed cameras in nsw. the sales guy claims in two months time three speeding tickets got issued to those test drove this car. so for a two ton suv, awd version is powerful for the price.
I interested when the BYD Qin L will be released in Australia?
its a very very efficient sedan
Another No Resale Value vehicle
Is this car can go fast in the highway even it has low horsepower?
Thanks for the review Tom. It's understandable that this car accounted for half of BYD's sales in August. However, *a significant limitation of the BYD Sealion 6 is the payload: only 410kg!* Once you put 5 people on board, or even just 4 adults, you have little capacity to carry any luggage. By contrast, the Outlander PHEV has a payload of 600-630 kg. Even the CX5 has a payload of 480kg (which is still fairly limited).
Motivation to lose a few kilos. BYD think of everything. 😉
@@nathansmith6914 Nice one.. LOL... my friends are just big-boned!
@@nathansmith6914 not quite true. They didn’t think of the resale value of their vehicles
@@yslee1401 Don't just make a broad statement without showing us the statistics. The resale of the Atto 3 (being their first vehicle released in the Australian market) is holding up quite well but happy to be corrected.
@@bobbyrodil6371 oh really? ATTO3 owner in Canberra disagrees. Their rusty PRC crapped on them while going at 100 km/h. BYD refused battery replacement warranty for 3 weeks until media intervened. They waited 3 months before battery arrived and another 2 weeks for replacement
Great video as usual.
I realized there are close to 2K views but not many ppl hit the like button.... Come on ppl!
That is because there are hundreds of little pink earning their 50 chinese cents
Great to see you finally mention proce gouging. You could a top of the line RAV4 Hybrid for under 50k just a few years ago. This car is a return to common sense pricing. Hopefully the established players learn the lesson.
They don't need to, as people line up to pay what ever they charge...they have more customers than cars to sell
@@candlelarbra5212 RAV4 HEV and NX350H happens to have the highest resale value amongst high volume vehicles globally. Nothing BYD can do to catch up as no one trusts PRC brands
@@yslee1401 Well Toyota themselves are using BYD power trains in the future so shows what you know.
@@candlelarbra5212 only for China domestic models which are low volume vehicle that does not sell well. High volume sellers outside PRC with ultra high resale value does not have any Chinese DNA at all
@@yslee1401 still good enough for Toyota
Akuna Bay?
Great honest opinions
Hasn’t this been out for a while and is being replaced by a new model soon?
Is 8 to 10 weeks a while?
BYD selling cars that have been registered in China a year or more, keeping them in car yards to get CCP New Energy Vehicle subsidy, converting them to Right Hand Drive for markets like UK/NZ/AU/MY/SG/TH is a normal practice
@@yslee1401 Is this factual information, or just something you pulled out of your arse?
@@raymondmumford6255 Remorse after buying one of these junks are normal. I fully understand
Just not sure I'd trust that company BYD to look after me with warranty claims, otherwise I'd consider it.
@@rosswithers9085 they won’t, as Canberra couple Mr & Mrs Cool found out the hard way
The screen is too big. This is an Ipad with a car attachment.
Song plus
Ancap rating?
None yet, but it's passed tests overseas.
@@798Jinx yeah right. Definitely not US/Canada and Europe
@@yslee1401really. I read 5 stars in Europe NCAP test.
@@798Jinx NCAP has not even certified Sealion 6
Now has 5 star ANCAP rating.
BYD is making all parts in that car in house except tires I assume, that's why it is so cheap.
Well the factory tyres are really poor quality especially if you get the more powerful version - expect a ~$1500-$2000 replacement cost if you prefer better tyres for family safety.
@@argent10k if you love your family, you wouldn’t be putting them in a BYD.
@@yslee1401 *shrug* To each their own. My BiL has an ATTO3 and since it was first released in Aust and it's not missed a beat for them and they've taken it long distance a fair bit too so it remains to be seen. All car companies have their major issue - look at Mitsubishi with the 2014 Outlander PHEV battery degradation issues in court.
