I had never heard of this little episode and yet it is a wonderful bit of history. What I especially enjoy about this channel is, despite being reasonably well read in general history, I still get so many new and interesting details. Thank you.
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@@davidattig7301 I know next to nothing about what you're asking for... I feel like I've only heard tid-bits in passing, my whole life, but; I do know, now, that I need the History Guy to fix that, for all of us. Great freaking suggestion.
"...even if they never shot at each other". Especially because they didn't actually shot at each other! Sounds like one of those rare instances when clear heads prevailed in a wartime situation, avoiding unnecessary bloodshed.
The Dutch could've defeated the French cavalry as horses on ice are mostly stationary objects. Its most likely the Dutch commanders weighed the odds and looked at the BIG picture and the future, then took the best course of action. The Dutch could've put up a fight but their ships could've easily been set on fire which would flush the crews out to get slaughtered. Nothing positive would've been gained by being "heroic".
But why wouldn't the Dutch war ships just fire all their guns at the ice? The French on the ice would have drowned and the ones on shore wouldn't be able to approach the ships amidst the chaos.
@@dghrimwolf9442 in icey conditions there is a low tide at that spot so even if the ice is broken the cavelry will not drown. The shiphulls freeze out of the water and lay mostly on top of the ice. They aimed the most guns by aiming the ship itself in those days. Just walking with a burning torch to a wooden flammable ship had to be a nightmare for the Captain and crew
@@LuvBorderCollies Defeat the cavalry?? WRONG. 1) The cavalry was far more mobile than a ship immobilized - frozen in ice. 2) The cannons back then were deck mounted and only able to fire within an extremely limited angle - essentially perpendicular to the ship (hence the term 'broadsides'). All cavalry would need to do to avoid cannon fire is approach at angles a few degrees off of perpendicular. Just avoid 6 and 12 O'Clock and instead approach anywhere between 1 to 5 and 7 to 11 O'Clock. 3) With the 14 ships clustered together, there would be a number of angles where cannons could not be fired without hitting the fleet itself. 4) I've both walked and driven on frozen lakes, including ones which began to crack under load. While it's possible to punch through, I've found cracks do not propagate far from the origin of an applied load such as an object placed on top. When I heard a crack, I would shake up and down to get a sense of whether the crack tended to propagate or permit water to seep up. Unless the ice is very thin, it is more forgiving than brittle. Based on this, it's likely that had sections been damaged by cannon fire, they would remain very localized. That damage would be an ineffective deterrent and self repairing once it re-froze.
@@gregparrott I've spent all my life in the north central US so I'm very familiar with ice on ponds, lakes and rivers(most dangerous). You are inserting a lot of conjecture into your thinking. A flat trajectory projectile whether small or large caliber rifle will merely bounce and skip across the ice since the cannons were so close to the surface. Only a high angle of fire from mortars would have broken the ice as you envision. Also, you're forgetting all the Dutch Marines on board the ships who could move rapidly on the wooden planks better than any man or horse could on the ice. So no matter how much the French could've moved around they would have been met by the defending Marines. The Dutch Marines had a history and tradition of doing tough and unconventional(unexpected) movements/attacks long before this event, like when they rescued Copenhagen from the Swedish blockade. I'm thoroughly convinced the Dutch commanders considered the long term strategic consequences and decided to live to fight another day, which at that time could be a new foe next week. All the kingdoms changed allies like we change underwear.
My compliments, Historyman, for all your videos! As a Dutchman, it feels good that some interesting episodes in Dutch history are also known outside our country. Some other examples are the 3 sea wars between the Dutch Republic and England, 2 of which were wun by the Dutch and in which the Dutch Republican Navy under Admiral Michiel De Ruyter actually invaded England at Chatham. It was for the first time in history that sea soldiers eg marines were deployed (by the Dutch). Other episodes could be the Eighty Year War against Spain. Or the Battle in the Java sea in WW 2. Or the battle around The Hague in wich a large part of the German Luftwaffe transport aircraft fleet (Ju 52’s) was destroyed.
I wouldn't call it an invasion as the Dutch didn't stay, in English it's usually known as the "Raid on the Medway". A stunning success for the Dutch and a huge embarrassment for the Royal Navy and King Charles II.
The fact the Dutch fleet was frozen stuck in a sea port that normally has no sea ice at all gives some insight into the events. Whereas the Republic always managed to rely on inundating vast areas to keep out invaders, that year they could cross the ice with such ease that the defense lines that relied on liquid water collapsed. What is also very important is that the ideas of French revolution were very popular in the republic which had enough of elitist politicians who looted the coffers and lived on graft (sounds familiar?). I would also like to stress that this invasion was BEFORE Napoleon and was invited by the revolutionaries in the Dutch republic. Invading is much easier when supported by large groups of locals that can tell you exactly how and when to act. The result of the invasion was the institution of the "Bataafse Republiek" and was still independent, though allied with the French republic. Only later was the Netherlands occupied by Napoleon Bonaparte who installed his brother Louis to be king of the Netherlands. Curiously, it was only then that the Netherlands became a monarchy, which many people regret to this day. On a personal note. This army of invaders from France was hardly the organised units of later age, but revolutionaries spreading the bliss. They were conscripted, ill equipped troops for the main part and after the campaign the army was not needed anymore. Also due to high amounts of people that were vested in the revolution ideas, probably lots also fleeing it and unwanted in general. Armies are expensive and payments were far apart. As a result, much of the army deserted. One of my ancestors was so lucky as to find a nice buxom Frisian woman and survived.
