Planetside 2's Sunderer Update is Here...

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  • Planetside 2's latest update is finally here... And man, it's safe to say that this was NOT a good one.
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  • @ChopSueyyy
    @ChopSueyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    What they tried to do: Buff sunderer for more reliable spawns
    What they actually did: Combine the harassers speed while about tripling the sunderers health for combat purposes
    Would it have been too hard to just give all existing sundy garages some sort of spawn shield to protect deployed sunderers from hillsniping MBT´s/Lightnings like they ALREADY DID on Oshur?

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Sorry, that sounds like it makes sense. We don’t do that here apparently.

    • @BAGELMENSK
      @BAGELMENSK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Adding a lot of generators like that may indeed have been too hard idk.

    • @michaelangelo221
      @michaelangelo221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      you summond it up pretty good! i agree its to overpowered, its now a harasser/prowler thingy, like why now pull a tank if the sunderer is the same or stronger when deployed. besides, i hate you when you kill me bro :))) love you still as you are a great player. all the best Michael aka NC Iamfucvkingblue ;)

  • @fish5130
    @fish5130 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    this game needs a server merge again so bad

  • @HomicideJack187
    @HomicideJack187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    CAMI POSTING A PLANETSIDE VIDEO? This is a strange summer indeed.

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Desperate times call for desperate measures

    • @JD96893
      @JD96893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or a strange winter for some.

  • @UltraFlea
    @UltraFlea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Planetside is already one of the toughest games to balance and having brand new devs in place who haven't had atleast 100 hours in game to get good feel for all aspects of the game is gonna mean bad things especially if they dont have a finger on the community advice

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Doesn’t excuse the update coming out in such a bad state. It really doesn’t take a lot to understand that giving a vehicle harasser-level movement with insane levels of HP on top of that will be bad.

    • @AnAmericanDodo
      @AnAmericanDodo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As an old player, I feel like the general problem with the game has been updates just making it easier for people to screw up or making poor decisions and not get punished for it. The game was frankly best in the first 6 months of its release.

  • @xaq8769
    @xaq8769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    "Support vehicle" which is tanky than an actual tanks and can go head to head with colossi if played right.
    Harassers outspeed tanks and now we see sundies chasing those harassers with maniacal laughter behind the wheel

  • @Austin03690
    @Austin03690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I really don't have much good to say here, they wanted to improve the Sundie's ability to act as a spawnpoint; and in a way, the changes they made could be viewed as such but they completely neglected the overall view of what these changes would do to the Sundie's offensive capabilities. Thus, the ridiculous gameplay we see in the background where no vehicle, land or air, can stand up to it. Making the Sundie the number one go to land vehicle doesn't improve its ability to act as a spawn point unless you consider that there are just going to be a shit ton more of them. As you said, this update just feels very out of touch.

  • @rradt2001
    @rradt2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I really genuinely hope that this is just growing pains from having a new development team working on the game, they have some good ideas that are executed very poorly. And some ideas that are baffling, but if they QUICKLY and CLEARLY say "we fucked up, we will be balancing this soon" then some of my hope will return.

  • @RBsRealm
    @RBsRealm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Remove the mobility buffs.
    And make it so the health printer can only activate when deployed.
    That solves most of the issues.

  • @norman4588
    @norman4588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The Sunderer is now broken. It cannot be considered a "support vehicle" because it can hold AP rounds in numerous shots.
    When a Main Battle Tank shoots AP rounds at a deployed Sunderer, which fires back, the Sunderer wins. Additionally, Sunderers are commonly spotted pursuing Harasser on the battlefield.

    • @LoneWolf-fi3nk
      @LoneWolf-fi3nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro even undeployed the Sundy still wins.

  • @muhammadalialhamid2965
    @muhammadalialhamid2965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Unpopular opinion, the sundie survival ability when deployed is highly increased this is obvious in small to medium size battles lone wolfs can't take ur sundie with ease, even lighting and mbt will need more time to take it out, even in the big fights they can hold their own if enough support is provided.
    The issue is not with thier new abilities a sundie should be fast and survivalable but it shouldn't have the types of guns and number our sundies have, a good approach to this problem would be nerfing the sundie guns maybe numbers to lessen it's combat ability.
    As a final thought, I know you hate what this game is now but please be a little positive the community is already dwindling in numbers

    • @yautl1
      @yautl1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Counterpoint, you need like 5x as many people as the sunderer's empire has to effectively kill one now. Fights are harder to preemptively kill, yes, but it also makes fights near impossible to kill even when they reasonably should be ending because it takes multiple people to kill one *even when it's not actively being defended,* and god help you if there are actually people to gun it.

