No follow up? what could you possibly determine from running them all? The Castor will smoke and stink, All the others will have the same running characteristics. Not advised to run TC-W3 in air cooled machines.
Read the back of most TWC3 oil bottles and it says plain as day "can be used in both water amd air cooled engine such as chain saws, string trimmers and leaf blowers"
100LL is 100 octane Low Lead, not "Limited Lead." That said it actually does have a lot of lead compared to older leaded gas that we used to see at the pumps. Thanks for posting.
Castor oils are great for lubrication but don't mix easily with fuel and can separate. Tbey don't store well and are quite dirty leaving alot of carbon in the exhaust and piston crown. Other than that castor is good and has a great smell !
Do I need to disguard my Blendzall after it was left on the back porch over the winter. I used to run it 50;1 till my Redmax locked up and they refused to warranty it because I was using the Blendzall. I love the smell but can't keep buying a new weedeater / Trimmer
More oil religion. Everyone has their favorite brand and a colorful story to go with it. Any brand name oil with the right classifications is fine....any saw dealership is a good place to buy oil. My Dolmar saw is now 17 years old and still running fine...I have used a few different oil brands over the years.
Amsoil Saber is the cheapest and the best by far when mixed at 80 to 100:1. I run all of my Stihl 2-stroke equipment ranging from chainsaws to string trimers and even my Lawn-Boy 2-stroke lawnmower at 85:1 with no issues. The all have improved performance with no carbon or wear issues. No smoke too.
AzDadOnFire I don't. But have cut down some pretty big trees working all day long with this 85:1 mix ratio. My Stihl saws as probably yours specifies a 50:1 mix. The only reason I run 85:1 is that my Lawn Boy mower specifies a 32:1 mix of their brand of oil. Otherwise I would go to 100:1 on everything. I work on all of this stuff for a living and would have to say that carbon buildup in a 2-stroke engine is its number 1 killer as far as performance and longevity. I've pulled my stuff apart and checked for wear, carbon buildup, spark plug condition, piston/cylinder scoring, compression, the whole shebang with great results! Amsoil Saber is some truly good stuff and inexpensive if you use it to its full potential.
The Koltz Super Techniplate oils are so awesome, burn clean and smell awesome. Expensive, but for a chainsaw the price isn't too bad. When I had to buy it by the gallon and use it on a waverunner with a race engine years ago it was breaking the bank..lol
is "Super Tech full synthetic oil" good for Stihl saws ? (I use 6% ethanol 93 octane they sell at my local gas station) I add a little "Sta-Bil 360 performance fuel treatments and stabilizer"which si supposed to "protect against ethanol damage I also have a stihl hedge trimmer I use for chopping up grape vines in my 1 acres vineyard
KimballCody in order to make tcw3 “ashless” they remove the anti wear additives that a tc rated oil has. Those additives are what makes tc oil work in air cooled and high stress/heat applications. Tcw3 oil doesn’t need those additives because outboards generally run cool and pretty low rpm. The fact that it’s worked for you is likely due to how good two stroke oils are today regardless of their intended use.
Tell me now,I been running it for 30 years with no problems.The problem is everybody believes what the manufacturer tells them and everything they read. The proof is in the pudding.
Caution: Klotz super techniplate and some of their other racing type oils WILL NOT leave a protective film on piston and cylinder during storage. You must fog after use. They were designed for engines that get tore down and inspected regularly. Also: AV Gas 100LL has a MUCH lower specific gravity than regular auto gasoline. It WILL lean your engines way out. You must richen the jetting to proper settings to use it. Ran it in motorcycles and I have confirmed this with use. Heat will increase without jetting changes. You’re better off getting alcohol free 91 car gas if you can. Less hassle. People that claim TCW3 can be used all day long in saws and such probably DONT use their saws all day long, every day. And don’t forget…adding more oil to the mix will LEAN the fuel air ratio and increase heat. Don’t think 40:1 is better than 50:1. Manufacturers recommend mix ratios on equipment based on their choice of jetting. If you lean the air fuel ratio and increase heat the excess oil you’re adding will be burned off and offer less lubrication than what a person thinks. 2 cycle engines aren’t totally intuitive and more isn’t always better.
