Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 with S&S Cycle slip-ons and air filter kit MCN | Motorcyclenews.com
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2020
- Online Editor Gareth Evans installs some new S&S Cycle slip-on pipes, high-flow air filter and restrictor plate removal kit to his #MCNfleet Royal Enfield Interceptor 650.
Find out how they sound before and after!
Pricing:
• Pipes £548
• Filter £63
• Restrictor removal kit £27
Kit worn:
• Helmet - Shoei Glamster
• Jacket - Spada Peacedog
• Jeans - Furygan Steed
• Shoes - Furygan Sydney D30
• Gloves - RST Raid
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That's how the Interceptor should have sounded like, love it!
The exhausts which costs about 25% of the bike price, this is surely a chore for RE to make it standard across their 650 models .
@@TypicalKannadiga 48000 isn't 25% of the bike's price, is it?
@@thomasfrank280 More like around 20% in India. The major pivot in the 650s sales figure has been it's price point. This would've been a very risky move for Royal Enfield.
The stock exhausts cost around 45k a pair
Depends on whether it meets noise regulation standards. For example not every motorcycle is Euro 5 emission standard compliant.
I have this bike and both of these upgrades. Absolutely love it! I nearly cried the other day as I dropped my bike for the first time on my mates driveway. Thankfully, only a tiny scratch one of the slip ons!
Hey! I’m planning to get slip on exhausts and a high flow air filter on my continental GT in a few days. Since you have both mods, did you ever run into issues of your bike running too lean? If so, did you dyno tune it to get those AFR right?
@@jamesemerson4102thank you so much for clarifying! I’m getting BMC air filters and red rooster performance slip ons tomorrow!
I've got the 2020 version of that same bike! I'm still in break in period but also have the DNA filter, Booster plug and AEW slip ons waiting for it. I'm waiting until I've done the valve adjustments to add everything. But same Baker Express colorway and I love it. The factory pipes have gotten a touch louder since new but I'm excited to see what the slip ons sound like. As far as I can tell, the AEW are 102 are exactly what TEC uses and are very close to what the S&S are. In my area aftermarket pipes aren't a issue with the authorities and I've never had a problem with police. I always ride kindly through neighborhoods on any of my bikes anyway. I do have to say the Int 650 has been a joy overall though. It really hearkens back to the purist form of riding. Just hop on and go. Easy riding and smooth. Love it!
@@breadgarlichouse2265 at the first (500km) service, as they'll close up a little as they bed in. Too tight clearances are bad news for valves (particularly on a lean running engine).
Nicely done. thanks, am getting interceptor 2021 tomorrow, so will try these later in the year.
These new pipes sounds brilliant 🔥
Nice.. I have got mine and soon will be installing. Cheers mate!
S&S slip ons installed today on my GT650, they looks good and sound great!!! No video clip can match the real thing. Very glad to find a pair.
Did you need a gasket in between the pipe and the silencer or did it just clamp straight on?
Nice little vid. Would love to see how you continue to get along with the bike. I've got a couple of completely cleaned out trumpets on an old Laverda 500. Local authorities have forbidden me to pass any cemeteries and I'm on a course for learning sign language. Nice that the ECU seems to auto adjust the fueling on the 'Ceptor.
That sounds amazing.
Sounds cool, looks cool.
I have this exhaust in my interceptor and i am quite happy with their throttle
Hola! Te hago una pregunta, estos escapes estan permitidos por la ley, y si te mejorò el consumo de carburante?
@@laureanoezequielrojas9636colombiano? En tu pais esta prohibido
Great video! Bike sounds mega.
Thanks mate - appreciate it!
good man! he is a really good bloke
I know what I’m buying.Thanks!👍🏻👍🏻
I love MCN
Me too mate
Good job👍have you considered adding a booster plug too?
When did 'popping and banging on the overrun' suddenly equate to 'sounding good'?… When I was younger, it was the sign of a tosser who'd put less restrictive pipes on his bike, but wasn't capable of dialling in the mixture to get rid of the annoying popping and banging (usually all it needed was a slight richening of the pilot mixture).
