Nice Cycling #13 | Might Not Give Way

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  • @simonmcglary
    @simonmcglary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It has struck me while cycling that everything that I learnt through advanced driving can apply to cycling. Look well ahead, prepare in advance and just as with driving, while your maximum speed comes down, your average speed goes up! The whole journey becomes much smoother and enjoyable too.

    • @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
      @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like most people I cycled as a kid, but then I stopped - I took my driving test, and BCT on a motorcycle, and after a few yeas on both motor bikes and cars, learning what behaviours of cyclists annoyed me, I returned to cycling, putting all that I have learned about road positioning etc, avoiding the things that annoyed me earlier; I think the break broke any bad habits, and showed me road use from different perspectives.

  • @MattCantor21
    @MattCantor21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Thank you for featuring more of my clips, it’s always a pleasure to support your channel and community.

  • @smilerbob
    @smilerbob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Love the last clip, positive acknowledgement and it goes a long way for everyone. Someone does something nice, appreciate it and try your best not to get hung up with the mistakes from others. Simply fix them and carry on with the day

  • @graemegourlay2850
    @graemegourlay2850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of my life philosophies is "plan on how things are likely to be not how you'd like them do be". I apply this most to my cycling activity. Accept there's human error in the drivers of the vehicles and be prepared to take mitigating actions.

  • @georgejohnson1498
    @georgejohnson1498 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Towards the end of my cycling days, I used to get off to turn right off and onto a main road, and every roundabout. I became a pedestrian wheeling his cycle.
    As close passing at speed became worse during Covid, I lost confidence, and after two years of waking not cycling I finally gave my beautiful 1984 Carlton road bike to someone who will cherish it.
    I admire cyclists with the necessary bravery to continue to ride on the road!
    Best wishes from George.
    PS: Having a major knee operation in December to remove metalwork in preparation for a replacement knee next year, due to osteoporosis-arthritis cause by being crashed into by a SMIDSY driver emerging from a roundabout twelve years ago. That is when I gave up roundabouts.

    • @raithrover1976
      @raithrover1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of the best pieces of advice for new cyclists is to remember that you can jump off the bike at any time and become a pedestrian. I'm not comfortable negotiating roundabouts or roadworks on my bike and I'll jump off and use the pedestrian crossing facilities instead or wheel my bike through the roadworks on the pavement.

    • @lukeorlando4814
      @lukeorlando4814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is the deal with close passing? People don’t seem to have any problem using the empty oncoming lane to pass me on my motorbike when they think the speed limit doesn’t apply to them. But when on my bicycle it seems to be a challenge to see if they can get close enough to not dab the right wing mirror into that empty oncoming lane.

  • @Pattoe
    @Pattoe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I took up cycling as a community carer, going between houses to give medicine, hygiene care, food, socialising etc. It's not paid well enough to afford a car and in busy times bikes can be quicker too.
    I learned pretty early that being safe and being consistent, slowing early to let other traffic flow, and taking primary position was the best way to get between houses quickly.
    Other carers would only cycle on the footpath because they were scared of the road, or would cycle on the road but run reds and go headfirst into danger. None of them consistently got between jobs as quickly as I could, and they were all really stressed.
    Meanwhile cycling seemed quite pleasant to myself. I still got daily honks from impatient drivers and drivers shouting at me from their windows, but you learn to filter out the white noise of entitled drivers and just get on with your day. Too many drivers think taking primary position means I'm "in the middle of the road" and I should "get off the road!"

  • @DenaryMxO
    @DenaryMxO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Your video on primary positioning was excellent, definitely changed how I view my position on the roads through junctions.

  • @TheJase8566
    @TheJase8566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    You can see when people are unlikely to give way by the speed of their approach and if they’re slowing down sufficiently or not

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You should be treating them as a potential hazard and planning appropriately. Most people though just look straight ahead , tunnel vision.

    • @maskofsan1ty
      @maskofsan1ty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And you can encourage people to not stop with hesitancy.

    • @alanwllms5172
      @alanwllms5172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eye contact is a must

    • @splashpit
      @splashpit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My retirement plan is a roundabout and a Mercedes

    • @LeightonHargreaves
      @LeightonHargreaves 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Problem is, what if someone's blatantly about pull out in front of you, AND the vehicle behind is also too close?

  • @grahambonner508
    @grahambonner508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Not giving way at roundabouts can be pretty scary and is all too common. As I see the drivers face disappear behind the "A" pillar as they approach at speed I also gotta worry about cars approaching behind me as I slow down to be able to stop if necessary, sometimes you gotta have eyes all over the place!

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not a big issue with experience and training. As an advanced driver and rider, am aware of everything around me, potential hazards and form a plan to prioritize potential hazards and deal with them, taking everything into account which includes positioning and speed. The plan is constantly reformed as new hazards emerge.

