@@MARTISTICTENDENCIES No, why? Edit: Original comment: I know you're probably just joking but for some reason I don't really like him... Frankie has my respects, haha.
As a 43 year old man, the mere fact that I understand and appreciate this crossover is a sad indictment of my poor life choices. Luckily, according to Alex, I didn't make those choices. Now, I fancy a Magnum.
@@psychonautical6587 I understand that. I just thought it was a bit funny given their dynamic in terms of nationality and history. I'm not English or Irish btw.
As a long time lover of philosophy, satire and stupidity, this was right up my street. How on earth did you get Alex to snigger? You obviously are a veery fuunny guy, Frankie!
Oh bless him. This is the sort of discussion me and mates used to have after one philosophy class and a couple of spliffs. We were 16 at the time and genuinely thought we were profound as all feck 🤣
When people say they love something ironically, it is because they feel shame about what they enjoy. Once Frankie has eliminated shame in all humanity, there will no longer be a need for ironic love.
@@Baulderstone1 Not really, i can find something funny and entertaining bcs it's so emberrassing that it loops back around to being enjoyable, but it's not good in the way it was ment to be. That's what ppl mean when they say they watch/listen to something ironically
The way he just randomly compares meeting Shakespeare with meeting Nelly Furtado’s choreographer & then just drops it like,”Yeah, exactly like that. No more explanation required.” 🤣🤣🤣💀
I love the dryness, that its almost unbereable ackward and then you always get some great food for thought along the way within the conversations. Really great, keep them coming, you're amazing Fran. (Acid House!🍋)
Type of guy who reads Nietzsche on the tube & definitely watched the matrix as a kid & then read that book in which Neo hides his key (or whatever it was) But also, he seems nice.
19:45 -Unless you're talking about the previous monarch, who in death as in life, I'm sure is looking down on us right now.. -Well, she could be lookin up at us... -😬
Just so cosmic skeptic knows, I have the same breakouts after not working out for a long time and it's actually related to internal bleeding from pushing yourself really hard 😅. You get these purple splotches. It's relatively uncommon. It definitely happens in beginners, but especially people returning to the gym that hadn't been in a long time as they tend to push themselves harder in those first couple sessions than most true beginners would.
I’ve never understood why people who don’t believe in free will view their ‘wants’ as separate from their identity. Why can’t my personality - what I take to be the ground of my identity - also include my wants and wishes? In fact, wouldn’t anyone’s personality necessarily include these things ?
What makes you think defining your wants as part of your identity turns your wants into a form of free will? There's nothing about your identity that makes it more free than your wants.
@@bramvanduijn8086Nothing. All I’m saying is I don’t understand why so many people in the ‘no free will’ camp take wants/drives (etc) to be some kind of external ‘force’ making the self do stuff. This just seems question begging to me. Of course, taking wants and wishes to be part of the self doesn’t resolve the issue either. But then, I wouldn’t submit this view as a proof/disproof of free will either way.
@@owood2288I think your issue is with semantics. Your personality itself could also be considered separate from the self, as it is an abstract concept.
The point is you cannot choose your wants, since if you could and did, that would mean you wanted to have that want, which creates an infinite loop of wanting to want to want...
well if one says they reject agency, this presupposes the fact that they have the ability to accept or reject something, one could say they are just responding to their wants or needs, but how can you know that they have wants or needs unless they have self awareness or agency of intention , so apparently you can have the choice of intention and intention of initiation which can correspond to the physical action (predisposed harmony dualism), giving the illusion of free will as a physical sense. So free will physically does not exist. But free will of intention exists. physically everything will occur deterministically, but if your intention is in line and correspondence wtih happened physically, then that is your action, and if you did not intend something but an action emerged from your body physically, then its not your action.
"You only do things because you have to or because you want to." "Which is the reason you're here?" "I don't want to answer for fear of offending you."😂
You always HAVE TO WORK your 9 to 5 because you HAVE TO pay the bills. I am lucky enough to be my own boss and maybe work 10 to 6 😂but I still work for my survival AND Freedom EVERY DAY. Food for thought.
If free will existed, Alex wouldn’t have grown that moustache.
Hahaha yes its the groove piece of hair under the nose taking over .
Fabulous fashion or a symbol of importance 😊😊
🤣
Alex is entering his NY cop story arc
@@LuiKang043 if he neglects his sleep a bit he'll look like Charlie from Twilight
just a hairy situation beyond his control
So the next Tubechat will be with Slavoj Zizek?
can we not have twenty minutes of that guy's slobbering?
So this is a Type of people now...
We saw that heart frankie 👀
That would be so random and epic 🤣
Couldn't do the Zizek one during Covid.
alex got obliterated in this debate
@@ritishifyur religious?
@@MARTISTICTENDENCIES No, why?
Edit: Original comment: I know you're probably just joking but for some reason I don't really like him... Frankie has my respects, haha.
@@ritishifyhe’s an arse
I've only just started watching and I'm not sure which one Alex is yet but I think you're right.