  • @JH-pe3ro
    @JH-pe3ro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been away from PS2 for a minute. Downloading this update. I watched the video, then gave it some time to sink in. And I think the update is worthy of some praise because they're doing something valuable for their own learning and for any new players, which the game does get even at this late date: Buffing the spawn bus past every other vehicle in nearly every respect is a soft reset to both the spawns and vehicle game. This is a classic MMO move to obsolete the old toys and start introducing new ones. It's not a complete reset because they didn't address other spawn options(and that is worthy of a cautionary note) but it sets things back near to parity: new account, nobody's on but you and your friends, Sundy vs Sundy basically still works and allows engagement with other parts of the game. The game needs that entry level playability to continue to get 96+ fights. It doesn't need to do much of anything for 10,000-hour diehards who know every possible vehicle matchup and how to play it; those players actually have a need to start fresh too.
    Most spawn loss from "tanks on hills" just reflects player disinterest in acknowledging the spawns game, not a literal weakness in the Sunderer. They have limited time in their session and the game has infinite things to grind that will not be progressed by defending the spawn: it can be addressed by automating away more aspects of spawning(done very early on in PS2 with the hardspawn retrofitting) or by presenting more opportunities to contribute to spawns(which, running a battle bus does do, even if it's a transient thing).

    • @needsmore64
      @needsmore64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem of tanks on hills sniping spawns needed to be fixed by buffing sundies when deployed. Instead, they made them unmatched anti armor machines while moving which destroyed the vehicle balance and didn't do anything to improve their survivability as a spawnpoint.

  • @Cifer77
    @Cifer77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Magic School Bus? Back in my day we called it a Bang Bus

    • @winrar42
      @winrar42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bang Bus is 2 engies, 10 heavies with AA lockon and dumbfire rockets. Bus running two basis, racer, fire supp.

  • @kristianfernbratt2480
    @kristianfernbratt2480 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    aND THIS IS WHY EVERYONE THAT DEVELOPS GAMES SHOULD PLAY THE GAME TO FIND THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT.

    • @dierdred_the_gray
      @dierdred_the_gray 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didnt make a difference while Wrel was in charge of the game. He made some of the most brainless changes to the game that made vanu literally the faction like this sunderer. Wrels balance form was nerf everyone but vanu

    • @nixpardus3575
      @nixpardus3575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dierdred_the_gray yeah i always found that funny since vanu was already one of the most OP factions in certain areas and the main reason they kept losing is cause TR and NC would tag team them in group fights

    • @dierdred_the_gray
      @dierdred_the_gray 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nixpardus3575 Yup, They in general have no bullet drop, The most mobile MBT, The best anti horde weapons, Their guns have the slowest COF bloom, Their recoil is on par with TR recoil. They literally have to be tag teamed to be beaten in an alert.
      and then wrel continued to buff them and make them stronger and stronger.

    • @ashfield4313
      @ashfield4313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dierdred_the_gray 1. Bullet drop was negligible in the vast majority of the game besides sniper rifles and the Railjack was and probably still is the indisputable best dedicated sniper used by sniper mains. 2. Vanu weapons also had mediocre to abysmal stat spreads on the vast majority of the armament with the "viable" weapons being roughly 5 across the entire VS arsenal - which is why the good Vanu players would play with majority NS loadouts when not rocking the Orion or Betelgeuse. 3. The reason the VS had to be tag teamed was because the vast majority of 1v1 sweats consolidated under competent macro play which meant the VS on average were more skilled and more organized than the larger factions. These three points were backed up with stats back when stat tracking actually meant something and then fallback argument was "Well you take the game too seriously lol imagine"

  • @eduardoborges506
    @eduardoborges506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of the worst updates i ever seen hit planetside2. Game became sundy ball Vs Sundy ball. Auto repair stations, auto refill stations. No infantry supporting the vehicles, since there is no need for them, its just spam vs spam. Sundy went from a support vehicle to a MBT. What the devs were thinking i have no idea.

