2022 BMW K1600 B | It's Going BACK!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Last month we did the BMW K1600 B vs the Honda Goldwing test as even though we preferred the Goldwing for outright touring the BMW was a better all in one motorcycle. Today its time to return the K1600 to BMW but it would be rude not to go for one more thrashings!!
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I'm a simple man - I see a Lamb Chops Rides video, I click on it regardless of the bike!
Same!
Good man, we need more like you 😁👍
Agreed
@@_Archambaud Disagreed.... :0)
@@LambChopRides you're the man, appreciate the videos!
I'm with you Chopsy, that engine is an absolute gem and should be used in other sectors - a naked, semi naked, sporty sports tourer etc........like a modern cbx1000, nice 👍🙂
Yeah exactly!! Bloody brilliant if styled correctly 👌
How sweet would a naked be with that motor in it... damn
This is clearly a great bike, but I prefer the Goldwing Bagger.
This is definitely one of the best bike channels.
I bought a GT last year and yes, the weight is an issue at standstill, when pushing around, low manoeuvring etc. However, the enjoyment from everything else is quite an experience. It isn't a 'pop to the shops' type of bike, through the tunnel or ferry, nail it from Calais to.....and enjoy 🙂
My 6 cylinder experience is from a 1986 Kawasaki 1300 6Cyl EFI (straight 6, shaft drive). I got a job at a bike dealer, where the owner suggested i buy it. It was the silky smoothest thing I’ve ridden!! I’d buy one again. In fact i owned it for 2 years and was offered thousands more than i paid for it (30% more) btw it gave most sport bikes a run for their money, seeing 120kmh in first gear !!
Heated seats rock! The K16 is an awesome bike - if you're a giant (and luckily you are!). You're dead wrong about the centre of gravity though, I found the thing really top heavy....oh and the Gold Wing does have electronic suspenders on the Tour model.....just sayin' ....and yes, let's do the Alps, you take the K16, I'll take the Gold Wing!!!!
I feel like someone coming from a sportier machine will get on better with the beemer, but I won't lie I could barely get the gtl off the stand 😆
Agreed , had one and always thought it was top heavy.......
That's a great idea for a video sir! Yes I do agree, slow speed manoeuvres or pushing the bike the GW is easier to handle. But K16 feels lighter once over 20 mph
I have a 2020 model Bagger, I love it to bits, I agree with everything you say, a greatly underestimated bike.
Hope this helps❤
inline six’s inherent smoothness is a function of its layout. When a piston reaches top or bottom dead center, the sudden direction change produces a rocking imbalance at one side of the engine block. In a straight-six, pistons at the front and back of the engine mirror each other’s movement, and these primary forces are ineffective. So, too, are the secondary forces created by pistons moving faster at the tops of their travel than the bottoms.
The Goldwing 6 is smoother.
So love this bike. My husband is contemplating importing one, it would be costly but he loves this bike
Great review Chopsy, having owned the k16 for a couple of years I found that it could stall every now and again, then you would tend to over rev next stop! That's the only bad thing I could say about it.
I agree it is a rocket ship for the size! it would be good to see a summer review as the k16 is better than you would think in the twisties and the 6 cylinder scream coming out of a bend is to die for!
I now have the Goldwing DCT and don't have that stall problem anymore, but I do miss the k16!
Great review 👍
Thanks John 👍
You nailed the biggest problem. Throttle is so sensitive that it takes practice to not over rev leaving a stoplight. It’s even worse to stall.
Friction zone on the clutch is very small as well.
Perhaps if the increased idol when the clutch is being released? Everything is computer controlled, so why not?
Ooooh borrow it in the summer for a Chopsie, Greg and Tea Pot Cornish pasty smash again! You know it makes sense - imagine all the pasties you'd fit in the side luggage 😁
Can I come on my Gold WIng?
You beat me to it! That'll be a funny vid!
great bike, with a wet weight of 358 kg. With a rider like us (120 kg, naked)), gear and a bit of luggage, you're at 500 kg easy, so only 60 kg left for the pillion with gear.
And getting more then 500 kg in motion with 180 Nm torques makes for a great tyre-muncher. I got a friend who uses this thing for his commute and he gets about 6 to 7000 kms out of a set of Michelins.