@@argent10k really, Canberra owner wishes to agreed with you but unfortunately they can’t. Their ATTO3 battery died when travelling at 100km/h. Warranty replacement refused until media intervention. If your BIL loves his family, ask him to drive the ATTO3 himself and put his family in a non-Chinese vehicle
@@yslee1401 yeah I’m aware of the story. It doesn’t change that it is an outlier in terms of statistics. The only real reason for the beat up is that it’s 1) an EV 2) a mainland Chinese company that is under investigation in US and EU. Also, he does drive the ATTO3 himself most of the time. Generally on long journeys they’ll be in convoy with myself in my Outlander PHEV or other other friends lol
This SUV really needs traditional front seats with lumbar and head rest tilt. I don't think I could drive an SUV with how deep those seats go
I personally prefers BYDs DMI over toyota hybrid. Bcos it can literally drive as an EV quiet and smooth. Toyota hybrid doesn't allow you to drive as EV unless you go really gentle on the throttle and under 40k speed. And I don't think I ever need to fill up my fuel tank with the BYD DMI bcos I can just plug into my wall charger over night. If I am too lazy or forgot to charge it. The petrol engine will start charging the battery and still drive as an EV. Correct me if I am wrong BYD DMI doesn't have a gear box?
I don’t like its appearance - it looks like a Cayenne. But its battery technology is truly next generation, and it might feature the best PHEV technology available
@@eugenej4511 nowhere near Toyota/Lexus PHEV
@@yslee1401hahaha. Toyota are going to start using the BYD technology.
Yes, please bring it to Aus.
The app store only has five apps in Australia, while it can install more than 100 apps in China!
Come on BYD, we need more local apps, such as waze, youtube music, etc.
@@senwang1982 they must be running on Symphony OS that is not supported under Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Huawei is banned for a good reason
Wireless AndroidAuto woks like a dream - try that if Spotify does not work for you.
Masuk indo auto laku🎉
The reason for being cheap is because mass production and low local inflation
Not all reason, if you look into it deeper, this car has no transmission like normal ice car, and the 1.5L engine is much simpler, resulting in less cost to make.
@@niyeyewo5034 this is a Temu Toyota. All technology was copied, thin and cheap metal used with poor welding and no rust proofing
Their naming needs to be improved 😢
Why? You don't like sea animals?
@@shaundudley4576 what a cute reply, I Like, but the number behind is too random
@@jy-dj4wl What number? That random 4 digits behind my name? I was wondering about that myself. Maybe you can enlighten me on its significance because I don't remember putting it there
O i just realised you must be talking about the car. Didn't take any notice of it
@@shaundudley4576 why 06, not 007 or something else. Kinda random.
You failed to discuss their poor suspension warranty which show the true quality of the components
@@SuperCashion not only that, BYD owner in Canberra could not get the warranty claim on a failed battery. After being silent for 3 weeks, media intervention forced BYD to comply. Took BYD 3 more months to return the car to the owner
@@yslee1401sounds pretty typical of anything that links back to the CCP
@@yslee1401it was a 12v battery failure, most manufacturers have a 12 month battery warranty.
@@glennO-e9r for the case of Mr & Mrs Cool travelling along Tagaranong Highway, it was the BYD blade battery that completely failed
Should one buy this car? Reply with thumbs up or down please
52000 drive away my arse just bought one closer to 60000 after all the taxes etc
@@doug4383 as with any PRC vendor, having lots of hidden cost is an undeniable fact. Don’t think many people will use their car from cradle to grave. Wait till the time comes to sell
Did you buy the top spec?
@@SmithLord117 the higher the spec, the lower the resale value
@@yslee1401 that wasn't what I was asking about at all. I was wondering how 48k became "almost 60k" driveway.
$52000 was the price I paid.
pity about the lack of service centres
It's one of the main downsides of newer brands sadly.
@@chasingcars Aren't BYD being serviced by the MyCar network (previously KMart Tyre & Auto)?
