A Tiny Ryzen Powerhouse! M75q Tiny Gen 2 Review 4650G It Can Game!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we take a look at an awesome tiny Ryzen 4560G APU powered mini Pc know as the Lenovo ThinkCentre M75q Tiny Gen 2.
This thing is tiny and packs a punch because it’s powered by the AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 4650GE!
With 6 cores & 12 threads with a maximum Cpu clock of 4.2Ghz and since this a 4th gen Ryzen APU it’s backed by Radeon 7 graphics clocked at 1900mhz!
This is perfect for work, 4K media playback Gaming, and emulation!
We take a look at the M75q gen 2, go over the specs, run some benchmarks test out web browsing, 4K videos playback and finally test out some pc games like cyberpunk 2077, CS-GO, GTA5, Skyrim, doom eternal, and more!
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Lenovo ThinkCentre M75q Gen 2 Specs:
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE
6 Cores - 12 Threads
Base Clock 3.3Ghz
Boost Clock 4.20Ghz
GPU: Radeon 7 @ 1900Mhz
16GB DDR4 @ 3200Mhz
256GB M.2 nVME SSD
Wi-Fi 6 802.11AX & BT5.1
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00:00-Intro
00:10-Unboxing
01:30-Overview
02:21-Teardown
03:30-Specs
04:32-WIndows 10
05:10-Web Browsing Test
06:07-4K TH-cam Playback
07:12-Benchmarks
08:16-CS-GO
08:37-Street Fighter 5
09:09-Skyrim Special Edtion
09:37-GTA5
10:18-Forza Horizon 4
10:47-Doom Eternal
11:18-Cyberpunk 2077
11:47-Power consumption
12:02-Temps
12:20-Final Thoughts
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I'm loving these APU videos. Getting real hyped for the 5000G series!! Thank you for taking the time to show us these
It’s Zen 3 and Zen 2 depending on what you get it seems.
I actually bought one of these a week ago to replace my parents 12y/o dell desktop. Super happy with it. Beats the pants of almost any other home / business style pc.
Great video, really like the inclusion of wattage readings (and that they show a range of normal usage)
excellent
Thousands of views in a few minutes you're doing something right
Good content that other channels don't have?
Mining is the most retarded waste of entropy conceivable. Something needs to be done to address this
A week later *Racks of tiny gen 2's spotted mining"
@@slapmeisterrecords8226 I agree...mining should be doing something useful...growing food, feeding the poor or making clean electricity. Mining is just making fake money and convincing idiots that monopoly money is worth something.
@@brokeandtired even using it toward crowd processing for biomedical computing (ie drug research), or anything else scientific. The thing that makes mining pointless is that the problem is just arbitrarily set up with no general reward for the processing power put into it, other than solving meaningless crypto algorithms
I love it! I have 3 of the older m93s you were talking about. i use one for RecalBox retro game system and one for a small 2tb hdd NAS and one for spare. There are VESA mounts to put those micro towers right on the back of a monitor/TV. I had no idea they made a ryzen/vega version!
nice!
you even test the power consumption and temperatures 👍👍
Man I'm really excited to see the future of ryzen apus, let's see this one in emulation, I plan on make a game station with all emulators and stuff, and a mini setup like this and a customized windows would be great!
I picked up a couple used models of these last year to hold for future virtual pinball projects. I got the old i3 versions to run fx2 and fx3 pinball. The ultra small form factor will allow me to mount them easily with velcro or 2 small screws.
What stunning little unit. Really appreciate your videos. Stay safe.
with all the backstory about your previous devices, it'd be nice for a setup reveal one day, and maybe a follow up updated setup reveal even, nice videos
Imagine if they start putting Thunderbolt 3 ports on these little machines, so that you can run it stock for everyday computing, but then fire up the GPU when you need it.
Thunderbolt makes sence on portables because if you have a GPU them why not use it😂
You need a NUC kit.
The m90q has a pcie gen4 x8 slot which makes this possible now
@@saharatul Now we're talking
Man, you're fast with the Ryzen 4000G series
Lol recently Lenovo has some really good deals on this model~Just got 4750ge model for 600 Canadian dollar, but have to wait over a month since it’s just so hot now.