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@DemiGod..Doesn’t mean it’s not still scary

    • @chetmanley1885
      @chetmanley1885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happened to me earlier this year, a driver just ploughed on through without looking as I was turning off a roundabout.
      Saw that they didn't look to their right or slow down, turned as hard as I could right to continue on the roundabout. Still got clipped but didn't get t-boned, driver panicked and didn't actually react to me being there until it was a bit late.

    • @lukeorlando4814
      @lukeorlando4814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I most regrettably did this to a cyclist yesterday where they were completely obscured by the A pillar. Saw them last second and hit the brakes causing everything in the van to slam into the wall giving the cyclist a sheepish wave and a sorry as they glared at me and continued. Immediately thought of Ash telling us to lean forward to look. I’m not at work today. Full of flu which is clearly impacting my capacity to operate.

    • @grahambonner508
      @grahambonner508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @lukeorlando4814 The way I do this in the car is to always slow on approach and try to observe the whole roundabout, then just prior to entering I look again specifically for bikes.

  • @cyclecam6328
    @cyclecam6328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Glad to feature! I think what made giving priority to the pedestrian at 3.42 ok is that my slow is smooth and i dont come to a complete stop. I think better '6 awareness' will allow me to continue giving priority safely in this situation.

  • @calciumkid0568
    @calciumkid0568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I enjoy cycling but it’s stressful when I get honked at for taking up primary sometimes

    • @Zeyr01
      @Zeyr01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Drivers need to get the message. A lot don't understand the primary and secondary positions and just think the cyclists are doing it deliberately to hold them up.
      A mandatory question on the driving test should be to show a clip of a cyclist taking primary and then asking why they are in that position.

    • @raithrover1976
      @raithrover1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Zeyr01If drivers just managed to lose the "got to get past the cyclist" mentality, that would go a long way to solving the issue. There's been occasions when I've been driving behind a cyclist who's been doing 20mph and I can see the driver behind me starting to lose their cool because I'm choosing not to overtake. Sometimes they pull a risky and aggressive overtake past me and the cyclist. They wouldn't do that if we were following a car or a bus.

    • @Scartoons-t1h
      @Scartoons-t1h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have learnt to like the honks: it means they've seen me.

    • @calciumkid0568
      @calciumkid0568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I never thought about it like that but it’s true!

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Scartoons-t1hwave and smile boys, waves and smile"

  • @Scartoons-t1h
    @Scartoons-t1h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant riding in these clips - thanks for sharing. I also appreciate how you also post clips of yourself cycling: it really helps promote good cycling. Keep it up! Regards, Cycling Twitter (not the deluded ones)

  • @stephenclark9917
    @stephenclark9917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Many motorists take affront if you ride in primary. They will barge past.

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They will do that. Seen that happen today, not just one but 2 vehicles, overtaking a pair of cyclists, 1 in primary, passing a car, and car coming opposite way, junction on the right also. Terrible driving no understanding whatsoever.

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not had that issue, they know I know what I am doing as opposed to just being a road hog. My positioning lets them know that I know what I am doing before I get there.

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@DemiGod..The cyclists i saw today were pretty good, but still got barged.

    • @shm5547
      @shm5547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would not say it's many motorists. The vast majority will act appropriately when a cyclist is in primary. But there are a few that seem to take umbrage at it and can get dangerously close, perform a reckless overtake or even get out and physically threaten the cyclist. Thankfully, I only encounter these nutters a couple of times a year.

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@shm5547 Interesting, considering you are the one normally using the words plenty, many lot of bad motorists!!!. 😂

  • @robg521
    @robg521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    6:23. That’s par for the course in London, if traffic waits for the large gap before pulling out they will never move from the junction.
    Pedestrians step out in front of cyclist and bikes,
    cyclist and bikes pull out in front of cars,
    and Lorries and busses pull out and block the road so you have to stop and let them clear the junction.
    And people in little hot hatches pull out in front of everyone.

    • @theyouofyesterday6254
      @theyouofyesterday6254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah it's every person for themself! My great grandmother was a Londoner born and bred, and there was nothing more terrifying than going out for a walk with her along Kensington High Street near her flat as she would just step into the road whenever she wanted to without looking at all and saunter across! By some miracle she never got hit and lived to her 90s 😅❤ The rest of us would be waiting to cross for ages and end up using a pedestrian crossing.

  • @ralphbeardmore9738
    @ralphbeardmore9738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Ashley that one at 2,00 was a clear case of A pillar blindness. It's my belief that we all need to spot this at every junction or at least expect it. Can you cover this for bikers too and make car drivers more aware of it

    • @Morbeyn
      @Morbeyn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He covered it a couple of weeks ago in the video “Lean in your seat” th-cam.com/video/JKwUj4UCwX0/w-d-xo.html

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The one at 2 mins wasn't a pillar blind spot the driver was deep in conversation with the passenger and was looking the other way.