Clever stuff! The only connectivity my bike has is my bum on the seat! 😂
Hi Lamb chop, I had a GTLE K1600 and I agree, great bike. 6 cylinders are the optimum amount of cylinders for engine ballance, then you get the v4, v6, v8 and v12 and of course the w12 and 16.
Take care and ride safely
Mitch.
ps , I now have a Can Am Spyder because my wife has arthritis in her knees.
Nigel, along with five bikes, I have an F3-S. Great machine. I like it better than my two-wheelers.
Imagine this 1600 engine in a Can-Am!
I would recommend getting the GT to try in the summer. Have owned two previously and they can tour and scratch with the best of them.
Nice vlog. Nice bike. I think it's better looking than the Honda. And second hand these seem reasonable for what you are getting! Very tempting. Would make an ideal long term purchase as looks like it does everything most riders need! Ride safe bud
Fascinating to compare your review of this bike (positive) with those of say TMF (negative). Good too to see you show off the navigation which is often skipped over by those afraid to experiment - or ask their teenage children!
Thanks Kevin 👍
John, look at the old k1200s or k1300s ( quick shifter fitted as standard on 1300).... 167bhp/175bhp @ 120nm/140nm... with esa( electronic suspension) and all for under 5k... bussa speed & lighter...now that is a vlog worth seeing ;)
Great idea 👍👍
I agree, lets make this happen ppl
That's a real nice colour too. I'm sure it would be worth a revisiting in the summer weather. It doesn't hang about(unless you stall) . Very nice machine.
Sounds like you have changed your mind on the one you would like to own chops .Both great touring bikes and a great review by your good self looking forward to your next one
Another great video, thank you Chopsey 😊
Really hope that you can get the Beamer back in the summer, lets see what it can do on some warm rubber 😉
All the best
Russ
I have had three Yamaha ventures, a BMW K 1200 LT, a Honda GL 1800 goldwing
I went back to an older Yamaha royal star venture 2008, because I do all my own work, and after owning the BMW and then the Goldwing. I wanted to go back to something I could actually service myself, now that labor is $125 an hour at the dealer.. are used to be a mechanic at three different dealerships when I was in my 20s. I know how to do the basic maintenance, but I found it on the BMW and the Goldwing, it was much more complicated to do simple jobs on other bikes that are not so simple on the BMWs and the gold wings anymore, I don’t want to have to marry the dealer to keep one of those things serviced correctly..
On my BMW K 1200 LT. I wanted to have a break and clutch fluids changed. There were warnings all over the Internet not to even think about trying to do that job myself. Because if I got any air in the system, the brake system would completely shut down and I would have no brakes front or rear until the machine has been transferred my trailer to the nearest BMW dealer to have it reset.. I ended up doing the job myself with a couple of master cylinder attachments to increase the brake fluid and clutch fluid capacity to reduce the chance of having the system suck air because that system is so different. It uses electric service to send the brake fluid to the calipers.. there was no feel to those brakes.. they were grabby because they were electric/hydraulic.. that BMW was the most flawed motorcycle I ever owned. And I’ve had dozens and dozens of motorcycles. Was very expensive also. I had a collision with a deer at 70 miles an hour on that BMW. Both untethered mirrors went straight to China. They popped right off and said goodbye. $5500 damage, that was 2010 prices. Each mirror was $492. They’re probably $2000 apiece today, and they were no more sophisticated than the mirrors on my Honda Pacific Coast which I commuted on for 24 years. The mirrors on that machine which looked almost identical were only $87 apiece. And they had tethers on them on the Honda. So if you bumped one or had a collision with a deer, the mirrors would not go skipping down the road..
I actually dropped my BMW two times in parking lots. It was because of how top-heavy it was, and the grabby no feel electric brakes. If you have the handlebars turned slightly and you touch the front brakes, that weird front end that does not compress does not absorb that energy. It goes to making the bike very unstable and very heavy. I spoke to a group of other K 1200 LT owners one night at a bike gathering. I told him I dropped my machine twice. All three of them started laughing and one of them said get used to it, everybody drops them at least once a year..
are used to be three BMW dealerships here near my home here in Western Pennsylvania. Now in 2023, there are zero BMW dealer’s.. all three of those dealers that used to be here are gone, out of business..