Chubby Moth the only fact about this that bothers me is that supposedly many people regret the monarchy until this day. That sounds like a completely baseless fact, and in particular the idea that today so many people regret the monarchy sounds very unlike what I hear and see around me.
@@janvanruth3485 Hier een beetje gedatterd NOS onderzoek over de monarchie: nos.nl/artikel/2101607-draagvlak-voor-monarchie-daalt-fors.html Circa 16% blijkt republikein te zijn, circa 20% maakt her niet uit, blijft over ongeveer 65% dus 2/3 pro monarchie.
Can it be that climate has always been variable, so that the current man-made "climate change" is a political myth? Especially given that it takes twenty-six thousand years for the to return to the same orbit around the Sun: th-cam.com/video/82p-DYgGFjI/w-d-xo.html
@@commonsense4993 No, because our orbit has been nearly circular for the last 100,000 years. And the sun's output has been declining for around 35 years now. Which means we're getting less energy, but still heating up.
@commonsense - it is the rate of change that is startling and differentiates from slower changes due to non-circularity of earth’s orbit. The “politics” are primarily fossil fuel industry trying to sow confusion (actually, more coal supporters as most of the major oil companies have accepted human role in climate change) See NASA explanation: climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/
Common Sense It seems to me that we humans are predisposed to imagine that the way things are is the way things have always been. Many people these days, I suspect, are first introduced to the idea of climate change when they learn about the anthropogenic rise in greenhouse gasses that has been accelerating over the past two centuries. Some, perhaps, don’t realize that our technological advances account for but one driver among thousands that can alter the climate. But it does have an affect and it’s one we can control. It would be a myth to think that the earth has provided an ideal climate for humans for 4.5 billions of years and that we are being punished for our hubris in developing technology for supporting our prosperity. The reality is that earth’s climate would have been hostile to human life for >99% of its existence. We’re here on a fluke! Technology will be our salvation, but we’ve got to take responsibility over the things that determine whether the earth’s climate will be conducive to human life. We can’t do anything about the Milankovitch cycles, but our capacity to impact the amount of carbon in the atmosphere matters far more. In fact, if we have the political will, we can make the earth more habitable for humans than it has ever been - but we have to exercise discipline and coordination that’s absolutely unprecedented in our history. That is no political myth. The alternative is extinction-and there’s PLENTY of precedence for that!!!
This reminds me of the time I was driving on the freeway and got pulled over by a cop who was standing on the side of the road. When you're stuck, you're stuck. There's not much you can do about it.
So I must assume the "cavalry" were "pirates" as all "intriguing naval battles" must include PIRATES. :-) Thank you for the well presented history lesson.
It was a battle in 1585 where 150 war ships more or less where captured by infantry The battle was call The miracle of Empel ! And is history that deserves to be remembered!
Dès qu'un succès français(fut-il léger dans le contexte je le reconnais)s'est historiquement déroulé,le point de vue anglo-saxon s'empresse d'en alléger l'importance.C'est assez typique. Si britanniques ou américains par exemple avaient accompli la même chose,ils en auraient fait des tonnes et Hollywood en aurait tiré des dizaines de films et autant de feuilletons! Nous en avons l'habitude.
Yet another stellar telling of a historical event that if it ever was mentioned in school, was probably a one-liner - Dutch fleet surrenders to French. The depth that you bring to history is amazing. Can you do one with us all sitting around a fire watching the stars?
The Laki Icelandic volcanic eruption from 1783-1784 and the El Niño weather patterns that followed up through 1793 caused extremely cold weather, food shortages, and much social unrest. These were very difficult years and a weakened population was showing it's limits. Resistance against attacks was far below levels seen during prosperous warmer years.
Confederate Cavalry Capt. J.J. Dickinson attacked and captured the Union Navy gunboat Columbia on May 22, 1864, on the St. John’s River in Florida. It was called the Battle of Horse Landing. Another instance of a cavalry unit taking a navy vessel.
So, a privately "hired for benefit" armed band travelling on sea attacked and seized the officially ruling government's fleet. Does that make them hussar pirates? :)
I look forwards to your postings,you have the most interesting content I’ve managed too find on TH-cam Thank you very much for your entertaining historical films I enjoy them immensely 😃👍👍
Another great historical episode in our worlds history. It’s amazing how small the world has become in the last 300 years and how we now share in its history! Can’t wait for your next lesson History Guy! Thank you!!
