The Roadman Podcast keeps getting better and better and the guests you attract reflect that. Some of these interviews are the most in depth conversations with the best minds in the sport. I hope you keep growing this fantastic channel. You exemplify listening to understand rather than to respond.
One of those podcasts that come along at the perfect timing. This week I couldn't complete a long sub threshold effort because of stupidly doing intervals the day before and sleeping poorly so I rode tempo. Next day riding at the top of Z2 was rough even. Went to scout new steep climb and walked it. I found I was Z2 walking up steep sections. And was thinking an occasional long hike might be a good change of pace for endurance. Got a lot of confirmation from this. The bit about heartrate jumping up and potentially working a different zone is something that has been on my mind too. One of your best podcasts and great guest. Thank you!
Interesting point about different performance levels of two riders with the same threshold at the end of a long race after fatigue. I think this is one of the reasons why the pros need to do the long endurance rides at Z2 - not just aerobic development but also teaching the body to produce high energy outputs. Eg a pro Z2 4 hour ride at 270W say would burn a load more calories than a 2x20 threshold at 420W session.
Very good points. I can only say that nutrition is a big lever that is often not used to the full extent. I have started to use the food coaching service of Visma a few months ago and have made a lot of progress. It‘s exactly as Dan said, you lear a lot and use it automatically. Also, as a now older rider, it is surprising what you can get out of strength training.
Great episode. As a person aspiring to be an amateur, it's great to get actionable info like this. Consistency and being able to absorb the training are definitely my key takeaways here.
Some really interesting insights, totally agree on investing in a coach, for me it's as much about learning as much as I can from a coach as it is weekly programming.
Great pod, all the way through it reminded me of Man is the only mammal that sells his health to earn money, and then spends his money to buy health. Great perspective today on training.
Seems like his priority list is flipped around versus most programs. He listed intensity first, then volume, lastly frequency. Inverted from what is usually prescribed. Maybe I misunderstood.
Wasn’t it in the context of time being the limiting factor, if you don’t have time for several hours of Z2 riding then you increase intensity and decrease duration
Maybe. Still seems like frequency is still a/the top priority for most of these coaches. At one point he essentially says consistency is the number one issue, which seems contradictory to me. Maybe it's my bias. He could have easily misspoke. Gotta be a little tough talking about these issues outside of your native language.
@@RedGunBulletsyeah based on what he said it's a balancing act. If you choose to pull the endurance lever so to speak then less intensity or vice versa. Even within a training block as volume increases intensity may decrease.
Interesting he would choose heartrate if he had to work with only one. That's how i did 25 years ago. Rested heart rate and feeling in the morning to decide if ride or not. My zone 2 Was 115-130. I won't ever forget :P
I've always found a LOWER heart rate is a sign of fatigue, not higher? I've never achieved a high heart rate unless I've tapered too much or had too many days off the bike in a row.
A higher resting HR can be a sign of fatigue. But also, the inability to get your HR up (if it’s less responsive) during hard work can also be a sign of fatigue.
just out of interest dud Roglic ever compete in Nordic combined. He ckearly has the stamina and fitness for the cross country - and his first sport was ski jumping...
I want to start by saying I absolutely regard Roglic as a supper human. One of the most talented athletes ever. For those who don’t know Roglic started as ski jumper, one of the best till he almost died from a fall. He moved to cycling around age 18 without any prior cycling training. With that being said; I truly hope his new team can help him manage his temptations of riding close and often pas his skill ability. Roglic sucks at descending and personally I don’t think it’s due to his ability but rather it has to do with his physiological inability to mage fear and emotions when riding at stupid speeds. I wouldn’t be surprised if this let’s call it mental block comes from his ski fall back in the day. He has become a joke of the peleton, I mean almost without a fail every year he has a major fall. wtf…
He doesn't sucks at descending. He crashes a lot but not often on downhills. Just watch some races where he's descending. TdF 2018 stage 19 for example or last stage of Itsulia 2021
21:21 zone 2 is over rated. The low hanging fruit is ride at the intensity you need for your race goal at a minimum. Racing is always far more intense than most people’s training.
Bmanz. It's not over rated if you understand what it does and what it provides for zone4 work. Otherwise you're missing significant gains.. there's science based evidence that supports this.
The Roadman Podcast keeps getting better and better and the guests you attract reflect that. Some of these interviews are the most in depth conversations with the best minds in the sport. I hope you keep growing this fantastic channel. You exemplify listening to understand rather than to respond.
One of those podcasts that come along at the perfect timing. This week I couldn't complete a long sub threshold effort because of stupidly doing intervals the day before and sleeping poorly so I rode tempo. Next day riding at the top of Z2 was rough even. Went to scout new steep climb and walked it. I found I was Z2 walking up steep sections. And was thinking an occasional long hike might be a good change of pace for endurance. Got a lot of confirmation from this. The bit about heartrate jumping up and potentially working a different zone is something that has been on my mind too. One of your best podcasts and great guest. Thank you!