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No such thing as pillar blindness. It's drivers too lazy to move their heads to see round the pillar.

    • @ralphbeardmore9738
      @ralphbeardmore9738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kudosbudo there is when it hits you

  • @simonwatson2399
    @simonwatson2399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Failing to give way can be easy to spot but not always, especially when someone is rolling up to the roundabout. The hardest though is it's impossible to tell, if someone starts to move before you're past, if they plan on trucking behind or they're going now.

  • @robk2291
    @robk2291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I encountered a cyclist on the way home from work tonight.
    He was riding along a dark stretch of road ( 40 limit ) with no reflective clothes and no lights. 🙄
    I only saw him when the lights from an oncoming car showed something moving in the darkness.
    It was only as I got closer that my lights revealed it to be a cyclist.
    A little further on and the road narrows and turns to a 50mph limit, with lots of bends.
    I hope he made it home safe and didn't become someones bonnet ornament. 😳

    • @shm5547
      @shm5547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The clocks going back can catch some out. Either totally forgetting to take lights or the batteries die on the way home. Need to be very vigilant as a driver at this time of year.

    • @gordy4459
      @gordy4459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep...I had a similar thing the other night...but there was also a young kid sitting on the handlebars...from their interactions I got the impression it was father and son......

    • @horsenuts1831
      @horsenuts1831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you should slow down a bit. If you can't stop in the distance you can see, you're going too fast. That cyclist without lights could easily have been a deer, or even a confused elderly escapee from the old people's home. Indeed, at this time of year, you should be wary of deer in the dark because of the rutting season.
      A 40mph limit is not a 40mph target. If the road is unlit, and you can't use full-beam, then drive more gently. That way you won't have to report that you were caught out by your lack of vigalalence (and try to blame the cyclists for it). As Ashley would say, its up to you to correct other peoples' mistakes.

    • @horsenuts1831
      @horsenuts1831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gordy4459 Funny, I saw something similar with an unrestrained child in a car. Motorists are all shocking , aren't they?

    • @mintywebb
      @mintywebb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then you woke up from your fever dream.

  • @jamielee-hill449
    @jamielee-hill449 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some great cycling there, and some terrible emerges from cars and vans, especially on roundabouts. Really puts me off getting a bike.

  • @gordon861
    @gordon861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The clip around 6:25 was probably not a great example, and it was pretty clear what was probably going to happen. The car in front had stopped and given priority to the emerging car when the cyclist decided to continue past the waiting vehicles. If this example had been reversed and a cyclist had stopped to allow a car or bike out and a car had decided to take back priority that the cyclist had given to the emerging vehicle, we would probably be criticising the car that went through and took back priority. I think knowing what was probably about to happen, it would have been better to also hold back with the car rather than push through. Had this been my on my motorcycle I would have been on the right of the car and I hope that I would have seen what was going and held back rather than demanding my right of way. But that is looking back at the situation after the fact.
    Finally, very impressed with the quality of the footage from the Techalogic cameras, if my old Contour camera ever dies I may need to look these up.

  • @hebijirik
    @hebijirik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am getting a little jealous of UK cyclist for having this "primary/secondary position" in your law. It seems useful but Czech law has nothing like this. Here a cyclist doing what would be "taking primary positon" is basically guaranteed to trigger a road rage incident in at least a few percent of drivers.

    • @cupofcustard
      @cupofcustard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unfortunately we still have road users getting triggered/road ragey even after having it as law.

    • @hebijirik
      @hebijirik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cupofcustard I am not surprised by that. I would still say you are ahead of us in this.

  • @Hdtjdjbszh
    @Hdtjdjbszh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the common thread in this is calm and polite

  • @davependragon1
    @davependragon1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have this thing, where I have to look into the eyes of any driver who should be giving way. If I have not stared directly at them, as far as I am concerned I am invisible and they will NOT be giving way. Many drivers have no regard at all for cyclists or pedestrians. I had a driver overtake me on an incline last week, and IMMEDIATELY pulled in front of me and parked, forcing me to stop, restart on a hill, and go around the now parked vehicle; and I don't mean he overtook me and parked after 100 yards, he overtook me, pulled in front, and stopped immediately.....why did he bother overtaking me to park in front of me, what did he gain????

    • @theyouofyesterday6254
      @theyouofyesterday6254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do the same as you, but even after apparent eye contact some people pull out. Either they haven't actually seen me or they are taking my eye contact as a signal that I've seen them and so they can go 🤷🏻‍♀️
      Have also had that overtake followed by immediate parking or turning left scenario 🙄

  • @Kenjh71
    @Kenjh71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About the first clip and sometimes allowing cars to pass, I usually stop pedaling as well to give a visual clue about my intentions.

  • @ado543
    @ado543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would generally recommend using roundabouts with more than one lane like a pedestrian - I’ve just had too many close calls due to drivers not looking around their A-pillar blind spot.
    Mini roundabouts can also be quite dodgy for cyclists - you just need to expect people coming from the left on the main road not to give way.