  • @soldierhobbes1182
    @soldierhobbes1182 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The age of The Tanker is over. The time of The Bus Driver has come!

    • @TheHuffur
      @TheHuffur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chimera pretty good now though, either swap into a seat as a HA with Punisher or bring one, two etc of them with you.
      "The one trick Sunderer mains dont want you to know!" type of clickbaity thing that is actually 100% true.

  • @CJICantLie
    @CJICantLie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    During primetime, there are certainly Sundie columns rolling around wrecking everything, but during the slower times, with the shields, we can now have a line of sundies deployed and not need to worry about a C4 fairy or random tank taking it out instantly while we are away from it for a second. It has helped with keeping the spawn points active, which doesn't fit in with your critique.
    I think a simple fix to the bigger issues would be to only allow the repair skill to be active while deployed.
    Almost everything else is fine. Yes, the speed and agility is a bit, odd, to say the least, but being able to climb a hill and deploy a sundie in a more protected spot on the side of a base is valuable.

    • @olliknecks
      @olliknecks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can still take them out instantly with vehicle mines 😭

    • @winrar42
      @winrar42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with this

    • @TheHuffur
      @TheHuffur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@olliknecks The shield is also a bubble shield, does nothing if you simply walk inside it and place C4 on the Sundy or as you already said, drop some mines.

    • @partydemon2849
      @partydemon2849 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheHuffur bingo, which in my case kinda neglects the point of the shield a little

    • @TheHuffur
      @TheHuffur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@partydemon2849 A little but at the same time the shield is in the Utility slot so it is only competing with Stealth and PD.
      For a spawn bus it makes much more sense to pick the shield over PD and well, Stealth is Stealth, only useful in small fights or until someone bothers to look where all the people are coming from.
      So Spawn bus can have both the Shield and Enhanced Plating to make it take less damage from C4/mines.. though honestly not sure how much good the 30% reduction will do against mines considering Mine Guard used to give like -70% or something like that!
      I am hoping that as the new devs get some more time and feedback they will be tweaking these to make more sense.

  • @littletweeter1327
    @littletweeter1327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    the state of ps2 makes me sad

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You and me both mate.

  • @Erendil1453
    @Erendil1453 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nanite Armor Sundies are having a very similar negative impact to that of BFRs in Planetside 1.
    Things PS1 BFRs and Nanite Armor Sundies have in common:
    - They're the most powerful vehicle on the battlefield
    - They have constantly regenerating armor/shield that lets them ignore the fire from a single Tank
    - They can be readily killed if alone, but they roam in packs. Even in small numbers they dominate
    - The only way to counter a group of them is by pulling a group of your own
    - They've effectively invalidated/replaced every other combat vehicle. There's no reason to pull any other vehicle
    - They're fun for those who enjoy that particular vehicle at the expense of all other similar playstyles
    - They're EVERYWHERE

    • @carlodagunz
      @carlodagunz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually, it's been my experience that heavy assaults with decimators do plenty enough DPS to counteract nanite armor, but you can also completely shut down nanite armor with anything that can apply havok to sunderers.

  • @Geekknight777
    @Geekknight777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do you still play on Connery?

  • @AndraxisCode
    @AndraxisCode 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sunderers are extremely underpowered as a spawn point during low pop hours. I would suggest something like having a station that you plug a sunderer into to essentially turn a sunderer garage into a safe area for the faction that is plugged into the station. In order for defending factions to breach these spawn areas they would need to blow up a terminal, similar to a search and destroy style of play. This could provide a useful tool to keep fights more engaging while also keeping the sunderer itself as it is.