This now has me wanting to learn more of Europe during this time frame. I also have a suggestion for your consideration, the city of Richmond, Ca home of one of the Kaiser Shipyards during WW2. There they built Victory ships. The influence upon the community was a massive population explosion and housing needs. Plus the large number of ships produced in that yard. Thank you for your channel.
Many of the events & people that you include in your programs I already know (seemingly) about, but y'all always include things that I didn't know or had forgotten ... THANKS! ++ (@moremishistoryguy !)
Is a "history guy" app in the plans yet?!? I say that because these programs sure would benefit kids in classrooms ... not only knowledge, but inspiration for them to dig deeper!!
What a fascinating piece of history! Never heard it before, not even at the maritime history section of Leiden University...but then, it was not a resounding victory for the navy of the Dutch Republic. The extreme cold that winter was actually one of the reasons behind the military defeat of the Dutch Republic. Normally the "Waterlinie", a line of flooded land would protect the west of the Republic (Chubby Moth mentions this below). It ran between the Zuiderzee (close to Amsterdam) and the rivers in the south (close to Rotterdam) would keep out foreign armies and many times it did. But in the winter of 1795 the rivers froze and the "Waterlinie" could not be filled with water. Interestingly enough the engineers needed a couple of days to flood the system. It was no coïncidence that the fortress at Maastricht in the south and the fortified town of Groningen in the North were at just the right distance to send a courier to the west in time to flood the "Waterlinie". The military commanders of the House of Orange never received any money from the Estates General (where the rich Amsterdam merchants held power) to push beyond those limits...The Netherlands Republic was a military construction which collapsed in 1795. The surrender of 1795 did not much to preserve the fleet. When it set sail in support of the French invasion of Ireland it was defeated at the Battle of Camperdown on October 11th 1797 in spite of the heroic stand of some ships of the line like the "Delft". Its surrender to French Cavalry two years before will now be remembered!
I don't usually get drawn into war history ... this has to be the best conflict I've ever learned about :-) Thank you for revealing such an ironic moment.
HG, there was no 'Austrian Empire' until 1804, when the Holy Roman Emperor, Franz II, realised the HRE's days were numbered. Prior to that, he ruled over the Archduchy of Austria and the rest of the Habsburg Lands.
The island of texel saw the last battle of europe in ww2 called the “georgian uprising” this is a story that is unknown by most people. I would love to see a video about it.
Just like how the last Dutch East India Company fleet was captured by the English, this part of our history was never told in school. I wonder why? In Dutch een huzarenstukje is a daring exploit. The word contains the Dutch word for hussars: huzaren. To the French hussars it must have been a scary adventure of horses on uncertain sea ice and a not so certain outcome, best told sitting by the fireside and with lots of alcohol and good company. Still, one of those slightly bizarre events that makes such good material for this channel. Thanks for the video.
Lived in Den Helder off and on in the '80's and visited often in later years. Lived on the Krugerstraat, in fact. Never heard this story before. And such a sensible "battle" too. No shooting, very calm. Very Dutch! Den Helder is still home to the Dutch navy, and I'm pretty sure they don't allow themselves to get stuck in ice anymore. Lol!
Very interesting bit of history I knew nothing about. A few years ago I read Simon Scarrow’s 4 set books about the Napoleonic battles and there was a part about Britain’s early efforts during the 1st Coalition war. The young Colonel Arthur Wellesley experienced combat for the first time as the British retreated and had to endure that same brutal winter. It sounded like a mini version of what the French went through on the retreat from Moscow.
Thank you for this information. I did not know this. I'm living in Bergen 40 km from Den Helder. By the way in my village there was a battle in 1799 where the British and Russian force landed at Camperduin and were beaten by the French ( and Patriot) army.
Thank you Stan for the reply. As far as I know this battle of Camperdown (Camperduin) was on the 11th of October 1797. The battle of Bergen was at 19th of september 1799
3:25 "At least 14 Dutch warships, manned by 5000 sailors and marines with 850 guns,...were all Oranges..." Does that mean they were, (ahem), "Naval Oranges"?
I’m Dutch and have never heard about this strange event. Very Nice !! But I’m sure that horses running on ice Will give a lot of accidents and broken horselegs
To be able to win a battle without firing a shot, without either side losing a life, is excellent for the commander, not to be looked down upon in the slightest.
The British were still ticked off at the Dutch for supporting the American Revolution. The two countries had an on-again/off-again relationship for several centuries, but that was very common in European history. Its quite complicated.
Actually, during the American Civil War, Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest’s cavalry defeated a Union naval force at Johnsonville, Tennessee. Forrest’s cavalry dragged cannons to the top of a bluff overlooking the Union ships sank four gunboats, 14 transports, and 20 barges. They also captured 150 prisoners, yet Forrest only had two men killed and nine wounded.
History That Deserves To Be Remembered is found in this episode, of how a Calvary captured a fkeet of ships. Great telling by the Master Teacher The History Guy.
Dear History Guy, how did you find this piece of remarkable history? The why is answered; capture of a fleet by cavalry and yes a story worth to be remembered indeed :)
considering the state of the french economy after the revolution, it's amazing to me that the leaders of the revolution and napoleon later on, believed that embarking on offensive wars was a good idea, as opposed to defensive wars against invading powers, which would have been fewer in number, as well as more morally and practically justifiable.
