Thanks for watching this series! There will a follow up on this when Jasper gets a little further along with his new owner. If you’d like to support this channel please consider joining my patreon page. Www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship
My horse paws when I saddle him. I've tried several things with little success. I know he's is just inpatient and wants to go out for a ride. He's perfect once he's saddled. Any suggestions?
I'm so glad you were honest and advised her on this lovely horse as I would have, so many trainers keep their mouth shut even though they know a horse is not suitable for their client. You have my attention now to keep watching your channel thanks
Thanks Ryan for being so honest and forthright with this owner. My grandfather (a Studmaster) also told me "There's nothing safe about playing around with horses." We must manage the safety element and accept that some horse are not for us. Clare from Australia
I have so much respect for her to be able to recognize she needed to let go, and even more for you for seeing her emotional pain and addressing that with sensitivity and compassion. These decisions are never easy, but you are obviously both true horse people and know what is best for horse and rider. Super impressed and a bit verklempt!
I have a horse same way. I knew she was but the people that sold her in pilot point tx said she was a trail horse. She ended up bucking even after she was sedated for having her teeth done. That women knew she was going to buck and didnt care if I got hurt. Then she wanted to trade back I'm sure for a lower quality horse. What a scam. Be careful when buying a horse Some people don't care about their reputations when money is involved. Try them and go try them again
I am a trainer for 58 years and very opinionated about horse related advice offered by other trainers. I usually have a lot of negative opinions. My opinion about this guy's horsemanship and advice is that he is mature, intelligent and a great friend of the horse. Also knows how to speak to owners with kindness and truth. Excellent horseman! I LOVE this guy!
Me too 64years riding training Breeding and teaching.. But still love learning more ..this guys work is genuine and rock solid full of common sense empathy for the horse and owner ..totally recommend using his methods...👌🐎♥️
Ryan, I have always thought highly of you but I really appreciate your straightforward approach when explaining to the owner why this horse might not be the best match for her at this moment in time. You are always so diplomatic🙏😊
Oh Ryan, what a great teaching video. You are as as kind and considerate and clear with humans as you are with the horses. And although Jasper is moving on, it's been such a learning opportunity for his owner, and for us - your on-line *students*. You are so generous with your knowledge and experience, and we appreciate it, man 🙏
Head up = Adrenalin & Cortisol (not desirable) Head down = Dopamine & Serotonin (what we want) along with hindquarter disengagement is what we need to teach relaxation. Excellent video!!!
I’m so so glad you advised her to not keep this horse. She made a mistake. And let’s hope she don’t make another one. She may be hurt forever with that bucking and she’s an experienced rider. Thank you for being up front , doing the work you did with him, and helping her move on. Great Job. 🥰💕👍
Yes! I lived watching this video because I learned what the signs of heightened stress are in a horse who is not ready to be ridden yet. Thank you! This owner has so much courage. She should never feel down on herself or having "failed" in any way for not being a match with Jasper. She did nothing wrong... The horse did nothing wrong. It was very good that, because of her honesty & love, that they can both start with a clean slate & heal. A totally new rider will help this horse recover & do well. A more-well-matched mount will give the owner confidence & joy in bonding with a horse she can trust 100%. God bless you all!
This series is probably the best of all Ryan's videos that I've watched. A real life situation and a realistic way to handle it. Ryan is identifying issues with this horse that probably few people (even trainers) are capable of picking up on. I hope that Jasper's progress under a new owner doesn't skip anything important. I hope there isn't a gap, I mean. Great work.
Such solid advice to the owner. I got bucked off and broke my back in 2017. I could NOT ride that horse again. I retired her and I got another much more relaxed youngster and started her myself and was able to ride safely again. PTSD is a real thing fir us riders and you can't fake it with a horse...ever. Jennifer you will ride again and feel ok about it. I was so empathizing with the brace...was there! ❤ Ryan you really were there fir her.
I appreciate Ryan’s videos because even though they are a bit long, they give you a better sense that fixing a horse is a process that takes time and effort and doesn’t come automagically, this is more honest and a better learning experience than other folks in TH-cam.
I went through this exact same situation for 10 years. I finally swallowed my pride and bought a new horse. I couldn't be any happier. I now have my horse life back after 10 long and emotionally draining years. Great advice for her. So glad she listened! Great series watching Jasper!
I'm led you made the right decision too Chris. Sometimes even professional trainers hit that wall with a horse. Once a horse has done some scary things, everybody thinks about them if they get back on that horse.
@@chrisp7548 No .. There's no such thing as an unfixable horse .. You didn't know what you were doing, and the trainers you went to didn't know what they were doing .. It's sad you got rid of the horse .. There's no problem horses, only problem riders ..
Great video. I watched all 3 when they were posted. Very clear that even with Ryan's expert handling, this horse was not comfortable or relaxed about saddling, let alone being ridden even in a safe sand arena. Imagine him with his owner, a less experienced person, out on a trail ride. Its such a shame his previous owners sold him as suitable for trail riding, when he was a ticking time bomb
Ryan，do you think because this horse is dominant one? I have a curly horse very dominant, hard to ride, but he is very good for my herd, he is always keep an eye on all his herd, he saved my welsh pony from falling shallow pond .
Thanks for creating this video series and breaking it down into all the little things you are constantly noticing and working thru with him. Super helpful!
THIS is why I love this guy!!! He is honest snd truthfully and will tell the hard and sometimes hurtful truth to help the HUMAN AND HORSE become the best they can be. Kudos to her for saying she bought hik sight unseen most ppl will leave their less then perfect side put because they are afraid to be seen as less then. Sadly that can hide issues as well that could be part of the key to fixing the issues.. So hope she finds her rainbow horse that makes the world around her bright and beautiful full fo colors and magic!!
My Gosh! You are exquisitely truthful and honest at the same time! You can’t beat your down to-the truth and reality training ! 👌😎⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Thank you Ryan 😎👍🏻
I gave up the most beautiful horse I have ever owned last year with tears in my eyes. She is in a better situation now (eventing) and I realized I needed a "granny" horse at my advanced age. Thank you Ryan for all your super training videos. 👍👍
I have a "problem" horse who's been passed on from owner to owner. I've had different trainers but you're the first to explain it this way. I wish you were closer to me!
It's too bad that this combo did not work out, but there is no shame in realizing that it is not a match. You both deserve to be happy in life. You need a horse that you can enjoy right now, and he needs a different situation. May you both be happy.
Greetings from germany! Thanks for this serie because we have the same problems with our mare too. She bucks all of us(3riders) on the trail. I hurt me hard too but I love this horse so much that i cant quit her. I want to help her to be confident and your videos help me a lot to fix it. So I look forward to see more from sensitive horses.🙃🙏
Thank you! You helped me make a decision about my roan gelding. He never, ever bucked, until last Friday. I ended up in the ER. The man I got him from is coming to pick up the horse this week. I have had and ridden my horse for 2 years! You really helped me make the difficult decision because my horses are like "family" to me. I know he is going to a good man that loves his horses. ❤
I'm so proud of this girl thinking about what's best for her AND the horse. More ppl need to do this! Some horses and ppl just don't match just like two persons don't match. Don't mean anything is wrong with any of them! I had a mare one time and yes I could ride her and handle her but it was just not a fit! A friend of mine however took her over from me and they were perfect for eachother. Her horse she had and me was a better match so we just kinda switched horses and we were both happy. She was more high energy than me and had a very sensitive horse..and my mare was very low energy and and needed a boost and I'm not very high energy just slow and steady. So the switch was what the horses needed. Horses were happier and so was we. Win win!
