If you enjoyed this podcast you should check out my chat with Former Junior Road & Time Trial Champ Geneviève Jeanson. Geneviève opens up about EPO use during her career and a shocking relationship with her coach, where she was emotionally, physically and sexually assaulted. th-cam.com/video/3sbtA2TXvy8/w-d-xo.html
My compliments on your channel. You have great guests and ask insightful and thoughtful questions which brings out the best in them. I’ve learned a great deal from listening to your interviews. Please keep up your amazing work.
Excellent interview as always. You really know how to make your guest comfortable to bring out their true feelings. Jay was being so diplomatic with both of his team experiences, and you didn’t push that. Very professional!!
asking him about how it feels when a teammate wins (at 40:00 ) just reminded me so much of the "ADAMMMMM" scream at this years vuelta from Vine, he was so hyped for his teammate to win, it was adorable
I must say I’m a big fan of your interviewing style. You clearly do your research a build thought provoking questions based off of that. Keep it up Anthony 👍
Fascinating listening to two really bright guys analysing the sport I've loved for over 50 years,and realising I know bugger all about it.Fantastic channel,every success going forward,thank you.
He’s reflective, observant, well-spoken. Seems like a good guy I see interviews like this and think what a good example, these riders are not in fact taking drugs. Let’s hope not
A lot like Levi Leipheimer, Tyler Hamilton and Dave Zebriskie...all reflective, observant and well-spoken😅 Those traits have nothing to do with the drugs these guys take.
@@veganpotterthevegan we disagree on how articulate are the riders you mention. and agree that speaking performance is unrelated to drug taking, in fact better speakers may be better at hiding facts and thus at taking drugs
@paulsolon6229 none of these guys are scientists. They're simply told how to avoid testing positive(obviously Tyler wasn't too successful with that) and listen. And being articulate has nothing to do with their ability to listen to doctors about what and when to take whatever they were taking at a given time. *I've spoken quite a bit to all 3 of the guys I mentioned. They're definitely well spoken, albeit Dave is very odd.
Thank you so much for the great content. Jay wasn't on my radar that much, but what a great guy! Last thing is I just do not believe one of the best riders in the world would not pedal for three weeks with a broken wrist, knowing only limited time is available for probably his A-goal this year. Totally get it that your body needs to recover, but with his CTL even easy riding on a trainer will probably not harm his recovery.
I'm sure Pogi was on the turbo trainer during those weeks but that's very different from training. It might not impact his recovery but you won't make serious gains from the training when recovering from illness or injury. The best you could hope for would be to maintain some what you have. As an example the Norwegian national cross country ski team won't take an athlete to an altitude camp if they have so much as a sniffle because that athlete simply won't make the desired adaptations so it's just a waste of time and money. The same goes for broken bones. The body puts its energy into healing over increasing fitness. I think that's what Jay is getting at. Sure he was technically sitting on a bike turning the pedals but he wasn't really "on the bike"
Cyclist Jay Vine stands out for his exceptional skills and dedication. With an unwavering passion for cycling, he consistently delivers outstanding performances. His commitment to rigorous training allows him to excel in various terrains and conditions. Jay's strategic mindset, combined with his strong physical abilities, enables him to make tactical decisions that often lead to victory. His humility and sportsmanship also make him a respected figure in the cycling community. Jay Vine's remarkable achievements and continuous growth showcase his potential to become a dominant force in the world of cycling for years to come.
He needs to work on positioning, bunch riding and not crashing. He might be physically on a top 40 level climbing, but he needs to work on his bike handeling.
Would have been nice to have more information about his training plan, what level of intensity and how many hours for each levels. The title seems to say that we are going to hear about his training program or related subjects, when Jay only mentioned reducing his training hours per week. I'm still hungry for the details :)
He, he, easy to see why Jay's friends with LR! And he did a great job of not saying straight up that what UAE needs to improve is overall strategy and daily tactics in GTs, i.e. ride like TJV does. Will be interesting to see if they try that with the team they've got for 2024 and become the team to beat. Also, I wonder why you seemed surprised when Jay explained how TJV rode to wear down Pogi. They started to plan that approach in late 2021 and have implemented it very successfully in the TdF for two years running now. They did the same in the recent Vuelta except the opponents in that race were easier to wear down.