@@Mububban23 if MyCar does that, they are just digging their own graves as PRC cars are just not worth working on due to their poor built quality and rusting all over due to lack of or no rust proofing on the steel body
Don't like the external design AT ALL
@@amon5124 any copied design that does not have originality and purpose will fail miserably
@@yslee1401 I agree. BYD design still suggest that they were a battery manufacturing company. However, I like their SEAL design. Copied Tesla but looks better than Tesla.
@@amon5124 the operative word is “copied”. Any phone maker that tried to copy Apple has failed miserably
👍👍👌👏👏❤️❤️
They sell these cars In china for 18,000€ Equiv and they're making a profit from it. I test drove one today base model FWD 38,000€ 62,000aud equiv there's absolutely no way I'm buying in at that price. False leather seats, weird pvc/rubber dash with imitation stitching, it just looked cheap. Small boot.
I saw on the dealers computer when he walked awa that it was liated as a 2023 model. They have plenty of stock. I think BYD are flooding the market with older style stock, and that's the reason they all come fully loaded. They just ship over different colours, and it's not made to order. Smells fishy to me, but each to their own.
The Australian BYD importer is a franchise from BYD and is not part of the BYD company. Personally, I think the franchisee mark up is a bit high.
@leonchu4330 the BYDs net profit on each car sold under the seal U range in china is 1300€ the same range sold in Europe is 14,000€ the mark up is insane imo. Yes there are import taxes and tariffs to take in to account, but ultimately I feel it's artificially inflated too much.
Titling this a rav 4 challenger is like comparing a space station to a bicycle, oh wait China did that one too…
Here’s why BYD is so cheap. BYD is more advanced than legacy dinosaurs. Simple as that mate. Just more advanced better research better tech. Not hard to understand.
When someone can do something better at a lower price, it’s an extinction event for you hence the tariffs. See not hard is it Carsauce.
@@kirakira1981 but they don’t have any resale value at all. Worse than the likes of Peugeot, Fiat or Citroen
@@yslee1401 none of the legacy brands in China has any resale value either. Who is the future. Just need to open your eyes. All the brands you listed are considered trash brands and has zero market share in China. You can’t even give them away. Why do you think EU and US is panicking. They know the score.
Btw Mitsubishi is dead. Nissan is half dead. All the German makers are tanking in China. GM same story. Toyota resale value in China is trash. You get the story.
@@yslee1401 you need to look at the windscreen instead of the rear view mirror. Australia is a backwater. All the car brands that are popular are dead in China or about to die. Mitsubishi has completely exited the Chinese market because their product is so crap yet the ppl here lap it up like it’s the best thing since sliced bread. Australia is a backwater. I repeat.
@@kirakira1981 no one really cares about what happens in China. Their economy has faltered and already in recession after the collapse of China Evergrande and Country Garden. Why should hard working Australians be buying inferno death traps that are deemed unroadworthy in PRC?
@@yslee1401 yawn, just came back from china recently and what you said is completely the opposite. Keep trying with your cheap propaganda!
Won't beat the toyota RAV 4😂😂 it must first beat the toyota corolla cross hybrid in sales
@@hipetwa the only other manufacturers that they can beat are GWM, Geely/Volvo/Polestar, LDV and Cherry. In other words, they can only cannibalise themselves
@@yslee1401they are world dominating
@@jasonjarvis7623 they are dumping unsold BEVs that have been registered by dealers to obtain New Energy Vehicle grants sitting in open car yards for more than a year
@@jasonjarvis7623 they are dominating the low resale value aspect of BEVs, PHEVs, HEVs and ICE cars
Not true at all, this is far superior to the RAV4 in every way except resale value, for now. Toyota can't even compete with their cutting edge, world class leading hybrid blade battery and ICE system that they will copy them for their future cars. It's that's good. Yes, it is new and people will be hesistant so it could take a long time before sales over take Toyota. Remember, when Toyota first came out, they were cheap Japanese junk that nobody wanted.
no brainer
Ahh.. the poor man's Porsche Macan with a BMW butt. On the comment of suspension during driving being superior to the Outlander, this is extremely subjective as Car Expert showed the SL6 perform worse on their track (more boaty under undulation). I do appreciate the comment at the end about possible CCP shenanigans and the tariff investigations in the US and EU as well.