The thing is, after the Seven Years War, France decided to reform almost completely his army and equipment. French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars had (also) this military legacy in the pocket.
I'll tell you right now, no one in their right minds would go charging on horse back across a icy surface, they approached in formation I'm sure, but a full gallop, or even a med gallop; NO WAY
Agreed. Hard to imagine that they could have charged across ice at all, even if it would have held them. It's still, you know, slippery, and I would not want to be a on a charging horse that went down on the ice.
I agree. Any hoofed animal is severely handicapped on ice. Pretty sure the French horses walked and they approached from the rear of the ships if possible to avoid the guns.
This is new for me - I'm pretty sure we never saw anything about it when we toured the museums of Amsterdam! Given it was ten years before the Battle of Trafalgar and another ten after that to the Battle of Waterloo, it is notable - if not actually remarkable - that we - the British - played little or no part. I know the tales of astonishing events during that winter echo through British history, but it is difficult to speculate on which side the British would have fought, had they been involved? Perhaps it was one of those rare occasions when the Perfidious Albion had no dog in the fight?
I have one for you. Actually, I have several. A few years ago I came across something about an American warship being damaged in the Shimonoseki campaign. That stopped me cold. The US getting involved in an entire foreign war during the Civil War! I've looked at this since and found that the US got involved with a lot of wars during the Civil War, mostly Indian wars, including The Dakota Uprising, which happened in my home state. And you just have to do the Cortina Wars.
The Batavian fleet would go on to be defeated by Admiral Duncan's (British)North Sea fleet in 1797 it's self recovering from the Great Mutiny that had crippled the Royal Navy that year , the Battle of Camperdown was notable for a few things the larger than usual British casualties ,a famous example of Colours literally being nailed to a mast and the valour of the Gunners wife aboard HMS Ardent as well as the prominent role played by William Bligh of Bounty fame in the action . The conflict of loyalties between Dutch Republicans and Royalists would be exploited by the British in 1799 at Vlieter causing a large number of Dutch ships to surrender after the crews mutinied rather than fight for the Republic .
I had never heard of this little episode and yet it is a wonderful bit of history. What I especially enjoy about this channel is, despite being reasonably well read in general history, I still get so many new and interesting details. Thank you.
The oddity of a naval fleet surrendering to cavalry reminds me of the WWII incident in which a submarine "sank" a train.
what that story??
This timeline of the revolution in France is crazy to learn about
People often confuse the French Revolutionary Wars with the Napoleonic Wars. It was a period of near constant conflict.
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered If you’re taking requests, I’ve always been fascinated with units of measurement in the aftermath of the French Revolution. Like the rise and fall of metric time, and how the French system of measurements eventually transformed to modern SI units. Or even more recent fights within academia and industry between the centimeter-gram-second units and meter-kilogram-second units.
They might had also been at war with the United States the quasi-war :-D
@@davidattig7301 I know next to nothing about what you're asking for... I feel like I've only heard tid-bits in passing, my whole life, but; I do know, now, that I need the History Guy to fix that, for all of us.
Great freaking suggestion.
Well it's a way more important and interesting part of history than ww2 imo.
As usual, Lance, you take an unknown event and turn it into a fascinating account of history. Thank you.
Morning History Guy; work 3rd shift and live near my home. Always listen your videos on my drive home. Thanks for posting!
You live near your home?
Lol sorry live near were I work!
I'm amazed that you are consistently able to present fascinating pieces of history, a topic I've always considered rather dry.
"...even if they never shot at each other". Especially because they didn't actually shot at each other! Sounds like one of those rare instances when clear heads prevailed in a wartime situation, avoiding unnecessary bloodshed.
The Dutch could've defeated the French cavalry as horses on ice are mostly stationary objects. Its most likely the Dutch commanders weighed the odds and looked at the BIG picture and the future, then took the best course of action. The Dutch could've put up a fight but their ships could've easily been set on fire which would flush the crews out to get slaughtered. Nothing positive would've been gained by being "heroic".
But why wouldn't the Dutch war ships just fire all their guns at the ice? The French on the ice would have drowned and the ones on shore wouldn't be able to approach the ships amidst the chaos.
@@dghrimwolf9442 in icey conditions there is a low tide at that spot so even if the ice is broken the cavelry will not drown.
The shiphulls freeze out of the water and lay mostly on top of the ice.
They aimed the most guns by aiming the ship itself in those days.
Just walking with a burning torch to a wooden flammable ship had to be a nightmare for the Captain and crew
@@LuvBorderCollies Defeat the cavalry?? WRONG.
1) The cavalry was far more mobile than a ship immobilized - frozen in ice.
2) The cannons back then were deck mounted and only able to fire within an extremely limited angle - essentially perpendicular to the ship (hence the term 'broadsides'). All cavalry would need to do to avoid cannon fire is approach at angles a few degrees off of perpendicular. Just avoid 6 and 12 O'Clock and instead approach anywhere between 1 to 5 and 7 to 11 O'Clock.