Thanks for the great and interesting podcast. Can you bring up the topic of nutrition for gluten-free athletes, and especially for celiacs who want to train regularly, with an emphasis on endurance athletes who need to get food on the go or take everything from home.
Si Richardson on GCN is celiac and has mentioned it on at least one video I've seen; might be worth checking their back catalog, or else putting in a request for a video.....
I love so much about the kind of rider that Jay is, especially the way he includes his wife, Bri as part of the team. One of the things I struggle with, though, is how data driven he is, I think we are losing the ability to understand and trust the sensations of our body.
"it all exists in their own ecosystem" is not really an argument for AI, but a sign that simple digitisation by far isn't where it could be yet. You don't need chatGPT for basic correlation. I feel like there are so many applications where non-machine-learning-adjacent people don't realize you don't solve bad data with AI, quite the opposite actually
I really hope every rider is aware if an employer, even if it’s a cycling team, hire a psychologist to work with you it’s most likely the employer has full access to every conversation, I’d be very wary for privacy reasons
Rohan Dennis has mentioned this before. Pretty sure he said he basically lied to the sports psychologist or held a lot back because he didn't trust the confidentiality
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444no, of course we don’t. We think they are all doped… very much including Pogacar, the Yates twins, G, Eeeeevenepoel, Soler, Ayuso - and Jay Vine.
Lol at the nonsense about AI, where the hell did that nonsense come from 😂 Glad to see Jay comprehensively slap that one down 😁 AI zealots in the same camp as bitcoin zealots for me - an overhyped circle-jerk
@@Eirikkinserdal I think he tried to make up for that lost time(and the stress of that) and that when combined with his classics season simply caught up to him and left him fatigued/slightly over trained
simple science hear, u need 3 times as much food intake when u break a bone and remember he started the race with a broken bone still healing and doing what he did for 2 weeks, that's more alien stuff and a super human ability.@@johnnycab8986
As Jay says here, it's not rocket science. Jumbo-Visma worked out how to wear him down over three weeks, just enough for him to not win the TdF. Helped by his own explanation of his weakness on G's podcast in late 2021. They planned accordingly and have successfully implemented their plans two years in a row now. They did the same with their opponents in the most recent Vuelta, except they were a lot easier to wear down.
Look man cycling is a failed sport, all of these guys are doping now due to the passport....plus a lot of them are using motors like MVP. Total bullshiit
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If you enjoyed this podcast you should check out my chat with Former Junior Road & Time Trial Champ Geneviève Jeanson. Geneviève opens up about EPO use during her career and a shocking relationship with her coach, where she was emotionally, physically and sexually assaulted. th-cam.com/video/3sbtA2TXvy8/w-d-xo.html
It's quite an interesting recommendation for people interested in details Jay talked about, to delve into topics like EPO, sexual harassment.
Love Jay Vine's honesty. What a legend.
Yeah zero football speak "at the end of the day". Cuts through the small talk and always has substance
Love Benji and Roadman!
My compliments on your channel. You have great guests and ask insightful and thoughtful questions which brings out the best in them. I’ve learned a great deal from listening to your interviews. Please keep up your amazing work.
Excellent interview as always. You really know how to make your guest comfortable to bring out their true feelings. Jay was being so diplomatic with both of his team experiences, and you didn’t push that. Very professional!!
asking him about how it feels when a teammate wins (at 40:00 ) just reminded me so much of the "ADAMMMMM" scream at this years vuelta from Vine, he was so hyped for his teammate to win, it was adorable
Bloody love Jay Vine. The man is as sharp as a tack and really sees the sport well.
I must say I’m a big fan of your interviewing style. You clearly do your research a build thought provoking questions based off of that. Keep it up Anthony 👍
cycling level: "Contador eating a bad steak" 🤣🤣
17:53 Lactate, Jay, lactate. Ask Dr. Iñigo. This was a superb interview. So many insights. Thanks a lot!
Keep up the awesome work lad. The hard work is paying off with the channel growing and attracting more and more big names month after month
Much appreciated
Brilliant interview, didn’t want it to end 👍🏻
Jay is great. He has the legs and with a few more years experience racing at the top level he will get some more consistent results.
