The Stradavarius of a few seasons back would probably have overhauled the first two. The Stradavarius of this and the last two seasons doesn't have the legs. Dettori rode a poor race.
What was Dettori thinking on the turn home? Kyprios and Mojo Star were running on and Dettori should've trailed them into the race and when they veered toward the fence he would have been left with a clear path to the post without needing to change direction. He gave up a lot of ground and momentum pulling out so wide on Stradivarius.
Wouldn't admit he made a mistake and basically blamed defeat on Strad not being the horse he was. He may not be, but he would still have won if given a better ride.
Correct, he would have won if he kept that true line and popped out once through the traffic. I was on Crispy Cat in the 1st and exactly the same happened, could get a run, cut inside and then got blocked by the donkey that won the race. Would have won going away. Had £100 E/w on it, pff
Agreed. I couldn't see anything wrong with keeping the rail all the way home. He probably watched too many replays of last year of how he got held up before the turn in. I mean I look at Burning Victory's run and Strad would've crushed them had he been anywhere near that rail with the ground so firm there was no way Kyprios would be able to handle him. It's getting pretty easy to blame Frankie these days and I can't see a way to excuse him in this 1 today
The Horse has to be held up that’s why it comes from behind that’s why it got blocked in that’s why it went wide have a look at the race properly there’s a good lad
Yes that was a stinker, admittedly Moore has intentionally kept him in but to be the best you have to be tactically astute and not to let your opponents dictate what you do. He’s run a cracker but being in the wrong position has given him a mountain he couldn’t possibly climb.
100%...brutal ride! Then beat later on a 2/5...don't wanna say he's done but it's the beginning of the end of him! Got Lord North beat aswell yesterday...couldn't get the head gear off! Had a shocker.
What a ride from moore, Frankie drawn 2 was always going to be inside, hitting that final bend, moore wouldn’t let him out, I think frankie got a lot of shit for the ride but you have to praise moore for genius tactical riding
Thats your mate Frankie he should work in a slaughter house, when he comes to Aust we just put a line thru whoever he rides. Plus theres more than 8 runners in our Melb Cup. He's a has been.
@@JPwhoknows Ryan was getting very serious with kyprios a long way out while strad was still travelling on the bridle, goodwood all about speed I think Strad will defo get revenge
@@johnnyboy6608 me too, I hope anyway. With a better ride as well as Dettori allowed Strad to get boxed in I think with a better tactic it’ll come out on top of Kyprios as you said that it come off the bridle a long way from home.
I had no money on the race but that is 2 years running g Frankie has got trapped on the inside. Last year I don't think Stradivarius woulda won either way but this year I think Stradivarius would have won with a better ride. 🤷♂️
@@ryanhodson993 need a lesson in english.before u comment.hes 8yr old the horse..then who knows if hed won with buick on board......english english doh!!!!
@@darrensmith4279 sorry misread your comment mate but age was not really an aspect that lost the race it was the decision of the jockey buick was on a far worse horse and got 4. watch burning victory on the rail if that was strad on the rail hed be a 4x gold cup winner
Stradivarius should have won that race , Dettori let the horse get boxed in with too much to do but fair play to the winner who ran a great race and Ryan Moore who gave the horse every chance 👍
J'adore Stradivarius. C'est un véritable crack et ce n'est pas sa défaite du jour que mon opinion va changer. Il est temps maintenant pour lui qu'il rejoigne le haras. J'attends déjà de voir ses futurs bébés.
Well said 👏 Emily cost me a lot of money 💰 🙄 you have to be in the first 6 going round tatnem corner or you can't win. quote from the great Lester piggott.
It really hurt to see a legendary horse be let down not one gold cup but 2 frankie really f up. Look at burning victory on near rail if strad is there we would be looking at a 2-3 length win
Frankie could have given Strad the dream run up the inside and you’d think he would of almost certainly won. Made the wrong choice on the day, unfortunate.
The extra ground covered by Strad cost him a certain race, comments by Frankie in the paddock after the race that he lost to horses with fresh legs are not justified. No one else but himself to blame. Sadly the best horse lost.
Exactly ruined the chance for it to have another notch added to it's amazing legacy. I'm just glad he didn't mess it up even worse than what he did had it in a winning placepot.
I like frankie...his smile,openess,willingness to engage with reporters etc....but what this week at ascot has proven,is that frankie is not what he was Twenty years ago,frankie would have grabbed this race by the neck and wrapped it up. 10 years ago,he would have been aware of what was going on and who was what. It will happen to all of us...we hold on,thinking we are what we once was,but mother time is unbeaten through billions of years. Let it go frankie,let it go.
You are dreaming if you think Frankie didn't make massive clangers back in the day. He is wonderful jock but just have a look at swain in the breeders cup and you will see this sort of thing has always been in his locker.
@@richfairclough123 I know very well about swain... But look at all the great legendary ones,they have the same...or worse! Lester piggott got nijinsky beat in the arc with a disgraceful,egotistical ride. For all her great wins,the ride mike Smith gave zenyatta in her final race was inexcusable. It's an ego,overconfidence and very human thing. Bad thing for frankie is that he has had a nightmare week at Royal ascot this week and it follows on from his recent nightmare at Epsom.