  • @TheGreySpectrum
    @TheGreySpectrum หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I played primarily as a tanker, and mostly before CAI happened. They kinda destroyed the fundamental mechanics of vehicle gameplay, so I was out, but I digress. Sunderers certainly sound like they've got too much going on in their favor currently but I remember battle sundies pretty much always being an absolute menace, so I can't help but feel like this is a combination of some buffs, an update with their name on it, and the resultant fixation on the sunderer (because everyone wants to mess with The New Thing) that has resulted in a proliferation of battle sundies. If you went up against a competent sunderer team back then, you were going to have a bad time, and if they caught you unaware then they'd melt you.
    Maybe compared to where they were just prior to this update it's a dramatic change, but I dunno. Compared to where I remember them being, it sounds like a well-intentioned adjustment made by a very green (and perhaps a bit naive) development team that was then heavily exploited by the community. As I recall it, you were- likely still are- a very infantry-centric player as well, so a part of me does also wonder if we've got different perspectives on this issue because, and I don't mean anything bad about this, I spent maybe 60-75% of my time in the seat of a Prowler over the course of about two years of constant and daily play (early 20's and unemployed) and you've been mostly infantry.

  • @tinycnyc
    @tinycnyc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This would be slightly better if the sunderer only had the Buffs while deployed.

  • @Mr_Bibbles
    @Mr_Bibbles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's sad what Planetside has turned into, but hey, it was fun back in the day.

  • @SANF0RD100
    @SANF0RD100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They could've called it "just wow: the update".

  • @CG-uo6wu
    @CG-uo6wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    havoc neades work really well the last few days ive been running punisher under barrel havoc grenades, and the suit which gives u extra grenades on the heavy taking even more havoc grenades. then adding a decimator to boot makes a real machine, if u have other armor support as back up it works, especially to keep the sunderer busy not firing in ur direction. peoples overconfidence in the new sundie becomes their weakness. by no means does this justify the sundies new power and i agree that it needs to change but for now i feel kind of obliged to share this weakness to counter this while it may last

    • @TheHuffur
      @TheHuffur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I played a bit a some days ago and it took me about a couple of seconds after checking out the different modules for the Sunderer to identify that "most people will be using this healing one for sure" and then maybe 3 seconds before the logical conclusion "I will equip the Punisher on a HA and be a PITA!".
      After that I rolled around with another random player in a slightly upgraded Chimera(basic secondary gun) of all things, decimating super overconfident Sunderer crews all over the place.
      Chimera passenger seats coming in very handy for a quick swap and dump a havoc UBGL on them.
      Pretty sure the Havoc effect prevents the big heal ability too just like it stops a MAX pressing their emergency repair button so its about the hardest counter possible against these Sunderers.
      Ofc the Sunderer repair is still massively overtuned and they need to heavily walk back the healing and probably make it only active when deployed + at least give it 1 second CD when taking damage. It should be something that heals you out of combat, not in the middle of it.
      The PD module that gives the turrets higher RoF also needs some checking, pretty sure most or all the turrets that shoot bullets still have around 400m range making the reduced range not have much of a impact on it(Bulldog shells only lasts for like 3 seconds before they poof out of existence though!).

  • @godgaveyouhands2848
    @godgaveyouhands2848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    7:09 pay attention to the vehicle health

    • @Maegnas99
      @Maegnas99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was just about to say this. Holy crap that is an absurd amount of healing!

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s wild.

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Sunderer update tells me that this game is at the event horizon and is never coming back :(

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sadly feels like the case my friend.

  • @SkylarktheDragon
    @SkylarktheDragon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thing is, the new Studio Toadman started their planetside 2 stint wrll with bugfixes and small changes, supposdly but this update was also started and partially done by the old studio. So im just wondering if the update was the last gasp of old studio or Toadman made alot of these decisions.

  • @kaznika6584
    @kaznika6584 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Western game devs have collectively lost IQ points this past decade.

  • @mikebond3210
    @mikebond3210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the direction the update is taking also the devs talked about future sunderer balance update. They actually succeeded in making fights last longer right now its harder to take down deployed sundies
    Right now they should nerf :
    - Rival chassis to level 1 instead of lvl 3
    - Point Defense
    - Nanite Armor

  • @xendordawnburst9969
    @xendordawnburst9969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Admittedly, I haven't played for a few weeks, and even then I don't play often enough to get the full experience of the game! That being said, while I think most of the upgrades are positive, there is no reason for that repair upgrade! A Sunderer is primarily for transport and spawning! Adding a bubble shield makes sense, lowering the level for the cloak makes sense! But when a Sunderer is deployed it is likely surrounded by engineers or people willing to switch to engineer! It's nice that it can open the way for other vehicles, but it shouldn't be in the lead!