I know loggers who burn gallons of mix a day using tcw3. The whole "more oil makes it leaner" argument sounds nice in theory but I believe it fails when chainsaw carbs are in the equation. In a lab one can prove adding thicker fluid to gas causes it to "thicken" up and thus flow slower through jets, I doubt that the majority of saws are engineered precise enough to notice.
oh shit there you are. you replyed to one of my comments a couple of months back asking how i liked the 2 stroke chinese zenoah clone i bought. i was going to reply, life got in the way, and i couldn't find the comment any more. so to refresh, we got into on electric vs gas saws me being an electric guy. you were claiming chinese clones were good and cheap so i bought one well here is catching up: the g5200 clone, the dereal 5820g is pretty good and easy to start BUT....its simply way more saw than I needed. So i ordered another dereal pro saw the 2500s which is a g2500 clone. LOVE IT. i did have to tune the low side a bit when i got it but it runs fine starts in 4-6 pulls running 40:1 fuel. its my favorite saw. its a top handle 25cc with a 12 inch bar and its perfect for what I do which is mainly trim brush (brazillion pepper). then i loaned out my electric push mower and weed eater out to my boss (i bought a used snapper series 23 12.5 hp rear engine rider) and so i needed a weed whacker so i bought a wild badger 26cc string trimmer and brush cutter. had a problem with the 1st one (bad coil) they promptly replaced it and the replacement is fantastic. powerful, not too loud, starts in 2-4 pulls, i'm using vp racing 50/40:1 sef in it for the moment. then rural king had poulan hand held blowers for $58. i couldn't pass it up. i only use it for 2 minutes at a time so it will last forever. and finally dereal pro had their 4216H on sale for $100. its a g3800 clone, 42 cc 16 inch bar. i got that one too. so now I have 3 gas saws, a gas weed eater and a gas blower. all are working great so far. my buddy wounbd up buying a wild badger trimmer also after yet another ryobi 40v battery took a shit. still have the electrics and still use em. the other night it was 4 am, was taking the dogs out, and the plant next to my front door, a philodendron, was pissing me off and i used my 20v dewalt on it. but i do like my gas saws!
Does the Valvoline burn clean? I have a quart of it and would like to use it, but I don't want it to create carbon in the engine. I've been using Opti-2 at 71:1 but I just feel uneasy with that ratio.
My boss runs tcw-3 oil in the stihls at work and it kills them after 1 year. Low compression/ scored cylinders. Ms362c-m, ms250, ms460 all destroyed by the oil. And the boss wonders why all the shit doesn’t run worth a damn. Tuned properly and all maintenance done but the oil just wears them out way too fast. Ill never run tcw-3 trash in my saws.
We have switched to stihl hp oil and so far no more problems. One of the ms362c that im rebuilding for my boss. The wrist pin has gotten so hot that it turned purple. The tcw-3 does not provide protection at the high operating temp of the saws. We are professional loggers too. We burn 10+ gallons of 2 stroke mix per week.
@@re49991 Alex, if you get a chance try the Redline all-sport two stroke oil. Run it in my stock Husky 572 the last few years. Burns exceptionally clean, lubes wonderfully. I ran my two-stroke snowmobile over 10K miles on the sled oil, upon tear down everything was pristine. I had a failed water pump, I changed the pump and didnt touch the top end. My son now uses the sled for ice fishing trips. Runs like new. Tell your boss to pick his favorite saws, use this oil and his saws will last longer than he thought possible. Its expensive because its 100% synthetic oil including, ester synthetic, base stocks.
I don`t have any confidence in stihl since my ms 170 plugged a muffler screen in one season. Only used stihl oil and premium non-ethanol fuel. Bar oil is leaking out also due to oil line deterioration. Their prices are an insult to pay too.
Some 2 cycle oil's will contain fuel stabilizers in it. It's also recommended to add stabilize to fuel due to the low amount of stabilizer that is in some 2 cycle oil if you are storing your fuel for a while.