  • @tomfreeman650
    @tomfreeman650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    it beggars belief the amount of motorists don't give way to the right on roundabouts

    • @smilerbob
      @smilerbob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or slow down on the approach

    • @out-backer7875
      @out-backer7875 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, it is only a cyclist anyway
      /s

    • @Zeyr01
      @Zeyr01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depending on the speed of both vehicles approach and the design of the road a cyclist can be hidden perfectly in the pillar blind spot.
      This was perfectly demonstrated in an older video of Ashley's discussing a problem junction in the new forest. Another TH-camr also talked about this junction. I think it has since been redesigned.

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zeyr01You give two factors, speed and road design, but haven’t mentioned the most important factor of all: driver observations.
      Can do some roundabouts at 20mph+ if the observations are good enough and other boxes are ticked so speed is less important than effective observations.

    • @Zeyr01
      @Zeyr01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kieran.Robertson I agree with what you said but the point of the comment was just to say how this blindspot can be created.
      Check out the Ashley Neal video titled "How they fixed the junction Tom Scott made famous" and at 0:40 check out the simulation. It shows depending on the speed of each vehicle it can create the perfect blindspot.
      A similar situation can also happen on roundabouts. And you're right about making proper observations. If a driver moves their head a bit to check the spot they can easily stop this from happening.

  • @jsdufidndfdsndcahnf33dhrii
    @jsdufidndfdsndcahnf33dhrii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a cyclist I make eye-contact with drivers at a roundabout every day and they still pull out in front of me or out into the side of me almost every time - why? Very stange behaviour but it may be due to the roundabout's design. It's really upsetting

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, it's driver attitude that needs to be changed.

    • @theyouofyesterday6254
      @theyouofyesterday6254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've noticed this too. I think some people take eye contact as a signal that I'm letting them out 🤷🏻‍♀️
      It's annoying, but I just presume everyone is going to pull out on me (including other cyclists, especially leisure blokes in lycra who think a woman in a skirt is going to hold up their Strava time - not that I like to stereotype of course 😂) and make space for it to happen.

  • @bikertime1
    @bikertime1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's amazing how much cycling has made me such a better driver. People who just drive tend to be horrible drivers.

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And are people that just cycle horrible cyclists?

    • @AshleyNeal-JustCycling
      @AshleyNeal-JustCycling  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brilliant Jon. Some of these people don't realise how prejudice they are towards different groups of road users.

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I think it's getting worse in general day to day life.

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jonc25 Few people just cycle. And a horrible cyclist won't kill a driver.

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Cyclists aren't prejudiced because most drive also. And the 'prejudice' of cyclists doesn't kill anyone. Your bias is digusting. You are part of the problem on the roads.

  • @QiuEnnan
    @QiuEnnan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:05 I’m not sure why the horse rider on the left was using the footway - The Highway Code says you MUST NOT take a horse on to a pavement

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I thought that was strange also

    • @QiuEnnan
      @QiuEnnan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ Apparently it’s made illegal by the same law which bans cycling and driving (even to park on) the pavement - The Highway Act 1835 I think

    • @paulannable3734
      @paulannable3734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably because they wanted to ride side by side more safely and less obtrusively in the road and no pedestrians were coming down the pavement. I’m guessing if one did, they’d move into single file

    • @paulannable3734
      @paulannable3734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I’m holding up traffic when cycling I’ll always try to duck out of the way and let them pass. I don’t want a queue of cars behind me just as much as they don’t want to be crawling along behind a bike

  • @facelessvaper
    @facelessvaper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got moaned at with wavy arms for using primary to avoid a sunken manhole cover✌

    • @theyouofyesterday6254
      @theyouofyesterday6254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So annoying! Our local town Facebook group is made up of at least 50% complaints about potholes, yet when you're cycling drivers seem to forget potholes and similar obstacles exist and get annoyed if you try to avoid them on a bike.

    • @facelessvaper
      @facelessvaper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theyouofyesterday6254 Indeed. We currently have some 95% finished 'off road' cycle infrastructure on a 40 stretch that brings out the "must get front" syndrome when bikes are on road. I think it has a glow in the dark painted line, but runs out to a 2 meter mudded area, I trailed it yesterday but got stuck and had to cross sloppy mud.

  • @Zeyr01
    @Zeyr01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6:29 You're right they're just awful. One of those driving instructors has a YT channel where he blames and points the finger at cyclists all day never admitting his own mistakes! 😂

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, that sums him up.

  • @reecedawson6113
    @reecedawson6113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just past my driving test after years of cycling on the road both for commuting and leisure and we'll people just need to slow their lives down and not be so impatient

  • @muttly1301
    @muttly1301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good to see horses being included. A good pass, but one comment - if you are a cyclist approaching a horse and rider from behind, can you call out as you approach, to make sure both horse and rider know you are there 🙂 It will reduce the risk of either of them jumping when the cyclist passes.