  • @thatchris1626
    @thatchris1626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This feels like an update made my people who don't know anything about the game they are working on

  • @agenttarian3672
    @agenttarian3672 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d be fine with this update honestly if the nanite armor and boosted speed was brought into line. Those seem like the only problem modules in an otherwise solid update to me

  • @oscarisnyrd13
    @oscarisnyrd13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a sundie main this hurts. Waited a decade gor something like this. Monkeys paw curls, and this is what we get. Had 12 good years with this game. Good while it lasted.

  • @HenniAllrond
    @HenniAllrond 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone: Sunderer OP Monster!
    Me as Heavy: Hey Sunderer!
    Come to me and eat my Havok Granates! 😂

  • @olivertroelsen8330
    @olivertroelsen8330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    an idea they should make is making a shield around the spawn point in bases where the enemy cant get in so you dont get hold in the base itself and maybe control your base a little better idk just an idea :3

  • @toridetherisingwind4135
    @toridetherisingwind4135 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Months later, honestly the sundy update has been okay. They aren't utterly broken anymore and can't roll over MBTs so easily. Fights have been more stable and that 1 light assault or AP lightning 1 hex away can't end the fight by solo killing every sundy.

  • @slipspectrum9253
    @slipspectrum9253 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You never experienced the might of the battle bus? Me and a buddy used to unleash hell on armor, air and infantry alike in our battle bus, completely alone. Just me on the bulldog or walker and him driving. Then came AMS and repair and the douche nozzle brigade in the battle bus trains and ruined it all. That game was so much fun once upon a time. F*cking Wrel…

  • @villentretenmerth11
    @villentretenmerth11 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2 months ago: 8:27
    ..buried any degree of confidence that I had in this game
    now:
    feesh

  • @goodvibestv5380
    @goodvibestv5380 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game is still miles ahead of battlefield and delta force hawk ops. I’ll stand by that to the death of the game. It needs way more support

  • @Markty07
    @Markty07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think sunderers should have increased cost as you bring more upgrades
    -Base sunderer with a single slot active : 200 nanites
    -two slots active : 350 nanites
    -three slots active : 500 nanites
    I like the new concept for the sunderers but they are too spammable for their power. I don't really care that they are strong, but they need to have cost according to their power

    • @LoneWolf-fi3nk
      @LoneWolf-fi3nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This sadly would just discourage you to upgrade vehicles

    • @Markty07
      @Markty07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LoneWolf-fi3nk Not entirely, I would love to pull juggernauts of sunderers once in a while, and requiring less nanites to pull regular sunderers while I don't have the upgrades yet is something I think new players would have like on every vehicles.

  • @truongthang-w4l
    @truongthang-w4l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi bro, may i ask where can i get N30 Trawler-S ? i cant find it in store equip

  • @antdx316
    @antdx316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new lifetime friendships that became from people dominating in this with each other before the patch is irreversible.

  • @anangrysalad8256
    @anangrysalad8256 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was excited for the deployables bit, liked the shield being away from the sunday to so people could defend it in a pinch. Shame about the rest.

  • @Helvexis1
    @Helvexis1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahh, as much as it is currently busted and needs a fix. It is GOOD to see the battlebus back in action, a Briggs specialty from waayy back
    .

  • @slidex3824
    @slidex3824 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, thinking of starting to playing planetside 2, any tips or guides i should follow?

    • @WhySoManyEason
      @WhySoManyEason 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Upgrade your medic heal and engineer repair then upgrade the skills of whichever class you fancy. Don't need to buy weapons coz the starting weapons is good enough unless you going for cqc infiltrator then u need to buy a decent SMG.

  • @joebutler9776
    @joebutler9776 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OK, I have enjoyed the sunderer update. There needs to be some balancing for sure but they moved in the right direction if a bit too far. I do note that the battles have been interesting and longer and requiring more cooperation.

  • @deadaces7949
    @deadaces7949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't agree more, it has fundementaly broken vehicle gameplay (even though it is kinda fun). I play mostly harasser gameplay, and this has made the harasser by far the weakest vehicle in the game. Not being able to outrun Magriders was annoying, but now we can't outrun sunderers too! The harasser deserves some love!