I don’t know what it’s like around the rest of the world, or in Europe, but I would talk to other BMW owners of the same machines before I would go out on that limb again..
One other thing that happened on that BMW with ABS brakes.
this is the reason I got rid of the machine
I was searching for a campground that my friends and I were going to meet one weekend. I got onto a back road and needed to turn around. I started down a fairly steep paved road that had a lot of gravel and fly ash on it. I think it was near a industrial site where the local power station dumped its burnt coal. so I started down that slope and I went to use my brakes. The ABS took over and detected that the wheels were starting to slip on those tiny fly ash marbles. I felt nothing in the brake lever or the brake pedal. Nothing. I had no brakes at all.. none.. there was a 90° corner at the bottom of this hill I was not going to be able to make that turn. I ran straight into the grass and I was lucky there was an auto salvage yard with a wire mesh fence 8 feet high all around the property. I ran straight into that fence, it was like a wire net that stopped me. Luckily I did not drop the machine but it did damaged the front fender.. that is when I decided that I do not want a motorcycle with ABS brakes. Motorcyclist magazine pointed out when Suzuki came out with their updated version of the V Strom 1000, which I had at the time the old style non-ABS v strom 1000.. I was interested to see what they had to say about the new model. And they pointed out that people that would take this motorcycle off road on dirt roads and gravel and possibly slippery muddy roads with slopes to them, or risking life and limb because you could not turn the ABS brakes off on the new Suzuki V Strom.. they pointed out that - that is dangerous..
I had a Moto Guzzi Norge with ABS brakes. The differences, you can turn off the ABS system on the moto Guzzi just by pushing a button on the dashboard. And if you have a problem with your brakes on the Guzy, the brakes automatically revert to conventional braking.. you can also bleed the brakes without any special attachments. And it doesn’t cost $750 labor to change the clutch and brake fluid like it does on the BMW. It’s probably more than $1000 now to change the brake fluid and the clutch fluid on a BMW K 1200 LT. $750 was the price in 2010+ parts plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax..
Speak to someone about the realities of owning a BMW motorcycle or car before you consider one. If you are wealthy and you do not mind the fact that you have to marry the dealer. Be my guest. But BMWs are sure aren’t what they used to be
I have a K1600 bagger, I have a larger screen and hand guards/deflectors fitted. It’s an awesome all round bike I love it, so surprised by the performance and handling.
I'm a Lamb Chop simp at this point.
So much common sense and unapologetic honesty. 👍💪
"A big old barge"!! 🙂PMSL. Great video again Chopsy.
Hope you do get one of these in the summer , you could give it a go round a track , be interesting to see how it does , yes I know it won't perform like a sports bike but still it would be fun !
Enjoyed your review, and as you have said what a beautiful engine, turbine smooth, my only reservation to actually getting a GTLE, is two up with all the gear how manageable would that weight be. I'm a 5'-10" fit 65 year old who has a GS 1250 ADV, and manages that easily. The Missenden flyer said he was actually put off taking Mrs flyer on the back, because of his perceived high weight and slow speed balance issue. The only thing for me I suppose, is to try one myself. You handled it no trouble it seemed. Thank you.
Bear in mind Chopsie is three times my size....the K1600 is an incredible machine, but you need to be a giant to handle it....
@@TheMissendenFlyer That's funny, yes I'm about in the middle between you and Chopsie. In the spring I'm going to try a K1600 and a wing, only way forward me thinks....
But by his own admission he says hes a whimpy fella 😆 When me and Greg did the pillion ride he didn't want to take me on the back for some reason..
Quick note to correct an inaccuracy in this review: the phone compartment DOES feature a usb-c plug to charge your phone. The cable is NOT included (grrr :-/ $30 for a $26k machine?... ).. I own the 2022 (purchased new last June 22).. Choosing between this and the Goldwing was one of the most difficult decisions I had to make in recent years.. but I live in the mountains, and quickly passing groups of cars with the Goldwing in short straights between turns feels underwhelming.. In comparison, the k1600 is a rocket power-wise, and a real pleasure to handle in the twisties.
