The Internet is Wrong - RX8 Reliability Testing
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- 1 year of no mechanical sympathy, and you would think my RX8 would have gone thru 10 engines by now. turns out these cars are better than the internet said
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$900 "Dead" RX8. $3000 in my rebuild with new rotor housings. Total $3900 reliable daily driver and fun car. Priceless!
EPIC!!!
Nice 👍😁
Yo I'm 15 and worked my summer away for a Mazda rx8 could you send your build? Jw
@@nonclaw_kellamke7418 have fun rebuilding rotaries
How did a shed rebuild end up running $3000
"Doesn't have enough power, can't have fun in it" Say that to miata guys lmao.
The same people that say that don’t realize the NC Miata is on the same chassis as the RX8 😂
It's the with 2nd gen smart cars, a lot of people sleep on them but the brabus style turbo model makes 156 horsepower and only weighs 885 kilograms
@@duanJ_aka_wfoundry Yep. The same as the Suzuki Swift too. The sport has 140hp from a 1.4L turbo I4, weighs only like 800-900 ish kg.
The base had 90hp from a 1.2 I4, weighing I think 800-900 ish too.
Power to weight is so important.
or del slow guys
@@xenokyomi yeah they are pretty cool too
I've been dailying RX8s for the better part of 14 years. As long as you take care of them and drive em like you stole them they will take care of you.
THIS! ALL OF THIS!
@Willham since it's a 4 door, that contributes to lowering the payments. Also, you can say it has a 0 cylinder engine to drop it even further 😏😉
For example, it would run me like $80-$90/mo for full coverage when I put it has a 0 cylinder engine
@@ischwhit6747 wait is that legal hahahaha
@Willham cheap, I pay $70 for full coverage.
@@ischwhit6747where did you get insured
You just made me burst out loud with laughter when you said about downshifting to 3rd with your finger ready to turn off ac to maximize power. I love your rotary content!
I only use my ac to keep it lubricated. I never use it.
My own RX8 is almost 20 years old and I've owned it for almost all of that time. Has never had any reliability issue. If it ever does, the car owes me nothing and I'll get it fixed.
I’ve had my rx8 for over 8 years, put over 155k miles on it in my ownership(bought with 60k, now has 215k miles), rebuilt the engine at 193k because the car was auto and I had it out to do a manual swap. Still ran great too. Only car I’ve ever owned that’s never seen a tow truck.
How much was it to do a manual swap. I’m thinking of doing the same on mine when it needs a rebuild
@@chriatianvazquez it was about $1500 in parts, not including labor as I did it all myself. I would probably charge someone in the ballpark of $1500 to do the swap as well
My SA was a model of reliability, for real. Dad bought new in 1978, became mine in 1998, put in over 300k with no rust (cali) and only one rebuild.
This comment made me happy
SAs and FBs were amazingly reliable and great engines especially for the time
I had my last track day of the year on Monday. I was going full send redline after redline every session. No cool down laps. And I remembered I should look at my Temps. Didn't even get passed 200 water/oil.
Started up every time. Drove it home.
Now i just need tires that grip so I won't slide around so much.
Hey! Your not supposed to rev it before shut-off to prevent flooding. Your supposed to rev it to remember how long your day is to miss those SWEET exhaust notes!
They get a bad reputation because a lot of people bought them new not really understanding them. Mines 138k gets 21mpg on the highway. Starts fine hot/cold after a new statter/coils/ tune up.
Thanks for strengthening my commitment to my 2009. Since I bought it near new and although I'm spirted I'm not quite THAT spirited so it should last a good long time. I mentioned many videos ago needing to fix the leaky pinion seal. Got that done a couple weekends ago. Feels and sounds like I got the preload back right and no leak after one test drive. Unfortunately I did have some leak from the transmission tail seal even though I changed it as part of the project. I'm hoping it was just a little spill over because I changed that seal without draining the transmission. I'll find out when we take it out to Church this evening.
