Diane I definitely am going to remember that statement when I take my green horse on his first trail ride. I have ponied him on the trails twice for six miles. Two motorcycles came down a dirt road close to us and they didn’t bother him.
I wished my horse would remember the lessons and conclusions of last year: cows are no big deal. Every springtime when cows show up again we start from the beginning.
Thank you for posting this! My horse is terrified of cows and this is so damn helpful. I was letting him stand and look, worse thing i could have done because then when the cows face him, he runs. Thank you again, I have learnt so much
She did so well, it is incredibly difficult to not react yourself when you’re expecting a spook, she’s done really well, loved the bit where he walked right up to the cow’s butt 👍.Great video.
My TB is just like this….found out he was TERRIFIED of the feed bag that you suggested using for desensitizing. At the end of three days I could throw it over his back. We have moose on our place that don’t just stand there like the cows do …that’ll be his biggest challenge but getting him to accept that feedbag was a big step in the right direction.
They're not uncommon. Back in the 1980s my alfalfa grower bought TBs off the track and trained them as team penning horses. Contrary to what many believe, "foundation" quarter horses descended from TBs, too. Just like QHs and other breeds, some have more cowiness than others.
@@Growmap One of my best cow ponies years ago was a thoroughbred. That’s why it pleased me to see Cowboy conquer his fear and show some willingness to be working the cattle.
@@topcatwarrior I started in AQHA, then quickly switched to Thoroughbreds because in the late 1970s it was hard to even break even running QHs. Moved to Texas when we thought racing would take off there. Bred TBs for a while, but stopped in 2000 except to get replacements for my last 20+ TBs by crossing them with Hancock/Blue Valentine QHs. I honestly don't recommend most TBs for general riding because they do cost more to keep and have more hoof issues. And the bigger and more racebred they are, the more they can cost. My TB/QH cross gets fat on way less. My QH/TB cross needs a little more. But the pure TBs eat way more and don't get fat.
This sweet horse has know idea how fortunate he is to have this whole group of humans (the best is the best) rally around for him for support. What an awesome video & a life changing point in time for horse & human alike! Well done Kelly! 👏🎉🙌 Ryan, thanks for sharing more videos with Doug. I really enjoyed the first one with him. I had never heard of him before your introduction.
So good to see Doug take the time with this horse and rider, such a great result. My daughter took her horse to a clinic and they were thrown in the deep end, a pen with a cow that ran at the horse, was a disaster 🤦♀️ Everyone said all these things about how the horse wasn’t going to handle cows. Took him to someone else, who had much more tact and took their time. The horse is fine with cows.
Man that was a good video! I guess I have never been on or seen a horse that was afraid of cattle. Our horses were always around our cattle and didn't take any bull...see what I did there?😂😂😂. Anyway, this was a really good video for me!😊
Had a Thorobred that was the same way. Never got him past it. Back when no internet. Dang, he was a great horse. Dressage and gaming. No team penning. A lot of lungeing before we tried.
Great work! Enjoyed watching the horse and rider approach and maneuver to give the horse confidence. He ended up looking like he just might be very good at working cattle ......a very good looking horse! Nice to see his expression change as he gained confidence!!
Oh, Thoroughbreds..... My first thoroughbred hated passing a pasture that had buffalos in it. This guy really has those racing fetlocks and front tendons. P.S. She should have kept her helmet on.
Awesome video. I have the same problem with my horse - both a former one and the current one. We don't have cattle and they seem to fear them. I watched with interest in the hopes of helping my current riding horse cope better. Never got the former one over it even with the trainer and purchasing steers for a year.
Fantastic job fantastic timing and guidance. I have a mare who will be meeting cows in a controlled situation in October and this shows me to have faith. Thank you to all! 👍🏻🏆
Wow nice team work guys. But to the rider .. your an awesome person helping this horse through this. I had a thoroughbred on our farm lol... he was afraid of many things. Beautiful video guy's
It isn't so much that TBs are more afraid as we've bred them for a much higher flight response. They are usually more reactive. I feel like if she let her stirrups down a bit that would be better. But maybe she likes them that short?
Great training sessions, so much progress in such a short amount of time. It really warms my heart to see horses coming over their fear of something by trusting us. All about timing, the right amount of exposure and a looot of love and praise.