3) With the 14 ships clustered together, there would be a number of angles where cannons could not be fired without hitting the fleet itself.
4) I've both walked and driven on frozen lakes, including ones which began to crack under load. While it's possible to punch through, I've found cracks do not propagate far from the origin of an applied load such as an object placed on top. When I heard a crack, I would shake up and down to get a sense of whether the crack tended to propagate or permit water to seep up. Unless the ice is very thin, it is more forgiving than brittle. Based on this, it's likely that had sections been damaged by cannon fire, they would remain very localized. That damage would be an ineffective deterrent and self repairing once it re-froze.
@@gregparrott I've spent all my life in the north central US so I'm very familiar with ice on ponds, lakes and rivers(most dangerous). You are inserting a lot of conjecture into your thinking. A flat trajectory projectile whether small or large caliber rifle will merely bounce and skip across the ice since the cannons were so close to the surface. Only a high angle of fire from mortars would have broken the ice as you envision.
Also, you're forgetting all the Dutch Marines on board the ships who could move rapidly on the wooden planks better than any man or horse could on the ice. So no matter how much the French could've moved around they would have been met by the defending Marines.
The Dutch Marines had a history and tradition of doing tough and unconventional(unexpected) movements/attacks long before this event, like when they rescued Copenhagen from the Swedish blockade.
I'm thoroughly convinced the Dutch commanders considered the long term strategic consequences and decided to live to fight another day, which at that time could be a new foe next week. All the kingdoms changed allies like we change underwear.
The french replaced their own monarchy with a republic and replaced the Dutch republic with a monarchy.
One of many great ironies in history
Sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.
Feel the Irony in that. 😊
They just annexed the thing some years later to be part of an Empire lol
This is why I love this channel - truly fascinating stories you will unlikely come across without digging through a lot of dry history. Thanks THG.
Fantastic channel. Eloquently spoken. Straight to the facts yet told in a gripping manner. Interesting information. Not interrupted by ads.
10/10
You never post a boring video. Thank you for keeping these stories alive and education the rest of us.
My compliments, Historyman, for all your videos! As a Dutchman, it feels good that some interesting episodes in Dutch history are also known outside our country. Some other examples are the 3 sea wars between the Dutch Republic and England, 2 of which were wun by the Dutch and in which the Dutch Republican Navy under Admiral Michiel De Ruyter actually invaded England at Chatham. It was for the first time in history that sea soldiers eg marines were deployed (by the Dutch). Other episodes could be the Eighty Year War against Spain. Or the Battle in the Java sea in WW 2. Or the battle around The Hague in wich a large part of the German Luftwaffe transport aircraft fleet (Ju 52’s) was destroyed.
I wouldn't call it an invasion as the Dutch didn't stay, in English it's usually known as the "Raid on the Medway". A stunning success for the Dutch and a huge embarrassment for the Royal Navy and King Charles II.
GWTPict GWTPict you are right indeed Sir. It was a raid and as such it is known over here as well, well by the history minded people anyway.
Excellent conclusions in the final commentary regarding how history can be spun in the end....
... and no puns intended.
History is fascinating with HG at the helm
The fact the Dutch fleet was frozen stuck in a sea port that normally has no sea ice at all gives some insight into the events. Whereas the Republic always managed to rely on inundating vast areas to keep out invaders, that year they could cross the ice with such ease that the defense lines that relied on liquid water collapsed. What is also very important is that the ideas of French revolution were very popular in the republic which had enough of elitist politicians who looted the coffers and lived on graft (sounds familiar?).
I would also like to stress that this invasion was BEFORE Napoleon and was invited by the revolutionaries in the Dutch republic. Invading is much easier when supported by large groups of locals that can tell you exactly how and when to act. The result of the invasion was the institution of the "Bataafse Republiek" and was still independent, though allied with the French republic. Only later was the Netherlands occupied by Napoleon Bonaparte who installed his brother Louis to be king of the Netherlands. Curiously, it was only then that the Netherlands became a monarchy, which many people regret to this day.
On a personal note. This army of invaders from France was hardly the organised units of later age, but revolutionaries spreading the bliss. They were conscripted, ill equipped troops for the main part and after the campaign the army was not needed anymore. Also due to high amounts of people that were vested in the revolution ideas, probably lots also fleeing it and unwanted in general. Armies are expensive and payments were far apart. As a result, much of the army deserted. One of my ancestors was so lucky as to find a nice buxom Frisian woman and survived.
Chubby Moth the only fact about this that bothers me is that supposedly many people regret the monarchy until this day. That sounds like a completely baseless fact, and in particular the idea that today so many people regret the monarchy sounds very unlike what I hear and see around me.
@@roosjen all depends on what you call "many"
@@janvanruth3485 Hier een beetje gedatterd NOS onderzoek over de monarchie: nos.nl/artikel/2101607-draagvlak-voor-monarchie-daalt-fors.html
Circa 16% blijkt republikein te zijn, circa 20% maakt her niet uit, blijft over ongeveer 65% dus 2/3 pro monarchie.
jan van ruth it does indeed, which is why his remark bothered me so much.