I bought mine for 800 and put a new motor and now has a 6 speed manual. It's just sitting at the moment but I'm so excited to get it out in the spring. I just want to make sure its good, before driving it again. The car is so much fun!
The radio fix is easy you take the faceplate off and adjust and clean the pins and align them gently or get a new junkyard radio and it plugs back in basically what happens is the pins get mushed up
From an older bloke down under, who loves his rx8 to death, this is the tits bra ;) They say they are under powered..... Compared to WHAT! exactly. love your work young man. Cheers for keeping the smile on my dial. I've said it before, it's way more fun to drive slow cars fast ;) The RX8 is not that slow! Don't know about you guys but we call them line lockers for standing burn outs :D
That looks like so much fun. For the last 7-8 years I daily drive an Rx-8 and this is something that I need to try one day. By the way nice camera angles.
Thanks Rad. Just another video to make me want to get my RX8 on the road sooner!
this makes me want an rx8 simply because its a TON newer than my vert and way less rust to deal with. the 6 spd makes it that much better too.
Love your channel. Showing a lot of what's missing in today's engines
I love my rx8, there is something irreplaceable with that car..fyi i had 3 rx8 sofar...first two had to sell them due to go back to my country, last one sold because my friend wants it so bad....and im still looking for the 4th one...set my eye on spirit R..but lets see ..
I really enjoyed this video, audio and commentary. Almost had me subscribe! I’m a 46 year old guy that loves all vehicles. Loved my RX8 that I owned.Love the sound that your makes when at 8k rpm!
I agree everyone that enjoys driving should purchase a slightly used RX8. so much fun! you will love it- promise.
Saying that the RX-8 is unreliable would imply that no matter how well you take care of it is not gonna last, thats not the case It's just high maintenance. My brother has an RX-8 Shinka and its his second RX-8 (first one he totaled drifting it), he says he will never own anything other than a rotary again and riding with him I kinda wanna get one myself. My theory as to why the RX-8 get so much hate and is seen as unreliable is because, statistically, 80% of people in the US don't actually service and maintain their vehicles like they are supposed to. Owning one does require an added degree of care and you really can't push things off if you want them to last. I currently have a 9th Gen Civic SI and a 6th gen Civic DX, but the RX-8 are fantastic and fun little cars and its definitely gonna be my next car when I am ready to buy another.
Another car that you can drive it that way and still no mechanical issues is a toyota altezza, the one with a 3s ge engine... you'll go around town redlining it, burn out etc... and still get wherever you're going
That was nice use of the e-brake
Dang now I want a second one for thrashing around in the grass. I've had mine for over a year now it's a great car. So many myths surrounding this car.
8:18 - remember that time for me. I am pausing it and going to drive mine 8.. I just need to go right now.
Might want to consider upgrading the starter motor to the 2kw version. Waaay faster cranking and starting
But it will "hide" compression loss for your hot starts..
A redline a day keeps the carbon away 🤙🏽
live near Montreal, Canada. Cold start comments always made me laugh. 4 seasoned my 2005 GT, would move it around in our parking and never sweat the restart either. Haters gonna hate
5:30 ish when you are talking about the check engine light, hitting that bump and turning off ac to pass a Prius? I was like “someone cloned my entire being and put it in an rx8 instead of my fiesta” 😂😂
honestly ive been looking at what to buy for my first car and the rx8 is on the list and now i think ima go with it after this video I know a lot of them might not last as many miles as other cars but I think it would be a good fun first car.
I know they've been unpopular in the past but I'd love one of those viewer pan able 360 vids in the next couple weeks. One of those sweet loops north of Lafayette would give me the feels.
yoooo keep this to yourself or prices will sky rocket lmao. I was actually about to buy an Rx-8 but stumbled upon another one of my bucket list cars, a mazdaspeed 6. i've had a mazdaspeed 3 before but always wanted a 6, pulled the trigger on that instead, but im probably going to find a clean body RX-8 8 with a blown motor for cheap and rebuild it.
love the classic check engine light lmao. As an rx8 owner i approve!