A great instructional video. That horse tried so hard to please. He got over his fear with the help of a great instructor. I once had a horse that would work any kind of cow, both in training and competition. However he was afraid of grey or white cows and would freak out when he saw them. I still don’t know why, but it took me a long time to correct it. Luckily this colour cow doesn’t crop up often in competition. Great video, and cheers from Australia 🇦🇺!
Had a horse that was terrified of cattle. She would just bolt if she saw any even if they were a distance away in a field. Borrowed a pet cow put them both in a horse box, took them for a ride and she was way more accepting of cattle. Another horse another time wasn’t terrified but very wary of cattle. I was asked by a farmer to ride down a field and drive his dry dairy cows up to the road. By the time I got to the bottom of the field he was in a muck swear but, as soon as he realised the cows were more afraid of him, by them moving away when he approached, he relaxed and was confident in not being a racehorse but a cow pony!
What a good good boy 😊He’s certainly got a lot of try, and the rider is very soft, sensitive, and focused. I must say though, with those long legs, he’s not going to win any sorting competitions!😂♥️😊
Awesome video! I love the explanation of keeping him moving to burn his excess energy, rather than tiring him out. And the tip on moving him away after he’s relaxed, before he decides to move himself.
Good coaching “pet on him” was a good way of making sure she gave him the release when he was gaining on the cow an not hanging in his mouth more work on her timing an progress would of been x2
I know this is a late comment, but my best friend experienced this with her mare. Finnegan was good with cows BUT she flipped out over white cows while my friend was trail riding her. She literally took off like a maniac. Finnegan did not like GHOST Cows as my friend said. Now Finnegan was over 12 years old at that time. Her rider was an experienced rider and riding teacher. The horse was ridden in dressage and was jumped too. My friend could turn her loose in an arena and just take her through her paces verbally. The trust between rider and horse was incredible to see. I had ridden her too before. Always sweet and steady, except for ghost cows which she never got over no matter what my friend tried. Ghost cows were right out! Trail rides had to avoid where those cows were for the rest of Finnegan's life at age 26.
My ott was like that until he worked out that he was bigger than them and could make the cows move himself. I was able to go out bareback with a bitless hackamore and him and i would bring the bulls in before the cows
I just saw a British lady get tossed off her horse after cussing at him and yelling at him when he refused to walk by cows. It was hilarious because I had no idea horses were scared of cows 😂😂😂😂
noticed how the horse isn't actually trained, but people are introduced to the way a horse thinks. Look at what posture Ryan or Dough sit with on the horse. And I see the correct musculature of these horses in comparison. the exact instructions as to when and how the rider should relax. When to go where, when to leave again, It certainly enabled the two of them to do more and strengthened their bond with each other than just the cow topic
Very nice TB can tell someone put alot of time into him what a huge change day 2 ! I love when horses realize hey I can make them move them it's fun 😀 ! Great video with Doug
ROFL ... he's intensely curious but also very worried they are dangerous. The cutting horses are also tightly focused on the cows, but calmly waiting for the signal to go chase them. Cutting horses are bullies.
Awsome to watch. I've done a couple cow working days with my horse and my spooky little mule. Oh boy ! The cows even creep me out when they stop, pee and stare at you. Haaaa. We all gained some confidence for sure. I love the one on one with a large space . I bet that was really helpful for starts.
I have one of these too! He is a TB cross, and terrified of cows! Alos his ears have bad aural plaque which my vet and I are working on to get hopefully make bridling less of an issue for him
The horse I ride currently doesn't seem to care one way or another about cows. He's been in a pasture that shares a fence with a cattle farmer for a couple months and would hang out near the herd when he could. BUT he is scared of calves lol. Not as bad as the horse here, I can still work him around calves, but he'll start snorting and watching them if they are within 20 feet or so
I had an otherwise very dominant and fearless thoroughbred who would react like this to alpacas, and only alpacas and an ex-police horse who could handle dogs, large trucks, fireworks and flapping sheets of plastic but was terrified of sheep and small children (which was what got him thrown out of the police force)
Thanks for Watching! If you would to see more videos of Doug go check out his TH-cam channel! Jordan Oaks Ranch
I’m not able to find his channel?
@@KingsMom831 there's a link in the depescription if your still having trouble.
youtube.com/@Jordanoaksranch
@@bigbird091 Thanks, I could not see the link when this video first uploaded. It’s available to me now though.