  • @needsmore64
    @needsmore64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This update makes me sympathize with wrel. Planetside developer is a cursed position

  • @EricLing64
    @EricLing64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they even bother to remove the no-deploy zones? That shit is absolutely pointless. Every fight ends quickly because they're always deployed in the exact same vulnerable places.

  • @steelblood4116
    @steelblood4116 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The biggest issue in the game is how easily spawn points are easily sniped" HARD disagree here. I can't play my main because it's on a dead server. I can't play this game whenever I want because you have to wait till a certain time for there to be enough people online. I mostly stopped playing this past month because last time every big fight I went to had hacker flying around in turrets sending tanks flying across the map. I do agree though they just keep making mistake after mistake, with this being one of them though. It's like the game is on life support and they are holding a pillow to it's face.
    Then when I made a post about these issues, the devs on the steam forums went through and made up warnings and deleted everything I had posted in the past couple days within a minute of each other.

  • @anthonyg113
    @anthonyg113 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hmmm I know its bad but it can be fixed with some value changes such as a reduction to speed of the bus and less rep speed. This feels like a slight case of TH-cam exaggeration for video entertainment (bad news sales).

  • @cassiusorjin
    @cassiusorjin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ms Frizzle wants some souls! Give em up!

    • @AchingScaphoid
      @AchingScaphoid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please let this be a normal field trip...

    • @TotallyNotDelta
      @TotallyNotDelta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That reference is why the sunderer in the video is using yellow camo.

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a ginger, I’m just complying with the Frizz’s orders. Fetching them souls.

  • @M_R.b
    @M_R.b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look man the heal and dps are the problems right now , and tbh they could buff the other vehicles and make sundy cost more nanites

  • @wolfheart2370
    @wolfheart2370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was deployed Sunderer survivability really that big od a deal? Most of the time i hear about it is during low pop time, but honestly if that's the case not much to do.
    My problem is before the Sunderer had decent utility and now it's a juggernaut

  • @revan1202
    @revan1202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10 years seems good enough. Take what we have learned and apply it to other devs or companies. There is a lot that could have been done differently or better, but time and resources are not possible.

  • @aciarduce
    @aciarduce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cami? Planetside?
    Cami making a video, about PLANETSIDE!!
    😭😭😭 I MISSED THIS!

  • @strikeforce1500
    @strikeforce1500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look, I wouldn't mind if this goofy aah thing was in PTS, an April fools thing for a weekend, or heck even as an alert event from time to time.
    When I saw Ciryus videos were he said he take on 3 Lightings+Reaver, yeah, that was just way too dumb.
    And I do agree with some changes (Rival Chasis lvl 3,my beloved it or shield dome), but now it's basically more of a 'combat truck' than a logistics truck.
    Which wouldn't be (entirely) bad if it was its own vehicle apart. But still is the main spawn/transport vehicle

  • @Planeswalker0
    @Planeswalker0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this video! I was very close to reinstalling, but now I am not going to bother :D Agree with your points totally.

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers mate, happy to have saved you some internet data 🤣

  • @Marsupilami81
    @Marsupilami81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, to be fair it is likely that many more Sundies are now present with the attackers and so spawnpoints wont run out. And while this current update is, lets say interesting, you forgot the previous update when they put the reworked sundy on the liveserver with insane rate of fire weapon that could instakill anything.

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As far as I’m aware, that was a bug and not intended. If anything, that’s even more of a comment on the team’s inexperience and mishandling of things at the moment.

  • @partydemon2849
    @partydemon2849 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The bubble shield sucks. At least the other version could tank 2 C-4, where all they have to do now is walk in the bubble and use C-4 to kill it. And the way they renamed/ did the slots feels a little confusing at times

  • @willykroll
    @willykroll 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this iut on playstation ps4 aswell?

  • @longonline3283
    @longonline3283 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He uses the phrase "out of touch" a lot. And ironically, that's exactly what Camikazi's review is.
    The game is insanely fun right now. Sunderers are strong but they can be brought down if you play smart

  • @nixpardus3575
    @nixpardus3575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro wtf is that healing??? 7:05 - 7:10 they actually go from near dead to almost full in 2 seconds

  • @hurrsia
    @hurrsia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they could have just given all sundies a bit more base speed and maneuvering, and then still add in the other slots.