@@richfairclough123 He should retire. Of course he will win more top,top races,but the oaks and gold Cup rides,because they were so close together,will remain a pain.
Not really, Stradivarius gave away more ground than he lost by, in a stop start race for him, not just at the end of the race, but when he was made to drop back through the field when going well, think Frankie thought he was riding Enable in her prime, he dug an hole for Stradivarius that was near impossible for him to Stradivarius to get out of,
Great to see European racing where it's not a 3 horse Field and someone just can sit behind a pacemaker and just win paying $1.20.. that looked competitive
I had Zoe and she got mugged and lost all chance. The racing at Royal Ascot has been shocking this week, aside from that incredible Aussie winner of the King Stand.
Oh dear Frankie. Could see he was going to muck that up from over a circuit out - that takes some doing. Gosden deserves everything he is getting in not choosing to get a competent jockey when everybody can see Dettori is done.
Stradivarius should have been running 2nd or 3rd given his draw and the tempo of that race. If he was he would have won that by 4-5 lengths And that’s allowing for the fact he’s 3-4 lengths slower than he was 3 years ago
Considering not his ground and the ride he was given the horse was incredible. So much ground wasted. Stradavarius did all he could to win and jockey did all he could to mess it up.
I have a lot of time for Dettori but some of his riding lately is hard to understand. This was another horrible tactical misjudgement. Stradivarius is a thorough stayer so why have the horse near the back in a slowly run race which ended with a two furlong dash. He was in totally the wrong place coming into the straight and if you court disaster you often get it.
Likewise, I have lot of time for Dettori, but I think he overthought his tactics and got it wrong. Some experts say that if he waited for the gap he still would not have won. I think if he waited for the gap he would have won with the turn of foot Stradivarius showed. My money was on Moore and Kyprios, but I would not have been sorry to see Stradivarius equal Yeats with four Gold Cups.
Mojo Star fastest horse in the race however he got outstayed and ended up a slow finisher. Kyprios really fast also and more steady, Stardivarius was competing but Kyprios always had him imo. Good winner, impressive times by most though, good Ascot Gold Cup.
It's always easy to be wise after the event, but I honestly can't understand why Dettori didn't have Stradivarius a little near the front were a gap was a little more likely to have opened up instead of keeping the horse in mid division? I believe Gosden is asking similar question, I will be surprised if the Dettori and Gosden survives to the end of the season.
@@wilf7042 He was "unlucky" because he was didn't ride the horse closer to the pace, even Gosden Stradivarius trainer has voiced similar, he could have still got plenty of cover moving the horse closer to the pace instead of holding him back so he could try to counter the favourite Kyprios which he was obviously intending to do.
@@suemaher5282 True, all he had to do is what Buick did on Coroebus, instead he's keeping Stradivarius back and has ended up having to give away valuable ground coming around the field in the end.
@@nightowl7459 Buick is a proper jockey who has his mind on the race. Frankie has his mind on Frankie. Looks like his getting a whip ban today I hated the way he whipped Stradavarius. People say he is one of the greatest jockeys I don't see that. He's gd at promoting racing by clowning about and he's lucky Gosden chose him but twice this week Gosden has looked pretty angry at his rides.
Was really rooting for Strad, but Frankie hasn't been having a good day today at all, including this race. Bummer! Strad was really coming on with more energy than any of them!
@@G4RY1159 well if you know your racing you'll know he ran too free in the French guineas from a terrible draw so you could put a line through that run
Never had such a a massive crushing disappointment than today having Mojo Star at 18/1 That said what a throughly enjoyable race and with a good winner getting back up who outstayed his rival.
Only criticism form wise, you’d rather they’d beat Burning Victory more easier than they did, she’s a very good mare but you would rather see a bit more distance, Trueshan can still beat these if the ground comes in his favour imo.
Dettori the most overrated jockey I've known in 50 years of watching racing. I admire his passion and will to win but he's a bang average jockey, don't tell me about the many winners he's had and the Ascot 8 race win, he's in the best yard. He's bang average and regularly outs in poor performances. I'm no hater, it's not personal, he's just average.
That's what happens when you over think. Dettori wins had he stayed on the rail , to worried about princess zoe and decided to hunt a space when it would if opened up and he wins by two lenths. After he watched the race again he relised.
Stradavarius deserved better today than Frankie whipping him so many times when he got straight and then blaming the horse for his bad ride. Retire him or change the jockey.
what have frankie and rab got in common? they were both chucked out for 6 Months? or was it a year?? chuck them out again i say, all of this makes the appreciation and admiration for Lester Piggott even more poignant and indeed accurate to describe as THE greatest Jockey of all time , He would never in a BILLION years make the same errors dettori has made , he even won the Breeders Cup at almost 55yo ....incredible, the italian is a liability, frankie ,,,, you were never fit to clean Lester's Boots nevermind take the p ss out of him by calling him Grand Dad , who's the Grand Dad now???