See the Phalanx Performance sticker... Ernie is a legend!
I got a 84 gsl se with working rear defrost. Surprised the hell out of me lol
Have you done a rats nest delete video on a fd yet? Ive looked around, cant find any. Im actually getting an fd imported from japan. Its going to cost around 30k$ imported and delivered. Has around 80k miles and some repairs done to the right fender, rear quarter panel, and door. The repair work was very good and it also has high compression numbers. Im new to the rotary scene but i enjoy working on engines and would love to get into this. Ive already watched hours of video and am feeling very confident!
thank you, i’ve been shopping around to buy a 2nd car and my best options for what i personally want are either out of my price range or some old shitty bmw i wouldn’t be able to get parts for. Now I know for sure what my next car is in 1-2 months from now. this isthe best rx8 ad of all time.
How is it? Have you bought one?
So I’m tryin to find a first car and I love these so much and I was wondering if it’s easy to get one and if it would be a good first car
I can do a stand still burn out on tarmac and my Rx8 has stock power. Just have to be real gentle with the brakes
Do you have any sort of upgraded starter motor? Just curious if you think it is worth upgrading from a factory starter motor to either an S2 or just some sort of 2.0 kW strength motor
I highly recommend upgrading to an S2 starter. It is worth the money.
When engine is cold you can definetly flood engine, somehow looks like fuel flush oil from side plates, plus fuel get's on spark plug. Easiest way to flood rx8 it to shut down cold and let her sit for a night.
I have no idea if with good engine and sparking system it would be possible to start it even then, but it is definetly possible to flood rx8 own 2.
One good rule to prevent flooding is a strong battery....on Rotary's... And lol 🤣 neighbors 😂...and I always respect a Man Who takes Care of his lawn....
And you know don't rev over 4000rpm until the rotary engine has reached full operating temperature. The engine's bi-metal construction isn't' fitting properly until it is warm. How do I know this, I have owned seven rotary cars since 1973 (stock and race -modified), and have easily driven over a million rotary miles on track and street. Cheers
Hows the petrol consumption on the car and any common problems? Considering buying my first one
1:18 I thought shutting the car off and right back on like that floods the engine? I’m looking into as manny videos I can because I’m thinking of getting one and they don’t look scary at all. I’m mainly wondering how common would a mechanic be that works on these as well as my main self taught maintenance?
I have a Rx8 in Australia love it!! Thanks for your video it's great
8:18, the tongue out is the best part of this video.
I can't wait to buy my first rotary next summer, been thinking about buying one for 2 years now
You ain't getting nuthing
@@kenderyalclemons7792 you're funny
Hey! Thanks for the vid. Just wanna know what temperature your coolant hits on average when you go hard on it? Do you use an aftermarket or stock radiator?
Bigger radiator. More ducting. On a 100 degree day. On the track I have seen over 230 degrees and then cooled it down. 265 oil Temps.
Typically on a 70-90 deg day it will stay below 220 and 240 ish oil Temps
Same, i have a high flow thermostat and radiator, it didn't make much difference, only a minor difference at idle. Air flow is the biggest dominator.
I see no higher than 220f as well when I am thrashing on it.
I wanna see a turbo rx8 build so bad just to prove people wrong about these motors... gsl se exhaust housings or some aggressive exhaust porting would do great with a turbo for this car. nice and easy 8~ psi would make it reliable-ish and very fun
My mechanic got a turbo rx8 and tracks it. gets better times than most cars there including vetts chargers other cars
The apex seals are too shallow for boost sadly, need to machine the rotors to fit older seals
Channels exist. The highest boost the engine can handle reliably is 11-12 psi. Quite a few have accomplished this feat.
@@sofakingdom3076 while they do exist, AND make fantastic power... the seals were built for naturally aspirated use at high rpm. Sadly boost makes them wear out very quickly.
I want mine to be reliable... had a track day two days ago (1st Nov '22) and after three laps of Sandown (Melbourne, Australia) oil came into the intake and caused a smoke screen... so I was DNF'd... Should the stock ventilation system do this or should I add a catch can or something??? (Engine rebuilt 5000km ago, eveything in the engine bay is completely stock, including the crankcase ventilation system... Any thoughts?