Also want to add she had her horse in my stable and we had Bern friends for years and that switch just made it more fun for both of us to go on trail rides together! She did not have to be scared her horse would suddenly just turn around and take off and I did not have to work a sweat just to go on a canter cross a field..lol Her horse used to get so hyped up so he just took over and sprinted back home with her where mine couldn't be bothered to do more than just the minimum effort needed. Her energy brought my mare to be more exited about rides and my low more patient energy relaxed her horse. Where she got scared of him turning around bolting I was prepared and didn't panic and just got him to run circles a cpl of times and he figured it out pretty quick that that was not to fun. The farmer that owned the field was probably wondering about the crop circles tho lol.
Every single werck I've ever had was when I ignored that gut "uh-oh" feeling and "toughened up" because someone more experienced who allegedly knew better told me to "ride him through it". When you know your gut well and know you don't generally have anxiety issues - listen to it! There is no shame in not cantering, stepping off or selling the horse if it's just not right in that moment. Great video, enjoy your horses everyone.
Your honesty as a trainer is so, so refreshing! I wish there was a law for this kind of horsemanship honesty to the point of carrying the title of a trainer! Keep keeping on! Kudos for all your public knowledge, hard work and most importantly honesty!
I'm in my 70s & have always loved horses but never had the opportunity to really learn about them like this. I've only ever been afraid of one horse & I think had you been around you could have helped both the horse & his owner. Thank you for making these videos because I believe one is never too old to learn!
Kudos to the owner, for her decision.Very helpful video, I like the way Ryan observes the horse ,and explains what he is doing and why. I look forward to following the progress of this horse
Thank you for sharing your awesome knowledge and I love your videos!!! This one especially touched me because it exactly reflects my friends story with a " kid safe" horse she bought and broke her back on the very first ride at home! Unfortunately she didn't sell the horse until after she had a second big accident. He found a great home where he is loved and works on a Ranch, while my friend found her little dream horse as well. She is happily riding the trails now and enjoys every minute of it.
Very, very impressed with you, Sir. If only more people read the body language as you do. I got on a horse I was very scared of. She bucked me off and I fractured my spine. Now, some would say 'that is a nasty horse.' But it was my bad judgement. Luckily I lived to ride again. Excellent advice to Jasper's courageous rider.
Thanks for this Ryan. I so agree about not sticking with a horse that’s not a match yes it’s hard to move on, but ultimately is better for you and for the horse. I have stuck with it in the past and ended up completely traumatised as well as injured and I had to move the horse on in the end anyway. Good luck to them both.
I have tremendous respect for Ryan Rose to speak candidly about safety for the rider. I'm so impressed that the owner was willing to accept that she would do better with another horse 🐎 ❤. She tried her best 👌 ❤ , but wow, this really was a tear jerker for me. I'm glad to hear that you know of someone who will be a better fit for this beautiful horse ❤. Sweetheart Ryan Rose will find the perfect horse for you ❤️ don't worry, hun.xx
There was a stable close by when I was a teenager. Some of the horses and ponies rarely saw their owners. I didn’t own a horse but with permission learned how to train and gentle them just to be near them. Ryan’s advice is dead on.
This series is packed with so very much teaching. I sure would have benefited from this teaching 35 years ago when I had 2 horses that would buck on the trail just like Jasper. I had "trainers" at the time but neither of them knew what you taught in this series. Just Wonderful Ryan!
Yes I do see what you are giving me on the Green light . . thank you for breaking it down , yes if there is any indication of the horse is not in his body . . I choose another day or do the ground work - - it is excellent you ID the antecedents with the problem . . Big thanks
Thank you Ryan, I have glad I found your videos. I have been enjoying and learning so much. This series couldn’t be more timely. I recently came off my horse Eagle, long story. Watching this has given me more to think about. Turns out Eagle had underlying but treatable health issue that was causing pain. I feel we are still a good match but I will work with someone who is hopefully as honest as you. And special thanks to Jasper and his owner for sharing their story.
I had a terrible fall off from my horse last May and ended up with a traumatic brain injury, bruised ribs and torn chest muscles. Within a week (I was bed ridden for 2 weeks) I had found him a new owner (she is a friend) who had trainers available to help him continue. I was 50 and didn't want to deal with a green horse that I thought was trained more than he was when I got him. He's happier, I'm happier with my new horse. I knew I'd never get over my fear of riding him after the fall. I've never in my 40 years of having horses been afraid to ride. Sometimes you have to make the hard decisions.
Wise words. Horses are new to me and have had 11 in 2.5 years. Decided to work with the four I have. Each one has multiple training holes but I feel they are of the mentality to work through it. Probably should have keep a few of the earlier ones but I didn't know anything.then. All in all I ended up with a best friend horse and lots of fun. Thanks Ryan.
Your honesty is already paying off in the end! Smart! You are smart for being dedicated and honest, with your clients! The last of the Mohicans, so to speak! 👌😎⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
One of my horses is extremely sensitive like Jasper and sometimes just the littlest things get him tensed up. It takes some basic groundwork that he enjoys to work out the stress of whatever it was that he reacted to. I have also found that occasional acupuncture sessions have really helped him to relax. He’s only three years old and has made good progress in the 6 months I have had him. I wish all good things for Jasper, and I hope this lady gets the horse she needs to get back in the saddle with joy.
I was in the exact same situation. It took 2 bad wrecks for me to finally let my gelding go. I had got him as a yearling. Sold him at age 6. I have a milder gaited horse now. But I still occassionally get the 'scared feeling' even with him.
Thank you Ryan for giving such sound advice. All too often trainers don't want to offend a client and/or lose a client. You are so right. Sometimes you just need to make a new, better choice, so you, as well as the horse, can live happier lives for a long time.