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@@zq9813 When you are playing some games how is the fan? Is it really loud? :)
@@Mosestylez Lenovo canceled my order due to shortage.
I just ordered this exact model last night! Today I went looking for a review and found that my favorite mini PC reviewer (you) had reviewed it just today. Amazing! I will be stuffing mine with 32GB DDR4-3200, a 2TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 dual booting Windows 10 Pro and Ubuntu, and a 2TB Samsung 870 QVO for storage.
Hey, this has only PCI-E 3.0, can't go over ~3300 mbps. Unexpected from Ryzen 4xxx series :\
You make amazing content. Thank you so much for your videos. 🙂
Thanks for the upload ETA, I bought my brother one on the previous sale and it’s tiny and powerful and especially for the price you can’t build something this small at the sale price
The hospital, where I'm working, just bought 180 of these, but the Ryzen 7 version & they also bought the screens that can be paired with them... It is so practical, you slide the tiny thinkcentre just in, it has a special cap, that covers the outputs & it & the screen is powered by 1 (square yellow) 90W power adapter, so if you buy both, you get a spare 65W power supply too ;) They are so fast,stable & stay so cool...
Great review. Thanks!
Hey man! Love your stuff watch all the time...ya know what chaps my hide?? You like everything man! Each year can you do a recommendations vid of the past year? I was watching your vids trying to decide which mini pc I wanted for emulation and it was a nightmare trying to figure that out with your current format. You rock either way bud, appreciate you!
You have a great job, my friend.
Nice video..this is exactly what I wanted but they're all sold out....great find !!!
for about the same price, i put together a ryzen 4650g with the asrock deskmini x300. pretty happy with it and amazed at the rpcs3 performance.
🤘😁🤘 You have really cool videos. I can guess how much effort it requires basing on my small experiences with making videos...
Got one ready to buy,just waiting on the emulation video now,before pulling the trigger.
here we go again with the Ryzen mini PCs
And I ain't complaining! I love it!
Dude this is what i need, for a tiny pc
It is really powerful
That is really nice! Sure, you can build a Asrock A300 or some similar Mini PC for less (if you get the parts), but this tiny desktop PC seems to be quite powerful and for something out-of-the-box enough powerful for an average user.
But now I'll have to watch a comparison between this and something with a Ryzen 2400G or 3400G since I have no idea, how fast these benchmarks numbers are. If you have the time, maybe you could blend in some numbers from you previous Mini PC builds for comparison in your next review of this kind. It would help to differentiate it from something like you J4115 build or one of these Asrock A300 just to get an idea, how much faster this tiny thing is.
You're killing me with these small form pc. Dont need it but so much want!🤣🤣🤣 keep up the good work btw
I feel the same
Ditto, im already looking for it on the Lenovo website haha
thinking of buying one of these , purely for emulation in the living room , with that small of a footprint it fits perfectly in an entertainment setup
Simply amazing, so flat yet so powerful, this is like one third of a DeskMini.
Happy you put in Street Fighter V, hopefully it'll appear more often.
I know you briefly touched on Fan noise but I'd really appreciate a more thorough look at it especially given this ultra small form factor. I like how Optimum Tech does it in his videos by setting up a microphone and then using a mouse click for noise comparison.
Otherwise, really loving your Ryzen APU videos, thanks a lot.
Volume wise, deskmini is 1.92L and this one is a little over 1L, so it's almost twice the size, but I ultimately went with how much desk space the PC would use and came to the conclusion that deskmini is smaller when laid horizontally (25 square inches vs. 50)
@@keysersoju9823 You're right, the DeskMini is smaller in length and width. I was just thinking how this small height makes it super easy to transport in a backpack or even a carry bag. So you could carry it around between two sites that have the necessary peripherals. (just fantasizing)
ETA Great review as usual. I just wanted to let you know I run with a 3400GE version of the machine that you reviewed and I switched out the external power supply from the supplied 65 watt version to a 90 watt version and was able to see a marked improvement in especially GPU capabilities. I just wanted to pass that along in case you wanted to try that out on the new 4650GE version you are running. As always thanks for your reviews :)
I just bought this computer with the R7 4750GE. I wonder if the extra compute power is limited by the power restriction. I sure hope not. I'm also curious about the possible consequences of using a higher wattage power supply, but would love to know what power supply you used.