Which would you purchase today, the Goldwing or the K1600? These are the two bikes I'm comparing for my next touring bike.
The k1600 blows the gold wing out of the water, I got both.
The only advantage the gold wing has is its comfort and stability, which really is a double edged sword.
Brilliant stuff John and it's getting better with bigger audience 😜 and Mavis sister is in the dash auf das BMW yah 😃☺️ bloody awesome motorcycle,, going to be a busy schedule for you,, Suzuki gsxr,, Ducati hyper motard ????? awesome watching 👍👍👍☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland 😁
Thanks Cecil thanks buddy 👍
Nice machine. Just too heavy for me. 👍
Nice review. Seems like a great bike for what it is but just too expensive & heavy for my equally pathetic physique & bank balance lol.
Thanks Chopsy, nice final review. Can’t help thinking the first ride impression from that chap called Gregorio was more on the money though?!?! 😅
Haha, a far superior review for sure 🤣
The centre piece is that stunning engine. Much prefer traditional look the GT/GTL especially since it’s a touring bike.. the bagger just looks weird imho. You have to get it out in the ☀️ for a proper test, it’s like a bullet train when you wind it up. I found myself laughing at how good it handled and went for such a unit. Serious bit of kit
Sounds amazing! Best!
Great review Chops
How tall is Lamb Chops? I don't think he's said it enough! 😂
You 2 could do Monaco in a day on that, and the wing “Cocktails before sunset on The Med”
Challenge set Chops 😂👊
Brilliant idea that you know! 👏
We know it's more than a decent bike when you manage to have the speed pixeled out or blacked out even in +2° C. ;) It's not on my top 3, but it is impressive and desirable.
Top review Chopsy, would you prefer the K1600 or the RT1250?
OMG that looked COLD L' its been 80's here in Texas- Moto GP in April come sit in my Box !!
Imagine if they wound this engine up just a little - let it have a 12k redline or something - and then put it in something a bit more sporty like a rival for an H2SX.
A bit more wheelbase than an S1000RR, nice ergos and a huge spread of power with that sound.
Come on, BMW - get it done.
These bikes are huge but I still can't help but wonder how well the naked concept version would've sold, had BMW put it into production. A pal has many bikes, two of them Honda CBX 1000's, one with upside down forks and I've always fancied a go on an inline 6. Sadly, most of his great collection has been ruined in storage very recently, by a badly leaking roof. It was an awfully grim spectacle, rust and corrosion everywhere on stuff previously worth a small fortune.
Yeah didn't know they even had a concept Michael... sounds brilliant! Sorry to hear about your pals bikes sounds bloody terrible 😞
Love the bike but really hate the handlebars.😉 They look like bulbous dirt bike bars on a cruiser. That said, that’s my only complaint. I hear that I can order it with the cast bars and I will do that.
What an awesome bike, I’d likely have to remortgage my home to fund such……not sure the Wife would approve 😊 thanks for the review 👍
Oh do it Les worth it! 😁👍
Great vid chops, i love these big tourers, i am from a sports bike background and they do handle for such a laege lump.
If you do manage to get one again i would love to see a review on the K16 GT SE and not the Bagger.......
You have an unused gym membership! Who would have guessed 🙂 Most engines can be primary balanced with ease, it's the secondary imbalance that the balancer shafts tries to control. 6 cylinders naturally take care of the secondary balance.
BTW, what's your settings on your GoPro, please?
I trade my 20 Goldwing to this
Great video!! Which would you pick GW or K1600?
Depends on the mood, got both, but prefer the k1600
But then I lean towards the spirited end of riding style.
They are speed limited to 120 mph (B). They are quick not fast. There is a difference.
When are you going to ride an R7 chopsy?! Really wanting one and would love to see what you think!
Yes Yamaha seem to be coming around to riding there bikes so maybe soon 👍
@@LambChopRides Great would love to see it, Love from up’ north!