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn’t seem necessary

    • @muttly1301
      @muttly1301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kieran.Robertson what doesn't seem necessary?
      Making your presence known to a rider and horse?

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Kieran.Robertsonit can be. Bicycles aren't common. They can freak horses out. Seen vids of it happening. They see the rider on the bike and freak out til the cyclist dismounts.

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@muttly1301 Exactly. Provided you pass the horses in the correct manner it seems to make no difference if the riders know you’re there or not. The riders should be making frequent observations anyway.
      The only exception I suppose is if the riders are being ignorant (ie not making observations and riding in such a way that they’re blocking a reasonable overtake), then calling out would be necessary to pass them safely.

    • @muttly1301
      @muttly1301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kieran.Robertson - rider do make frequent observations, but a cyclist approaching quickly can catch you out, or if you approach directly behind the horse and rider. The same goes for electric cars, which is why they are designed to make a noise when approaching slowly.
      Would you not make yourself known to pedestrians.
      A simple ring of the bell or a call out to say you are coming past, is not a big ask, is it?
      I would suggest you also check rule 63 of the highway code 🙂

  • @jugglerjim01
    @jugglerjim01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Regarding the mention in the last clip, you've really upset Silvio Diego 😂😂 he's telling cycling twitter how much you blame cyclists for everything and are completely biased against them. I think you may gave touched a nerve with your critique 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's true though. Neal's bias is well known at this point.

  • @MrJinxmaster1
    @MrJinxmaster1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would it be legal to use an airhorn of some kind on a bike in order to call out to motorists effectively?

    • @paulsengupta971
      @paulsengupta971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never use a horn to call out someone. The only use for a horn is to warn others that you are there before a situation arises.

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulsengupta971 How do you think horns are being used currently?

    • @paulsengupta971
      @paulsengupta971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EpeP-qs9xb They are being used quite a bit for rebukes. This is incorrect. They should only be used as a signal that you are there if someone hasn't seen you.

    • @EpeP-qs9xb
      @EpeP-qs9xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulsengupta971 Exactly.

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:00 no one seems to alter their speed these days. They just barge in regardless.

  • @ilikechickensausages2075
    @ilikechickensausages2075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:18 That horse rider that's in the middle of the road could use a hi viz vest to protect her/horse life.

  • @DemiGod..
    @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    02:52 cyclist using very narrow beam light which will be very hard to see from the side, Use a cateye ampp 1200 and ampp 2200 myself which are easy to see in strong sunlight never mind night in flashing mode
    04:37 an issue of pulling over to let cars past is risk of punctures, the cyclist rode through stones and other junk that tends to end up there and risks a puncture. I would do this with touring puncture proof tires but not racing tires.
    If you have to keep stopping after your genorosity to replace your inner tube , you will think twice.

    • @shadybacon3451
      @shadybacon3451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seems more like poor observation and not caring.

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shadybacon3451 Looks like they had no idea the cyclist was there atall even when right next to them which suggests that aswell as a puny light the cyclist had dark, non reflective clothing.

    • @shm5547
      @shm5547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4:37 you do need to ensure you're not going to ride through anything your tyres cannot handle, 30mm Schwalbe G-One Allround for the win there.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or it strongly suggest they were looking elsewhere.

  • @stevedouglas3975
    @stevedouglas3975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry but as a regular cyclist I disagree. It is impossible in some cases to tell if a car will give way at a roundabout as some drivers will slow down, look directly at you but still proceed! As for positioning in primary/secondary, this is another reason to have a rear view mirror as then it's easy to know if there is a car behind which can influence the cyclist positioning if safe to do so.
    Regarding the clip with emergency vehicle coming through, I would have moved into secondary to allow vehicle coming through more room.

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why I slow down on roundabout. Means I can stop and have more time. Does mean any driver behind me has to wait longer but tough luck.

    • @theyouofyesterday6254
      @theyouofyesterday6254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you have to presume all drivers may not stop and prepare to act accordingly.
      I understand some people may have neck issues that prevent it, but I find just turning my head to check behind is better than a rear view mirror as it clearly communicates with the driver behind that I am aware of my surroundings and have seen them.

  • @zxbzxbzxb1
    @zxbzxbzxb1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:13 As Michael Caine once explained, "In this country they drive on the wrong side of the road".

    • @JdeBP
      @JdeBP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do when they are overtaking all of those parked cars on their side of the road, visible at 06:09. No-one seems to have explained how the motorist was supposed to travel on that side of the road, straight through those parked cars.