@@bigbird091 It looks like he hasn’t uploaded any videos but at least I found this channel!
Really like the statement "just because he's scared doesn't mean he's in charge."
Diane
I definitely am going to remember that statement when I take my green horse on his first trail ride. I have ponied him on the trails twice for six miles. Two motorcycles came down a dirt road close to us and they didn’t bother him.
Once a horse learns they can move a cow, they learn it's fun.
Haha, yeah probably a bit of an ego boost, the horse gets to push around a bunch of critters LOL!
I have actually heard about English dressage riders letting their horses "bully" calves from time to time just to boost the confidence of their horses
I wished my horse would remember the lessons and conclusions of last year: cows are no big deal. Every springtime when cows show up again we start from the beginning.
Absolutely! My horse was an OTTB who had a bucking issue until we began cutting cows on him!
I love how you can just hear the enthusiasm with Doug’s little chuckle. He’s such a great teacher.
What a change and no forcing the horse. By the final day he was a different horse.
Thank you for posting this! My horse is terrified of cows and this is so damn helpful. I was letting him stand and look, worse thing i could have done because then when the cows face him, he runs. Thank you again, I have learnt so much
That horse worked so hard to get over it's fear of that cow. Amazing training video.
She did so well, it is incredibly difficult to not react yourself when you’re expecting a spook, she’s done really well, loved the bit where he walked right up to the cow’s butt 👍.Great video.
My TB is just like this….found out he was TERRIFIED of the feed bag that you suggested using for desensitizing. At the end of three days I could throw it over his back. We have moose on our place that don’t just stand there like the cows do …that’ll be his biggest challenge but getting him to accept that feedbag was a big step in the right direction.
From deathly afraid to herding them in a few days. Beautiful
A thoroughbred cow pony, I love it! Great teacher, great student and beautiful horse, I just adore a happy ending.👏😂
They're not uncommon. Back in the 1980s my alfalfa grower bought TBs off the track and trained them as team penning horses. Contrary to what many believe, "foundation" quarter horses descended from TBs, too. Just like QHs and other breeds, some have more cowiness than others.
@@Growmap One of my best cow ponies years ago was a thoroughbred. That’s why it pleased me to see Cowboy conquer his fear and show some willingness to be working the cattle.
@@topcatwarrior I started in AQHA, then quickly switched to Thoroughbreds because in the late 1970s it was hard to even break even running QHs. Moved to Texas when we thought racing would take off there. Bred TBs for a while, but stopped in 2000 except to get replacements for my last 20+ TBs by crossing them with Hancock/Blue Valentine QHs.
I honestly don't recommend most TBs for general riding because they do cost more to keep and have more hoof issues. And the bigger and more racebred they are, the more they can cost. My TB/QH cross gets fat on way less. My QH/TB cross needs a little more. But the pure TBs eat way more and don't get fat.
@@GrowmapI did cutting on my OTTB and he loved it!
This sweet horse has know idea how fortunate he is to have this whole group of humans (the best is the best) rally around for him for support.
What an awesome video & a life changing point in time for horse & human alike!
Well done Kelly! 👏🎉🙌
Ryan, thanks for sharing more videos with Doug. I really enjoyed the first one with him. I had never heard of him before your introduction.
What a change! Nice riding cowgirl 🤠
Kudos to Kelly. Great work. I love her empathy with horsey. Awesome. Kelly!😊
Love this guy and his people. Thank you Ryan for making this video to show how to understand the horses language.
So good to see Doug take the time with this horse and rider, such a great result. My daughter took her horse to a clinic and they were thrown in the deep end, a pen with a cow that ran at the horse, was a disaster 🤦♀️ Everyone said all these things about how the horse wasn’t going to handle cows. Took him to someone else, who had much more tact and took their time. The horse is fine with cows.
Great video - excellent trainer - brave girl - sweet cow and brave horse! Best regards from Norway!
Man that was a good video! I guess I have never been on or seen a horse that was afraid of cattle. Our horses were always around our cattle and didn't take any bull...see what I did there?😂😂😂. Anyway, this was a really good video for me!😊
Agree and was surprised when he said they were hoping to work cattle with him. That horse did not seem to feel it
I usually just feed the horse with the cows and that helps end the dilemma. But I have cows. thanks
LOVED watching the confidence and then the curiosity developed. Great video of slow and right helping the horse find his groove with the herd.