"so many people regret the monarchy" and "16% of dutch adults are republic supporter" are not conflicting.
16% is a great many people.
Just another vignette from the Little Ice Age. Many aspects of history were influenced by this cold period that lasted for over 300 years.
Can it be that climate has always been variable, so that the current man-made "climate change" is a political myth?
Especially given that it takes twenty-six thousand years for the to return to the same orbit around the Sun: th-cam.com/video/82p-DYgGFjI/w-d-xo.html
@eclemensen WTF? HEY! Halloween is my favorite holiday! Does Larry have a soldering gun? Only one shoe at a rest stop in New Jersey!
@@commonsense4993
No, because our orbit has been nearly circular for the last 100,000 years. And the sun's output has been declining for around 35 years now. Which means we're getting less energy, but still heating up.
@commonsense - it is the rate of change that is startling and differentiates from slower changes due to non-circularity of earth’s orbit. The “politics” are primarily fossil fuel industry trying to sow confusion (actually, more coal supporters as most of the major oil companies have accepted human role in climate change) See NASA explanation: climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/
Common Sense
It seems to me that we humans are predisposed to imagine that the way things are is the way things have always been. Many people these days, I suspect, are first introduced to the idea of climate change when they learn about the anthropogenic rise in greenhouse gasses that has been accelerating over the past two centuries. Some, perhaps, don’t realize that our technological advances account for but one driver among thousands that can alter the climate.
But it does have an affect and it’s one we can control.
It would be a myth to think that the earth has provided an ideal climate for humans for 4.5 billions of years and that we are being punished for our hubris in developing technology for supporting our prosperity. The reality is that earth’s climate would have been hostile to human life for >99% of its existence. We’re here on a fluke!
Technology will be our salvation, but we’ve got to take responsibility over the things that determine whether the earth’s climate will be conducive to human life. We can’t do anything about the Milankovitch cycles, but our capacity to impact the amount of carbon in the atmosphere matters far more.
In fact, if we have the political will, we can make the earth more habitable for humans than it has ever been - but we have to exercise discipline and coordination that’s absolutely unprecedented in our history.
That is no political myth. The alternative is extinction-and there’s PLENTY of precedence for that!!!
This reminds me of the time I was driving on the freeway and got pulled over by a cop who was standing on the side of the road. When you're stuck, you're stuck. There's not much you can do about it.
My Monday morning just got alot better!
So I must assume the "cavalry" were "pirates" as all "intriguing naval battles" must include PIRATES. :-) Thank you for the well presented history lesson.
They were bandidos, rather: I find this denominative fits better when we’re talking horse mounted buddies 😁
@@jetaddicted : Touché. Well called.
Never bring ship to cavalry charge.
It was a battle in 1585 where 150 war ships more or less where captured by infantry
The battle was call The miracle of Empel !
And is history that deserves to be remembered!
Dès qu'un succès français(fut-il léger dans le contexte je le reconnais)s'est historiquement déroulé,le point de vue anglo-saxon s'empresse d'en alléger l'importance.C'est assez typique.
Si britanniques ou américains par exemple avaient accompli la même chose,ils en auraient fait des tonnes et Hollywood en aurait tiré des dizaines de films et autant de feuilletons!
Nous en avons l'habitude.
Another great video. Thank you.
Yet another stellar telling of a historical event that if it ever was mentioned in school, was probably a one-liner - Dutch fleet surrenders to French. The depth that you bring to history is amazing. Can you do one with us all sitting around a fire watching the stars?
The Laki Icelandic volcanic eruption from 1783-1784 and the El Niño weather patterns that followed up through 1793 caused extremely cold weather, food shortages, and much social unrest. These were very difficult years and a weakened population was showing it's limits. Resistance against attacks was far below levels seen during prosperous warmer years.
Thank you. History deserves to be remembered.
He just keeps getting better.
Confederate Cavalry Capt. J.J. Dickinson attacked and captured the Union Navy gunboat Columbia on May 22, 1864, on the St. John’s River in Florida. It was called the Battle of Horse Landing. Another instance of a cavalry unit taking a navy vessel.
So, a privately "hired for benefit" armed band travelling on sea attacked and seized the officially ruling government's fleet. Does that make them hussar pirates? :)
Privateers?!?!?!? ;-)
I love Den Helder's solo on "Hotel California".
I look forwards to your postings,you have the most interesting content I’ve managed too find on TH-cam Thank you very much for your entertaining historical films I enjoy them immensely 😃👍👍
Den Helder is still the site of the Dutch Navy. I was there working for the US Navy 20 years ago.
I had to hear this. I was not sure how it was going to happen. Did not see a frozen bay as a means to let that happen. Great work.
A similar incident of cavalry capturing naval forces happened in the career of Jose Antonio Paez - a man who deserves his own episode
No one said history could not be humorous. Thanks!