I think both you and the owner of jasper have been really honest with each other. Well done to both of you, very brave. I have a lot of respect for people that can tell it how it is 🙂
This video series is fantastic, you have such a simple and honest way with words to describe what's going on with this horse and rider. I can really relate to this situation and there are not a lot of videos of trainers going through this initial evaluation and actually talking with the owner and rather than selling your training you're really interested in the two of them finding a safe and happy future. My 6 year old gelding is hyper sensitive like this horse, he's a painted sport pony who I bought from the amish in southern Wisconsin as a 2 year old with about 3 months of riding the roads with a 12 year old amish boy. I was looking for a young green project and at first he was a dream. About 8 months after I bought him, out on a trail ride in about 12 inches of snow he spooked and bolted. Im a seasoned rider and felt that I was going to regain control, but it didn't happen fast enough and he dove off trail and over the equivalent of a 4' jump off a big dead tree and this was where he lost me. I landed on my back on the tree. Someone was watching over us that day because the moment I called him he appeared from up the trail and helped me up, dropping the reins so I could reach them, then we limped back to the barn through the snow. I had to take about 6 weeks off from riding and didn't have anyone experienced enough to work him for me so he also sat for 6 weeks. The very first ride was perfect, the next ride he moved forward a bit when I put my foot in the stirrup, the next ride he threw his head in the air and bolted away before I could say whoa. After this happened a few more times in a row just trying to mount in the paddock I knew we had to start over completely. He was always ticklish, one of those types that the softest brushes would make his whole skin move, and was highly sensitive to leg and seat cues. The accident just pushed him over the edge. It took me 3 years of restart to get him to trust himself and me, almost an entire year with no tack, just ground work, liberty, and sitting on him in the paddock at the hay bale when he was done and tired. It took another year of riding bareback/ walk before I could start asking for forward movement because he would immediately bolt. Then we did a year of hard core distance riding and wet blankets when I trusted his whoa enough to know I still had control of the speed when I asked him for it. Im currently training him to be an eventing pony, starting jumps, low level dressage work, and he's absolutely loving it. But he's very much a fidget, my coach always jokes how he's a horse that can't stand still even if he's huffing and puffing after a long lesson and a hack. Thankfully this is the personality I wanted in my horse- but it has been a serious journey and he isn't a horse who can sit for a while and you just hop on, he needs very consistent physical and mental work or he starts seeing ghouls and feeling ants. your cander about this kind of horse is refreshing to see on the western side of things.....where so many times it's like you say people try to be brave and tough it out rather than stepping back and finding what's right for helping the sensitive horse-they end up in so many auctions because they gain a label. thank you for sharing this story with us! kristi and horse Chauncey in northern mn 🦄❤
This has been a great video. I had a similar experience with a sensitive horse. I got hurt and sent her to a trainer but could never really relax on rides after that and she remained super reactive. Eventually, I stopped riding her and didn't sell her because I didn't want her to hurt anyone else or to go from owner to owner. Like Ryan said about half way thru - The accident scared her also. I think its great that Jasper gets another chance for a good fit, and this brave woman will get another chance to find a horse that is a better fit for her. Also helpful - all the desensitizing lessons and 1. bad saddle fit - the horse won't want to move, 2. Claustrophobic - bucks, 3. scared - bolts. thanks again!
Huge kudos to you and Jasper's owner for correctly diagnosing this situation with diplomacy; that is a really tough thing to say and to hear and you both did it with grace. I wish I could give this video series a 1,000 thumbs up. Once you voice Jasper's sensitivities and reactions it is clear that he is no where near safe enough for anyone other than a trainer. It is fortunate that Jasper's owner brought him to you. Also, anyone who starts to ride horses should be clear as you said, that there is nothing safe about riding horses, only better prepared and safer: this really should like license to acknowledge before anyone is allowed to ride. Great series. I hope we get to see more of Jasper with his new person. Thanks so much to Jennifer for her bravery to put her story out there for others as a cautionary tale (tail) -- couldn't resist.
Wow! Awesome video! Thanks to Both Ryan and Jasper Owner...And...Yes to Jasper also. Excellent Vid for those of us just starting our journey. I'm 71, as of today, have ridden 1 horse 1 time when I was 9 yrs old. I'm seriously thinking of doing a Lease at a nearby Stable to Trail Ride on the same horse as I learn Horsemanship. Love this Channel!!
This is a great learning process for many Ryan, you really emphasize their feelings and emotions for a lot of people I think. I keep a great and beautiful horse because I initially chose it, and then never dare to ride it again, because of the annoying behavior of the horse, or traumatic experience. No you are right, choose a horse that you are feel friends with, and be happy with without stress, without pain, a horse that you can really enjoy in life, we only live one life, and the years go by so fast . then I think we better be happy in that life, right. Thank you so much for sharing this Loved it Roos 🌹😁💪🏻👊🏻👍🏻🍀
Thanks to Jennifer for being open to share your experience. Great evaluation and understanding of this horses mindset and training, by you Ryan. Good solid advice. Looking forward to seeing Jasper progress.
I feel happy that you didn't go on trying. I'd say this was a very good session and giving him release now will teach him much more than pushing him through something he cannot handle yet. Very good horsemanship. Thank you!!
This video saved me today, thank you so much. My young 4 year old, is tence when mounting, today was head up hump back eye just not right. THANK YOU SO MUCH
PTSD is PTSD for the human and horse. The amygdala in the brain triggers a response. It is involuntary. It takes real work to overcome this. My utmost respect to Ryan and the owner for making a practical decision. Terrific video!
so glad I watched to the very end. you are a very special trainer spokesperson Ryan. I am old and a dressage rider and some of the issues you deal with are way more candidly and intelligently dealth with by you than any other trainer. thank you.
I HAD a horse I'm scared of... He now belongs to my husband. They are best friends. Sometimes it happens that way... I have another horse for me and we ride 2 to 3 times a week. Worked out! Thanks for your knowledge!
I couldn't agree more. Theres too many good ones to try to work one that needs more help than your skill level. Swallowing that pride and acknowledging that is difficult for people though.
I really enjoy your videos. There is always something to learn to become a better horseperson. I stumbled on your videos this past year. Started watching a few. Zeroed in more on you and your videos when in one of your videos I heard you reference Tom Dorrance. That caught my attention. The more I watched, the more I appreciated you and your methods. I'm a person who was taught in college by someone who used a lot of Ray Hunt methods. Keep up the great work and thanks for all the great videos. I also find it neat you are from Wisconsin. I'm also live in the Midwest. Nice to have someone like you located here.
If I were her after watching you with this horse, I would pay you to rehome this horse and then find me a more compatible match. I’ve had a horse that was beyond my skill level and I could not enjoy a trail ride, then I got an older, well schooled horse that was the perfect fit
A pleasure horse should be just that…. When I ride my QH mare that actually looks identical to that gelding I’m relaxed, she’s relaxed and there’s synchronicity. I feel so badly the horse didn’t work out but It sounds as if y’all have a good plan ☺️ back injuries are a nightmare. I was in a Boston jacket for three months after my neighbors horse reared over me and on top of me. I was14 yrs old.
I love this wise advice. I was in a similar situation to this lady, and I did let the horse move on to a much more appropriate owner. It was so hard to let him go, but now I’m so glad I did. I know the horse is better off and so am I.
I am grateful for seeing this video. I wish I had seen it four years ago. My Buckskin QH mare violently bronc'd me off May 2020 - broke T10, T12, L1 ; herniated T11/T12; compressed C6 & C7; sprained both wrists; traumatic injury to my right hip; bed ridden 6 weeks and had a total hip replacement Jun 2022. Now Sep 2023 and I have started training her the basics. Got on to take a lap with her Nov 2023 and she went to buck again. I now realize she may not be the horse for me. I don't trust her. Sending her off to be trained by someone wont fix the trust issues. Thank you Ryan for the videos - I wish there was a place to learn to read horse behaviour. Maybe I have made her this way through my ignorance and not knowing what she is telling or trying to tell me. Maybe she is too sensitive for a trail horse. I will give an update in a while.
