I subscribed despite not agreeing with a few points you raised, especially the infotainment system and the ride comfort. I have a 2023 OB Touring in Sydney, Australia. my previous 3 cars were Citroens with Hydractive suspension, so to me the ride comfort the OB offers is just barely OK, certainly not fantastic. The infotainment system, though, I find superb. No complaints whatsoever. Oh, and the headlights: I feel the Low Beam is so good, that the High Beam doesn't make much difference. Out of town I use the High Beam all the time, just leave it on High and the car automatically makes adjustments to the beam (still on High) in order not to blind oncoming traffic. It is not a matrix system so how it does it beats me, but it works very well.
I'm really surprised you found the seats uncomfortable for long rides. I have a 22 OB Touring and have taken several 500 miles road trips driving 8-9 hours and have found the seats very comfortable especially with the thigh extension as I'm 6 feet tall and I don't know any other vehicle in this price range that even offers a thigh extension. I do agree with the cooled seats, it's almost useless and now I never use it. Agree, the lane centering is about average, my wife has a 24 Pilot Touring and I find that to be a little smoother, but not by much. Would like to know what cars in this class you have found comfortable, it would be good to provide examples. Thanks for the video.
The one that immediately comes to mind with a leg extension (and more comfortable seats) would be the 2021-2023 Hyundai Santa Fe Limited (or Calligraphy). This would be extremely close in price and feature set but better driver assistance and technology. There would be a number and pros and cons to both as I like certain aspects to both vehicles but this would be one I would say could be compared.
Did your seats "break-in" and get softer on the butt after a few months and 5k miles. I'm tempted to purchase a layer on memory foam because this hurts and I have a cross country drive soon
@@kippywylie I'm at 48k on it now and have not noticed any difference in the seats. My wife has a 2024 Pilot and I prefer the OB seats. I especially appreciate the leg extension being 6 feet tall, I was surprised how much it changes the feel.
Just purchased a new 2024 Outback Limited with the 2.5 naturally aspirated engine. It's certainly enough power and I have better mpg and I don't need premium gas. Things I don't like are Subaru's touch screen demands distractions. There's touch screen stuff going on I simply do not like. One example in busy traffic I get low on gas... I see I'm low on the guage, I see the indicator light come on, but why would I need a third "reminder" the blocks out the entire infotainment screen with a warning and station suggestions. I agree the seat butts are painful over 2 hours. I also completly agree that Lane Centering is awful, but I use the less aggressive Lane Assist with all drives.
I just got 2024 Outback Touring none XT (with Java brown leather). I have no problems with the seat. I think it is better than my son 2020 Forester Touring.
OK.... And my biggest complaint that no one has a solution for is: How can I get Android Auto music to play at the same volume as the radio? Never an issue with any other vehicle but with my new Limited I MUST adjust the volume every time I turn off-on the ignition as Serious or FM screams loud for 40 seconds while it acquires Android Auto. I've tried everything
I don't know any of the changes off hand. Here is the press release for the 2025 model year media.subaru.com/pressrelease/2155/1/subaru-announces-pricing-2025-outback-suv-legacy-sedan
I have really been trying to figure out what small SUV to get as I am having a kid soon and I am stuck between this thing for its price ranges or the Honda CR-V hybrid for the better gas mileage and the slightly larger internal space.
Thank you so much for demonstrating the headlights. Very important. Surprised on the seat comfort and cooling of the seats. The Subaru driver nannies should have the ability to adjust the level of sensitivity. The beeping creates more stress of the driver.
Thank you! You can adjust the driver assistance sensitivity somewhat but not as much as other vehicles. I agree that the beeping noises can get annoying.
@@CarsMadeSimple What can I adjust on driver monitoring? I find Lane Centering to be useless with its "drunk" wandering, but also it demands a tight grip on the steering while
Incandescent bulbs are much cheap to change than an entire taillight assembly. I can buy incandescent bulbs at Walmart. I can't buy a taillight assembly at Walmart.
I do see some failures with LED assemblies but it's not wide spread. Also when LED's do fail, it's typically quicker rather than later which will fall under the warranty. Some failures are caused by external factors such as water intrusion which is a defect of the assemble but not related to being LED design.