Where did you get the idea of running 100LL I saw you said it burnt up your saw with saber Would you say it’s safe for saws How long have you used it for?
Because back in the day there was no luxury of fancy 2 stroke oil we have today. The used 30 weight non detergent motor oil and you had to mix it heavy. Damn thing would smoke like a bastard. Don't think that you have to mix rich ratios like 16:1 or 19:1 with the good 2 stroke oil we have today.
Ya can't beat amsoil saber. I use in my chainsaws and by dirt bikes. Just can't beat saber, I can't get anough of it. And another good thing is that it covers all ratios and its fully synthetic
I've been using Saber at 65:1 in all my 2 stroke equipment, both Stihl & Husqvarna, for years (17+) without one single issue. I also use rec fuel (no ethanol) with Seafoam & Marine Stabil added to my mix. I use Amsoil in my cars, trucks, motorcycles & John Deere tractor too.
+Victor Gonzalez I thought one would stand out. Check out my milling video where I use a few different oils. I've come to the conclusion that at 40:1 mix nearly any modern oil will give you good results. Im even working on a theory that changing oils every 5 gallons or so will help prevent carbon buildup by introducing different solvents and oil bases to the engine. Just a theory and not really sure on how to test it
Use 5 different motors or just give one a serious cleaning. Then you can run a number of times at least two tanks and record performance results and see what the motors looks like in-between. I would a Stihl Pre-mix formula for a base line.
TC-W3 is for Water Cooled 2 cycle engines chainsaws are air cooled & run much hotter so you need a 2cycle oil that can withstand the extra heat you need a 2 cycle oil that meats JASO FC & Exceeds API TC most TC-W3 oil DO NOT !! I would NOT Run a TC-W3 oil unless it meets Jaso FC & exceeds API TC Specs ! Mobil 1 use to make a racing 2 cycle oil great stuff but hard to find in the states Lucas Makes a racing 2 cycle oil that is JASO FC & Exceeds API TC & is only $9.99 Quart or $4.99 16oz bottle can get at OReilly auto parts it burns really Clean Amsoil is good too most ACE hardware's carry it
I been running TCW3 wally world stuff for the last 30 years in my air cooled 2 stroke equipment,WOT all day long never had any issues with blown rings or seizures :)
Never run any 2 stroke leaner than 50:1 I dont care what kind of oil your using,these are machines with metal parts that need lubrication!!@@KimballCody
I use Marine two cycle TCW3 rated oil in my Jeep and Volvo at 1oz of oil per 5 gallons of gas. That's a 640/1 ratio. That is the formula no more. More is not good. Check out Google.com Sarge LS1 on Marine oil in cars. He is the guru of testing and has over 100,000 miles of testing with great results. Give it few tanks and decide for yourself. Better than Lucas fuel conditioner or Marvel Mystery Oil and a lot cheaper. It needs to be TCW3 rated. You will need a funnel and measure what you need. I use a small bottle before I hit the station.1oz 5 gallons 2 oz 10 gallons 3 oz 15 gallons etc.
+Arthur Smith I've been doing this with my three vehicles since you posted this and have seen excellent results. Better acceleration, compression seems strong, super quite idle. Easy starts. 1990 F250 2000 Toyota Sienna 2006 Hyundai Thanks for the suggestion
AzDadOnFire I've been doing this for well over a year now. The Volvo and Jeep run great. I just bought two more gallons today of Pennzoil XLF semi synthetic from Walmart $17.88 a gallon. It works great just 1oz oil per 5 gallons gas that's a 640/1 ratio. Stick to the formula a squirt more or less won't hurt but stick to the formula.
Its good to have a bit of top end lube for a 4 stroke,ran 2 cycle mix through 4 cycle mowers for years,they run awesome!!!! Just have to watch out for newer vehicles with certain sensors that might not like the extra soot,and cat systems.
No follow up? what could you possibly determine from running them all? The Castor will smoke and stink, All the others will have the same running characteristics. Not advised to run TC-W3 in air cooled machines.