I was in a similar situation years back. I made a decision to let the horse go to a more suitable home which worked out really well and I got the horse if my dreams
All the commenters here seem to understand the essential nature of being emotionally truthful in all of this. As in ALL AREAS OF LIFE, the truth can be worked with because it is REAL. No decision based on a lie or on ignorance can ever produce anything lasting because all decisions are based on falsehoods. So SUCCESSFULLY interacting with animals will REQUIRE that truthfulness from us. That is why this was a success. And likely will continue to be as the horse may find better help from another " owner". And this owner can find a better match. And it is Ryan who has chosen to be an honest and invested mediator between animal and human, for ALL THEIR SAKES! PS I LOVED the little added blurb on the video when Ryan said, "I am a professional"! Too perfect!!
Everybody who gets such a trainer is really blessed. I had similar experience with a very handsome, young Haflinger (not mine, but I was at first asked to ride him when I was still quite green). Then it turned out that he basically was just broken to accept a saddle and a bridle. I really was not yet up to the task of teaching him the basics of riding. One day, he bucked me off twice during a hack in the woods (luckily, I was not alone). That was too much for me. I got deadly afraid of horses. Luckily, the Hafi's owner took the responsibility and called a trainer who basically put me through basic beginner training again on a super-reliable horse. I was able to trust a horse again and continued from there on.
Jasper reminds me so much of the first horse i bought. She was a bay and had one white sock as well. Her high headedness and feer and behaviours were so similar to Jasper. She was sold to me as a "beginner" horse. I took many many lessons on her and put a month of training on her but I never trusted her, I wish these videos were available to me when I owned her. I only allowed experienced riders to rider her, and eventually just retired her because I was worried I or someone else would get hurt. She lived out her days as pasture furniture out in the field until she passed of natural causes.
I completely understand how it is to be in a tslo brace. I’m wearing one too and have become quite the groundwork student. In November, I was in an accident on a trail ride with my mare and fractured my back in two places 3/12 hours away from home. I have used this time to not only bond with Phoenix, but to be her alpha and I want to do whatever it takes to get her used to everything and I mean EVERYthing when we go out again. I am going to attempt this drill once the doctor clears me of spinal precautions. Thank you for the videos, Ryan.
Refreshing to hear that you are confident enough to be honest with an owner. Truth is the horse will always be able to sense her anxiety (or fear) and to continue to be "hopeful" that he will come around just is a recipe for disaster for that owner.
This 3 part series is so helpful. I am dealing with the exact say problem. This horse is just like my horse. I bought him at a auction for a trail horse and was bronc off the first time on him and was injured 5 months ago. We are doing just ground work like this. I’m told it’s a long process and I’m working with a professional.
Nice work all around! There is no blue ribbon for keeping the wrong horse and gritting your teeth. Not fair to the horse or the rider! Well done Ryan on the training and being understanding and non judgmental.
I would say that those very sensitive horses express right away what bothers them and they are easy to read. The good side of them being Left brain extroverted. and the bad is they can explode so fast since their intolerance builds so fast! Thx to you again
I love your honesty I had a bad fall years ago and so was left nervous around any horse until I got my cob Piper who gave me back my confidence and love and now he’s the best therapy cob with as young as a 3 yr old bombproof safe gentle loving Great honest advice
You are absolutely CORRECT been in her situation and he needs a more consistent rider with strong hands etc. She do better with a more easygoing and willing horse. Good job to you Ryan!!!!
Thx to you so much for those 3 videos. I'm rethinkin' my decision But still i will experiment those exercices on my horse to evaluate his fundations holes that i feel already he has!. I'm very thankfull
After my good old horse passed on I went through 3 horses that we bought too fast, didn't spend enough time testing them out, before finding my perfect, safe companion to finish out my riding years. The 3 unsuitable horses (not safe enough on the trails, two painful falls) have all gone to more suitable homes where they are making their owners very happy. No regrets about letting them go and finally finding the right one.
I really enjoyed this series. I have a horse I adopted from a rescue in summer 2020. He is broke to ride and he's never done anything ugly but it makes him very anxious. Just like with Jasper, he gets tense even seeing the saddle come out. It became clear pretty quickly after I brought him home that there were a lot of holes in his training and what he really needed was to be started completely over from the ground up, which is what we did. He'll let me ride him and he's never offered to buck or anything like that but I want to get him to a place where he doesn't just tolerate it, where it doesn't make him so anxious. I saw a lot of him in Jasper.
Ryan, thanks for your honesty regarding the issues between horse and rider. Its a first in all training videos that I have watched, and I watch a lot ,where a professional like yourself in fact recommends another horse to a rider for safety's sake and a more pleasurable horse owner experience.
I’m sitting here with a heating pad on my lower back 7 weeks after having my horse scooted out from under me when I was bareback.☹️ Note to self: ride green horses with a saddle. I’m here to learn more so whenever I go to ride again I’ll have better odds of staying safer. I hope you do more videos with Jasper.
Ryan I think that was really great advice and I admire the owner for her decision. Honestly, keeping him probably would have meant being stressed everytime she saddled up ! Riding is supposed to be enjoyable for both horse and rider ❤️
Just for fun and giggles. You can’t turn an alfa God given nature of a horse into a submissive horse. Again, thank you for being honest with your clients!! Now they can make a wisdom filled choice! Thanks to you honesty!
Thanks for watching this series! There will a follow up on this when Jasper gets a little further along with his new owner. If you’d like to support this channel please consider joining my patreon page. Www.patreon.com/ryanrosehorsemanship
Your videos have helped me so much ❤
My horse paws when I saddle him. I've tried several things with little success. I know he's is just inpatient and wants to go out for a ride. He's perfect once he's saddled. Any suggestions?
I'm so glad you were honest and advised her on this lovely horse as I would have, so many trainers keep their mouth shut even though they know a horse is not suitable for their client.
You have my attention now to keep watching your channel thanks
I’d love to watch his progress.
Thanks Ryan for being so honest and forthright with this owner. My grandfather (a Studmaster) also told me "There's nothing safe about playing around with horses." We must manage the safety element and accept that some horse are not for us.
Clare from Australia
I have so much respect for her to be able to recognize she needed to let go, and even more for you for seeing her emotional pain and addressing that with sensitivity and compassion. These decisions are never easy, but you are obviously both true horse people and know what is best for horse and rider. Super impressed and a bit verklempt!
Absolutely
Me too. I'm cryin ovah here
I have a horse same way. I knew she was but the people that sold her in pilot point tx said she was a trail horse. She ended up bucking even after she was sedated for having her teeth done. That women knew she was going to buck and didnt care if I got hurt. Then she wanted to trade back I'm sure for a lower quality horse. What a scam. Be careful when buying a horse Some people don't care about their reputations when money is involved. Try them and go try them again
@@ryanrosehorsemanship Better yet, have a professional trainer check & try out the horse you're interested in, not just a vet...
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Why are you riding a horse that is sedated and had the teeth done ??
I am a trainer for 58 years and very opinionated about horse related advice offered by other trainers. I usually have a lot of negative opinions. My opinion about this guy's horsemanship and advice is that he is mature, intelligent and a great friend of the horse. Also knows how to speak to owners with kindness and truth. Excellent horseman! I LOVE this guy!