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
Ryan, this reminds me of my thoroughbred and the peacocks
Had a Thorobred that was the same way. Never got him past it. Back when no internet. Dang, he was a great horse. Dressage and gaming. No team penning. A lot of lungeing before we tried.
Good job, took guts to be on that horse
Lovely horse with a beautiful kind rider. So glad he was able to gain some confidence
I love to watch a horse learn and learn to not afraid.
Great work! Enjoyed watching the horse and rider approach and maneuver to give the horse confidence. He ended up looking like he just might be very good at working cattle ......a very good looking horse! Nice to see his expression change as he gained confidence!!
Oh, Thoroughbreds..... My first thoroughbred hated passing a pasture that had buffalos in it. This guy really has those racing fetlocks and front tendons. P.S. She should have kept her helmet on.
Awesome job. He looked like he wanted to mooooove those cows on out of there!
My favorite parts are when Doug laughs in delight at the progress.
Awesome video. I have the same problem with my horse - both a former one and the current one. We don't have cattle and they seem to fear them. I watched with interest in the hopes of helping my current riding horse cope better. Never got the former one over it even with the trainer and purchasing steers for a year.
What a kind, knowledgeable teacher!
Fantastic job fantastic timing and guidance. I have a mare who will be meeting cows in a controlled situation in October and this shows me to have faith. Thank you to all! 👍🏻🏆
Let us know how it goes!
Wow nice team work guys. But to the rider .. your an awesome person helping this horse through this. I had a thoroughbred on our farm lol... he was afraid of many things. Beautiful video guy's
It isn't so much that TBs are more afraid as we've bred them for a much higher flight response. They are usually more reactive. I feel like if she let her stirrups down a bit that would be better. But maybe she likes them that short?
Bravo...horse, rider and all who helped this horse to get over his fear. You all helped him mightily!!
Great training sessions, so much progress in such a short amount of time. It really warms my heart to see horses coming over their fear of something by trusting us. All about timing, the right amount of exposure and a looot of love and praise.
Great video lovely rider
Awesome. She did a great job!
Great video! Horsy made a lot of new friends 😂
A great instructional video. That horse tried so hard to please. He got over his fear with the help of a great instructor. I once had a horse that would work any kind of cow, both in training and competition. However he was afraid of grey or white cows and would freak out when he saw them. I still don’t know why, but it took me a long time to correct it. Luckily this colour cow doesn’t crop up often in competition. Great video, and cheers from Australia 🇦🇺!
Had a horse that was terrified of cattle. She would just bolt if she saw any even if they were a distance away in a field. Borrowed a pet cow put them both in a horse box, took them for a ride and she was way more accepting of cattle.
Another horse another time wasn’t terrified but very wary of cattle. I was asked by a farmer to ride down a field and drive his dry dairy cows up to the road. By the time I got to the bottom of the field he was in a muck swear but, as soon as he realised the cows were more afraid of him, by them moving away when he approached, he relaxed and was confident in not being a racehorse but a cow pony!
Very well done! Good Coach and Coachies.
Demonstrated here is Patience, Understanding and Empathy for the horse.
that was awesome, what you all did for him!
This was a great learning tool. Good job!!
What a good good boy 😊He’s certainly got a lot of try, and the rider is very soft, sensitive, and focused. I must say though, with those long legs, he’s not going to win any sorting competitions!😂♥️😊
Great video Ryan lots of learning. Thank you for sharing.
I love this video! I feel like I could cut without any horsemanship!🤣🤣
Kidding
That was great! I really appreciated Doug’s comments. Will be a great help in a ton of situations. Great video!!😀
You never know - that TBH may actually become a great cow horse.
Very nicely done..he want from fear to confidence...from one cow..to several...
Excellent video!! Way to go Kelly! Loved the enthusiasm from Doug Jordan too!
Awesome video! I love the explanation of keeping him moving to burn his excess energy, rather than tiring him out. And the tip on moving him away after he’s relaxed, before he decides to move himself.
Good coaching “pet on him” was a good way of making sure she gave him the release when he was gaining on the cow an not hanging in his mouth more work on her timing an progress would of been x2
"....jus bcuz he's afraid, doesn't mean he's in charge..."