  • @LordSandwichII
    @LordSandwichII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:24 On his phone! 🙄

  • @lukeorlando4814
    @lukeorlando4814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to ride secondary until I got hit by a car trying to lane split. Now As long as I’m on a marked road I’ll cycle primary everywhere. If they can’t get in the other lane to overtake, then they shouldn’t be overtaking. And if they can use the other lane then, me riding secondary is irrelevant. Baffles me how when on my motorcycle riding in the right wheel track and people decide the speed limit doesn’t apply to them they can muster up the ability to move over to get past but, when on a push bike it seems the common mindset is stay out of the oncoming lane and as close to the cyclist as possible even when there is nothing oncoming. And if they hit the cyclist well then it’s the cyclists fault for existing.

  • @robg521
    @robg521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:50, those who thought this rule up are delusional,
    making a cyclist stop in the middle of a roundabout [where they are extremely vulnerable] in order to give way to a pedestrian is lunacy.

    • @shm5547
      @shm5547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's actually very rare that a cyclist would need to stop to give way in this situation. As cyclists are extremely narrow, it's usually possible to pass to the front or the rear of the pedestrian, and still 'give priority'. In this example, there was plenty of time for the cyclist to get past before the pedestrian even reached the central island. It was a nice gesture, but unnecessary and could have put both the cyclist and the pedestrian at risk. At least in a car, when you stop to let a pedestrian cross, your vehicle will offer them some protection from other motor vehicles.

    • @PedroConejo1939
      @PedroConejo1939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless the pedestrian is actually _in_ the road, it's still a judgement call. No vehicle is safe from the inattentive clown behind, but of course, cyclists are at greatest risk of injury.

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:09 rubbish they are on the wrong side because of all the parked cars on the opposite side.

  • @adampoultney8737
    @adampoultney8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely it would be better for both horse riders to use the pavement in that clip

    • @JdeBP
      @JdeBP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. It is illegal to ride a horse on the footway, as another top-level commenter has explained.

  • @Dellvmnyam
    @Dellvmnyam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my country drivers won't get why a cyclist is inthe middle of the lane.

  • @alancrisp1582
    @alancrisp1582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best to fix your camera 📸 to the bicycle frame. Not your helmet ⛑ !..

    • @gordon861
      @gordon861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really, if mounted on the helmet if you do have an accident you are more likely to catch the number plate and an image of the driver that hit you. People have an automatic reaction to look at threats as they appear. Cameras mounted to the bike give much less useful information in the event of a crash.

  • @grahamnutt8958
    @grahamnutt8958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🚲👍

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:08 is the state of our pedestrians in a nutshell. No conception of their own safety, just blindly walk out into the road without a single backwards glance. Is that kid ever going to learn to cross safely on his own when he grows up?

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The number of mothers I see trying to sacrifice their children by thrusting their prams/buggies into the road when it’s *not clear* 😳

    • @raithrover1976
      @raithrover1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Kieran.RobertsonYep. I had one do that to me when I was cycling to work one evening. She didn't even glance over her shoulder before pushing the pushchair onto the road in front of me. After berating me for not ringing my bell I told her she and her child were lucky a was riding a bike and not behind the wheel of a Tesla.

  • @vfclists
    @vfclists 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't agree with the first clip because:
    1. The rider appears to be a fast-riding hard-riding experienced road cyclist. You can't expect his mindset in most commuting riders.
    2. The highway code should not demand this extra-aware mindset from cyclists any more than they demand it of drivers. Cyclists should be able to ride at the side of road without worrying about whether they should take primary position or not. Re-educating drivers is more important than bothering cyclists who are riding lawfully. It is drivers who should be taught to respect the 1.5 meter passing rule.
    At 5:00 Matt was wrong, unless he was absolutely sure that there was no vehicle in lane 2, or the driver would slow down like he did. The considerate thing is not always the sensible thing to do especially in this case of giving pedestrians at intersections priority.

    • @MattCantor21
      @MattCantor21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always check behind before letting pedestrians cross and if there’s a vehicle following behind I’ll use a flat palm backwards gesture to signal the driver that I’m slowing down.

    • @AshleyNeal-JustCycling
      @AshleyNeal-JustCycling  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @vfclists just because you might be unable to keep an eye on your surroundings, it doesn't mean others are the same.

  • @wellsee123
    @wellsee123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horrified to hear you say that Liverpool driving instructors are anti-cyclist. Cycling in (and especially to) Liverpool along any of the main routes from the north is perilous and terrifying at the best of times. Bad attitude from other road users is the primary cause for concern and if they're getting taught it from the very beginning then we have little hope for a better future for our city.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "but it takes so much more energy for a cyclist to gain speed up an upgrade than it does for an artic"
    cyclists.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More physics teachers crying into their soup!!