Me too 64years riding training
Breeding and teaching..
But still love learning more ..this guys work is genuine and rock solid full of common sense empathy for the horse and owner ..totally recommend using his methods...👌🐎♥️
I've heard horse people say, it may take a while to figure out a horse, but the horse has you figured out within a few seconds.
Ryan, I have always thought highly of you but I really appreciate your straightforward approach when explaining to the owner why this horse might not be the best match for her at this moment in time. You are always so diplomatic🙏😊
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@@ryanrosehorsemanship DANG IT!! You KNOW I know your name! Lol
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Oh Ryan, what a great teaching video. You are as as kind and considerate and clear with humans as you are with the horses. And although Jasper is moving on, it's been such a learning opportunity for his owner, and for us - your on-line *students*. You are so generous with your knowledge and experience, and we appreciate it, man 🙏
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Head up = Adrenalin & Cortisol (not desirable) Head down = Dopamine & Serotonin (what we want) along with hindquarter disengagement is what we need to teach relaxation. Excellent video!!!
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The honest answer you gave the owner toward the end of the vid (16:00 minutes or so) was 🎯👍
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I’m so so glad you advised her to not keep this horse. She made a mistake. And let’s hope she don’t make another one. She may be hurt forever with that bucking and she’s an experienced rider. Thank you for being up front , doing the work you did with him, and helping her move on. Great Job. 🥰💕👍
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Yes! I lived watching this video because I learned what the signs of heightened stress are in a horse who is not ready to be ridden yet. Thank you!
This owner has so much courage. She should never feel down on herself or having "failed" in any way for not being a match with Jasper. She did nothing wrong... The horse did nothing wrong.
It was very good that, because of her honesty & love, that they can both start with a clean slate & heal. A totally new rider will help this horse recover & do well. A more-well-matched mount will give the owner confidence & joy in bonding with a horse she can trust 100%.
God bless you all!
This series is probably the best of all Ryan's videos that I've watched. A real life situation and a realistic way to handle it. Ryan is identifying issues with this horse that probably few people (even trainers) are capable of picking up on. I hope that Jasper's progress under a new owner doesn't skip anything important. I hope there isn't a gap, I mean. Great work.
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Yes, very brave of her to share her story and be open to honest answers. And it helps us too. Thanks to all involved.
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Really nice to see choosing the best path for the owner and for the horse too. I hope she finds her dream horse!
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Such solid advice to the owner.
I got bucked off and broke my back in 2017.
I could NOT ride that horse again. I retired her and I got another much more relaxed youngster and started her myself and was able to ride safely again.
PTSD is a real thing fir us riders and you can't fake it with a horse...ever.
Jennifer you will ride again and feel ok about it. I was so empathizing with the brace...was there!
❤ Ryan you really were there fir her.
I appreciate Ryan’s videos because even though they are a bit long, they give you a better sense that fixing a horse is a process that takes time and effort and doesn’t come automagically, this is more honest and a better learning experience than other folks in TH-cam.
I went through this exact same situation for 10 years. I finally swallowed my pride and bought a new horse. I couldn't be any happier. I now have my horse life back after 10 long and emotionally draining years. Great advice for her. So glad she listened! Great series watching Jasper!
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I'm led you made the right decision too Chris. Sometimes even professional trainers hit that wall with a horse. Once a horse has done some scary things, everybody thinks about them if they get back on that horse.
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There's no such thing as an unfixable horse ..
You didn't know what you were doing, and the trainers you went to didn't know what they were doing ..
It's sad you got rid of the horse ..
There's no problem horses, only problem riders ..
@@Ladyalphawolf I still have her, she just doesn't leave the farm if Igo riding with friends. She is the boss mare and is fine on the ground.
Great video. I watched all 3 when they were posted. Very clear that even with Ryan's expert handling, this horse was not comfortable or relaxed about saddling, let alone being ridden even in a safe sand arena. Imagine him with his owner, a less experienced person, out on a trail ride. Its such a shame his previous owners sold him as suitable for trail riding, when he was a ticking time bomb
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Very true. It is a shame when horses are misrepresented during selling, leading to frustration between both human and animal!
Ryan，do you think because this horse is dominant one? I have a curly horse very dominant, hard to ride, but he is very good for my herd, he is always keep an eye on all his herd, he saved my welsh pony from falling shallow pond .
Thanks for creating this video series and breaking it down into all the little things you are constantly noticing and working thru with him. Super helpful!
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A friend of mine recently sold her beautiful blue roan bucker. She got a quiet guy that doesn't buck. Much happier.
I think we bought him! Lol
Actually a beautiful bay roan quarter horse, 14 year old spit fire! Coon tailed, looks like an appy
THIS is why I love this guy!!! He is honest snd truthfully and will tell the hard and sometimes hurtful truth to help the HUMAN AND HORSE become the best they can be. Kudos to her for saying she bought hik sight unseen most ppl will leave their less then perfect side put because they are afraid to be seen as less then. Sadly that can hide issues as well that could be part of the key to fixing the issues.. So hope she finds her rainbow horse that makes the world around her bright and beautiful full fo colors and magic!!
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Ryan you're a very gracious person with loads of discernment. This lady is so lucky to have you guide her to where she wants to be.
My Gosh! You are exquisitely truthful and honest at the same time! You can’t beat your down to-the truth and reality training ! 👌😎⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Thank you Ryan 😎👍🏻
I gave up the most beautiful horse I have ever owned last year with tears in my eyes. She is in a better situation now (eventing) and I realized I needed a "granny" horse at my advanced age. Thank you Ryan for all your super training videos. 👍👍
I have a "problem" horse who's been passed on from owner to owner. I've had different trainers but you're the first to explain it this way. I wish you were closer to me!
It's too bad that this combo did not work out, but there is no shame in realizing that it is not a match. You both deserve to be happy in life. You need a horse that you can enjoy right now, and he needs a different situation. May you both be happy.
Greetings from germany! Thanks for this serie because we have the same problems with our mare too. She bucks all of us(3riders) on the trail. I hurt me hard too but I love this horse so much that i cant quit her. I want to help her to be confident and your videos help me a lot to fix it. So I look forward to see more from sensitive horses.🙃🙏
Thank you! You helped me make a decision about my roan gelding. He never, ever bucked, until last Friday. I ended up in the ER. The man I got him from is coming to pick up the horse this week. I have had and ridden my horse for 2 years! You really helped me make the difficult decision because my horses are like "family" to me. I know he is going to a good man that loves his horses. ❤
I'm so proud of this girl thinking about what's best for her AND the horse.
More ppl need to do this! Some horses and ppl just don't match just like two persons don't match. Don't mean anything is wrong with any of them!
I had a mare one time and yes I could ride her and handle her but it was just not a fit! A friend of mine however took her over from me and they were perfect for eachother. Her horse she had and me was a better match so we just kinda switched horses and we were both happy. She was more high energy than me and had a very sensitive horse..and my mare was very low energy and and needed a boost and I'm not very high energy just slow and steady. So the switch was what the horses needed. Horses were happier and so was we. Win win!