@@Tony-ey5zl enjoyable article for the owner’s views…quite long. 'He's Absolutely Going To Cover Flat Mares Only': Bjorn Nielsen on Stradivarius's Future Stud Career
I backed Stradivarius and Mojo Star with a saver on Kyprios. Ah! tbh I think had Frankie been able to get out when he wanted - Stradivarius going better than both Kyprios and Mojo at the time. The fourth came from the back and found an easy way through up the inner. Had Frankie done the same would've won. That said, had he done so rival jockeys would be more likely be looking for fancied horses and closed the door. As it was first Ryan and then Rossa Ryan brilliant jockeyship in keeping Frankie in. That's racing.
@@robertdelacy3434 Yes, it was antepost. Last week - with this heatwave forecast - Kyprios and Stradivarius's supposed main rivals Trueshan and Scope were never going to take part on good-firm. So backed Stradivarius with a Kyprios saver. Wanted to also back Mojo Star but as this was his reappearance best to be sure he'd run., so waited. Unfortunately though, this morning with Kyprios extremely short and that stat of three disappointing English runs stat - I laid some of it back. Oops.
@@johnristheanswer Thanks, I think LOL. If believing any horse overpriced (in percentage terms) I back it however many I may have already backed in the race. Backing the horse / horses I believe are the best value as main bet/s and the lesser value as savers. Sometimes make my own 100% book but here seemed to me (without Trueshan and Scope) Kyprios had more than a third chance, Stradivarius roughly the same, with The Field (together) less than a third. Therefore 2/1 or bigger were igood prices for the two favs.... And as an individual I thought Mojo Srar had a much better than 5% chance, so took the 19/1.
As much as I love Frankie I really believe he was outfoxed today. Moore rode a fantastic race along with Rossa Ryan to keep Strad boxed in. That's racing ...
Fair play to you of all the blarney Iv been reading your comment says it, as it was Moore boxed him in and Frankie had to sit and suffer best horse won but l thought!
I love the comments thats why you win so much. The last time an 8 yr old won was in 2009 Yeats, 1900 Merman and in 1842 a 9 yr old. Statistically Frankie Dettorri is correct and you are all wrong. Check the records and use it in the future that you may win some more money and have a methodical approach to the races
@@daleviker5884 you clearly dont use statistics in your checking so there are many races especially at Cheltenham that I know you dont fair well in. Good luck!!!
the reason of stradivarius loss very obvious is the jockey lack of strategy ... the connection of stradivarius must think and decide to change the jockey with a fighting heart and a good brain in top of the horse....the jockey is the key of stradivarius loss he is wek for me ....
Those saying it was a shocking ride by FD are probably talking out of their wallets. Stayed in touch, pulled out for clear air in the straight and ran on nicely. 8yo...he must be past his peak. Brave run I thought.
@@MachineThatCreates makes sense actually seeing as racehorses are started earlier, I googled it and it said that general peak age for a racehorse is 4.5. Not sure what hemisphere it was referring to though.
In a slowly run race like that it is easy to get boxed in. The error Frankie made was at the start. He had a lovely position then decided to drop him back further. That is the only mistake he made. Some of the comments criticising him for getting beat on the Queens horse at 2/5 just show the lack of knowledge of most people on here.
FrankI wants the goldiphin job back alright the horse is getting on a bit would never have caught the front 2 but giving all that ground away terrible ride
Strativarios should of never been back that far, he's a good staying horse, the ground he made up, if sitting in 3rd, he would of put 2-3 lengths on the field...frankie knows that and chose to stay on the rail....
I really don't know why Frankie, doesn't make more use of Stradivarius, who stays better than any other horses. Frustrating to see a great horse given no chance
What always amazes me is the fact that English tracks are probably the widest but the most horses seems to get blocked or denied a run in the UK. Even in a single digit number field at times. Really strange
Stradivarius would have won 5 gold cups with another jockey.he did the same in the arc with enable.i think it time frankie.there was absolutely no excuse just bad riding.its not as i it’s 5 furlongs he had two and half miles to get into position.stradivarius should retire now,he doesn’t want dettori on his back again.
Dettori is world 🌎 class things ain't going his way lately the ride in the Epsom oaks finishing 2 to Ryan more again a better position near the.pace would have change the outcome
I agree it was totally 100 percent dettris fault for where he placed his horse the exact same as last year how could you with all your experience if you got that horse handy from the start it would have won no doubt how could you do that frankie ????
Dettori messed that up big time !!
Typical Dettori least he can’t do it this time!
Will you be blaming the new jockey today?
@@lockoshocko it was a good ride by Andrea today just not quite good enough for the young Kyprios. Great race
Was like watching 2021 all over again a joke of a ride by dettori gosden deserves everything he gets by sticking with him
DETTORI INCOMPETENCE STRIKES AGAIN!
The Stradavarius of a few seasons back would probably have overhauled the first two. The Stradavarius of this and the last two seasons doesn't have the legs. Dettori rode a poor race.