Most would put bigger main jets in (because they'd been told to… and bigger is better, right?), so they didn't burn valves and/or pistons on the open road, but twiddling with the mixture screws was beyond them.
Of course, in those days, everyone did all their own servicing and maintenance… Nowadays, a lot will go to a dealer to change oil and filters.
Did you cry?
@@Eidrian111 Cry?… Why?
Very nice!!!
Nicely done mate. The big question is...can I have a go?
Dear MCN when the Superleggera V4 review is coming? I am eagerly waiting for that. Please upload that review video as soon as possible.
Did you have to do any tuning with these mods? Does it run good without tuning?
I believe the air box "restrictor plate" is to reduce intake noise getting out and water spray and sand & pebbles getting in.
...as well as limiting mice nesting inside the filter element.
Excess water spray ingested can turn any dirt to mud, then it sets hard.
I have ordered some of the pipes but is it necessary to change the air filter as well ? Not be detrimental to the engine if I don't change the air filter straight away?? Cheers...
Do a long term review now
Thank you for this video, I am going for the same setup. Did you have to remap the ECU after the slip ons and performance air filter?
A 2 into 1 pipe would really wake that engine up and also give much better throttle response
Did you check gas mileage before and after air filter change, and air filter & exhaust change?
Very well described, enjoyable and informative.
Great video, though should’ve done a comparison of the sound with and without the baffles
Thanks. We wanted to keep it legal!
@@motorcyclenewsdotcom - Here in California, after market exhaust components are technically illegal, and the law is sometimes invoked when neighborhoods complain. The riders with after market exhausts are then cited and have to return their bikes to stock exhausts and have them inspected or suffer a fine.
Dave InWLA technically the same in the UK - they do have “race only” engraved on them, which makes them illegal for road use.
@@daveinwla6360 One big reason why the S&S are the only official aftermarket exhausts from RE. They are 50-state legal due to their catalytic converters.
Like reverse cone megas but my favourite was alway the 1970s Dunstall Decibel silencer the end internal looked like a Gatling gun had been put in it and made any cycle sound very mean even two strokers.
Baffles what are those?
Popping and banging on the over-run is a weak mixture, how long before a burnt valve or hole in the piston empties the wallet?
Good video dude. Relax a little you’re great in front of the camera
Hi Mate, as per the installation document for S&S pipes it says ( Requires Royal Enfield service part number 576065/C (qty 2). In the video I was looking for the same. Is it already there with stock ones or need to be procured. As of I have checked but it's not available. Looking forward for your valuable response. Thanks.
What about riding in the rain with the open air filter?
If using your bike to go through villages and back roads early in the morn, where horses may roam, it maybe another idea worth leaving the standard silencers on.
I get noise in our village. I own two bikes, and some bikes that pass through want locking up.
Should one wait to finish the running in period before doing these mods? Or one can just do it out of the showroom?
Regarding the RE Interceptor, TEC Bike Parts are worth a look...........
What’s the difference between the race only and the non race only S and S slip ons?
Hi Gareth, great video. So glad you like the kit. We have all of those in stock as well as the 865cc upgrade plus the cam kit and Power Comander etc. All of this kit is wicked & we'd love you to try out our own S&S kitted 865cc custom bike when it's ready! (Cooperb M'cycles)
Hi there, thanks for this. Glad you like it. I've popped a mention into the paper for you this week in my long-term update. It'll go online in a few weeks, and I'll drop a back link in there too when it does. Cheers!
After changed my RE Interceptor to S&S mufflers & DNA air filer for almost 2 years, suddenly my engine jerking while it heating after ride it like for almost 2 hours. Is it caused by the changed? What do you think caused of this scenario?
Next install the S&S Big bore kit for the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
But then, to be honest, you would also need a clutch upgrade and do a retuning, no?
If you are upgrading the pipes and the air intake, why not add the fuel plug too? You got more suck, more blow, but no more bang.