This is very good content. The two guys i coach are in their sixties and i work with what theu can do time wise and realistic. Consistency is key .
Interesting point about different performance levels of two riders with the same threshold at the end of a long race after fatigue. I think this is one of the reasons why the pros need to do the long endurance rides at Z2 - not just aerobic development but also teaching the body to produce high energy outputs. Eg a pro Z2 4 hour ride at 270W say would burn a load more calories than a 2x20 threshold at 420W session.
Very good points. I can only say that nutrition is a big lever that is often not used to the full extent. I have started to use the food coaching service of Visma a few months ago and have made a lot of progress. It‘s exactly as Dan said, you lear a lot and use it automatically. Also, as a now older rider, it is surprising what you can get out of strength training.
Nice jacket dude
Great episode. As a person aspiring to be an amateur, it's great to get actionable info like this. Consistency and being able to absorb the training are definitely my key takeaways here.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great guest! Epic details shared there ,thanks!
Great information. Thank you for drawing a line in the sand between amateur and professional needs.
Some really interesting insights, totally agree on investing in a coach, for me it's as much about learning as much as I can from a coach as it is weekly programming.
Great podcast, especially the last 15 minutes, great explanation of train smart, not hard
Unbelievably I’ve. And informative. Will listen a few times I think. So good.
Glad it was helpful! Please pass it along to friends who you think would benefit
Great pod, all the way through it reminded me of
Man is the only mammal that sells his health to earn money, and then spends his money to buy health.
Great perspective today on training.
Great informative content. We are very lucky to be able to learn from such experts.
I was just thinking that, what an age we live in that we can pick the brain of these type of guys. Thanks for tuning in
@@TheRoadmanPodcast indeed, but you are also asking great questions and bringing the discussion in the right direction. Thank you!
This is so sick!
Seems like his priority list is flipped around versus most programs. He listed intensity first, then volume, lastly frequency. Inverted from what is usually prescribed. Maybe I misunderstood.
Wasn’t it in the context of time being the limiting factor, if you don’t have time for several hours of Z2 riding then you increase intensity and decrease duration
Maybe. Still seems like frequency is still a/the top priority for most of these coaches. At one point he essentially says consistency is the number one issue, which seems contradictory to me. Maybe it's my bias. He could have easily misspoke. Gotta be a little tough talking about these issues outside of your native language.
@@RedGunBulletsyeah based on what he said it's a balancing act. If you choose to pull the endurance lever so to speak then less intensity or vice versa. Even within a training block as volume increases intensity may decrease.
Bring it on..❤
Great talk 🎉
Sivakov is on UAE though. You mean Vlasov?
good catch
Interesting he would choose heartrate if he had to work with only one.
That's how i did 25 years ago. Rested heart rate and feeling in the morning to decide if ride or not.
My zone 2 Was 115-130.
I won't ever forget :P
I've always found a LOWER heart rate is a sign of fatigue, not higher? I've never achieved a high heart rate unless I've tapered too much or had too many days off the bike in a row.
A higher resting HR can be a sign of fatigue. But also, the inability to get your HR up (if it’s less responsive) during hard work can also be a sign of fatigue.
Hope that jacket was on sale 😂
just out of interest dud Roglic ever compete in Nordic combined. He ckearly has the stamina and fitness for the cross country - and his first sport was ski jumping...
how'd he know I was an amateur:)
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I want to start by saying I absolutely regard Roglic as a supper human. One of the most talented athletes ever. For those who don’t know Roglic started as ski jumper, one of the best till he almost died from a fall.
He moved to cycling around age 18 without any prior cycling training. With that being said; I truly hope his new team can help him manage his temptations of riding close and often pas his skill ability. Roglic sucks at descending and personally I don’t think it’s due to his ability but rather it has to do with his physiological inability to mage fear and emotions when riding at stupid speeds. I wouldn’t be surprised if this let’s call it mental block comes from his ski fall back in the day.
He has become a joke of the peleton, I mean almost without a fail every year he has a major fall. wtf…
He doesn't sucks at descending. He crashes a lot but not often on downhills. Just watch some races where he's descending. TdF 2018 stage 19 for example or last stage of Itsulia 2021
@@ВикторПантелеев-х8ь I have followed his career pretty closely; very familiar with his story and well aware of his pitfalls.
@@ВикторПантелеев-х8ь I’m very familiar with this career. Slovenia’s national pride.
21:21 zone 2 is over rated. The low hanging fruit is ride at the intensity you need for your race goal at a minimum. Racing is always far more intense than most people’s training.
depends on the goal.
@@sean7098also depends on how much time is available
Bmanz. It's not over rated if you understand what it does and what it provides for zone4 work.
Otherwise you're missing significant gains.. there's science based evidence that supports this.
Thanks man, why aren't you coaching Bora-Hansgrohe ?
@@Celeritate7 If you're responding to me, it's not my main job and just a hobby.
20-25 year old information. Cycling social media makes me laugh ... everything old is new again.
Not likely he keep crashing 😂