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andyedwards7800 even the ones who bicycle for exercise complain it takes them too much energy to stop and start again.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but it will take much more energy to slow and speed up a lorry..work done =force x distance

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andyedwards7800 you and I know that. bicyclists refuse to admit it.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You may know it, I dont

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is not such good practice in that first clip is wearing black. I never, ever do that when out cycling. It is much better to wear something highly visible. Not just for motorists, but also for pedestrians. These days, it seems to becoming the norm to wear black, even in conditions of poor visibility. Yes, you can use a light during the day, but often those that do it during the day do not use one on the front, which can be as important. Even on a sunny day, if you are moving in and out of shadows, such as cast be trees, it's a good idea to be highly visible. It costs nothing, so why not?
    Nb. Rule 169 of the Highway Code also specifically says that slower users of the Highway should try and avoid holding up traffic, and should look for somewhere safe to pull over from time to time to let the queue pass. It specifically reference very large and slow moving vehicles, but is not limited to those. I did once have to follow a cyclist here in the Cotswold for about 5 miles on a very narrow road, who could have obliged at a passing place but didn't. Being a bit considerate costs little and avoids unnecessary friction.

    • @Mw9d-m8n
      @Mw9d-m8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bright colours can still blend in. I was thinking today how my bright orange top was very similar in shade to some leaves on the trees and the alternative fluorescent yellow would have matched other autumnal hedges. Sometimes you can’t win, whatever you wear.

  • @prettyundefinedrightnow8963
    @prettyundefinedrightnow8963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see some considerate cycling. Thanks!

  • @Morbeyn
    @Morbeyn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only time I’ll give way to a pedestrian when exiting a roundabout is when Highway Code rule H2 says is mandatory, which is when they’re already in the road. There’s no requirement to stop unless they are in the road, and doing so at a roundabout exit is risking being rear-ended (as you point out in the video at one point). In a car it’s an inconvenience, on a bike it’s life-threatening.
    One of those things that I did on my Category A test because there was a DVSA examiner in a fluorescent jump suit behind me.
    The moment they make is a “must” and not a “should”, I’ll pay attention.

  • @doughunt9621
    @doughunt9621 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clip starting at 2:08. The cyclist appears to have a front light that alternates between bright and dazzlingly bright. These aught to be illegal as they take attention away from other road users. Also, with the other nighttime clips canwe be sure that the cyclists actually have lights?

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just a normal low lumen light, clearly didn't take enough attention though did it! Love the moaning about lack of lights and then too bright lights..top work

    • @MattCantor21
      @MattCantor21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reflective road signs often overemphasise light shining on them, there’s been times when I have my bike light in a 400 lumen setting it’ll look bright on the signs.

  • @alanstebbings2886
    @alanstebbings2886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6.24 shows the danger of filtering up the inside of a line of cars The white car had probably left a gap for the red to emerge irrespective of the rights and wrongs of so doing

    • @smilerbob
      @smilerbob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would suggest the opposite is true and filtering up the inside is actually better for this exact scenario. However, be aware of those gaps for vehicles turning into the junction
      If you are filtering along the outside then there is less chance of being seen by the emerging driver who, OK did poor observations at the start but did see the cyclist eventually. Imagine being the other side with the driver having a little more momentum?

    • @alanstebbings2886
      @alanstebbings2886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @smilerbob fully agree that this gives the best visibility My point is that in doing so you need to be fully aware of the actions or intentions of orher road users If may be that the driver of the white car had beckoned the other to come out in front of him and hadn't been aware of the cyclist undertaking the queue

    • @smilerbob
      @smilerbob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alanstebbings2886 Understood and agreed

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Timestamps are with colons ‘:’ not full stops ‘.’
      Example: 6:24

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Note to cammers: if you are submitting clips where you are taking avoiding action YOU are doing it wrong. I must have sent Ashley nearly 100 clips and none of them involve me taking avoiding actions. There simply aren't any to send him.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Note to arrogant idiot, pride comes before a fal

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Several of these clips are at night too. Are they even being seen or are they dressed head to foot in dark clothing?

    • @TheGiff7
      @TheGiff7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If lights are being used then clothing is not much of an issue. Though a lot of cycling clothing has reflective decals included which helps. Fluro colours do not work at night as there is no UV light making their use pretty redundant. It will make little odds what the cyclist was wearing in the night time clips. The motorists were simply not looking and using the roundabout as a slingshot. Proven experience over the years has confirmed this for me as I’ve consistently experienced motorists cutting me up on both exits and entrances to roundabouts.

    • @chrisl1797
      @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TheGiff7 Indeed there should be light, either cast or reflected. Sadly too many cyclists have neither.

    • @Mw9d-m8n
      @Mw9d-m8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In several of the nighttime clips you can clearly see the cyclists light(s) reflecting off of road signs etc so no doubt they could be seen. I run several lights both front and rear, reflective jacket, reflective strips on shoes, bike wheels and frame and yet I have still been told I can’t be seen.