Read the back of most TWC3 oil bottles and it says plain as day "can be used in both water amd air cooled engine such as chain saws, string trimmers and leaf blowers"
100LL is 100 octane Low Lead, not "Limited Lead." That said it actually does have a lot of lead compared to older leaded gas that we used to see at the pumps. Thanks for posting.
100LL sold in the last several years is actually 100ULL.
Castor oils are great for lubrication but don't mix easily with fuel and can separate. Tbey don't store well and are quite dirty leaving alot of carbon in the exhaust and piston crown. Other than that castor is good and has a great smell !
Do I need to disguard my Blendzall after it was left on the back porch over the winter. I used to run it 50;1 till my Redmax locked up and they refused to warranty it because I was using the Blendzall. I love the smell but can't keep buying a new weedeater / Trimmer
@@michaelha7 give the fuel and oil mix a bit of a shake and should be ok unless the fuel is stale
More oil religion. Everyone has their favorite brand and a colorful story to go with it. Any brand name oil with the right classifications is fine....any saw dealership is a good place to buy oil. My Dolmar saw is now 17 years old and still running fine...I have used a few different oil brands over the years.
I didnt know any better but have been running the Walmart Super Tech in my weed eater and chainsaw for years without any issues.
Amsoil Saber is the cheapest and the best by far when mixed at 80 to 100:1. I run all of my Stihl 2-stroke equipment ranging from chainsaws to string trimers and even my Lawn-Boy 2-stroke lawnmower at 85:1 with no issues. The all have improved performance with no carbon or wear issues. No smoke too.
AzDadOnFire I don't. But have cut down some pretty big trees working all day long with this 85:1 mix ratio. My Stihl saws as probably yours specifies a 50:1 mix. The only reason I run 85:1 is that my Lawn Boy mower specifies a 32:1 mix of their brand of oil. Otherwise I would go to 100:1 on everything. I work on all of this stuff for a living and would have to say that carbon buildup in a 2-stroke engine is its number 1 killer as far as performance and longevity. I've pulled my stuff apart and checked for wear, carbon buildup, spark plug condition, piston/cylinder scoring, compression, the whole shebang with great results! Amsoil Saber is some truly good stuff and inexpensive if you use it to its full potential.
amen
Tcw3 is alot better at 16:1 or similar with proper jetting. Its just gonna burn up at 40:1 and will lean out the mixture with 40:1 jets
Nice. I cant find a review of Super S 2 stroke oil full Synth
The Koltz Super Techniplate oils are so awesome, burn clean and smell awesome. Expensive, but for a chainsaw the price isn't too bad. When I had to buy it by the gallon and use it on a waverunner with a race engine years ago it was breaking the bank..lol
Hey what’s the best mix for a gallon of av and 2 stroke oil I do 32:1 92 pumped gas
Redline racing oil 40:1,try find gas without ethanol,I usually run purple boat has it costs the same as regular crap fuel
is "Super Tech full synthetic oil" good for Stihl saws ? (I use 6% ethanol 93 octane they sell at my local gas station) I add a little "Sta-Bil 360 performance fuel treatments and stabilizer"which si supposed to "protect against ethanol damage I also have a stihl hedge trimmer I use for chopping up grape vines in my 1 acres vineyard
Bel ray?
Don’t use tcw3 in air cooled 2 strokes. They run way hotter than the oil is designed for.
I've heard that. Haven't had any issues
KimballCody in order to make tcw3 “ashless” they remove the anti wear additives that a tc rated oil has. Those additives are what makes tc oil work in air cooled and high stress/heat applications. Tcw3 oil doesn’t need those additives because outboards generally run cool and pretty low rpm. The fact that it’s worked for you is likely due to how good two stroke oils are today regardless of their intended use.
KGA B78 think of it as an all season tire. Not good very good in the summer and not very good in the winter but will get you by.
Tell me now,I been running it for 30 years with no problems.The problem is everybody believes what the manufacturer tells them and everything they read.
The proof is in the pudding.
have you used that marine oil in a mix like 50 to 1 for a sthil chain saw will it work nice video
Why are they your favorites?