His incompetence in big races is becoming worrying and painful to my wallet.
What was Dettori thinking on the turn home? Kyprios and Mojo Star were running on and Dettori should've trailed them into the race and when they veered toward the fence he would have been left with a clear path to the post without needing to change direction. He gave up a lot of ground and momentum pulling out so wide on Stradivarius.
he is overdue retirement
@@alanrossreviews Came to say exactly this!
Wouldn't admit he made a mistake and basically blamed defeat on Strad not being the horse he was. He may not be, but he would still have won if given a better ride.
Correct, he would have won if he kept that true line and popped out once through the traffic. I was on Crispy Cat in the 1st and exactly the same happened, could get a run, cut inside and then got blocked by the donkey that won the race. Would have won going away. Had £100 E/w on it, pff
Agreed. I couldn't see anything wrong with keeping the rail all the way home. He probably watched too many replays of last year of how he got held up before the turn in. I mean I look at Burning Victory's run and Strad would've crushed them had he been anywhere near that rail with the ground so firm there was no way Kyprios would be able to handle him. It's getting pretty easy to blame Frankie these days and I can't see a way to excuse him in this 1 today
Frankie Dettori did the same as last year , gets him stuck on the rail behind horses , then try’s to circle the field when the race begins.
And he wouldn’t have the pace to get out of trouble like that anyway. I was on the winner but the 2nd and 3rd ran big races
The Horse has to be held up that’s why it comes from behind that’s why it got blocked in that’s why it went wide have a look at the race properly there’s a good lad
Forget that it’s Dettori, that’s a shocking ride at any level.
Shush
The field was so bunched, it was impossible to move, but it's not a good look, and it wasn't a good ride.
Master class ride by Ryan Moore... Frankie better luck next year
First sensibible comment I've seen this. Brilliant from Ryan Moore. Held frsnke in the pocket then kicked for home.
A Moore masterpiece really
Absolutely shocking ride by Frankie, he didn't give the old boy a chance.
I agree totally
He needs to retire, not one winner all meeting and couldn’t even win on a 2/5 shot.
Yes that was a stinker, admittedly Moore has intentionally kept him in but to be the best you have to be tactically astute and not to let your opponents dictate what you do. He’s run a cracker but being in the wrong position has given him a mountain he couldn’t possibly climb.
100%...brutal ride! Then beat later on a 2/5...don't wanna say he's done but it's the beginning of the end of him! Got Lord North beat aswell yesterday...couldn't get the head gear off! Had a shocker.
Omg why did he pull Strad out so wide? Should have tried to get through the middle! Pretty sure he would have been much closer than that!
How many times does Frankie get stuck in the pack and then leave’s it too late.
esp this time...... coz Strad is NOT a 3yr old any more ( should have stayed at least 3 lengths ahead turning home... )
lost count of the nightmare rides dettori has had last couple of years, he needs to retire.
rather my hero Steve Cauthen ride than frankie. he seems to get trapped in many times in small fields too
Far too often at the moment, Emily upjohn a prime example
@@darrenremington6422 excellent point
Princess Zoe just crowded in the end. She was running good.
What a ride from moore, Frankie drawn 2 was always going to be inside, hitting that final bend, moore wouldn’t let him out, I think frankie got a lot of shit for the ride but you have to praise moore for genius tactical riding
Everybody criticizing Frankie, but it was a very smart ride by Ryan Moore.
It only looked that way because how bad frankie handicapped Stradivarius
Moore been band for 4days for his rideing
Smart ride from fouler Hanagan. 10 days but an Ascot Winner
kyprios is a machine.
Masterful Ryan Moore,enuff said
That was Stradivarius race really!!Dropped back, boxed in and then taken all the way around a wall of horses 😳
Thats your mate Frankie he should work in a slaughter house, when he comes to Aust we just put a line thru whoever he rides. Plus theres more than 8 runners in our Melb Cup. He's a has been.
His still the best
@@mariebrooker3264 should get revenge especially Dettori not riding
@@JPwhoknows Ryan was getting very serious with kyprios a long way out while strad was still travelling on the bridle, goodwood all about speed I think Strad will defo get revenge
@@johnnyboy6608 me too, I hope anyway. With a better ride as well as Dettori allowed Strad to get boxed in I think with a better tactic it’ll come out on top of Kyprios as you said that it come off the bridle a long way from home.
When you think about it gosden has missed out on 2 gold cups and a arc de triophme because of dettori.
Strad would never have won last year's Gold Cup against that machine, regardless of who rode strad
@@johnsonkevin1 machine,it only run twice.
@@C1tyground5155 who only ran twice?
Well done Aiden o Brien shows again why he's the best !!!
Easy with drugs
@@HopeIanHope nothing good to say then don’t say it
@@HopeIanHope stupid comment
Ian hope - Dry those little salty tears of yours 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪😎😎
@@Lowandhard06 Irish mafia 🤣😭😂😅
Dettori blames the horse for getting older. Look at yourself Frankie. Your decisions and foolery are becoming tiresome.