I know this is a late comment, but my best friend experienced this with her mare.
Finnegan was good with cows BUT she flipped out over white cows while my friend was trail riding her. She literally took off like a maniac. Finnegan did not like GHOST Cows as my friend said.
Now Finnegan was over 12 years old at that time. Her rider was an experienced rider and riding teacher. The horse was ridden in dressage and was jumped too.
My friend could turn her loose in an arena and just take her through her paces verbally. The trust between rider and horse was incredible to see. I had ridden her too before.
Always sweet and steady, except for ghost cows which she never got over no matter what my friend tried. Ghost cows were right out! Trail rides had to avoid where those cows were for the rest of Finnegan's life at age 26.
My ott was like that until he worked out that he was bigger than them and could make the cows move himself. I was able to go out bareback with a bitless hackamore and him and i would bring the bulls in before the cows
I loved bare back and grew up using a hackamore on my mother’s old barrel horse
Awesome!
Nice side passes!
I just saw a British lady get tossed off her horse after cussing at him and yelling at him when he refused to walk by cows. It was hilarious because I had no idea horses were scared of cows 😂😂😂😂
This reminds me why I love working with horses! 😀
great video, so good to see building up exposure
what a change! so nice to see
noticed how the horse isn't actually trained, but people are introduced to the way a horse thinks. Look at what posture Ryan or Dough sit with on the horse.
And I see the correct musculature of these horses in comparison.
the exact instructions as to when and how the rider should relax.
When to go where, when to leave again,
It certainly enabled the two of them to do more and strengthened their bond with each other than just the cow topic
I really Love this video, how mesmerizing ❤!!
LOVE the video! Man, I would love to learn to cut cattle ! *.*
Well done.
Nice work guys 👍
Wow! Amazing.
LOL! Teaching the horse that he can boss around cows. The rider, in my opinion, really needs to learn to reduce the amount of reign contact.
thats so much knowledge from the senior gentleman there
Very nice TB can tell someone put alot of time into him what a huge change day 2 ! I love when horses realize hey I can make them move them it's fun 😀 ! Great video with Doug
Best channel ever ❤
That was great to watch
ROFL ... he's intensely curious but also very worried they are dangerous.
The cutting horses are also tightly focused on the cows, but calmly waiting for the signal to go chase them. Cutting horses are bullies.
Pressure and re,ease GOOD!!!👍
I think I had as much fun watching as Kelly and Cowboy did 😂
Was that an Atwood Ranch horse Doug was on? Great video. I would love to do one of those clinics.
I probably would have taken the lazy way out and put him in a good, secure pasture with a few calves and let him figure it out for himself.
Awsome to watch. I've done a couple cow working days with my horse and my spooky little mule. Oh boy ! The cows even creep me out when they stop, pee and stare at you. Haaaa. We all gained some confidence for sure. I love the one on one with a large space . I bet that was really helpful for starts.
Great video!
Great rider!❤
Wow, that was so awesome. What a great teacher.
Ugh not me watching this feeling bad for the cow 😂 but this is a great lesson to help me deal w any kind of scary thing. Great instruction!!
I have one of these too! He is a TB cross, and terrified of cows! Alos his ears have bad aural plaque which my vet and I are working on to get hopefully make bridling less of an issue for him
Awesome 🤩
That was cool!!! Very nice horse and he has an excellent rider.
I just love this video so much!! Awesome job!!
Me personally agree with him. I’m also scared of cows. :) Love horses though!
Great video. Doug has a lot of feel 😉
Little calve so worried about this..........
she's always fighting him..
Bravo!
Remarkable! Well done!
He will be a Cut’n horse before ya know it!
Great stuff!!!!
That was cool.
The horse I ride currently doesn't seem to care one way or another about cows. He's been in a pasture that shares a fence with a cattle farmer for a couple months and would hang out near the herd when he could.
BUT he is scared of calves lol. Not as bad as the horse here, I can still work him around calves, but he'll start snorting and watching them if they are within 20 feet or so
omg, love it.
I had an otherwise very dominant and fearless thoroughbred who would react like this to alpacas, and only alpacas and an ex-police horse who could handle dogs, large trucks, fireworks and flapping sheets of plastic but was terrified of sheep and small children (which was what got him thrown out of the police force)