Can I use any 2 cycle full synthetic for my chainsaw
What was the point?
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Caution: Klotz super techniplate and some of their other racing type oils WILL NOT leave a protective film on piston and cylinder during storage. You must fog after use. They were designed for engines that get tore down and inspected regularly.
Also: AV Gas 100LL has a MUCH lower specific gravity than regular auto gasoline. It WILL lean your engines way out. You must richen the jetting to proper settings to use it. Ran it in motorcycles and I have confirmed this with use. Heat will increase without jetting changes. You’re better off getting alcohol free 91 car gas if you can. Less hassle.
People that claim TCW3 can be used all day long in saws and such probably DONT use their saws all day long, every day.
And don’t forget…adding more oil to the mix will LEAN the fuel air ratio and increase heat. Don’t think 40:1 is better than 50:1. Manufacturers recommend mix ratios on equipment based on their choice of jetting. If you lean the air fuel ratio and increase heat the excess oil you’re adding will be burned off and offer less lubrication than what a person thinks. 2 cycle engines aren’t totally intuitive and more isn’t always better.
I know loggers who burn gallons of mix a day using tcw3. The whole "more oil makes it leaner" argument sounds nice in theory but I believe it fails when chainsaw carbs are in the equation. In a lab one can prove adding thicker fluid to gas causes it to "thicken" up and thus flow slower through jets, I doubt that the majority of saws are engineered precise enough to notice.
Nice video!
Have you used Mobil 1 Racing 2T in your chainsaws?
Cristi Ro you got it right man👍
Do you have a follow up video for this? I could not find it.
I milled up some wood with it
@@KimballCody Must have been hard on the tire Haaa! Priorities.
It would be cool to see a test of lucas semi synthetic
oh shit there you are. you replyed to one of my comments a couple of months back asking how i liked the 2 stroke chinese zenoah clone i bought. i was going to reply, life got in the way, and i couldn't find the comment any more. so to refresh, we got into on electric vs gas saws me being an electric guy. you were claiming chinese clones were good and cheap so i bought one well here is catching up:
the g5200 clone, the dereal 5820g is pretty good and easy to start BUT....its simply way more saw than I needed. So i ordered another dereal pro saw the 2500s which is a g2500 clone. LOVE IT. i did have to tune the low side a bit when i got it but it runs fine starts in 4-6 pulls running 40:1 fuel. its my favorite saw. its a top handle 25cc with a 12 inch bar and its perfect for what I do which is mainly trim brush (brazillion pepper).
then i loaned out my electric push mower and weed eater out to my boss (i bought a used snapper series 23 12.5 hp rear engine rider) and so i needed a weed whacker so i bought a wild badger 26cc string trimmer and brush cutter. had a problem with the 1st one (bad coil) they promptly replaced it and the replacement is fantastic. powerful, not too loud, starts in 2-4 pulls, i'm using vp racing 50/40:1 sef in it for the moment.
then rural king had poulan hand held blowers for $58. i couldn't pass it up. i only use it for 2 minutes at a time so it will last forever.
and finally dereal pro had their 4216H on sale for $100. its a g3800 clone, 42 cc 16 inch bar. i got that one too.
so now I have 3 gas saws, a gas weed eater and a gas blower. all are working great so far. my buddy wounbd up buying a wild badger trimmer also after yet another ryobi 40v battery took a shit.
still have the electrics and still use em. the other night it was 4 am, was taking the dogs out, and the plant next to my front door, a philodendron, was pissing me off and i used my 20v dewalt on it. but i do like my gas saws!
@@MrSGL21 the electric works until time is money or you have alot of work for little home owners they are OK but gas stuff can do so much work
Where is the Pennzoil??
At Walmart
@@KimballCody I know!! but it won't in the video though
Does the Valvoline burn clean? I have a quart of it and would like to use it, but I don't want it to create carbon in the engine. I've been using Opti-2 at 71:1 but I just feel uneasy with that ratio.
+ChicagoSirens seems clean.