Stop betting lol
Oooooooh
I had no money on the race but that is 2 years running g Frankie has got trapped on the inside. Last year I don't think Stradivarius woulda won either way but this year I think Stradivarius would have won with a better ride. 🤷♂️
Kyprios was the bet for me all day
Mind you looking back at the race Dettori has let himself get boxed in.. number 1 rule dont get boxed in.. especially in such a race.
Top ride congrats .hands and heels. Good judgement . Keep out of traffic . Good job. 👍🏾🏇
Imagine if gosdens gave buick this ride. Strad would be a champ as deserved right now
Definitely
Not sure...hes 8 the best years are behind him..buick u just dont know
@@darrensmith4279 english? i dont understand what you just said
@@ryanhodson993 need a lesson in english.before u comment.hes 8yr old the horse..then who knows if hed won with buick on board......english english doh!!!!
@@darrensmith4279 sorry misread your comment mate but age was not really an aspect that lost the race it was the decision of the jockey buick was on a far worse horse and got 4. watch burning victory on the rail if that was strad on the rail hed be a 4x gold cup winner
Stradivarius should have won that race , Dettori let the horse get boxed in with too much to do but fair play to the winner who ran a great race and Ryan Moore who gave the horse every chance 👍
Next time Ryan more have to ride him let frankie take a rest
The time off the track showed on mojo star there, he headed the winner but just tired the last furlong.
......apparently Stradivarius has decided to replace Frankie as his preferred Jockey....😊😊.....
Frankie gave the race away yet again
Whatever about the ride frankie gave strad but what a ride ryan moore gave the winner best jockey in the world
J'adore Stradivarius. C'est un véritable crack et ce n'est pas sa défaite du jour que mon opinion va changer. Il est temps maintenant pour lui qu'il rejoigne le haras. J'attends déjà de voir ses futurs bébés.
This horse Mojo Star came second in the Derby, St Leger and now the Gold Cup that must be very frustrating for the owners
Would probably of won if it had a pipe opener to blow away the cobwebs
Many an owner would thank the Noble Lord if he had a horse that finished second in de Derby, Leger and GC. 😁
The prize money I'm sure makes up for it
Or very thrilled.
I had Mojo star without the kyprios at 13/2. Frankie Dettori is done and needs to retire.
Don't know about retiring Stradivarius, seem Dettori should be put out to pasture - two major F-ups in the Gold Cup and the Oaks.
Well said 👏 Emily cost me a lot of money 💰 🙄 you have to be in the first 6 going round tatnem corner or you can't win. quote from the great Lester piggott.
It really hurt to see a legendary horse be let down not one gold cup but 2 frankie really f up. Look at burning victory on near rail if strad is there we would be looking at a 2-3 length win
@@bobhadland2554 Emily missed the kick at Epsom.
How could Frankie possibly have had her in the first 6?
Frankie could have given Strad the dream run up the inside and you’d think he would of almost certainly won. Made the wrong choice on the day, unfortunate.
Glad the cocaine head didn't equal
Yeats....🤣🤣🤣
Disgusting say it how it is he stopped him. the only unfortunate thing was that frankie was riding Stradivarius .
Up the inside was always the way he should have went...disgraceful ride
@@williamkeenan2700 up the inside, where the horses who were leading were going to fade into?
The extra ground covered by Strad cost him a certain race, comments by Frankie in the paddock after the race that he lost to horses with fresh legs are not justified. No one else but himself to blame. Sadly the best horse lost.
Exactly ruined the chance for it to have another notch added to it's amazing legacy. I'm just glad he didn't mess it up even worse than what he did had it in a winning placepot.
I like frankie...his smile,openess,willingness to engage with reporters etc....but what this week at ascot has proven,is that frankie is not what he was
Twenty years ago,frankie would have grabbed this race by the neck and wrapped it up.
10 years ago,he would have been aware of what was going on and who was what.
It will happen to all of us...we hold on,thinking we are what we once was,but mother time is unbeaten through billions of years.
Let it go frankie,let it go.
You are dreaming if you think Frankie didn't make massive clangers back in the day. He is wonderful jock but just have a look at swain in the breeders cup and you will see this sort of thing has always been in his locker.
@@richfairclough123
I know very well about swain...
But look at all the great legendary ones,they have the same...or worse!
Lester piggott got nijinsky beat in the arc with a disgraceful,egotistical ride.
For all her great wins,the ride mike Smith gave zenyatta in her final race was inexcusable.
It's an ego,overconfidence and very human thing.
Bad thing for frankie is that he has had a nightmare week at Royal ascot this week and it follows on from his recent nightmare at Epsom.
@@milolee4746 then what's your point?
@@richfairclough123
He should retire.
Of course he will win more top,top races,but the oaks and gold Cup rides,because they were so close together,will remain a pain.
Why doesn't Dettori stay on the fence? Would of been a gap for sure.
Overated jockey!