Why remove the seat?
🤩🤩🤩
I wish there was a chrome option for the S&S slip-ons instead of brushed steel.
Hey! You have chrome option from another supplier. Let me know if you want to check that out!
me too! and without the emblem
I found these, they look good th-cam.com/video/tQk8lFIwxkQ/w-d-xo.html
@@aaronjaben7913
Thanks for sharing the video. Those mufflers look good!
I actually got a full system exhaust from k-speed.net though. You can see my set up here: th-cam.com/video/4LliVZt9C_s/w-d-xo.html
Find a metal polishers.
Do we need a gasket for the muffler? Can it be tightened with complete air seal without a gasket? please reply, i have purchased s&s mufflers years ago and i still cannot find a gasket for it due to low stock at RE.
Yes, OEM gaskets are needed for installation. You can find them @ Baxter Cycle. www.baxtercycle.com part number 576065/C
Are them pipes road legal ?
how you have changed wayne rooney
Hello there. Did you make it a free flow filter by removing the lid/cap? Don't we need to do some ECU updates to save the bike from lean fuel mixture.
After making any changes to intake or exhaust, it's a good idea to start the engine from cold and let it idle for ten minutes WITHOUT touching the throttle. The ECU will learn the new flow characteristics (back pressure, intake draw etc.) at closed throttle to give it a base line to work from. Then ride it reasonably gently for a couple of miles for it to adjust at other throttle openings. After that it'll make any minor adjustments needed as it goes, to allow for different temperatures air densities etc. which are changing slightly all the time.
The ECU can adjust itself across the range in use without the 10 min idle, but it's better to let it set the closed throttle baseline first, as it avoids any risk of lean running initially.
Do the S&S mufflers/silencers have catalytic converters in them?
The S&S have the cats, yes. AFAIK no other slip-ons have them. One reason for the price difference.
👌🏼🤘🏼👊🏼💪🏼
What happens at the MOT with "Race Only" in bold etched into the slipons?
Surely you put the stock ones back on for that.
Right?
@MCN-Motorcyclenews.com S&S are launching a 2-1 system for the Royal Enfield 650s .. Please do a review. Thanks.
that 2-1 exhaust looks awful for some reason. why do the welds look so unfinished?
Did you make any changes to the fairings? Cutouts?
No bodywork changes at all.
Can anyone tell me how to get the race only off the pipes
A part le jolie bruit y a t il un réel gain de puissance
Several tests of air filters on TH-cam conclude that the K&N and DNA type of "free flow" filters have a significant trade-off -
they filter out much less dirt from the air than standard throw-away filters.
Dirtbikes have a fuking sponge as an air filter and they have the worst dirt of all types of bikes, the filtering in performance filters relies on the liquid you use on the filter...
@@inakigoenaga9811 Foam filters, I've found, seem to work better even on the street, than gauze type filters. Over many years I've come to not trust them at all, especially in dusty environments. Stock cellulose paper filters, and now the more popular fuzzy materials, work very well and with little restriction, and are still best in my opinion unless you're dealing with track use where every bit matters.
Any possibility of big bore kit assemble?
Perhaps... watch this space
There is another option called "Red Rooster" they sounds pretty good too...
Yes. In my opinion the Red Roosters sound better
Do we need to keep engine idle for 15 minutes after installing s&s mufflers ?
It helps the ECU to settle the fuelling, yes
Serious question: Are those pipes legal in the UK and EU? Sound great, but would hate to get fines because of them.
They're not that loud, honestly. They have removable baffles, but I'm keeping them in. They've been designed to pass EU noise regs. They just sound better, rather than much louder.
I think you will find they say “race only” engraved on the silencers- good luck if you get stopped.
Which S&S slip ons are these? There are 2, were these the race version?
3:54 race only
Hi, great review. Just for comparison what is your height and leg inseam? Cheers.
Hey I have an interceptor and am 6ft 5in with a 34 inseam its great. Fits no problem also an 300lbs.