@@KimballCody oil mix 1:33 is ok?
What do you think of the supertech 2-cycle TC-W3 oil for chainsaws?
+Love2boat92 I've run a bunch of it at 40:1 without any problems. I know loggers who use gallons of the mix a week without any issues.
AzDadOnFire Glad to hear that. That's about what I mix the Chinese chainsaw at. Haven't had any problems so far using it.
man i have heard thats a No no from many people since its formulated for lower operating temp marine engines. and air cooled saws run much hotter?
ST make a full synthetic I have been using also,very good oil!!!
Love2boat92 stihl and husqvarna state in their manuals NEVER use tcw-3 or outboard engine oil
My boss runs tcw-3 oil in the stihls at work and it kills them after 1 year. Low compression/ scored cylinders. Ms362c-m, ms250, ms460 all destroyed by the oil. And the boss wonders why all the shit doesn’t run worth a damn. Tuned properly and all maintenance done but the oil just wears them out way too fast. Ill never run tcw-3 trash in my saws.
I know professional loggers who use it
We have switched to stihl hp oil and so far no more problems. One of the ms362c that im rebuilding for my boss. The wrist pin has gotten so hot that it turned purple. The tcw-3 does not provide protection at the high operating temp of the saws. We are professional loggers too. We burn 10+ gallons of 2 stroke mix per week.
@@re49991 Alex, if you get a chance try the Redline all-sport two stroke oil. Run it in my stock Husky 572 the last few years. Burns exceptionally clean, lubes wonderfully. I ran my two-stroke snowmobile over 10K miles on the sled oil, upon tear down everything was pristine. I had a failed water pump, I changed the pump and didnt touch the top end. My son now uses the sled for ice fishing trips. Runs like new. Tell your boss to pick his favorite saws, use this oil and his saws will last longer than he thought possible. Its expensive because its 100% synthetic oil including, ester synthetic, base stocks.
I use only Stihl oil mixture.
+Human omni makes a good oil for stihl
I don`t have any confidence in stihl since my ms 170 plugged a muffler screen in one season. Only used stihl oil and premium non-ethanol fuel. Bar oil is leaking out also due to oil line deterioration. Their prices are an insult to pay too.
I've seen one saw seize up on the Stihl oil..it was years ago but I think it's just another snake oil.
2sheets to the wind throw that screen in the trash..over the last 30 years first thing I do is remove that restrictor plate bullshit spark arrestor.
Is 2 cycle oil a stabilizer? Seems like my mixed gas stays very stabile!
Some 2 cycle oil's will contain fuel stabilizers in it. It's also recommended to add stabilize to fuel due to the low amount of stabilizer that is in some 2 cycle oil if you are storing your fuel for a while.
Where did you get the idea of running 100LL
I saw you said it burnt up your saw with saber
Would you say it’s safe for saws
How long have you used it for?
It was pump gas and saber that burnt it up
For what it’s worth, many aircraft owners have moved from 100LL to mogas..
Maybe in kit or experimental but Not in conventional planes
KimballCody There are plenty of guys running non-ethanol mogas in certified aircraft.
@@KimballCody oil mix 1:33 is ok?
Why cannot an old Poulan saw run on 50 to 1 mixture? Manual says 19 to 1.
JoeB
Oil is way better then before older oils had to be mixed closer to 20/1 new oil is way better so 50/1 would be okay in my opinion...
@@kdog01100 wrong
Because back in the day there was no luxury of fancy 2 stroke oil we have today. The used 30 weight non detergent motor oil and you had to mix it heavy. Damn thing would smoke like a bastard. Don't think that you have to mix rich ratios like 16:1 or 19:1 with the good 2 stroke oil we have today.
@@nothanks2994 go fuck yourself. You don't have a single God damn clue what the fuck you're talking about, so shut the fuck up
Ya can't beat amsoil saber. I use in my chainsaws and by dirt bikes. Just can't beat saber, I can't get anough of it. And another good thing is that it covers all ratios and its fully synthetic
I burned up my 880 milling with Saber. Amsoil denied my claim
@@KimballCody are what ratio?