Give credit were credit is due the winner is a 4 year was headed at the 200 and started running away with it in the end top ride and a very good horse
Not really, Stradivarius gave away more ground than he lost by, in a stop start race for him, not just at the end of the race, but when he was made to drop back through the field when going well, think Frankie thought he was riding Enable in her prime, he dug an hole for Stradivarius that was near impossible for him to Stradivarius to get out of,
our Aussie callers are waaaaay better and more entertaining
A bloody pain to the ears more like. If you don't like the commentary piss off!
Great to see European racing where it's not a 3 horse Field and someone just can sit behind a pacemaker and just win paying $1.20.. that looked competitive
You can see why lester piggot was the best jockey ever,I couldn’t see him making these clangers
Cauthen was the best jockey ever
@@richardbogulak9814 are you insane.
@@C1tyground5155 why
@@richardbogulak9814 there is no jockey even close to matching piggott’s achievments.only last week Cauthen himself said piggott was the best.
@@C1tyground5155 cauthen was pissed up on vino grigio when he said that he ain't going to admit that he was the best wake up to yourself sonny boy
I had Zoe and she got mugged and lost all chance. The racing at Royal Ascot has been shocking this week, aside from that incredible Aussie winner of the King Stand.
Had Kyprios Zoe Reverse forecast, Zoe got cut up in the straight bad
Jesus twice in half an hour a bad ride cost him too winners .
and again with Saga what a joke
@@majjik3948 and again I lumped on claymore
yestday tooo .... Lord north
To be fair he done nothing wrong on reach for the moon. The other 2 are unforgivable sooner he retires the better
Congratulations!
A top ride by Moore. That's what the best do. Didn't understand what Dettori was doing. Should have been there at the finish.
Frankie dettori n yet another bad fucking ride I don't know why he don't get down from the horse...
Hands-on
face emoji FRANKIE!!!
Gosden, O'Brien and other trainers suffer from Dettoriitis. Gosden is lucky to have Robert Havlin to ride in mickey mouse races.
No longer. Gosden has given Dettori the royal boot.
Oh dear Frankie. Could see he was going to muck that up from over a circuit out - that takes some doing.
Gosden deserves everything he is getting in not choosing to get a competent jockey when everybody can see Dettori is done.
You are done as a jockey
Obrien gifted the oaks and gold by dettori. Bad rides.
Stradivarius should have been running 2nd or 3rd given his draw and the tempo of that race.
If he was he would have won that by 4-5 lengths
And that’s allowing for the fact he’s 3-4 lengths slower than he was 3 years ago
Stradivarius is some horse
How well did he do there after not being able to get out
If he had a clear run he wins handy for me
Considering not his ground and the ride he was given the horse was incredible. So much ground wasted. Stradavarius did all he could to win and jockey did all he could to mess it up.
@@suemaher5282 agreed 👍
Stradivarius is a machine
Frankie did him no favours
I have a lot of time for Dettori but some of his riding lately is hard to understand. This was another horrible tactical misjudgement. Stradivarius is a thorough stayer so why have the horse near the back in a slowly run race which ended with a two furlong dash. He was in totally the wrong place coming into the straight and if you court disaster you often get it.
Likewise, I have lot of time for Dettori, but I think he overthought his tactics and got it wrong. Some experts say that if he waited for the gap he still would not have won. I think if he waited for the gap he would have won with the turn of foot Stradivarius showed.
My money was on Moore and Kyprios, but I would not have been sorry to see Stradivarius equal Yeats with four Gold Cups.
Frankie blew stradavarius chances .. the worst ride I’ve seen in a long time .
It never had a prayer of winning anyway
Fav was printing free money
And in the Oaks on Emily Up John.
Watch it closely as great ride by Moore he kept frankie in the whole race
Ian Mullhall:
Not really, Dettori kept himself in, he could have moved forward but was too busy trying to counter Kyprios.
@@nightowl7459 🤡
Get the impression strad would of had that.
If I had money on I would be livid.
Dozy Dettori, a text book ride in how to lose races.
Mojo Star fastest horse in the race however he got outstayed and ended up a slow finisher.
Kyprios really fast also and more steady, Stardivarius was competing but Kyprios always had him imo. Good winner, impressive times by most though, good Ascot Gold Cup.
Moore states his horse was much the best, it did seem he went on again, but looks more of a case Mojo Star slowed right down.
Oh Mr Dettori 😫
It's always easy to be wise after the event, but I honestly can't understand why Dettori didn't have Stradivarius a little near the front were a gap was a little more likely to have opened up instead of keeping the horse in mid division? I believe Gosden is asking similar question, I will be surprised if the Dettori and Gosden survives to the end of the season.
Because that's his run style. He was unlucky because the gaps didn't open up
@@wilf7042 He was "unlucky" because he was didn't ride the horse closer to the pace, even Gosden Stradivarius trainer has voiced similar, he could have still got plenty of cover moving the horse closer to the pace instead of holding him back so he could try to counter the favourite Kyprios which he was obviously intending to do.