I subscribed despite not agreeing with a few points you raised, especially the infotainment system and the ride comfort. I have a 2023 OB Touring in Sydney, Australia. my previous 3 cars were Citroens with Hydractive suspension, so to me the ride comfort the OB offers is just barely OK, certainly not fantastic. The infotainment system, though, I find superb. No complaints whatsoever. Oh, and the headlights: I feel the Low Beam is so good, that the High Beam doesn't make much difference. Out of town I use the High Beam all the time, just leave it on High and the car automatically makes adjustments to the beam (still on High) in order not to blind oncoming traffic. It is not a matrix system so how it does it beats me, but it works very well.
I'm really surprised you found the seats uncomfortable for long rides. I have a 22 OB Touring and have taken several 500 miles road trips driving 8-9 hours and have found the seats very comfortable especially with the thigh extension as I'm 6 feet tall and I don't know any other vehicle in this price range that even offers a thigh extension. I do agree with the cooled seats, it's almost useless and now I never use it. Agree, the lane centering is about average, my wife has a 24 Pilot Touring and I find that to be a little smoother, but not by much. Would like to know what cars in this class you have found comfortable, it would be good to provide examples. Thanks for the video.
The one that immediately comes to mind with a leg extension (and more comfortable seats) would be the 2021-2023 Hyundai Santa Fe Limited (or Calligraphy). This would be extremely close in price and feature set but better driver assistance and technology. There would be a number and pros and cons to both as I like certain aspects to both vehicles but this would be one I would say could be compared.
Did your seats "break-in" and get softer on the butt after a few months and 5k miles. I'm tempted to purchase a layer on memory foam because this hurts and I have a cross country drive soon
@@kippywylie I'm at 48k on it now and have not noticed any difference in the seats. My wife has a 2024 Pilot and I prefer the OB seats. I especially appreciate the leg extension being 6 feet tall, I was surprised how much it changes the feel.
Consider the price point, then do a do over.
Just purchased a new 2024 Outback Limited with the 2.5 naturally aspirated engine. It's certainly enough power and I have better mpg and I don't need premium gas. Things I don't like are Subaru's touch screen demands distractions. There's touch screen stuff going on I simply do not like. One example in busy traffic I get low on gas... I see I'm low on the guage, I see the indicator light come on, but why would I need a third "reminder" the blocks out the entire infotainment screen with a warning and station suggestions. I agree the seat butts are painful over 2 hours. I also completly agree that Lane Centering is awful, but I use the less aggressive Lane Assist with all drives.
I just got 2024 Outback Touring none XT (with Java brown leather). I have no problems with the seat. I think it is better than my son 2020 Forester Touring.
OK.... And my biggest complaint that no one has a solution for is: How can I get Android Auto music to play at the same volume as the radio? Never an issue with any other vehicle but with my new Limited I MUST adjust the volume every time I turn off-on the ignition as Serious or FM screams loud for 40 seconds while it acquires Android Auto. I've tried everything
Do you know of any changes from this 2024 to the now available 2025 model?
I don't know any of the changes off hand. Here is the press release for the 2025 model year media.subaru.com/pressrelease/2155/1/subaru-announces-pricing-2025-outback-suv-legacy-sedan
I have really been trying to figure out what small SUV to get as I am having a kid soon and I am stuck between this thing for its price ranges or the Honda CR-V hybrid for the better gas mileage and the slightly larger internal space.
Thank you so much for demonstrating the headlights. Very important. Surprised on the seat comfort and cooling of the seats. The Subaru driver nannies should have the ability to adjust the level of sensitivity. The beeping creates more stress of the driver.
Thank you! You can adjust the driver assistance sensitivity somewhat but not as much as other vehicles. I agree that the beeping noises can get annoying.
@@CarsMadeSimple What can I adjust on driver monitoring? I find Lane Centering to be useless with its "drunk" wandering, but also it demands a tight grip on the steering while
Name a perfect car.
No such thing but every car doesn't have the same strengths and weaknesses.
Incandescent bulbs are much cheap to change than an entire taillight assembly. I can buy incandescent bulbs at Walmart. I can't buy a taillight assembly at Walmart.
I do see some failures with LED assemblies but it's not wide spread. Also when LED's do fail, it's typically quicker rather than later which will fall under the warranty. Some failures are caused by external factors such as water intrusion which is a defect of the assemble but not related to being LED design.