I don't feel like I've pissed meself🤣 bout spat me beer out😜
Like the look, mush to big for many riders including me
Not an entirely balanced review in that the correct bike to match against the Gold Wing is a GTLE. I suspect the end conclusions would have been quite different!. Comparing a top end tourer to a Bagger is the cause of the conclusions and comparison comments throughout. Still an impressive result for "just a Bagger" to nearly pip the Gold Wing. Try it again and use a GT or GTL (Ideally a GTL).
he was talkng about golwing bager vs k16 Bagger, fair enough
All that tech and they put BMX handlebars on it!
This, goldwing or r1250gs?
these and the 44 teeth videos are easily the best ones on this bike. well done Chopsey.
...steady on!
@@TheMissendenFlyer and I'll say your vids on the Wing were excellent too, Sir!
Thanks buddy 😘 👍
Nice review but can you tell us how tall you are?😉
Haha yeah three mentions in the vid sorry 😋
I'd be interested to see you do a review on one of the Harley Davidson Trikes. Not the CVO -Just the basic Freewheeler.
I rode a Bagger when they first came out and the gearbox back then was bloody awful. Probably the worst gearbox on any motorcycle, not built in Milwaukee 👎
....... Time for a new bike in the stable Chopsy?😁😁😁
Will need a bigger stable for one of these!! 🤣
And a bank loan. Don’t do it
Another great vid. Chopsy!! Your doing hard yards riding out in that ball contracting weather🥶. If you havent all ready, check out....driving 4 answers channel. Has awesome info on engine balancing etc. And other things like why have a cross plane crank engine and why cars dont adopt that tech. Any cheers ways mate and get warm cup of milky tea into you☕️😁.
Good tip Jason thanks 👍
gold wing will only turn the heads of old men
BMW K1600 B…..does the B stand for barge? 😂
Haha 😆👍
Behemoth, Bertha, brontosaurus…
For Chopsy and anyone interested in the engine balance of the inline 6, here's an excellent video: th-cam.com/video/82rxavW0A3c/w-d-xo.html
Perfect thanks 🙌
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We have a great selection of high tech European brand Motorcycles now. Japanese bikes are more than a bit dull now, and dare I say for people that always take the Safe option in life. Japanese bikes will soon be like their cars. Honda cars now hold 1.8% of Market share in UK, solely because the age group buying them are dying of. Sadly Gsxr now gone, fabulous fireblade next, all because of the S1000rr that makes all these other sports bikes pointless. same goes for all other bike segments, the only reason to buy Japanese now is price.
LMAO Are you for real?
It’s got nothing to do with the S1000RR, it’s because of emissions and Suzuki not willing to make the GSXR meet the very latest emissions rules.
@flamintasty Yes I am for real, and its nothing to due with Emmision. The Japanese three produce multiple more times the amount of bikes than European manufacturers, so it's less of a cost issue. I suppose all their cars that no one in Europe wants to Buy are Emmision cost issue as well. The fact is, they have been caught napping, as they have with their car brands. Reliability is not enough to justify purchasing them.
Well.. the problem with the K1600 in all it’s variations… is that it’s 95% the same bike it was 10 years ago…yes 10 years ago..mechanically, aside from the transmission recalls/upgrades… it’s 100% mechanically the same… sure the newer versions are loaded with electronic gimmicks and the huuuuuuge “no sale “ of the bagger version is the side cases are NOT REMOVABLE like in the GTL…unless you have tools and 30 minutes… oh and don’t forget , there are no handles …. Sure the TFT screen is cool, but the windscreen is worthless in all positions…”Gear Pro” another worthless gimmick like locking side cases, or keyless ignition….and of course the K1600 has ZERO soul, character or personality….all these let downs for $35k US…
And yes the engine is smooth as silk (adding to its lack of personality) but that annoying “gear whine” from the engine is all you hear, unless you whack the throttle and it’s then sounds like the overpriced German sewing machine that the K bike truly is….and don’t forget about the wind turbulence issue which has also been plaguing the K1600 since day one…instead of rectifying this issue the proper way by redesigning the fairings in a wind tunnel…Momma BMW did what ?….they have electronically limited the US version to @110mph….wow.. talk about cheaping out .. and of course the salesman told me that the speed limiter can be defeated via a ECU “tune” but it would completely void the warranty…. and of course , for those of you that live/ride in warmer climates….BMW has still yet to address the overheating issues….