Also want to add she had her horse in my stable and we had Bern friends for years and that switch just made it more fun for both of us to go on trail rides together!
She did not have to be scared her horse would suddenly just turn around and take off and I did not have to work a sweat just to go on a canter cross a field..lol
Her horse used to get so hyped up so he just took over and sprinted back home with her where mine couldn't be bothered to do more than just the minimum effort needed. Her energy brought my mare to be more exited about rides and my low more patient energy relaxed her horse. Where she got scared of him turning around bolting I was prepared and didn't panic and just got him to run circles a cpl of times and he figured it out pretty quick that that was not to fun. The farmer that owned the field was probably wondering about the crop circles tho lol.
Every single werck I've ever had was when I ignored that gut "uh-oh" feeling and "toughened up" because someone more experienced who allegedly knew better told me to "ride him through it". When you know your gut well and know you don't generally have anxiety issues - listen to it! There is no shame in not cantering, stepping off or selling the horse if it's just not right in that moment. Great video, enjoy your horses everyone.
Your honesty as a trainer is so, so refreshing! I wish there was a law for this kind of horsemanship honesty to the point of carrying the title of a trainer! Keep keeping on! Kudos for all your public knowledge, hard work and most importantly honesty!
I'm in my 70s & have always loved horses but never had the opportunity to really learn about them like this. I've only ever been afraid of one horse & I think had you been around you could have helped both the horse & his owner. Thank you for making these videos because I believe one is never too old to learn!
Kudos to the owner, for her decision.Very helpful video, I like the way Ryan observes the horse ,and explains what he is doing and why.
I look forward to following the progress of this horse
I appreciate your honesty in this situation. It can't be easy to give the owner this evaluation. I hope those watching will appreciate it.
Thank you for sharing your awesome knowledge and I love your videos!!! This one especially touched me because it exactly reflects my friends story with a " kid safe" horse she bought and broke her back on the very first ride at home! Unfortunately she didn't sell the horse until after she had a second big accident. He found a great home where he is loved and works on a Ranch, while my friend found her little dream horse as well. She is happily riding the trails now and enjoys every minute of it.
Very, very impressed with you, Sir. If only more people read the body language as you do. I got on a horse I was very scared of. She bucked me off and I fractured my spine. Now, some would say 'that is a nasty horse.' But it was my bad judgement. Luckily I lived to ride again. Excellent advice to Jasper's courageous rider.
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Thanks for this Ryan. I so agree about not sticking with a horse that’s not a match yes it’s hard to move on, but ultimately is better for you and for the horse. I have stuck with it in the past and ended up completely traumatised as well as injured and I had to move the horse on in the end anyway. Good luck to them both.
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I have tremendous respect for Ryan Rose to speak candidly about safety for the rider. I'm so impressed that the owner was willing to accept that she would do better with another horse 🐎 ❤. She tried her best 👌 ❤ , but wow, this really was a tear jerker for me.
I'm glad to hear that you know of someone who will be a better fit for this beautiful horse ❤.
Sweetheart Ryan Rose will find the perfect horse for you ❤️ don't worry, hun.xx
"Head down?" "Yes... no." "Head down?" "Yes... no." "Head down?" "Yes... No."
I love to see the patience being displayed here.
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Love this Ryan! I really like your videos. You do an awesome job speaking the horse language and teaching it. You are a really good trainer. 💕💕💕
Really sensible and wise thinking and decision made here, so good!
There was a stable close by when I was a teenager. Some of the horses and ponies rarely saw their owners. I didn’t own a horse but with permission learned how to train and gentle them just to be near them. Ryan’s advice is dead on.
Gosh, I was so lucky to have great horses that you just jumped on and rode...EVERYWHERE
Great series! I hope they find him a good home and that she finds a nice horse for herself.
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This series is packed with so very much teaching. I sure would have benefited from this teaching 35 years ago when I had 2 horses that would buck on the trail just like Jasper. I had "trainers" at the time but neither of them knew what you taught in this series. Just Wonderful Ryan!
Yes I do see what you are giving me on the Green light . . thank you for breaking it down , yes if there is any indication of the horse is not in his body . . I choose another day or do the ground work - - it is excellent you ID the antecedents with the problem . . Big thanks
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Thank you Ryan, I have glad I found your videos. I have been enjoying and learning so much. This series couldn’t be more timely. I recently came off my horse Eagle, long story. Watching this has given me more to think about. Turns out Eagle had underlying but treatable health issue that was causing pain. I feel we are still a good match but I will work with someone who is hopefully as honest as you. And special thanks to Jasper and his owner for sharing their story.
I had a terrible fall off from my horse last May and ended up with a traumatic brain injury, bruised ribs and torn chest muscles. Within a week (I was bed ridden for 2 weeks) I had found him a new owner (she is a friend) who had trainers available to help him continue. I was 50 and didn't want to deal with a green horse that I thought was trained more than he was when I got him. He's happier, I'm happier with my new horse. I knew I'd never get over my fear of riding him after the fall. I've never in my 40 years of having horses been afraid to ride. Sometimes you have to make the hard decisions.
Wise words. Horses are new to me and have had 11 in 2.5 years. Decided to work with the four I have. Each one has multiple training holes but I feel they are of the mentality to work through it. Probably should have keep a few of the earlier ones but I didn't know anything.then.
All in all I ended up with a best friend horse and lots of fun. Thanks Ryan.
Your honesty is already paying off in the end! Smart! You are smart for being dedicated and honest, with your clients! The last of the Mohicans, so to speak! 👌😎⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
One of my horses is extremely sensitive like Jasper and sometimes just the littlest things get him tensed up. It takes some basic groundwork that he enjoys to work out the stress of whatever it was that he reacted to. I have also found that occasional acupuncture sessions have really helped him to relax. He’s only three years old and has made good progress in the 6 months I have had him. I wish all good things for Jasper, and I hope this lady gets the horse she needs to get back in the saddle with joy.
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I was in the exact same situation. It took 2 bad wrecks for me to finally let my gelding go. I had got him as a yearling. Sold him at age 6. I have a milder gaited horse now. But I still occassionally get the 'scared feeling' even with him.
Thank you Ryan for giving such sound advice. All too often trainers don't want to offend a client and/or lose a client. You are so right. Sometimes you just need to make a new, better choice, so you, as well as the horse, can live happier lives for a long time.
I think both you and the owner of jasper have been really honest with each other. Well done to both of you, very brave. I have a lot of respect for people that can tell it how it is 🙂
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So much respect for both of you. This video is so true on so many levels.
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This video series is fantastic, you have such a simple and honest way with words to describe what's going on with this horse and rider. I can really relate to this situation and there are not a lot of videos of trainers going through this initial evaluation and actually talking with the owner and rather than selling your training you're really interested in the two of them finding a safe and happy future.