  • @RumpleFoldSkin
    @RumpleFoldSkin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its a great time for anti tank mines as most sundy drivers cant slow down fast enough once they see them now.

  • @VCE4
    @VCE4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Update *was* successful in it's goal - Sunderers indeed became harder to kill and thus making infantry fights last longer. With such durability and popularity of Sundy even front-lines started to form, with back and forth combine arms pushes, instead of single Sundy on the hex being blown by LA and everyone redeploying away.
    The "problem" is a thrown away vehicle game meta with Sundy sitting on top. That is until the next hot-fix or whenever they roll out a nerf for bus's acceleration and passive repair while un-deployed. Other than those two - the update was successful.
    Update also wasn't tested properly and once again was rushed live because of production hell behind the stage in the studio.
    But you make it sound like it is now set in stone, pointing finger again and burying the game, instead of taking neutral objective position and let people try it for themselves.

  • @carlodagunz
    @carlodagunz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nanite armor's hard counter is Havok effect.

  • @debruynvince
    @debruynvince 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't think I'd be watching a planetside 2 vid today, but here we are

  • @tigeralbatros9432
    @tigeralbatros9432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah its busted right now. And I share the oppinion that the nanite armor is the culprit here and everything else seems to be somewhat ballanced around the Sundi beeing a reenforced spawn room.
    They need to change nanite armors regeneration while mobile and deployed as well as the inbuild firesuppresion this defensive slot offers.

  • @INTJ_PJ
    @INTJ_PJ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got back into the game too and the sunders are pretty cool, but I understand your viewpoints.

  • @ooothe2nd
    @ooothe2nd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just hope we get an actual alert rather the meltdowns… miss how many player it had when escalation dropped 😢

  • @Niekel10
    @Niekel10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Planetside 3 when?

    • @Garlan4
      @Garlan4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      never

    • @Drrolfski
      @Drrolfski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not commercially viable

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Never, I’m afraid.

    • @danielmaster911ify
      @danielmaster911ify 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It'll come out when AGI makes games. You ask it to make a likely projection of what a third game might have been and then tailor it to your preferences. Give it ten to fifteen years at most.

    • @Garlan4
      @Garlan4 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@danielmaster911ify at that point we will most likely be all dead in a Nuclear war

  • @RumpleFoldSkin
    @RumpleFoldSkin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You may not understand this change was made keeping in mind future max changes among other changes

  • @daltonbronto6013
    @daltonbronto6013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair the game needs a rework can only do the same thing for so long. Would like to see a revamp across the board

  • @DeathByRabbit
    @DeathByRabbit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unfortunate to see the game in this kind of state. I really miss Planetside. It was the only shooter where I felt like I could be shit at but still enjoy. Oh well. Maybe Planetside 3?

  • @milsimprodigy
    @milsimprodigy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shit, thank christ this update spent a total of *checks notes* 22 hours on the test server client or we might have a miss on our hands!

  • @TRyan3
    @TRyan3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you get the zero bounties too?

  • @WolfDarkrose
    @WolfDarkrose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    euro im guessing cause im on Connery USA WEST at 11 am pst there are less the 50 people in game playing ON A SUNDAY.... so literally either i give up my 2000 hour account and move to euro 150 ping or us east which is only lightly better at 90 to 100. anyone west coast or midwest are basically shit out of luck and every time combining both us servers gets steam the company running the game shifts.. this is fucking sad a games only running due to 2 regions out of 8 it has.. wtf man.

  • @justinpriem4725
    @justinpriem4725 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anybody knows if there is a PlanetSide 3 in plan? Or like any new planetside game?
    I loved this game sooooo much. I wish their would release a new one. With the same game mechanics. But a big new player base.

  • @sirtreedom2123
    @sirtreedom2123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This game is still alive?

    • @Infernus25
      @Infernus25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes very much so

    • @SANF0RD100
      @SANF0RD100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If 700 players worldwide is considered 'alive'

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SANF0RD100 for a multiplexer Battlefield like fps known for having thousands of players..... not really.

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Alive is a strong word to use. Life support is the best comparison I can give it.

    • @norman4588
      @norman4588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only during peak hour; otherwise, it's a ghost battlefield.

  • @Sonlirain
    @Sonlirain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No no, you see it's balanced.
    A tank only needs 2 players to operate at full capacity.
    A sundered needs 3.
    Therefore a sunderer should always win.