@@Johnb.78 I don't like calling people names but... maybe lol
The wildest buddy cop dynamic ever seen.
I would watch that show
Hahaha
These two need to start a podcast together. Unironically. But also kinda ironically.
definitely ironically
I think they're both iron defficient actually
does anyone ever like anything unironically
As a 43 year old man, the mere fact that I understand and appreciate this crossover is a sad indictment of my poor life choices. Luckily, according to Alex, I didn't make those choices. Now, I fancy a Magnum.
Really funny comment 😂
that was good xd
Two of my favorite TH-camrs who I never thought I’d see in the same video.
The other one is a youtuber?
One of our greatest modern philosophical thinkers
chatting with Alex O'connor. Amazing.
He seems like someone who would be popular with the crowd who say things like "holy science" when they get excited.
This is very Philomena Cunk energy
When he asks about ABBA
This feels like my internal dialogue when I have too much free time.
Episode 6: King Charles
Alex O'connor day by day looking more and more like an American police officer from the 1970s
This is class. My two TH-cam worlds colliding
0:40 "-Makes you feel a bit like a robot, doesn't it? Well you are one, essentially."
Said the Englishman with the posh accent to the weary Irishman.
*smiling*
he's a great jibber jabber for sure
Yeaaaah.
He would agree! He’s saying he’s just as much a robot as anyone else
@@psychonautical6587 I understand that. I just thought it was a bit funny given their dynamic in terms of nationality and history. I'm not English or Irish btw.
you guys have such a genuinely delightful dynamic, also i love how alex is clearly holding in laughter the whole time😂😂
With the tube chat we can time travel, just at normal speed
'I don't believe in God, but I'm told he believes in me, and that's enought to keep me going.' THAT'S A BAR!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hes God 😅😮Hmmm
Why? It doesn't even make any sense xD
*Top 10 staTues tHat CriEd bloOd*
Goofy quote
@@Snowforest60 yo mums goofy.
As a long time lover of philosophy, satire and stupidity, this was right up my street. How on earth did you get Alex to snigger? You obviously are a veery fuunny guy, Frankie!
Oh bless him. This is the sort of discussion me and mates used to have after one philosophy class and a couple of spliffs.
We were 16 at the time and genuinely thought we were profound as all feck 🤣
what is profound then?
@@cringulartoks6647 Well, quite.
I unironically love Abba because I choose to enjoy myself.
When people say they love something ironically, it is because they feel shame about what they enjoy. Once Frankie has eliminated shame in all humanity, there will no longer be a need for ironic love.
@@Baulderstone1 Not really, i can find something funny and entertaining bcs it's so emberrassing that it loops back around to being enjoyable, but it's not good in the way it was ment to be. That's what ppl mean when they say they watch/listen to something ironically
Alex is the kind of guy I would ask out, but I'd immediately regret having done so after two pints.
its crossover time boys
that better health ad fixed me
me too
This video was for a very specific audience. And we enjoyed this a lot.
18:39 A picture of the crown is shown and the train says “if you see something that doesn’t look right…”
Best laugh I've had in a while, thanks guys :))
this is such a bourgeois 'intellectual' debate
single issue campaigner new atheists be like that
And I was just trying to figure out what type of yogurt bourgeois is?
@@truefact844 its one you pay too much for and despite preconceptions has nothing to do with hamburgers
What do you even mean with this lol, "bourgeois"? Will discussions on free ever fix any mundane issue? No...
What's the issue though?
The universe would never dream up that moustache
You know the mind of the universe? And if the universe didn't dream it up who did?
I love the guy in the reflection of the window just minding his business.
The way he just randomly compares meeting Shakespeare with meeting Nelly Furtado’s choreographer & then just drops it like,”Yeah, exactly like that. No more explanation required.” 🤣🤣🤣💀
"ok cool, don't let me answer" ...I can't
This was the funniest thing I have seen in while. "Ejaculated truth". LOL
“Fisting”
"Do you like AI"
"Depends on what it's doing"
"Fondling you"
"Puts me a little on edge 😏"
I love the dryness, that its almost unbereable ackward and then you always get some great food for thought along the way within the conversations.
Really great, keep them coming, you're amazing Fran. (Acid House!🍋)
I loved this. A true testament to how good Alex is at dealing with uncomfortable situations
Type of guy who reads Nietzsche on the tube & definitely watched the matrix as a kid & then read that book in which Neo hides his key (or whatever it was) But also, he seems nice.
the book neo hides the key in is "simulacra and simulation" by jean baudrillard, for those wondering
@@opposite. Have never understood hyperreality. I just don't get it
Frankie shows he's really an intellectual heavyweight, as if we didn't know that already.
Broooooooooooooo I was NOT expecting this collab
19:45
-Unless you're talking about the previous monarch, who in death as in life, I'm sure is looking down on us right now..
-Well, she could be lookin up at us...
-😬
Philosophy students have all the answers and philosophy professors have only questions :)
Thanks for another interesting tube chat!
I love tube chat.....I forgot I actually love philosophy....got married and had a kid and stopped asking questions and just went on autopilot 😢
But kids ask the best batshit philosophy questions!