@@wilf7042 He's done that before on this horse didn't work then and didn't work today. Frankie blamed the horse. If that's his style I give up
@@suemaher5282 True, all he had to do is what Buick did on Coroebus, instead he's keeping Stradivarius back and has ended up having to give away valuable ground coming around the field in the end.
@@nightowl7459 Buick is a proper jockey who has his mind on the race. Frankie has his mind on Frankie. Looks like his getting a whip ban today I hated the way he whipped Stradavarius. People say he is one of the greatest jockeys I don't see that. He's gd at promoting racing by clowning about and he's lucky Gosden chose him but twice this week Gosden has looked pretty angry at his rides.
How many weeks did the jockey get
Sad to say but Frankie's proved a few times now that he's not the jock he was. Sad day for Strad he couldve won it.
Was really rooting for Strad, but Frankie hasn't been having a good day today at all, including this race. Bummer! Strad was really coming on with more energy than any of them!
The Queens horse was beat by a horse that never beat a single horse in a 15 runner race 1 month ago over in France.
Weird funny game at times.
@@G4RY1159 well if you know your racing you'll know he ran too free in the French guineas from a terrible draw so you could put a line through that run
@@robertdelacy3434 Someone tell G4ry that Claymore finished second to Native trail in the craven 😂😜
@@John-ed2wj it was the craven
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Put another jockey on at Goodwood please Mr Gosden
......this was a slow motion car crash as far as riding tactics are concerned.....
Farce of a race. The season's premier staying race effectively reduced to a two furlong sprint.
Terrible ride...beginning of the end for Frankie! He's had his day.
His beginning of the end started years ago
Dear oh dear Frankie. On mojo star myself thought I had it.
Never had such a a massive crushing disappointment than today having Mojo Star at 18/1
That said what a throughly enjoyable race and with a good winner getting back up who outstayed his rival.
Only criticism form wise, you’d rather they’d beat Burning Victory more easier than they did, she’s a very good mare but you would rather see a bit more distance, Trueshan can still beat these if the ground comes in his favour imo.
@@drofheim top class horse should be able to go on any ground
@@robertdelacy3434 yes, still doesn’t take away that Trueshan has a chance against the placed horses here and I’d say beats them on a slower surface.
@@robertdelacy3434 What? That's a ridiculous thing to say.
@@John-ed2wj why is it?
Dettori rode an absolute shocker and then blamed the horse... boxed in on the rail, gave the horse no chance
Back on the Coke by looks of that Ride
How does Frankie Dettori keep his job. He butchered the ride on Emily Upjohn too.
Left both of them with way much to do, they're horses not machines.
Fantastic ...
Dettori the most overrated jockey I've known in 50 years of watching racing. I admire his passion and will to win but he's a bang average jockey, don't tell me about the many winners he's had and the Ascot 8 race win, he's in the best yard. He's bang average and regularly outs in poor performances. I'm no hater, it's not personal, he's just average.
Only horse I liked him on was Enable, and even then he rode her terribly in her two last arc runs. She would've won a third arc if it wasn't for him.
Small field, marathon distance, messed up last year-surely won’t make the same mistake? He does!
Horse never had a prayer of winning regardless who the jockey was
Francie was too confident and then blown it bad ride
That's what happens when you over think.
Dettori wins had he stayed on the rail , to worried about princess zoe and decided to hunt a space when it would if opened up and he wins by two lenths.
After he watched the race again he relised.
Stradavarius deserved better today than Frankie whipping him so many times when he got straight and then blaming the horse for his bad ride. Retire him or change the jockey.
Far too slow coming forward. What a big fat shame
what have frankie and rab got in common? they were both chucked out for 6 Months? or was it a year?? chuck them out again i say, all of this makes the appreciation and admiration for Lester Piggott even more poignant and indeed accurate to describe as THE greatest Jockey of all time , He would never in a BILLION years make the same errors dettori has made , he even won the Breeders Cup at almost 55yo ....incredible, the italian is a liability, frankie ,,,, you were never fit to clean Lester's Boots nevermind take the p ss out of him by calling him Grand Dad , who's the Grand Dad now???
Strad should have 5 gold cups to his name now, instead he has only 3 because of the absolute incompetence from Dettori, shameful riding.
Simply want Stradivarius to continue…he provides so many people strength and inspiration…lovely horse
@@careykrause289 Agreed, he's incredible..💙
@@Tony-ey5zl enjoyable article for the owner’s views…quite long. 'He's Absolutely Going To Cover Flat Mares Only': Bjorn Nielsen on Stradivarius's Future Stud Career
That is two Gold Cups Frankie lost not Stradivarius horse had no hope ,The class horse lost through bad riding.
And the Oaks on Emily up John.
An absolutely disgusting ride from Frankie. Ridiculous.
I backed Stradivarius and Mojo Star with a saver on Kyprios. Ah! tbh I think had Frankie been able to get out when he wanted - Stradivarius going better than both Kyprios and Mojo at the time. The fourth came from the back and found an easy way through up the inner. Had Frankie done the same would've won. That said, had he done so rival jockeys would be more likely be looking for fancied horses and closed the door. As it was first Ryan and then Rossa Ryan brilliant jockeyship in keeping Frankie in. That's racing.