Not a fan then Leon...
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I owned a 2015 GTL for @3 years… then the well documented world wide transmission issues arose, recall after recall , new hardened gears, shift forks… on and on… by 2018 and @30k miles.. I had enough of spending more time at the dealership then on the road.. so in January 2023 I test rode a 2023 K1600B….at my local BMW dealership… and as mentioned in prior post it’s the same G D bike from 10 years ago !…it shifted much smoother for sure, power was nice as always.. but at nearly $35k out the door, the latest K1600 is not worth it… a huge negative business model that Momma BMW has here in the US, is that EVERY BMW motorcycle, with the exception being absolute sales flop R18, arrives with every option….a price/feature conscious consumer will never find a “base” model in the US….
good review. I tried a 2023 K16 GTL and 2 things I didn't like 1: Bike stalls at startup ??? 160HP ?, I couldn't beleive that, you really have to rev it up. my 2019 FJR never did that and shift like butter
2: the clunky gear change in lower gears, sounded like trouble to come ... BUT WoW, what a nice bike once you're moving :)
tried the GW DCT and it will be my next bike.
I was considering one of these until I watched a long term test. After 20k miles , gearbox replaced, radiator replaced, electrical issues, reverse gear packed up. Another at 15k miles , shutting down while riding, electrical issues, reverse issues. I'll not be buying one
There was me thinking that it was going back because it is crap,silly me.
I had 2 K1600's for few years. yes, enjoyed them, yes fast machines, yes shift assist is wonderful, yes good looking bikes. But, be warn about issues with these engines as they get older. Not too many dealers in the USA and if you find one, always far away. Very hard to work on, sometimes dealers don't have parts in stock and you will need to wait. Labor is expensive !!!! The Grand America had issues pulling to the left a bit. High speeds rides next to or behind trucks, this bike suffers from dirty air bangs and you DO FEEL it. Plenty of electrical issues with the Bosch sensors. I will never own a K again. I gave BMW a change twice and done. Bought a new Goldwing DCT Tour and will never go back.
Goldwings are easier to ride. Anyone who would choose an automatic transmission, would not want a K1600
@@michaelalbert8474 I do wish Honda would provide a wing with shift assist like the K. Even as an option. The DCT is not for all. It is marvelous for me.
@@alp3781
They already do.
I’m happy you like the DCT, I just pointed out that your preference for the DCT is exactly why the K1600 isn’t for you. They are very different vehicles for very different people.
A straight six has perfect primary and secondary balance. An inline 3 also has perfect primary and secondary balance, but it has a rocker. The straight six balances this rocker by joining two three cylinder engines. It does make them relatively weak around the central bearing.
I've got a K1600GTL. The engine is fab, but as you've found out, easy to stall. You can really throw the bike around. The gearbox really lets the side down - awful, as is the shaft dive which is clunky. MSF has just done a review on it and was intimidated by the weight. I'm smaller than him and have no problems and I'm no hero rider, but then some people never get on with big heavy bikes.
In fact I found the seat too low, and when I raised it, the bike was far more comfortable.
Ah thanks David 👍
@@LambChopRides ....out of interest David have you taken a pillion on yours?
Alps yes
I think the commentary and honesty is great in these videos. I can watch them alongside working etc and learn something new each week! I would love a speed triple RS review (new model) maybe vs the new street triple or s1000r . Help me choose the next bike lol.
Keep up the great content 👏 👌
Thanks very much Mearl appreciated buddy! We will be doing a Street RS vs Speed RS comparison this summer 👍
I had a 2015 GTL. Then sold it for a Honda DCT. I missed the 1600 when ever I rode the bike like a sport tour. The GW is an easier passenger bike but the BMW humiliation campaign when I rode it with my buddies sport bikes was a triumph. It had many comments from riding buddies surprised to see me in their mirrors on back road jaunts. The confidence of the BMW is surprising. The GT is the one to get. Much more sporty.
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Did 200kmh in 4th gear at just over 7000 rpm.
The gold wing simply doesn’t come close to that.
Basically the gold wing for laidback cruising, the k1600 for anything spirited riding.