Because while the philosophers are around philosophising, actual life carries on. Plenty of Monty Python sketches about that.
Amazing and hilarious, I love both of your channels
The Peter Hitchens part is incredible
The collaboration we didn't know we needed.
currently my favourite video on this website
Alex's point about free speech was spot on. Hope he does a longer video about the topic and his changing thoughts.
The two of you in that thumbnail look like a Frankie Goes to Hollywood tribute act.
Whoever decided Tuesday was a thing?😂😂😂
That's made my Wednesday 😅
This crossover makes me so incredibly happy!
Just so cosmic skeptic knows, I have the same breakouts after not working out for a long time and it's actually related to internal bleeding from pushing yourself really hard 😅. You get these purple splotches. It's relatively uncommon. It definitely happens in beginners, but especially people returning to the gym that hadn't been in a long time as they tend to push themselves harder in those first couple sessions than most true beginners would.
7:21 is a moment of pure gold
If they start a podcast it will be the next scientific revolution
I did not expect this partnership, but this is everything I ever wanted
if you do this on the circle line you can embark and disembark at the same point
Alex in the presence of a superior intellect
That Acid House shirt is definitely icing on the cake.
"I cannot control my wants".
That shows great character and strength of will.
I LOVE ❤️ all off your videos , so happy I randomly found you, you really do chill my brain 🧠 x
Did not know I needed this collab
Truth can't be intellectualized and looking for father figures through philosophers just robs one of agency completely.
Man. Abba is funky as fuck and people are too afraid of being uncool to admit it
Amazing, needs a show of it's own!
I am an eXtreme person.
Thank you for the recognition!!!
"It was really easy for me to say."
Irish philosophy Nardwuar! This shit is funny, love the reflection of the lad who's done with this conversation
I am forever changed after watching this.
Thanks
This is the crossover I never knew I needed
Best vídeo either of them have ever made.
omfg the collab i did not know was possible!!
The collab i never expected, but thoroughly enjoyed
Holy carp both fellas here are hilarious 😂
Love seeing.cosmic in this format
Good video. Which is probably truer than I think I would have known, if I didn't know any better.
Brilliant!
last person I expected a collab with but extremely excited to watch
Did not expect that collab lol
What the heck. Not the crossover we expected, but the one we needed
This has got to be the weirdest crossover of my interests ever.
This just made my day!!❤
HUH?!?!?! THIS ROCKS!?
watching this backwards will free in believe you do
I want to give both these guys a hug
You breaking character had me cracking up
I’ve never understood why people who don’t believe in free will view their ‘wants’ as separate from their identity. Why can’t my personality - what I take to be the ground of my identity - also include my wants and wishes? In fact, wouldn’t anyone’s personality necessarily include these things ?
What makes you think defining your wants as part of your identity turns your wants into a form of free will? There's nothing about your identity that makes it more free than your wants.
@@bramvanduijn8086Nothing. All I’m saying is I don’t understand why so many people in the ‘no free will’ camp take wants/drives (etc) to be some kind of external ‘force’ making the self do stuff. This just seems question begging to me. Of course, taking wants and wishes to be part of the self doesn’t resolve the issue either. But then, I wouldn’t submit this view as a proof/disproof of free will either way.
@@owood2288I think your issue is with semantics. Your personality itself could also be considered separate from the self, as it is an abstract concept.
The point is you cannot choose your wants, since if you could and did, that would mean you wanted to have that want, which creates an infinite loop of wanting to want to want...
you should interview Peter Hitchens,
Wait, you really just met him by chance on the chewb? 😂
Can you do this at 6am on the DLR so I can see you while I’m going to work
best thing I’ve ever watched I love alex
Utterly unexpected
well if one says they reject agency, this presupposes the fact that they have the ability to accept or reject something, one could say they are just responding to their wants or needs, but how can you know that they have wants or needs unless they have self awareness or agency of intention , so apparently you can have the choice of intention and intention of initiation which can correspond to the physical action (predisposed harmony dualism), giving the illusion of free will as a physical sense. So free will physically does not exist. But free will of intention exists. physically everything will occur deterministically, but if your intention is in line and correspondence wtih happened physically, then that is your action, and if you did not intend something but an action emerged from your body physically, then its not your action.
that was funny. 2 people who ask the right questions. as to who you should do next, some kind of prepper? philosophy needs an audience. top job
This is comedy gold. Subscribed!
I actually laughed so hard at 6:51 and I was in a restaurant at the time😂
Abigail Thorn interview when?
Best one yet
"You only do things because you have to or because you want to."
"Which is the reason you're here?"
"I don't want to answer for fear of offending you."😂
2:55 The subtlest dig at Christopher Hitchens
You always HAVE TO WORK your 9 to 5 because you HAVE TO pay the bills. I am lucky enough to be my own boss and maybe work 10 to 6 😂but I still work for my survival AND Freedom EVERY DAY. Food for thought.
What the fuck is this collab lmao. I love Alex, just didn't expect to see him.