Mine has a Filter on the oil fill neck tube, and I have a cap on the respective recirculation port on the intake tube. It was like that when I bought it, but I don't know of that to be a common thing. My Bridgeport 12a would spit some oil out the crankcase vent when I was Racing rally, but not an excessive amount, it wasn't recirculated so I never saw smoke though.
i have a empty 5 acers of land i was gonna build a little drift track on, but now seeing grass is slippery i might just slide around freestyle..
0:38 imagine waking up and having to ask yourself "oh does my car start"
lmao
What's the compression on that junkyard engine? I went back and watched all the videos of you getting it running and I don't recall you mentioning that?
it was 90 psi on all faces when I installed it. Im going to bet that its "slow to start" characteristics is due to spark plugs and coils. I haven't changed the coils ever, and its due for plugs and an oil change.
Nice love it did a compression test on my used $500 engine that is really fast keeps up with S2000 on the track on the straightaway however compression tester shows a high of 83 PSI on the rear and a high of 73 on the front.. yikes 😬 the weird part is it has zero hot starts or other odd issues and it runs way better than my last engine that had similar compression
@@RADPotential pretty much. Did you upgraded the starter?
Nope, its still an 04 starter. not the high torque model.
My rx8 just blew its side seals (my fault, over revved and missed gear on track) but now I have an excuse to pull it apart and bridgeport it lol.
And what were the exact steps to keeping this thing running??
Remove Catalytic Convertor, spark plugs, oil change, bigger radiator/improve the front end ducting, Remove Lower intake manifold and clean SSV, Butterfly, and Aux Port Valves. Drive the wheels off of it.
Do you premix your fuel?
I own a 2004 rx8 manual recently put it on the road after sitting around for 9 years. Changed all fluids and after driving for 30 minutes or so I smell a burning smell....is that normal? Also the engine was rebuilt at 77k and it has 84k now
I got a 09 but i still want a sohnn adapter tho
I daily a Rx8 first gen and as a rx8 dude I love this video Lmao
You just got to power brake it .... I can do fatty sitting burnouts I usually keep it in first but I bet I could grab second. I do have stock brake pads but I can't seeing that being that big of an issue
O trust me I know the burnout walk it out on the brakes. It won't do it with these pads. Probabaly with stocks. But these are way too bitey
So I noticed you were putting 87 octane in...how are you not having detonation issues? Different tune or an octane booster?
Engine is only 10-1 compression. I havent ever had an issue on the street. I run 93 at the track.
The only thing that keep me away for daily driven my Rx8 is petrol ⛽️ pricing here in fucking Europe. 2.00 euros for one litre..😢😢for 1 gallon approximately about 8 dollars😭
Shew!!! Dang that's crazy!
good upload
Dang...really miss my 2010 RX-8 GT...declared totaled by my insurance from body damage after an accident back in 2019, but completely drivable....I was at 120k miles too original engine...now I drive a 2015 Civic Si Coupe, not bad...but its not an RX-8
Okay.
Seriously asking . I just got one and two alternators have died on me. They were both from a junk yard mind you.
Anyone here have a Bosch one?
Or any recommendations that are better than OE+? Thanks
Wouldn't be a drive to work in an RX8 if you didn't stop at the gas station I don't care if you live 5 minutes from your house you're still putting gas in it
haha I do the tongue thing when im focusing too
got to start the radio like the Doomslayer would.
My only experience with the rx8 is my friends little brother had one and still has one it was his first car and the last time I saw it I helped him push it to his mom's house it was like 3 or 4 blocks
Youre a fucking madman. I love it. I kinda wanna buy an rx8 now
87 octane fuel??
What are the wheels?
I like this guy. He's cool.