@@bryanhartgraves462 just got my Interceptor last week and thoroughly enjoying it!
u should let it idle first no revs for 10 minutes for ecu to remap itself not just go for a ride also the improved fuel plug from hitchcocks in uk is good to.
It does not remap, I don’t know why that is always mentioned.
How may miles of riding did it take for the ECU to "learn" the new air flow parameters?
There is a HUGE thread on this on the "Unofficial 650 Interceptor" discussion board at forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?board=30.0. As you might imagine, there are very strong opinions on both sides as to whether the ECU learns or does not learn.
@@mwmosser - I couldn't find that thread, but no matter, I wouldn't expect the people posting there to really know for certain. But just philosophically, if you were designing an ECU, would you include in it the resources necessary for it to change its own parameters on the fly? Would any country's auto exhaust regulation agency approve such an ECU whose parameters' values changed without human intervention?
@@daveinwla6360 - It's precisely because exhaust regulations are getting tighter that ECUs need to have a learning capability now. The stock legally mandated mixtures are so lean these days (compared to the ideal stoichiometric ratio) that there's no wriggle room for even the natural variations in air density between a cold winter day at sea level and a hot day at altitude in a desert region. It's why everything is 'engine managed' electronically now (though a bonus is better fuel economy).
In the days of carbs, or less stringent emissions regs, the mixture could be set rich enough for the dense air, without breaking the rules when air is hot and thin, with most variations being taken care of by a CV carb's vacuum controlled throttle slide.
Now all conditions are nailed down to leanest mixture possible for the engine to run without damage. It's why 'Booster Plugs' help 'riderbility', by fooling the ECU that the ambient temperature is slightly cooler than it actually is at certain throttle openings/RPM, allowing it to feed a slightly richer mixture ( a bit like the accelerator pumps fitted to many performance cabs did in the old days).
A classic example (although admittedly at extremes) is the difference between two of my own bikes. My injected RE Interceptor 650 returned over twice the MPG on the same varied riding in the mountains of SW France, as my stock slide carbed ’69 T350 Suzuki was giving the year before. (this was with the same riding companions too).
How about those big bore kits from S&S ?!
750cc & 865cc I believe
Still waiting on literally any info on that since last year. Not a single video or review is there. Nothing from manufacturer as well. Thats bullshit.
@@The3dsGeek Seriously man!!! I've been waiting for it since a long time, no luck yet!
@@The3dsGeek not even the power & torque specs of those big bore upgrades are available anywhere online!
Sriram Shandilya just enjoy the bike and stop trying to make it into something big it isn’t! I reckon he there won’t be much metal left in the barrel after boring to 865cc!! Plus the valves would likely be too small then , unless you changed the head to match....then the EFI might need to be reflashed.....the list goes on - just buy a bigger bike 😁
From what i know they are no longer coming. Aparently, the guy who was the conection between RE and S&S, an ex Harley employee, has left the company.
Does it need to be tuned ?
No need for tuning..... But if you add tuner the power will jump to 50hp
S&S or zard ?
Ask dealer that they do ship to india if yes what would be the exhaust price
49000/- rupees
is ecu adjustments required for this ????
No, the ECU adjusts itself after a handful of miles.
nothing
Is there someone over to his right that he keeps looking at?
Cue card.
Could anyone confirm if these S&S cycle slip ons are road legal?
They come in two variants. One variant comes with s&s branding is road legal, while the other set has s&s branding and "race only" engraved. Those pipes are not road legal.
Ciao da Italia, x caso esiste un Kit black, per la mia bici Black Ray 2023
I see so much videos like that from UK or India, sadly nothing of that is legal in germany...
S&S or red rooster?
45 secs in, 'a slightly flat thing to listen to...' Another way of putting that would be, not annoying to other people and not tiring on a long ride. For most riders, the best way to get more performance is to open the throttle wider. If that doesn't work, buy a bigger motorcycle.
I think it may have been Freudian projection and what he meant was that he is a fat thing to listen to. Oh wait. He said 'flat'? Ok, he's definitely not flat. Carry on...