My 6 year old gelding is hyper sensitive like this horse, he's a painted sport pony who I bought from the amish in southern Wisconsin as a 2 year old with about 3 months of riding the roads with a 12 year old amish boy. I was looking for a young green project and at first he was a dream. About 8 months after I bought him, out on a trail ride in about 12 inches of snow he spooked and bolted. Im a seasoned rider and felt that I was going to regain control, but it didn't happen fast enough and he dove off trail and over the equivalent of a 4' jump off a big dead tree and this was where he lost me. I landed on my back on the tree. Someone was watching over us that day because the moment I called him he appeared from up the trail and helped me up, dropping the reins so I could reach them, then we limped back to the barn through the snow. I had to take about 6 weeks off from riding and didn't have anyone experienced enough to work him for me so he also sat for 6 weeks. The very first ride was perfect, the next ride he moved forward a bit when I put my foot in the stirrup, the next ride he threw his head in the air and bolted away before I could say whoa. After this happened a few more times in a row just trying to mount in the paddock I knew we had to start over completely. He was always ticklish, one of those types that the softest brushes would make his whole skin move, and was highly sensitive to leg and seat cues. The accident just pushed him over the edge. It took me 3 years of restart to get him to trust himself and me, almost an entire year with no tack, just ground work, liberty, and sitting on him in the paddock at the hay bale when he was done and tired. It took another year of riding bareback/ walk before I could start asking for forward movement because he would immediately bolt. Then we did a year of hard core distance riding and wet blankets when I trusted his whoa enough to know I still had control of the speed when I asked him for it. Im currently training him to be an eventing pony, starting jumps, low level dressage work, and he's absolutely loving it. But he's very much a fidget, my coach always jokes how he's a horse that can't stand still even if he's huffing and puffing after a long lesson and a hack. Thankfully this is the personality I wanted in my horse- but it has been a serious journey and he isn't a horse who can sit for a while and you just hop on, he needs very consistent physical and mental work or he starts seeing ghouls and feeling ants.
your cander about this kind of horse is refreshing to see on the western side of things.....where so many times it's like you say people try to be brave and tough it out rather than stepping back and finding what's right for helping the sensitive horse-they end up in so many auctions because they gain a label.
thank you for sharing this story with us!
kristi and horse Chauncey in northern mn
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This has been a great video. I had a similar experience with a sensitive horse. I got hurt and sent her to a trainer but could never really relax on rides after that and she remained super reactive. Eventually, I stopped riding her and didn't sell her because I didn't want her to hurt anyone else or to go from owner to owner. Like Ryan said about half way thru - The accident scared her also. I think its great that Jasper gets another chance for a good fit, and this brave woman will get another chance to find a horse that is a better fit for her.
Also helpful - all the desensitizing lessons and 1. bad saddle fit - the horse won't want to move, 2. Claustrophobic - bucks, 3. scared - bolts.
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Huge kudos to you and Jasper's owner for correctly diagnosing this situation with diplomacy; that is a really tough thing to say and to hear and you both did it with grace. I wish I could give this video series a 1,000 thumbs up. Once you voice Jasper's sensitivities and reactions it is clear that he is no where near safe enough for anyone other than a trainer. It is fortunate that Jasper's owner brought him to you. Also, anyone who starts to ride horses should be clear as you said, that there is nothing safe about riding horses, only better prepared and safer: this really should like license to acknowledge before anyone is allowed to ride. Great series. I hope we get to see more of Jasper with his new person. Thanks so much to Jennifer for her bravery to put her story out there for others as a cautionary tale (tail) -- couldn't resist.
Wow! Awesome video! Thanks to Both Ryan and Jasper Owner...And...Yes to Jasper also. Excellent Vid for those of us just starting our journey.
I'm 71, as of today, have ridden 1 horse 1 time when I was 9 yrs old. I'm seriously thinking of doing a Lease at a nearby Stable to Trail Ride on the same horse as I learn Horsemanship.
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This is a great learning process for many Ryan, you really emphasize their feelings and emotions for a lot of people I think.
I keep a great and beautiful horse because I initially chose it, and then never dare to ride it again, because of the annoying behavior of the horse, or traumatic experience.
No you are right, choose a horse that you are feel friends with, and be happy with without stress, without pain, a horse that you can really enjoy in life, we only live one life, and the years go by so fast . then I think we better be happy in that life, right. Thank you so much for sharing this Loved it Roos 🌹😁💪🏻👊🏻👍🏻🍀
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Thanks to Jennifer for being open to share your experience. Great evaluation and understanding of this horses mindset and training, by you Ryan. Good solid advice. Looking forward to seeing Jasper progress.
Ryan, you've provided Jennifer, as well as Jasper, a really valuable assessment and service. Well done.
I feel happy that you didn't go on trying. I'd say this was a very good session and giving him release now will teach him much more than pushing him through something he cannot handle yet. Very good horsemanship. Thank you!!
Thank you Ryan. This Series of videos has helped me release a lot of guilt around my not riding my horse as I was scared.
So good to hear you tell the owner the truth!
Good on you Ryan!
Thank you Ryan for being honest with the people!
This video saved me today, thank you so much. My young 4 year old, is tence when mounting, today was head up hump back eye just not right. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Really enjoyed this video series, Ryan. Thank you for posting. I am in this exact situation now with my Arabian mare I bought for trail riding.
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PTSD is PTSD for the human and horse. The amygdala in the brain triggers a response. It is involuntary. It takes real work to overcome this. My utmost respect to Ryan and the owner for making a practical decision. Terrific video!
Thank you for all your expertise in owning horses. Love watching your videos and learning more.
Great video, great honesty from you Ryan with all your experience. He’s better off in someone else’s hands.
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I feel really invested in seeing how Jasper comes along. I hope he finds his perfect owner.
There’ll be a follow up on how he’s doing. Stay tuned!
so glad I watched to the very end. you are a very special trainer spokesperson Ryan. I am old and a dressage rider and some of the issues you deal with are way more candidly and intelligently dealth with by you than any other trainer. thank you.
I HAD a horse I'm scared of... He now belongs to my husband. They are best friends. Sometimes it happens that way... I have another horse for me and we ride 2 to 3 times a week. Worked out! Thanks for your knowledge!
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I couldn't agree more. Theres too many good ones to try to work one that needs more help than your skill level. Swallowing that pride and acknowledging that is difficult for people though.
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I really enjoy your videos. There is always something to learn to become a better horseperson. I stumbled on your videos this past year. Started watching a few. Zeroed in more on you and your videos when in one of your videos I heard you reference Tom Dorrance. That caught my attention. The more I watched, the more I appreciated you and your methods. I'm a person who was taught in college by someone who used a lot of Ray Hunt methods. Keep up the great work and thanks for all the great videos. I also find it neat you are from Wisconsin. I'm also live in the Midwest. Nice to have someone like you located here.
Thank you, glad to hear that
If I were her after watching you with this horse, I would pay you to rehome this horse and then find me a more compatible match. I’ve had a horse that was beyond my skill level and I could not enjoy a trail ride, then I got an older, well schooled horse that was the perfect fit
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A pleasure horse should be just that…. When I ride my QH mare that actually looks identical to that gelding I’m relaxed, she’s relaxed and there’s synchronicity. I feel so badly the horse didn’t work out but It sounds as if y’all have a good plan ☺️ back injuries are a nightmare. I was in a Boston jacket for three months after my neighbors horse reared over me and on top of me. I was14 yrs old.