Fascinating listening to two really bright guys analysing the sport I've loved for over 50 years,and realising I know bugger all about it.Fantastic channel,every success going forward,thank you.
Thank you
He’s reflective, observant, well-spoken. Seems like a good guy
I see interviews like this and think what a good example, these riders are not in fact taking drugs.
Let’s hope not
A lot like Levi Leipheimer, Tyler Hamilton and Dave Zebriskie...all reflective, observant and well-spoken😅 Those traits have nothing to do with the drugs these guys take.
@@veganpotterthevegan Tyler well spoken? Hmmm
@@paulsolon6229 yes, he's extremely friendly and always has been.
@@veganpotterthevegan we disagree on how articulate are the riders you mention. and agree that speaking performance is unrelated to drug taking, in fact better speakers may be better at hiding facts and thus at taking drugs
@paulsolon6229 none of these guys are scientists. They're simply told how to avoid testing positive(obviously Tyler wasn't too successful with that) and listen. And being articulate has nothing to do with their ability to listen to doctors about what and when to take whatever they were taking at a given time.
*I've spoken quite a bit to all 3 of the guys I mentioned. They're definitely well spoken, albeit Dave is very odd.
Fantastic podcast. It was a pleasure to watch Jay Vine talk about cycling. Such a positive and intelligent person 👍
I'm not even worthy to watch this interview. Excellent content and quality.
Very insightful! Loved the interview, thanks
Thank you so much for the great content. Jay wasn't on my radar that much, but what a great guy! Last thing is I just do not believe one of the best riders in the world would not pedal for three weeks with a broken wrist, knowing only limited time is available for probably his A-goal this year. Totally get it that your body needs to recover, but with his CTL even easy riding on a trainer will probably not harm his recovery.
I'm sure Pogi was on the turbo trainer during those weeks but that's very different from training. It might not impact his recovery but you won't make serious gains from the training when recovering from illness or injury. The best you could hope for would be to maintain some what you have.
As an example the Norwegian national cross country ski team won't take an athlete to an altitude camp if they have so much as a sniffle because that athlete simply won't make the desired adaptations so it's just a waste of time and money. The same goes for broken bones. The body puts its energy into healing over increasing fitness.
I think that's what Jay is getting at. Sure he was technically sitting on a bike turning the pedals but he wasn't really "on the bike"
Cyclist Jay Vine stands out for his exceptional skills and dedication. With an unwavering passion for cycling, he consistently delivers outstanding performances. His commitment to rigorous training allows him to excel in various terrains and conditions. Jay's strategic mindset, combined with his strong physical abilities, enables him to make tactical decisions that often lead to victory. His humility and sportsmanship also make him a respected figure in the cycling community. Jay Vine's remarkable achievements and continuous growth showcase his potential to become a dominant force in the world of cycling for years to come.
He needs to work on positioning, bunch riding and not crashing. He might be physically on a top 40 level climbing, but he needs to work on his bike handeling.
Wow. Mind blowingly good interview and incredible honesty from Jay. Thats the best 50 interview if watched in years.
I would buy an R5 based on Sepp Kuss’ performance and riding style. Jonas and Primoz are otherworldly 😅
Would have been nice to have more information about his training plan, what level of intensity and how many hours for each levels. The title seems to say that we are going to hear about his training program or related subjects, when Jay only mentioned reducing his training hours per week. I'm still hungry for the details :)
great show, really enjoyed it and have a new found respect for Jay Vine
He, he, easy to see why Jay's friends with LR! And he did a great job of not saying straight up that what UAE needs to improve is overall strategy and daily tactics in GTs, i.e. ride like TJV does. Will be interesting to see if they try that with the team they've got for 2024 and become the team to beat.
Also, I wonder why you seemed surprised when Jay explained how TJV rode to wear down Pogi. They started to plan that approach in late 2021 and have implemented it very successfully in the TdF for two years running now. They did the same in the recent Vuelta except the opponents in that race were easier to wear down.
I enjoyed that, Jay has a new fan!
Great Interview. Good questions, and honest and smart answers.
44:15 - This Tadej spot in the podcast is great from Jay
Quality channel…! Thank you for these.
Just subscribed 🤘🏼
Welcome
Woo… UAE were doing opposite. Pogi opted out from the prize money…that is a good motivation for his helpers and teammates.