  • @Highlyskeptical
    @Highlyskeptical 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kingsnake meets the mongoose.

  • @paleopteryx
    @paleopteryx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I must apologize to Wrel. Now it is clear he was actually the smartest of the dev team, lol. At least he didn't manage to kill the game in a single update.

  • @younglingslayer6517
    @younglingslayer6517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toadman cooked but they can't feed anyone

  • @Angelo_Nicolson
    @Angelo_Nicolson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah the power these have is insane, almost killing the fun. Why even have tanks at this point.

  • @raptordoesyoutube107
    @raptordoesyoutube107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, I guess we are not getting that assault rifle video. Nor will I be returning to the game any time soon.

  • @Gandalf19ful
    @Gandalf19ful 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CAMI PS2 CONTENT NEEDS YOU BACK! NOBODY COMPARES I NEED MY NC PROPAGANDA !!!

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hate to break it to ya man, but the games direction holds no interest for me at the moment.

  • @Microtardz
    @Microtardz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't played this game seriously in a couple of years. And even back then sunderer death balls were a thing.
    Sunderers being tanky boys with group repair/re-ammo capabilities & 2 decent guns attached has always been kind of a problem in my opinion.
    Buffing that is a horrible mistake. I'm not surprised to see sundies become the defacto meta ground unit.
    What has needed to change for a **very** long time on many of the maps is base design/layout. There are just a lot of really crappy bases to attack and/or defend.

  • @travispenner3048
    @travispenner3048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s actually been a lot of fun. Sorry Vanguard boys.

  • @SanyaJe
    @SanyaJe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In steam In the discussion under the news about the update, I left a message that the update was done unprofessionally, as if the child had fulfilled all his wishes. My messages were deleted and a warning was issued. Way to go, to the bright future.

  • @Roamingfirebat
    @Roamingfirebat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been afraid to pick this game up again. Guess I’ll wait a little longer

  • @xSS4x
    @xSS4x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leave the sunderer like that and just rework all the other vehicles and improve them to make everything useful.

  • @username174
    @username174 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to me it feels like its one balance patch away from being a good update, but yeah in its current state this isn't great

  • @whowhowhowhowhowho8139
    @whowhowhowhowhowho8139 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They will fix it easy, whats the fuzz... Amnesia came back to point out a mistake, I don't buy you came back in Goodwill, someone rat it out to you be honest!

  • @BlakeAllen-t3g
    @BlakeAllen-t3g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If all you have is hateful words for the game why do you keep coming back? You ever think that you and Cmdr cyrious(don’t quote the spelling) are actively hurting the game by posting videos saying the game is in trouble, or the game is dying.

    • @milsimprodigy
      @milsimprodigy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry but there's nothing "hateful" here.

    • @BlakeAllen-t3g
      @BlakeAllen-t3g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@milsimprodigy I still get on this game daily and have a blast. Sure the busses right now are quite strong but as I’m an armor main and I bounce around each faction a well versed 2/2 mbt can still handle a crewed bus

    • @CAMIKAZE78
      @CAMIKAZE78  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's called critiquing. I've been following this game for years, and ultimately, I'm going to make videos about it when things go wrong and right. The game is actively hurting itself by releasing bad updates - I just make honest content about it mate.

  • @micheljavert5923
    @micheljavert5923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, no. They can sell it all they want, I'm not buying that anyone who worked on this actually believes they accomplished what they set out to do. What I will believe is that this is change for change's sake, likely to get people to come back to check out the new update/mechanics. And if that gets people to stick around to enjoy the new sundie dominance (maybe get some DBC cash to buy the new upgrades since we weren't refunded the certs for the old ones), then that's just a happy coincidence.

  • @theclowninghasbegun3442
    @theclowninghasbegun3442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just add a shield popping round only for mbts

  • @forgeheartgaming7858
    @forgeheartgaming7858 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At least you guys are still getting updates. The Playstation side of this game is barely alive. Prime time is the only time to play, because otherwise it's totally dead, and even then, I've never seen a 96+ battle since coming back to the game.

  • @GustavoMsTrashCan
    @GustavoMsTrashCan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats it guys, the Sunderer won the war.