@@KimballCody damn...that sucks. You should make a video about what happened and them denying your claim?
I've been using Saber at 65:1 in all my 2 stroke equipment, both Stihl & Husqvarna, for years (17+) without one single issue. I also use rec fuel (no ethanol) with Seafoam & Marine Stabil added to my mix. I use Amsoil in my cars, trucks, motorcycles & John Deere tractor too.
Follow up video? Results? Thanks
+MedjOOL Maker coming soon
+MedjOOL Maker I just posted one.
Soooo what is the favorite??
Amsoil
Husqvarna owns Poulan Pro and weed eater
+justin knuebel yes it does
So on your opinion, whats is the best oil mix for chainsaws?
+Victor Gonzalez I thought one would stand out. Check out my milling video where I use a few different oils. I've come to the conclusion that at 40:1 mix nearly any modern oil will give you good results. Im even working on a theory that changing oils every 5 gallons or so will help prevent carbon buildup by introducing different solvents and oil bases to the engine.
Just a theory and not really sure on how to test it
Use 5 different motors or just give one a serious cleaning. Then you can run a number of times at least two tanks and record performance results and see what the motors looks like in-between. I would a Stihl Pre-mix formula for a base line.
TC-W3 is for Water Cooled 2 cycle engines chainsaws are air cooled & run much hotter so you need a 2cycle oil that can withstand the extra heat you need a 2 cycle oil that meats JASO FC & Exceeds API TC most TC-W3 oil DO NOT !! I would NOT Run a TC-W3 oil unless it meets Jaso FC & exceeds API TC Specs ! Mobil 1 use to make a racing 2 cycle oil great stuff but hard to find in the states Lucas Makes a racing 2 cycle oil that is JASO FC & Exceeds API TC & is only $9.99 Quart or $4.99 16oz bottle can get at OReilly auto parts it burns really Clean Amsoil is good too most ACE hardware's carry it
+218Bee mod43win I've never had any problems with it when milling.
My buddy, who is a logger uses it also.....5 gallons a week.
I been running TCW3 wally world stuff for the last 30 years in my air cooled 2 stroke equipment,WOT all day long never had any issues with blown rings or seizures :)
how did the saber mix with low lead fuel?
Seemed good at the time. It has since burned up my 880
Never run any 2 stroke leaner than 50:1 I dont care what kind of oil your using,these are machines with metal parts that need lubrication!!@@KimballCody
I use any cycle oil what ever is there when i go into a store
+Carlos Coy I've come to the conclusion that the majority of modern 2 cycle oils mixed 40:1 are adequate for modern saws
I use Marine two cycle TCW3 rated oil in my Jeep and Volvo at 1oz of oil per 5 gallons of gas. That's a 640/1 ratio. That is the formula no more. More is not good. Check out Google.com Sarge LS1 on Marine oil in cars. He is the guru of testing and has over 100,000 miles of testing with great results. Give it few tanks and decide for yourself. Better than Lucas fuel conditioner or Marvel Mystery Oil and a lot cheaper. It needs to be TCW3 rated. You will need a funnel and measure what you need. I use a small bottle before I hit the station.1oz 5 gallons 2 oz 10 gallons 3 oz 15 gallons etc.
+Arthur Smith I've been doing this with my three vehicles since you posted this and have seen excellent results. Better acceleration, compression seems strong, super quite idle. Easy starts.
1990 F250
2000 Toyota Sienna
2006 Hyundai
Thanks for the suggestion
AzDadOnFire I've been doing this for well over a year now. The Volvo and Jeep run great. I just bought two more gallons today of Pennzoil XLF semi synthetic from Walmart $17.88 a gallon. It works great just 1oz oil per 5 gallons gas that's a 640/1 ratio. Stick to the formula a squirt more or less won't hurt but stick to the formula.
Its good to have a bit of top end lube for a 4 stroke,ran 2 cycle mix through 4 cycle mowers for years,they run awesome!!!! Just have to watch out for newer vehicles with certain sensors that might not like the extra soot,and cat systems.
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