@@jacksunderland4577 🤣👌
Too bad they won't sell the mufflers to us. Instead of paying an extra $200 to the dealership
The ECU will never have that range to compensate.
Letting that extra air and exhaust flow makes it too lean. The bike ecu cannot adjust for it.
The RA is the leanest bike I have ever measured stock. Almost completely across the fuel range.
You are better off using the stock filter with the new filter clamps.
Ideal would be a tuner, but booster plug does what it says. In rare cases over fueling a tad.
i have an euro 5 so cant apply booster plug :(
Put some v power in it too
This guy is gasping just having a conversation. Time for the gym son.
Wtf is a gym?
Too bad. Putting aftermarket parts is illegal here in India ☹
of course we believe you... 😉😉🤣
@@felixferndown9148 😂😭
Just stop looking at the thing you dropped and pick it up 😂😂😂
The S&S is too costly
You're 1/2 way there. Still quiet.
Use headphones. It's really good
Smil&S per mile
Doesn't match ...looks wrong ..fit scorpion slip ons
Just once I want to see a review without the phrase "without further adieu ".
Or even “without further ado”
Gawd, who wants a bike that “popping and banging on the overrun”? No thanks.
You on the wrong side the road 😅
Or you are
About buying aftermarket parts; what does "widen the net" have to do with anything? And "the stock filter is installed in the bike"? Jeez, we know! Why don't you work out what you're going to say first before you start filming so that you can avoid saying hundreds of dumb and inappropriate words. And maybe pick a day when you're not having an asthma attack. I felt ill just listening. Btw, that 'plate' is not a 'restrictor' plate. It DIRECTS the air flow and is simply part of the airbox. These 'how to' vids should really be done by people who know what their doing, especially since you're trying to sell junk for one of your advertisers. AND OMG! Popping and banging on the overrun!! IT'S RUNNING TOO LEAN ON A CLOSED THROTTLE. And you think that's a good thing? If it were your own bike and you had to replace the burnt out exhaust valves or the actual silencer because the baffles have been popped to pieces, maybe you wouldn't be so happy.
Gone are the days when MCN was staffed by knowledgeable experts.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed!
Throttle response on 42hp engine. It's like the kids that upgrade 125cc motorcycles
You must not have too many 2-wheeled miles under your belt. Better response is ALWAYS welcome.
It's actually 47hp
Now you’ve sorted the pipes, spend a bit of cash on some new armoured jeans. Those look awful!
deffo still need a diet ;-)
fantastic video by the way
Those pipes cost 10% of the value of the whole motorcycle, for no performance benefit and just more noise. Seriously useless trinkets in my view.
Nothing about motorcycles are supposed to be reasonable. He who pays and all that. No performance or torque improvements cited. Yet it does shave 6kg of the sprung weight. That gives the rear suspension an advantage, 6kg less on tire wear, 6kg increase in overall luggage carrying capacity. Just saying ….. 👍✌️
Who rides an INT650 for the performance?
I have same air cleaner but my pipes are AEW 102'S. JUST AS GOOD AS THE S&S pipes.
Tell me you don't understand biking without telling me. If I wanted something fast I'd buy a gixxer
Have to agree, I'm not a fan of noisy pipes, I just think they're rude, selfish and childish. The stock pipes sound great to me without being in other folks face. Weight saving might be a plus for replacement pipes but they'd have to be affordable and quiet before I would consider them.
Why aren't you wearing a open face helmet.. fairy
improevments ? y buy an other motorcycle
No extra horsepower but more annoyance for your neighbours. Not to mention carburetion compromised and all the problems that will slowly - or quickly - occur, like burned valves and blue downpipes. So money well spent. Except that the junk parts were free from US manufacturers trying to flog their junk to bike owners over here. MCN used to be a great paper written by genuine enthusiasts. I hope this vid isn't representative of new standards. At least Gareth has the decency to look a bit embarrassed throughout.
This bike is Fi mate