15 hours around Carlisle, Mossband and Quintinshill with Midland Pullman and Class 37. 18 June 24
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- Midland Pullman and Class 37
Long Day of trains around Carlisle, Mossband and Quintinshill
18 June 24
18th June - almost the longest day - when the beautiful Blue Pullman took an excursion north to Oban and back. That set the limits of my day's recording - from 7am until almost 10pm!
Starting out at Mossband, between Carlisle and Gretna Junction where the railway runs dead straight north-south. Then or the morning at Quintinshill. The passing oops there on a nice sweeping curve, the site of the worst railway accident in British railway history.
Then a couple of visits to Carlisle's Citadel Station where I caught a West Coast Class 37 heading south to Carnforth and in the evening freight after freight, finishing off with the Midland Pullman heading south.
I'll admit to a couple of glitches - I'm still trying to establish the optical limits of my new smartphone.
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Fantastic Video. Well Done.
Thank you very much!
Did I spy, what looked like, an old 12T ventilated van in the middle of the auto ballasters Leslie? Good location at Quintinshill !
Well I spotted it but thought no, it can't be! Metal bodied but a lot of ventilation grills. I hadn't used that end of the loops for some time but will revisit it soon
Another great video. Had missed the last couple because life had gotten in the way. Thanks for sharing.
Welcome back!
Bom dia lelie excelente video amei movimentação de trem 4:24
Thanks
Fantastic mix of locations and trains, Les! A long day, but a good chance to get some great footage!
Many thanks! Certainly was long but I think the change of scenery helped
I joined British Rail as an apprentice in 1971 and can well rember the goods train accident at Quintinshill
where a class 37 was sitting on top of the brakevan of the train it crashed into.
some places seem to attract accidents.
Thanks for another great selection of loco's.
Yes, I've heard of that one too.
Its an accident that passed me by. I;ll have to look into it
@@LeslieGilpinRailways I think it was in 1972, i have had a look but can't find any details of it.
But i can visualise seeing the Class 37 on top of the guards van thinking that anyone in there
would not have survived.
I had just started on the job training in the S&T Dept after 12 months at Carlsle tech college.
@@LeslieGilpinRailways I think it was similar to the famous accident The signalman forgot he had stopped a freight outside the box to let another train pass and let the 37's run into it.
Another great video Les some good zooming at Quintiinshill excellent location for it , has the Pullman lost a coach thought it had 9 on board ? that was a superb 12 hourer well done mate , top man, hope you managed to get some snap at some stage , lol thanks for sharing take care a t b Syd 👍
Thanks. The Pullman was running short form, with only 8.
You noticed as well. Usually it runs 2 seating, 1 food prep, 3 seating, 1 food prep, 2 seating. I suppose if they don't have the custom, they can drop off a seating coach.
What an excellent video Les. A long day for you but well worth it. Did I count 43 wagons on the Dagenham bound train. John
It was something like that - as long as the Tesco intermodal. Thanks
I think a visit from the weedkiller train is long overdue at Carlisle station !!
It was around the last few weeks ago! They always ignore station areas
Leslie, 1S45 8:30 Euston Glasgow was booked to return on 1M14 Glasgow - Euston so was probably 390128!
I knew it would head back but I get bogged down in trying to work out which.
Interesting to see that - even after all these years - the infamous passing loops at Quintinshill are still in situ (although the singalbox is long gone), reminding us of how dangerous the railways can be.
Not only are the loops there but also in use! Many though have forgotten totally of the tragic events there
@LeslieGilpinRailways It remains a grim case study on how a seemingly non-critical human decision between two colleagues that allowed a little flexibility on shift change times could lead to the biggest loss of life on the UK's railways. What fascinates me the most is how many opportunities were missed to avoid the disaster. So typical of many catastrophic events.
And despite all thats been written, I personally don't think the true cause has been established, just a little closer each time. What is for certain, the Caledonian Railway re-employed one of the signalmen and he retired from British Railways, although in a low grade.
@LeslieGilpinRailways Yep, that's true.l they did. I've watched and read a great deal about the event, and I'm inclined to go with the human error version of events, as opposed to the conspiracy view. But who knows?
For some reason Royal Mail have stopped using ECML So the only ones now are on your side.
I thought there was one left on the ECML. This week has seen a whole new timetable for mail trains through Carlisle
@@LeslieGilpinRailways It ran for the last time last Friday 15 06 2024. It was only one unit so looks like it did not carry enough to justify it. I wonder if they drive lorries over to the West now
I misread what a friend had written on noting the new Mail timetable.. By road from Warrington or Shieldmuir?
@@LeslieGilpinRailways From what I heard from Low Fell at Newcastle to Shieldmuir. I am not sure about Warrington maybe that station is also closing