You had a saver on the fav 😄
@@robertdelacy3434 Yes, it was antepost. Last week - with this heatwave forecast - Kyprios and Stradivarius's supposed main rivals Trueshan and Scope were never going to take part on good-firm. So backed Stradivarius with a Kyprios saver. Wanted to also back Mojo Star but as this was his reappearance best to be sure he'd run., so waited. Unfortunately though, this morning with Kyprios extremely short and that stat of three disappointing English runs stat - I laid some of it back. Oops.
Interesting betting system , that one.
@@johnristheanswer Thanks, I think LOL. If believing any horse overpriced (in percentage terms) I back it however many I may have already backed in the race. Backing the horse / horses I believe are the best value as main bet/s and the lesser value as savers. Sometimes make my own 100% book but here seemed to me (without Trueshan and Scope) Kyprios had more than a third chance, Stradivarius roughly the same, with The Field (together) less than a third. Therefore 2/1 or bigger were igood prices for the two favs.... And as an individual I thought Mojo Srar had a much better than 5% chance, so took the 19/1.
Did you have Reach For The Moon each way?
Can tell Dettori is lacking confidence. Normally he would just sit tight and wait for the gap to appear
As much as I love Frankie I really believe he was outfoxed today. Moore rode a fantastic race along with Rossa Ryan to keep Strad boxed in. That's racing ...
Fair play to you of all the blarney Iv been reading your comment says it, as it was Moore boxed him in and Frankie had to sit and suffer best horse won but l thought!
I love the comments thats why you win so much. The last time an 8 yr old won was in 2009 Yeats, 1900 Merman and in 1842 a 9 yr old. Statistically Frankie Dettorri is correct and you are all wrong. Check the records and use it in the future that you may win some more money and have a methodical approach to the races
Pointless comment. Yeats and Merman wouldn't be in the record books if they were ridden as badly either.
@@daleviker5884 you clearly dont use statistics in your checking so there are many races especially at Cheltenham that I know you dont fair well in. Good luck!!!
Is Frankie riding for the bookies these days? His last big race rides have been diabolical. Give up Frankie.
the reason of stradivarius loss very obvious is the jockey lack of strategy ... the connection of stradivarius must think and decide to change the jockey with a fighting heart and a good brain in top of the horse....the jockey is the key of stradivarius loss he is wek for me ....
Frankie is too arrogant, incredibly bad ride,,, don't know what he was thinking,, stradivarius actually ran his heart out
Those saying it was a shocking ride by FD are probably talking out of their wallets. Stayed in touch, pulled out for clear air in the straight and ran on nicely. 8yo...he must be past his peak. Brave run I thought.
8 year old is a prime age in all other horse sports.
@@OfficialMuffiin and 5/6 is prime for racehorses (southern hemisphere).
@@MachineThatCreates makes sense actually seeing as racehorses are started earlier, I googled it and it said that general peak age for a racehorse is 4.5. Not sure what hemisphere it was referring to though.
In a slowly run race like that it is easy to get boxed in.
The error Frankie made was at the start.
He had a lovely position then decided to drop him back further.
That is the only mistake he made.
Some of the comments criticising him for getting beat on the Queens horse at 2/5 just show the lack of knowledge of most people on here.
FrankI wants the goldiphin job back alright the horse is getting on a bit would never have caught the front 2 but giving all that ground away terrible ride
Say what you like the best horse won the race run it again and Stradivarius still won’t have won it
I was on the winner!! But on a serious not Frankie needs to retire!!!
Strativarios should of never been back that far, he's a good staying horse, the ground he made up, if sitting in 3rd, he would of put 2-3 lengths on the field...frankie knows that and chose to stay on the rail....
I really don't know why Frankie, doesn't make more use of Stradivarius, who stays better than any other horses. Frustrating to see a great horse given no chance
Exactly
At those fractions with an inside draw he could have been sitting 2nd or 3rd and still had plenty in the tank at the end.
What always amazes me is the fact that English tracks are probably the widest but the most horses seems to get blocked or denied a run in the UK. Even in a single digit number field at times. Really strange
Stradivarius would have won 5 gold cups with another jockey.he did the same in the arc with enable.i think it time frankie.there was absolutely no excuse just bad riding.its not as i it’s 5 furlongs he had two and half miles to get into position.stradivarius should retire now,he doesn’t want dettori on his back again.
Frankie should have been in a better position earlier rather than hoping a gap would open, had he been in a better position he would have won IMO.
Dettori is world 🌎 class things ain't going his way lately the ride in the Epsom oaks finishing 2 to Ryan more again a better position near the.pace would have change the outcome
Bet you any money any jokey other then Frankie would easily win that race with Stradivarius this horse is a proven machine
I agree it was totally 100 percent dettris fault for where he placed his horse the exact same as last year how could you with all your experience if you got that horse handy from the start it would have won no doubt how could you do that frankie ????