My first time watching your video and I can definitely see that you know your business. Much respect for you sir !
I love this wise advice. I was in a similar situation to this lady, and I did let the horse move on to a much more appropriate owner. It was so hard to let him go, but now I’m so glad I did. I know the horse is better off and so am I.
I am grateful for seeing this video. I wish I had seen it four years ago. My Buckskin QH mare violently bronc'd me off May 2020 - broke T10, T12, L1 ; herniated T11/T12; compressed C6 & C7; sprained both wrists; traumatic injury to my right hip; bed ridden 6 weeks and had a total hip replacement Jun 2022. Now Sep 2023 and I have started training her the basics. Got on to take a lap with her Nov 2023 and she went to buck again. I now realize she may not be the horse for me. I don't trust her. Sending her off to be trained by someone wont fix the trust issues. Thank you Ryan for the videos - I wish there was a place to learn to read horse behaviour. Maybe I have made her this way through my ignorance and not knowing what she is telling or trying to tell me. Maybe she is too sensitive for a trail horse. I will give an update in a while.
I was in a similar situation years back. I made a decision to let the horse go to a more suitable home which worked out really well and I got the horse if my dreams
All the commenters here seem to understand the essential nature of being emotionally truthful in all of this. As in ALL AREAS OF LIFE, the truth can be worked with because it is REAL. No decision based on a lie or on ignorance can ever produce anything lasting because all decisions are based on falsehoods. So SUCCESSFULLY interacting with animals will REQUIRE that truthfulness from us. That is why this was a success. And likely will continue to be as the horse may find better help from another " owner". And this owner can find a better match. And it is Ryan who has chosen to be an honest and invested mediator between animal and human, for ALL THEIR SAKES!
PS I LOVED the little added blurb on the video when Ryan said, "I am a professional"! Too perfect!!
I hope you’ll post an update on both Jasper and his owner. It’s a difficult situation, I pray both will come out the better for it.
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Everybody who gets such a trainer is really blessed. I had similar experience with a very handsome, young Haflinger (not mine, but I was at first asked to ride him when I was still quite green). Then it turned out that he basically was just broken to accept a saddle and a bridle. I really was not yet up to the task of teaching him the basics of riding. One day, he bucked me off twice during a hack in the woods (luckily, I was not alone). That was too much for me. I got deadly afraid of horses. Luckily, the Hafi's owner took the responsibility and called a trainer who basically put me through basic beginner training again on a super-reliable horse. I was able to trust a horse again and continued from there on.
Great advice, I hope they both get what they need. It can take a long time to get over a bad fall as I know to well.
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Jasper reminds me so much of the first horse i bought. She was a bay and had one white sock as well. Her high headedness and feer and behaviours were so similar to Jasper. She was sold to me as a "beginner" horse. I took many many lessons on her and put a month of training on her but I never trusted her, I wish these videos were available to me when I owned her. I only allowed experienced riders to rider her, and eventually just retired her because I was worried I or someone else would get hurt. She lived out her days as pasture furniture out in the field until she passed of natural causes.
I completely understand how it is to be in a tslo brace. I’m wearing one too and have become quite the groundwork student. In November, I was in an accident on a trail ride with my mare and fractured my back in two places 3/12 hours away from home. I have used this time to not only bond with Phoenix, but to be her alpha and I want to do whatever it takes to get her used to everything and I mean EVERYthing when we go out again. I am going to attempt this drill once the doctor clears me of spinal precautions. Thank you for the videos, Ryan.
Love your honest advise early in the process. No point in collecting a check if you know it’s not a good fit.
Refreshing to hear that you are confident enough to be honest with an owner. Truth is the horse will always be able to sense her anxiety (or fear) and to continue to be "hopeful" that he will come around just is a recipe for disaster for that owner.
This 3 part series is so helpful. I am dealing with the exact say problem. This horse is just like my horse. I bought him at a auction for a trail horse and was bronc off the first time on him and was injured 5 months ago. We are doing just ground work like this. I’m told it’s a long process and I’m working with a professional.
Nice work all around! There is no blue ribbon for keeping the wrong horse and gritting your teeth. Not fair to the horse or the rider! Well done Ryan on the training and being understanding and non judgmental.
I would say that those very sensitive horses express right away what bothers them and they are easy to read. The good side of them being Left brain extroverted. and the bad is they can explode so fast since their intolerance builds so fast! Thx to you again
I love your honesty
I had a bad fall years ago and so was left nervous around any horse until I got my cob Piper who gave me back my confidence and love and now he’s the best therapy cob with as young as a 3 yr old bombproof safe gentle loving Great honest advice
Many thanks to Jennifer, Ryan, and of course, Jasper for an excellent video series!
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You are absolutely CORRECT been in her situation and he needs a more consistent rider with strong hands etc. She do better with a more easygoing and willing horse. Good job to you Ryan!!!!
Thx to you so much for those 3 videos. I'm rethinkin' my decision But still i will experiment those exercices on my horse to evaluate his fundations holes that i feel already he has!. I'm very thankfull
After my good old horse passed on I went through 3 horses that we bought too fast, didn't spend enough time testing them out, before finding my perfect, safe companion to finish out my riding years. The 3 unsuitable horses (not safe enough on the trails, two painful falls) have all gone to more suitable homes where they are making their owners very happy. No regrets about letting them go and finally finding the right one.
I really enjoyed this series. I have a horse I adopted from a rescue in summer 2020. He is broke to ride and he's never done anything ugly but it makes him very anxious. Just like with Jasper, he gets tense even seeing the saddle come out. It became clear pretty quickly after I brought him home that there were a lot of holes in his training and what he really needed was to be started completely over from the ground up, which is what we did. He'll let me ride him and he's never offered to buck or anything like that but I want to get him to a place where he doesn't just tolerate it, where it doesn't make him so anxious. I saw a lot of him in Jasper.
Ryan, thanks for your honesty regarding the issues between horse and rider. Its a first in all training videos that I have watched, and I watch a lot ,where a professional like yourself in fact recommends another horse to a rider for safety's sake and a more pleasurable horse owner experience.
I’m sitting here with a heating pad on my lower back 7 weeks after having my horse scooted out from under me when I was bareback.☹️ Note to self: ride green horses with a saddle. I’m here to learn more so whenever I go to ride again I’ll have better odds of staying safer. I hope you do more videos with Jasper.
I won’t be but his new owner will. But I’ll keep you all posted on what he’s up to
@@ryanrosehorsemanship yes, please do! How fortunate to find a suitable owner for Jasper.
Ryan out there doing god’s work for the horses and the people 🙏🏻
Ryan I think that was really great advice and I admire the owner for her decision. Honestly, keeping him probably would have meant being stressed everytime she saddled up ! Riding is supposed to be enjoyable for both horse and rider ❤️
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Just for fun and giggles. You can’t turn an alfa God given nature of a horse into a submissive horse. Again, thank you for being honest with your clients!! Now they can make a wisdom filled choice! Thanks to you honesty!
Honest . Lmmfao. Watch the ENTIRE VIDEO. he is sweet and handsome so the ladies love him.