@@bubba132 If you have more power than it needs its not going to hurt it will only draw what is needed. I went on ebay and purchased a 90watt and saw a performance boost in the gpu for sure. No more stutter in games.
Damn that looks good. We are always so tempted by these tiny devices, but we literally have no use for it 😂
Thank you for being one of the few channels on TH-cam that is aimed at adults and isn't full of the f-word!
Great i dnt knw about some game accessories but its help my knowledge about gaming features gadgets
Hi man! Thanks to you I’ve pumped my Lenovo like yours. May I ask how you hooked up the monitor? Through hdmi or displayport? Is there any sense to connect it through displayport to get a better picture than with hdmi (in terms of vram)? Thank you
Looking forward to Linux & emulation tests video!! I really cannot resist to this one so just booked a 4750G version!
You mean the "4750GE" model which belongs to the "M75q Tiny Gen 2" Series, right?
Because the "4750G" model belongs to the "M75s Small Gen 2" Series, which is not only 3 times bigger in size compared to the M75q, but also 3 times heavier in weight. And it doesn't have Wifi 6 or BT 5.1.
@@Sup_D Right, I haven't noticed that. I referred to the model with Ryan 7 Pro 4750GE.
Dude I got an HP EliteDesk 705 G4 with Ryzen for gaming/emulation and it works great!
I am such a window shopper lol keep these up they will all be on my wish list
ETAPrime I truly enjoy your content! I have an old i7-2600 desktop with 16gb of ram with an Nvida GeForce 6500. it runs beautifully its mainly a media rig, internet and occasional Photoshop work. So my question is, with running a majority of the day and sleeping in standby overnight will the temps get to high an will it handle Photoshop with out getting to hot? The pc would be sitting in a well ventilated spot. Secondly, could you also recommends any alternatives as well. Thanks!
Hi… Really like your videos and would love to see DayZ running on this (and other similar - maybe lower-end) Ryzen mini-pcs. I’m on the lookout for one, to integrate into my work-desk, to have a little fun whenever I have some break.
This might be the small computer I would buy. Going to watch the emulation video next.
Can't wait to see emulation test
Impressive with out external gpu !! I use lenovo thinkcentre tiny i5 8500T and its also good i can run battlefield 1 at médium 1650 *960 p And some 1080 motion graphic work and illustration work , but that one ryzen 5 Will be a Nice upgrade ! Thank you for the reviews
A comparison with regular 4650 and 4750g would be nice ✨
Wait where the hendheld pc that i saw you post in photo? I cant wait to see it!!!!
Nice little set up if you're looking for a low profile rig that'll run iRacing. Mount it to the monitor and use a bluetooth 2 in 1 keyboard.
I've been considering a small form factor pc for months but decided to get an m1 Mini for media and a Ryzen 5 6800X for gaming. Still waiting for the day we can get a Ryzen zen 3 chip into a small form factor box.
Get the lenovo VESA mount II or sandwich mount kit. You can then mount the pc 💻 either on the back of your monitor or in between your monitor and it's VESA mount stand/wall. Then use alt-p to power on. Your desk will be super clean with the hidden PC 💻.
Good job man 👍👍👍
Great video and even better channel!
Do you recommend a pc builder? You give me and others ideas about buying pc builds, which I’m personally in the hunt for a small form factor RPCS3 powerhouse...🤔
Thanks for the video:
how will this compare to your Asrock mini 300 build?
Looks like a pretty nice setup with the 32" monitor.
ETA reviews a unit and the price automatically goes up at least $100 if the unit doesn't sell out completely.
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I just snagged one of these during the sale. Can't wait to try it out. I wanted to upgrade to 16GB but not familiar with rank setup. Crucial lists single, dual and one without rank. Any recommendations?