I’m 6’3 and find I get get shoulder burn due to the reach of the standard bar position on my private k1600GT but don’t on my RT(P)1250?
I have a 2012 and it took me a minute to get used to the clutch and twitchy throttle. It would be nice if the clutch increased idle a couple hundred rpm. Any throttle and engine wants to rev.
BMW have gone up shit creek in a barbwire canoe with this bike, but only when compared to the Goldwing - otherwise, it is very very good!
Great bike. But my transcontinental does everything it does, and has 2 pot character. Different strokes…
The definition of a fast bike is not that it will do a 100mph. It's how fast you get to a 100mph.
Great review Chops. I purchased this years Grand America, what a machine also if you do another comparison with the Goldwing this is the one to compare, your friend the flyer had concern about the weight, think this bike is more suited to taller riders
100%
Restricted to 103 mph 😢 what's the point
Bmw should build a Triumph Rocket style bike with this engine💯
They have with the new r20, a 2 litre boxer.
Not sure the could fit the 6 cylinder inline as the triple rocket does.
Be a challenge for the engineering team.
To the Alps Chopsy n Greg, Njoy, l know we will watching the video 🍻
That would be awesome wouldn't it! Or Monaco in a day!
You can get that motor in a T-rex .
I prefer to trade a dynamic suspension to a DCT in the Goldwing. Hopefully, one day BMW will get the DCT and the Goldwing the dynamic suspension...
Not convinced by the dct. Never tried it thought
@@Robert-xs2mv I have a Honda Rebel 1100 DCT, and this is very nice to use, particularly in town.
@@toldenfr I prefer vehicles with a clutch, that way I know the current generation can’t operate them
@@Robert-xs2mv no problem, it's everyone choice. I'm just saying that worth the test to enforce or not your opinion.
@@toldenfr I have driven cars with automatic transmission, did not like it at all.
Having to keep your foot on the brake at traffic lights to stop the car from taking off.
No downshifting using engine braking. No taking off having the wheels spinning, though eventually I figured out how to do so.
I bought a 2022 1250 R/T so far about 7,000 miles...the vibration through the handlebars is fairly strong I was a little surprised.
I had one did 5000 miles touring. Not bad bike but could never get the suspension comfy. Either to soft of harsh on our rubbish roads. Bit heavy two up. I guess it’s the result of chopping the rear down a bit. Could not get used to the clonking gearbox. That said great quality bike just not for me.
If you want a tourer, get a Goldwing, if you want a fast flickable bike get a sport bike and if you want an inbetweener get a R1250RT which combines all of these facets very nicely for the average guy. No one can question the quality build of the K1600 or the bullet proof engine, but the overall higher center of gravity on such a heavy bike just means it’s a question of when you drop it, not if.
You getting older there to chops🤓. Older you get you want comfort in everything if you can get it. Great touring machine,like wing and Harleys ,Indians etc 🍻😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦
I considered this bike as my tourer before buying Street Glide Special. Seems like any gear over 3rd would send you to jail. Additionally, the storage space in the bags are minimal and BMW had not sorted out their app. Great bike nonetheless.
Nice review Chops. Maybe the GT version would have been the better model to compare to the GoldWing.
I agree....
@@TheMissendenFlyer …if only there was a recent review on TH-cam to watch
So I ride a 2021 GSA and now watching you today I’m going to ask bmw for a weekend with one , brilliant vid great to hear you liking it
Go on Chopsy, buy one you know you want to you Dirty Bagger 😉! Definitely should take them and do The Grimsel Pass or similar, I’d watch that all day long!
People always underestimate weight of motor and trans, it’s most of the big weight so wouldn’t work easily as a naked albeit would make an interesting Rocket 3 alternative if they did 😅
Hi ,
I would like to ask you a question about BMW R1600B , I am 6,2 tall. Do you think, for the rider at this height, it would be not conceivable to ride this bike for long hours? Thanks in advance for your reply
Seat height is same as the K1600gt. I can ride mine for 4 hours before numb bum….but 6’3 tall I do get burning shoulders so set of risers advised.
You can get a higher seat
Hopefully this will cheer me up after Baron von whinge today.bless him.