    • @chrisl1797
      @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mw9d-m8n would motorists deign to tell you though? Many wouldn't for fear of a torrent of verbal abuse (not from you specifically, but generally). Might I suggest an experiment. Get a car/friend with a dash cam to follow you and let us know the feedback/results.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My clips were the ones with the roundabouts. I always have flashing lights front and rear and when dark will add an extra rear flasher and a continuous beam front. No idea what I was wearing in them tbh but my clothing tends towards bright rather than dark, although as said above if you have lights it doesn't really matter.

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:00 2:19 if I was on the bike I think I would be getting off and pushing on the pavement around roundabouts like this. It is a bit rich them saying the motorists are steaming through when they are doing exactly the same thing.

    • @doctor_gee
      @doctor_gee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't understand your viewpoint at all. The cyclist in both cases is proceeding because there are no vehicles they need to give way to. Completely different thing. They also did slow down at the second one.

    • @chrisl1797
      @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @doctor_gee both are at least partially blind to the left. Cyclists (or anyone) should be going much slower on the approach.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No idea what you are talking about TBH. Both those mini roundabouts have good sightlines, simply require people to look. All of the clips were from my daily commute, ride them almost every day. No idea why you would think the cyclist should get off and walk.

    • @chrisl1797
      @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @andyedwards7800 I rest my case. If they are familiar to you daily you should NOT be getting caught out like that. The fact you have submitted clips suggest that these roundabouts bother you and these incidents are not one offs.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In none of the cases was I caught out, in all the cases I was able to stop and avoid a collision. If I were to get off and push I have no idea how I would be safer, I can control my bike at walking pace..you really do make no sense here

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its nothing to do with cyclists changing how they are perceived its drivers needing to understand them r vehivle is a multi ton instrument of death. You just cant help blaming the victim can you.

    • @paulsengupta971
      @paulsengupta971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you not understand anything that's been said or shown? This is all great advice on how to not end up dead!

  • @fritzdrybeam
    @fritzdrybeam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ashley Neal, the anti cyclist, tells people to ride in the gutter, where the broken glass, and other crap is.
    Riding in the gutter, encourages close passes, too.
    Always take the lane.

    • @AshleyNeal-JustCycling
      @AshleyNeal-JustCycling  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just watch the video from the start and learn about road positioning from my viewer. I do get many stupid comments, but this takes today's prize with ease.

    • @fritzdrybeam
      @fritzdrybeam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AshleyNeal-JustCycling
      Ableism too, not surprised that you are a bigot.

  • @wibbley1
    @wibbley1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6.22 typical bikey, traffic has stopped and left a big gap for the car to safely exit, except for bikey, who refuses to use a bit of give & take, instead decides to undertake without any thought or consideration.
    No, it was not 'filtering'

    • @brianconnell9602
      @brianconnell9602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was filtering.

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Timestamps are with colons ‘:’ not full stops ‘.’
      Example: 6:22

    • @wibbley1
      @wibbley1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianconnell9602 No it wasn't. It was undertaking stationary traffic.
      Had bikey been filtering, he would not have been in conflict with the car.
      Typical bikey, refusing to use any give & take on the road. Rather than using a bit of roadcraft, steam along and then get all upset when things like this happen.
      100% caused by bikeys arrogance & entitlement.

  • @chrisl1797
    @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:37 lazy cammer cyclist not using the cycle lane around the roundabout (see the other cyclists using it.)

    • @fablolliesrock
      @fablolliesrock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Irrelevant.

    • @simonwatson2399
      @simonwatson2399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fablolliesrockthose lanes put you more out of sight of drivers and due to some poor drivers encourage close passes. Too many drivers see a bike in a cycle lane and think passing distance rules no longer apply.

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      To use the cyclist path I would need to cross 3 roads or I could ride on a big wide 30mph road, I know which I think safer.

    • @chrisl1797
      @chrisl1797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andyedwards7800 and yet those other cyclists don't appear to have an issue and you do. ::Confused::

    • @andyedwards7800
      @andyedwards7800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do you know they didn't have an issue?

  • @goodyeoman4534
    @goodyeoman4534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like the way many of these cyclist speed up into a hazard as if to prove some petty point that no one else will give a single fig about but them. To avoid becoming road spaghetti they might consider riding with a bit more common sense. After all, there are far too many bad drivers on the road to take on, so you have to just let it go.

    • @DemiGod..
      @DemiGod.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They want an incident for the video though

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DemiGod.. Ofc. It's their a*** on the line, though, so I'm not fussed.

    • @Mw9d-m8n
      @Mw9d-m8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love the way some people watch a series of clips that a trained driving instructor highlights almost unanimously as examples of good cycling, and still confidently states that many are accelerating into hazards and might consider riding with more common sense. If that were the case, do you not think Ashley would have highlighted that?

    • @Kieran.Robertson
      @Kieran.Robertson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠@@Mw9d-m8nI was thinking the same thing as you

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mw9d-m8n So you don't think my comment has any truth at all?