@@argent10k one will be a very poor person the minute he/she signs above the dotted line. Typical PRC vehicle depreciation is 75% within the first 12 months
This guy is paid by byd for marketing , he keeps saying it's better than an outlander as If this byd can compete with the outlander in refinement and warranty.
The sea lion has 3 years warranty on suspension components like shock absorbers, even the tablet on the dashboard has 3 years warranty.
Anyone that buys this will get a lemon with no resale value, in a few years. Don't ever trust car reviewers.
BYD needs to update their instrument clusters, they all look washed out to me.
@@pjb5594 the whole vehicle looks washed out and out of proportion
@@yslee1401best looking car next to any Toyota.
@@jasonjarvis7623 but no resale value at all
Actually very bright, are you sure someone did not dial down the brightness?
@@jasonjarvis7623 Love the look on your face after BYD Bleeds You Dry and Bends Your Dignity
Why do they insist on making their cars so ugly? There’s always too much going on, looks so cheap. They are getting better but it just comes across like they are trying too hard.
THIS car is obsolete in China. They are dumping it on you.
What brand is taking over? Do you know?
What's it been replaced with?
370k sold last year in china alone for byd .@@yslee1401
Hybrid boooo!
I think all these Chinese made cars will run 10 years max and break down forever. Japanese and European are built to last.
@@borntruce 10 years? You are overly optimistic. After a year, its value would be no more than 25% of sticker price. After 2 years/40,000kms, they will be worth more at the junkyard
lol my Mercedes has flaking paint after 8 years. Toyota cars still looks like they are stuck in the 90’s.
European built to last? Since when? My first car was a Renault, it was unreliable and expensive to keep in the road.
However I do agree that Japanese cars are built to last.
@@borntruce those paid supporters of PRC products are running out of stamina these days. Little pink army are also running out of money and not paying those cybertroopers on time. See how long they last
@@vilester make sure you have a portable defibrillator and a few boxes of Kleenex when you sell. You will need both of them. Having a paramedic nearby will be better
BYD overtaking the existing PHEV and normal hybrid market , i think in europe PHEV is better than EVS.
@@2012mpe BEVs in China are not selling at all. They are repackaged and sold overseas at a discount
@@yslee1401 I checked the sales of BYD , they sold more than 140,000 evs last month in china
@@2012mpe correction. 140,000 were registered by dealers to get CCP subsidies
Where are you from ? If you live in Europe show me a PHEV suv better than BYD seal u DM-i with similar price I'll buy it
@@2012mpe Looking at upfront price alone is very short sighted. The best industry yardstick is 5 year Total Cost of Ownership aka TCO. With non-existent resale value of PRC cars, zero multiply by any number is still zero
You saying this interior is better than the outlander? All they did was slap a giant touchscreen on the dash with fake leather. No ac controls or nothing .
This is why you cant trust car reviewers, this is more of paid marketing and not a review. You gonna compare this to outlander which is known for good build quality and a rock solid warranty?
China, imitation country
Your country? Anything worth mentioning?
@@lucassitanggang5154 PRC is a country where cheating is part and parcel of their culture
Germany started with imitating Britan, Japan started with imitating Germany, Korea started with imitating Japan, every major industrialized state started with imitating others. read more history boy.
@@j.d2765 They make a good Rendang.
@@hynoor7254 Spot on, even Issac Newton said he was standing on the shoulder of giants...while ignorant ppl still think innovations are coming out of nowhere...
An excellent car that deserves to sell well.
@@elthamtreehugger5320 yeah. A year later when it’s only worth 25% of its retail price, it’s a real bargain indeed
@@elthamtreehugger5320 used car dealers don’t even accept PRC cars
This has double pane windows! … something you find in cars like Lexus
@@Tie626 but they ain’t got no resale value