4:09 "It can be upgraded to Linux"
Linux is always an upgrade from any OS lol
@@peacekeepermoe it depends from the person
Running Linux mint on a Ryzen 4750g Deskmini, I use it for game development, love it. :)
@@IgnacioGonOroz i agree mate
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Glad there are more USB porta on the newer models.
I have the M75-q1. Try using a 90W power adapter (or higher) - you might get a 10% increase in overall performance as was the case with the q1.
Man, you're awesome, like always.
Name of the exact model of the BenQ monitor?
Just bought a M93p. Lenovo is the brand to upgrade for sure!
Good little machine, got one myself. I modded it too by making a hole in the side panel to get better temperatures and removed the proprietary fan with a filter.
Cost me the same to cut a hole in and such as it would have cost me to replace the proprietary fan with a used one on ebay.
It's quieter too, well worth the buy.
I was just Watching One Of Your yesterday Video
Nice! Don't forget it can support ecc ram too!
Great video and review! I have thinking to get the one with Ryzen 4650GE and 16gb 3200mhz, what do think 🤔 mainly Multimedia/Streaming 4k/photo editor/casual entry level gaming /emulation. O will be better build a custom one? Like your IN WIN? Budget $600
When you do your FPS games tests could you add Pinball FX3 and VPX as there may be some people (me) interested in a small form form factor PC for their virtual pinball cabinets.
^^ This! Playfield needs to be running in 4K @ 60fps. Extreme test would use monitor #2 for backglass, and monitor #3 for DMD. ;)
There should be more people like my brother.When i upgraded gpu i gave him my 1050ti.I told him in the games he play he can get low to medium out of her and he said he will rather play in 720p with a little higher settings than play in 1080p with medium settings.I am lost without at least 1080p.But he's happy.
Purchased! 👍🏼😁
Great review! Your voice mildly resembles Mirage from Apex Legends haha
Great machine! I’ve always like Lenovo’s
So I'm guessing this would be a great mini PC to put into a virtual pinball machine to try to get at least 4K 60fps pinball gameplay? Or is that asking for too much? Maybe use this to upgrade my arcade one up virtual pinball 🤔
That's really good performance
could you look up the Acer Veriton N4640G USFF Desktop its the same form factor of this machine it is a 6 gen based machine but it has a full size x16 slot on the slot i recent bought 1 i have a rx 550 yeston graphics card in it now and it works amazeing
Just imagine: put this in the backpack, plug it in any tv with one of those Bluetooth keyboard/mouse, be happy :D
The really downside is the price tag tho xD
Yeah, I also feel like these should have gotten cheaper by now. OEMs dragged their feet on AMD APUs and have really only made it to market now, in the middle of this PC market chaos.
There is a version with Ryzen 3 4350GE which is much cheaper.
@@radry100 and drastically less performance. You miss the point. Low powered versions of these processors have been around for years. These new 6 and 8 core processors are really exciting because of the extra power.
I just bought this computer with the R7 4750GE. I wonder if the extra compute power is limited by the power restriction. I sure hope not. I'm also curious about the possible ramifications of using a higher wattage power supply (as Neil suggests below). I probably won't get much feedback, though, since this video is a year and a half old.
Looks like a really nice machine all things considered
Great video! I really like your channel and I'm interested in mini PC's. I woulsd like to have yout thoughts when you compare this one with ASUS PN50. Why didn't you choose PN50 over M75?
I have the same question. Also, can faster ram be installed on the Lenovo?
Wow you got an awesome deal for sure. Waiting for one to go on sale again, really thought 4th of July would have some good deals but no such luck. Have you ever thought about doing some videos on monitors? I don't have any experience with Benq monitors but I figured yours is probably a good bang for the buck given your pragmatism. What's the model# of that monitor if you don't mind me asking?
Hey prime what do you do with all these systems do you keep them?
Watch ya video all the time great content just have 1 question ....build me a gaming pc 😄😄😄
Have you always done those hard noise gates between cuts? Definitely missing the smooth cross fade in this one, my dude!
Great video 😀
Was able to get snag one off ebay for $400. Should work great as a desktop for the next few years prior to transitioning it over to a low-power server.
Edit: Noticed a typo.. On Doom Eternal you showed the footage of 1600x900 (900p) but the text in the bottom left says 720p.