Another great historical episode in our worlds history. It’s amazing how small the world has become in the last 300 years and how we now share in its history! Can’t wait for your next lesson History Guy! Thank you!!
This now has me wanting to learn more of Europe during this time frame. I also have a suggestion for your consideration, the city of Richmond, Ca home of one of the Kaiser Shipyards during WW2. There they built Victory ships. The influence upon the community was a massive population explosion and housing needs. Plus the large number of ships produced in that yard. Thank you for your channel.
Many of the events & people that you include in your programs I already know (seemingly) about, but y'all always include things that I didn't know or had forgotten ... THANKS!
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(@moremishistoryguy !)
Imagine that scene though must’ve have been crazy. History is so fascinating.
No pirates????? Tragedy...
Great video. Love these lost stories from history. Love this channel.
Great story, thanks!
I Love History!
History Guy Thank You!
Is a "history guy" app in the plans yet?!?
I say that because these programs sure would benefit kids in classrooms ... not only knowledge, but inspiration for them to dig deeper!!
Tune em in to youtube.
A bit of history I had never heard before!
because this event occured on my birthday, ive always wanted someone to make a video about this
Thank you for sharing this history lesson with us I don't think I have ever heard about that before and that is crazy if you think about it
Freeze! Put your hands where I can see them... Another classic from the one and only History Guy..
Fun and fascinating to think of the Dutch Surgeon looking out the portal and seeing horses
Where's the outro? I miss it.
Very fascinating video. I'd heard of this little event, but never to this level of detail.
Thanks for that.
I remember being taught about this at school - that was a good few years ago! 1965 I think! This sort of thing stays with you.
Nice to read that so many fellow Dutch people also follow this great channel... I ♥️ THG
Really nice art work about the event...
What a fascinating piece of history! Never heard it before, not even at the maritime history section of Leiden University...but then, it was not a resounding victory for the navy of the Dutch Republic. The extreme cold that winter was actually one of the reasons behind the military defeat of the Dutch Republic. Normally the "Waterlinie", a line of flooded land would protect the west of the Republic (Chubby Moth mentions this below). It ran between the Zuiderzee (close to Amsterdam) and the rivers in the south (close to Rotterdam) would keep out foreign armies and many times it did. But in the winter of 1795 the rivers froze and the "Waterlinie" could not be filled with water. Interestingly enough the engineers needed a couple of days to flood the system. It was no coïncidence that the fortress at Maastricht in the south and the fortified town of Groningen in the North were at just the right distance to send a courier to the west in time to flood the "Waterlinie". The military commanders of the House of Orange never received any money from the Estates General (where the rich Amsterdam merchants held power) to push beyond those limits...The Netherlands Republic was a military construction which collapsed in 1795. The surrender of 1795 did not much to preserve the fleet. When it set sail in support of the French invasion of Ireland it was defeated at the Battle of Camperdown on October 11th 1797 in spite of the heroic stand of some ships of the line like the "Delft". Its surrender to French Cavalry two years before will now be remembered!
You , Sir, have an impressive and delightful assortment of bow ties.
Stellar video
Such a peculiar singularity! A cavalry of seahorses! Astonishing report! Thank you for this!
Seems like this video is missing the outro. Still, great one, as always.
Very cool story, thank you!
I don't usually get drawn into war history ... this has to be the best conflict I've ever learned about :-)
Thank you for revealing such an ironic moment.
Admiral Reyntjes apparently died a few years later during a battle against the British. I noticed his tombstone in the great church of Monnickendam.
Dutch Navy frozen at Texal
French: *It's free real estate.*
These days Texel looks more like a German colony.
I'm from the Netherlands myself and I've never even heard of this event.
I am much relieved that you have finally tamed your wandering bow ties.
Another interesting piece of history with pirates mounted on horse back.
Could you put an outro back in. Algorithm me damned. The ending needs a wrap.
Great story!
HG, there was no 'Austrian Empire' until 1804, when the Holy Roman Emperor, Franz II, realised the HRE's days were numbered. Prior to that, he ruled over the Archduchy of Austria and the rest of the Habsburg Lands.
The island of texel saw the last battle of europe in ww2 called the “georgian uprising” this is a story that is unknown by most people. I would love to see a video about it.
I don't know if you know dutch. But there is a great book about it
@@firelight193 "Tragedie op Texel"
@@elricthebald870 die kende ik niet. Ik bedoelde Opstand der Georgiërs
Volgens mij heeft 'Andere Tijden' daar ooit een aflevering van gemaakt.
Just like how the last Dutch East India Company fleet was captured by the English, this part of our history was never told in school. I wonder why?
In Dutch een huzarenstukje is a daring exploit. The word contains the Dutch word for hussars: huzaren.
To the French hussars it must have been a scary adventure of horses on uncertain sea ice and a not so certain outcome, best told sitting by the fireside and with lots of alcohol and good company.
Still, one of those slightly bizarre events that makes such good material for this channel. Thanks for the video.
I was respectfully wondering if you would be able to cover the Taffy III. I’m newly subscribed and catching up on all the videos.