I've had mine for going on 9 years and it still starts every time! Except for the one time I flooded it but that was my fault 😔 Sohn adapter, upgraded ignition, aem intake, catless midpipe, bilstein coilovers, enkei 18x9.5 wheels, BFG sport comp 2 tires, short throw shifter and fucking send it!
What kind of mistake did you do when you flooded the 8?
@@highwaycultureracingchannel I shut it off in the middle of winter without letting it warm up first.
“Down shift to 3ed your hand is in the right spot to turn and A/C off and make all the power” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man they 100% can do standstills in the dry, you're just too heavy on the brake pedal, I do them everytime I go for a drive lol.
I think its my track brake pads being too grippy.
Shitty tires?
Mazda should of hired you, considering selling my NB now.
well , my friend has 3 of em , 2 of em K swapped ,didnt really had a problem since lol
It's 100% got that standing burnout! Just need less brake than you think 🤣
you might be down some power if not, mine is more than happy!
I can talk crap about just about any car and any engine with one google search what im trying to say is stuff on the internet is insanely over exaugurated
i keep getting your videos reccomended i guess youtube wants me to get a rx8
Fuck i want one for trackdays
It's because most of these people that have sob stories with the Rx8 drive them like a piston engine car. The rotary isn't for everyone...it's absolutely necessary to flog the hell out of it like an S&M freak almost daily. The harder you drive it, the more it likes it. This is counterintuitive for most people since they're conditioned to baby a car engine and rip it maybe once in a while. I had a 1986 GXL and sure it had it's minor quirks, but had almost 300k miles on the original engine and seals, still had almost perfect compression. It did NOT have an easy life. I was the 7th owner and everyone before me drove it HARD. I sure miss that car even though it always smelled like a mixture of exhaust and fuel lol. Wish I could get an RX8 someday
Like 1000 love your content man keep it up
Dude my rx8 doe’s wicked stand still skids. You gotta push the traction control button off. Then boom two wheels all day easy as bro 🤛 Churr.
It's not that the RX8 or the rotary is unreliable it's that most people including mechanics that aren't familiar with the engine and can't conceive how to diagnose it. Mazda doesn't really put any money into factory training rotary mechanics also. About 12/13 years ago when I own two I researched Mazda factory certified rotary technicians and there was two of them in the entire country and both of them were in Southern California.
Love this fucking car, my apex seals just went out :(
wait i thought it took premium gas why u puttin in regular
someone please explain to my why this car should flud if you turn it of without revving it first
It floods when cold cuz the choke is on and if you turn it off cold the choke stays on and more fuel gets dumped in
Man gonna by one now
i 'm only scared about the consumption of the rotary engine, nothing else
Haha, good stuff!
if my check engine lights on maybe ill pop the hood and make sure the engine still there LOL
I say the same thing about my rusty civic lmao.
Don't own and not in the market for an rx8 but that was a good vid. Lol
Thanks Man!
So what you're saying is I need to sell my ND and pick up an RX8 🤔
Rx8 have better chasis to begin... and it will have enough space in engine bay for engine swap
I think the suggestion is the rx8 is so obtainable for such few dollars that you'd be crazy not to get 1. Keep it as your 2nd car, jeez park it on the street if you have to. The 9k redline will be so addictive you may never get back in that miata!
@@ADudesRotary maybe, but the roof goes down and not my fuel gauge 😛
Slightly off topic, Just realized where you are. I use to live off Moore's lane at the top of the hill about 15 years ago. Your RX-8 may have brought me home once or twice when I was a bit too Intoxicated to drive myself...or my DSM was broken.. 🤣 Crazy how much that intersection has changed.
How much is a rebuilt for and rx-8 engine 🤔
I have one for $5000...red light runner crashed in to me on Halloween
It cost me $5000 to fully rebuild and rotors cleared and machined for Atkins apex seals..
416 miles put on car and then crash ...
@@eternalsouljah7364 For just a little more i am surprised people don't get a brand new engine. A rebuilt engine by definition won't last as long.
You can run 87 in these?!
11:52 why u have fbs graveyard???
Rx7s are my jam.. rx8 is just a track missile for me haha