That Ryu lookin nice 👀
This Tiny pc's are amazing since 2010
I like the look
Hey ETA ,
will you make any mod for this pc ? to get a little extra performance / better cooling ?
Can you try and hook up a external gpu with that m.2? Love your vids btw❤
Yeah, this sounds interesting. He would have to give up the M.2 drive for a sata drive as main storage, but even a cheap GPU like a 1650ti would likely make this thing run rings around most triple A games at reasonable settings. I love the “small form factor w/e-gpu” setups. A setup like that would be ideal for the casual gamer in a tiny-home or RV/boondocking environment.
Love at first sight. 😀
Can you, or somebody check the power adapter?
I need to buy from USA, and don't know it can work from 230V with EU plug cable, or needed a 230V-110V voltage converter.
I'm really impressed how good low settings look nowadays. It used to be that it looked like crap.
I love the idea of something like this, the only problem is longevity. The graphics performance is fixed and can never improve, so once it's too slow it's dead basically, despite the CPU being capable of more.
Not if you’re willing to sacrifice the NVME drive for a sata ssd so you can run an m.2 to pci-e adapter to make an ad-hoc E-GPU setup. Even a 1650 or a 2060 would make for a good shot in the leg for this tiny guy.
This is one is pretty good. Can you give us feedback as to analog audio quality? The DAC quality found in previous version M75q-1 is really bad!
Any chance of a step-by-step guide on how to tear down and reassemble the casing? I've been trying all day to get the bottom of the case back on but it just will not line up. Nothing appears to be causing a blockage, the pannel just doesn't sit right and I can't work out why.
All about APU are interesting for me!
Mine is the one that comes with the Ryzen 5 3400GE and i love it! Both for work and gaming. Do you know if its possible to swap the cpu for the 4560G ?
Yea same because mine can’t do much gaming wise. I get about 20 FPS lowest possible settings in fh4. He got way better FPS and I really want that cpu now.
If they’re socketed and the motherboard supports the newer CPU, you could. The trouble is cost of the standalone CPU is basically the same as just buying this whole computer as far as I can tell, in addition to the motherboard not being updated to support next generation of CPUs.
Great video and content as always buddy do you think you can build a cheap budget pacing 2021 for gaming under $300.00, I’m still using a very old i5 650 and is in desperate need of a upgrade for a better gaming experience
I don't see how unless you get all the parts from eBay. A graphics card alone is over 100 dollars. That being said if your looking for the bare minimum you might get an AMD motherboard and just use the built in graphics card. Should be be good enough for low settings at 1080 for newer games. Should be around 300 dollars for power supply and memory. I would think for a nice system 450 dollars would be more reasonable. That's if all the parts are on a discount. Just what I think.
@@timmyburden5701 yeah I got a old gtx 750 ti and 12 go of ddr 4 ram inside this pc I’m currently using I figure I’d using my ram and CPI with a better pc for now but if I can get a decent motherboard with built in gpu that runs good for a decent price I might need to look into that only thing is I’ve never used Amd products before
@@miraclechild_5027 It sounds like you have some parts that could be used in a newer motherboard. I was thinking you had outdated stuff. That will cut down on the cost a lot. 300 might be do able.
When you install software on a new machine do you do it one by one or by an image?
Finally! Something that is available also in Europe!
If you have time - how does it run No Man's Sky? ... Although it seems to run on pretty mid-grade hardware, even my older 2400G on mid to low settings, it seems like NMS is kind of all over the map on how well it runs on what hardware combo you have. Thanks.
@ETA PRIME have you thought about reaching out to these manufacturers to build the perfect Mini PC maybe through a Kickstarter or something of that nature?
please do XiaoMi mi 10T unboxing and reviewing with HDMI adapter
hey just wondering whats the newest ryzen apu u could put in this system
Eh, MiniPC, standard stuff. Though I assume the Lenovo's are a touch more reliable than their HP alternatives.
It is nice to see these sort of computers completely replace the box monsters you would see from Dell in the workplace though. And it means you'll see a healthy second hand market as they become increasingly ubiquitous. ^_^