Keep up the great work Anthony
Thanks Jordan
Ah yes! Love Jay Vine!!
Jay always shares good stuff
super interesting pod - you asked very good questions
What a really Gr8 Australian made nice level headed guy 👦
Incredibly down 2 earth 🌎.
This is the first time i'm watching your videos and after 1 minutes I have goosebumps all over the place, seems like I might like this content.
^ When you buy comments
@@notreally2406 not really ;-)
Thanks for the great and interesting podcast. Can you bring up the topic of nutrition for gluten-free athletes, and especially for celiacs who want to train regularly, with an emphasis on endurance athletes who need to get food on the go or take everything from home.
Doesn’t specially talk gluten free but this is worth a watch th-cam.com/video/Thsq9kq18os/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dh7yGAIv6vLWHzsB
Si Richardson on GCN is celiac and has mentioned it on at least one video I've seen; might be worth checking their back catalog, or else putting in a request for a video.....
I love so much about the kind of rider that Jay is, especially the way he includes his wife, Bri as part of the team. One of the things I struggle with, though, is how data driven he is, I think we are losing the ability to understand and trust the sensations of our body.
Legend 🔥👏👏
Thank you my friend. Love your content
New to your Channel. Outstanding work.
Thanks and welcome
what's the outro song? loved this episode btw
"it all exists in their own ecosystem" is not really an argument for AI, but a sign that simple digitisation by far isn't where it could be yet. You don't need chatGPT for basic correlation.
I feel like there are so many applications where non-machine-learning-adjacent people don't realize you don't solve bad data with AI, quite the opposite actually
I really hope every rider is aware if an employer, even if it’s a cycling team, hire a psychologist to work with you it’s most likely the employer has full access to every conversation, I’d be very wary for privacy reasons
Rohan Dennis has mentioned this before. Pretty sure he said he basically lied to the sports psychologist or held a lot back because he didn't trust the confidentiality
Yes. This has been a huge problem in Australia. Significant confidentiality problems.
Just don’t talk to them.
Incredibly unprofessional.
regarding the pog tdf 2023 - Jonas demolished pogacar on stage 5 which is way before fatigue sets in
Yes
Danes still think Jonas is natural 😂
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444no, of course we don’t. We think they are all doped… very much including Pogacar, the Yates twins, G, Eeeeevenepoel, Soler, Ayuso - and Jay Vine.
Lol at the nonsense about AI, where the hell did that nonsense come from 😂 Glad to see Jay comprehensively slap that one down 😁 AI zealots in the same camp as bitcoin zealots for me - an overhyped circle-jerk
19:15... freudian slip quickly recovered?!!?!?!
Man thanks for the comment. Just listening is hilarious😂
Only 20h of training a week? Means lots of freetime.
I think Tadej may have done too much work trying to comeback from the injury and be ready for the TDF. Just my amateur opinion
It was not a couple of days. It was 3 weeks..
@@Eirikkinserdal I think he tried to make up for that lost time(and the stress of that) and that when combined with his classics season simply caught up to him and left him fatigued/slightly over trained
@@johnnycab8986 I am also looking at how he lost time on the 2 other stages, he did not seem quite like his normal self.
simple science hear, u need 3 times as much food intake when u break a bone and remember he started the race with a broken bone still healing and doing what he did for 2 weeks, that's more alien stuff and a super human ability.@@johnnycab8986
As Jay says here, it's not rocket science. Jumbo-Visma worked out how to wear him down over three weeks, just enough for him to not win the TdF. Helped by his own explanation of his weakness on G's podcast in late 2021. They planned accordingly and have successfully implemented their plans two years in a row now. They did the same with their opponents in the most recent Vuelta, except they were a lot easier to wear down.
Awesome! Thank you! Bread legs! 🤣
Skynet kill list....LOL
How do they adjust testosterone levels? I know how I adjust mine lol
The term for those individuals would be ignorami! My own plural version of ignoramus. You'd have to work hard to spread that illness.
The constant ads to subscribe are annoying AF
noted. i'll turn them down in the next poddy.
The host completely misunderstands IQ (and AI).
Jay Vine what an example of overrated Ozzie bs
Look man cycling is a failed sport, all of these guys are doping now due to the passport....plus a lot of them are using motors like MVP. Total bullshiit