Lived in Den Helder off and on in the '80's and visited often in later years. Lived on the Krugerstraat, in fact. Never heard this story before. And such a sensible "battle" too. No shooting, very calm. Very Dutch! Den Helder is still home to the Dutch navy, and I'm pretty sure they don't allow themselves to get stuck in ice anymore. Lol!
Topic suggestion: The 1967 USS Forrestal fire, July 29, 1967
Funny to learn about my country's history from someone in the States! Good job and thanks. 😀
And nowadays it snows maybe every other year in the Netherlands. Thank you for another interesting video!
Very interesting bit of history I knew nothing about. A few years ago I read Simon Scarrow’s 4 set books about the Napoleonic battles and there was a part about Britain’s early efforts during the 1st Coalition war. The young Colonel Arthur Wellesley experienced combat for the first time as the British retreated and had to endure that same brutal winter. It sounded like a mini version of what the French went through on the retreat from Moscow.
Thank you for this information. I did not know this. I'm living in Bergen 40 km from Den Helder. By the way in my village there was a battle in 1799 where the British and Russian force landed at Camperduin and were beaten by the French ( and Patriot) army.
Aren't you mixing up the coalition landing with the battle of Camperdown
Thank you Stan for the reply. As far as I know this battle of Camperdown (Camperduin) was on the 11th of October 1797. The battle of Bergen was at 19th of september 1799
Reminds me of General Forrest having Union gunboats surrender at Ft. Pillow, Tn
3:25 "At least 14 Dutch warships, manned by 5000 sailors and marines with 850 guns,...were all Oranges..." Does that mean they were, (ahem), "Naval Oranges"?
@Cathalyne Batavian u missed the joke
I’m Dutch and have never heard about this strange event. Very Nice !! But I’m sure that horses running on ice Will give a lot of accidents and broken horselegs
Love it, great bit of History,
Den Helder my home town, but it wa.called Helder in that time. and it was a little village not a town.
Reminds me of the battle during the American civil war between Forest's calvery and Union barges on the Tennessee river at Pilots Knob
To be able to win a battle without firing a shot, without either side losing a life, is excellent for the commander, not to be looked down upon in the slightest.
The British were still ticked off at the Dutch for supporting the American Revolution. The two countries had an on-again/off-again relationship for several centuries, but that was very common in European history. Its quite complicated.
Fact is stranger than fiction! Hard to believe, but I thank you none the less.
I always liked Den Helder, especially when he was in the Eagles. Great guitarist! :)
Wow! A battle without killing, boy if that were only true today.
Well, we have cyber war going on against hackers from other countries. Nobody gets killed, it's just computers being compromised and pillaged.
Actually, during the American Civil War, Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest’s cavalry defeated a Union naval force at Johnsonville, Tennessee. Forrest’s cavalry dragged cannons to the top of a bluff overlooking the Union ships sank four gunboats, 14 transports, and 20 barges. They also captured 150 prisoners, yet Forrest only had two men killed and nine wounded.
History That Deserves To Be Remembered is found in this episode, of how a Calvary captured a fkeet of ships. Great telling by the Master Teacher The History Guy.
Spent an entire summer at that exact spot. Froze my arse off !!
Dear History Guy, how did you find this piece of remarkable history?
The why is answered; capture of a fleet by cavalry and yes a story worth to be remembered indeed :)
considering the state of the french economy after the revolution, it's amazing to me that the leaders of the revolution and napoleon later on, believed that embarking on offensive wars was a good idea, as opposed to defensive wars against invading powers, which would have been fewer in number, as well as more morally and practically justifiable.
best defense is attack, Napoleon did that and beat most of the coalitions
If you really look at who declared all the wars during that period (1792-1815) it was mostly the "Allies" and all their coalitions
The thing is, after the Seven Years War, France decided to reform almost completely his army and equipment. French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars had (also) this military legacy in the pocket.
9 dislikes!!!!???? “I PITTY THE FOOLS”
French probably..
PICHEGRU DIDNT KILL HIMSELF!!!!
Yes, it seems unlikely that he strangled himself.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel he just shot himself in the back of the head with his flintlock musket while having his hands tied in front of his body.
He had dirt on Hillary.
Get over it. He was an ancestor of Epstein.
this is the first thing that came to mind!!!! hahahaha The Clintons go back along way lol
I'll tell you right now, no one in their right minds would go charging on horse back across a icy surface, they approached in formation I'm sure, but a full gallop, or even a med gallop; NO WAY
Agreed. Hard to imagine that they could have charged across ice at all, even if it would have held them. It's still, you know, slippery, and I would not want to be a on a charging horse that went down on the ice.
I agree. Any hoofed animal is severely handicapped on ice. Pretty sure the French horses walked and they approached from the rear of the ships if possible to avoid the guns.
This is new for me - I'm pretty sure we never saw anything about it when we toured the museums of Amsterdam! Given it was ten years before the Battle of Trafalgar and another ten after that to the Battle of Waterloo, it is notable - if not actually remarkable - that we - the British - played little or no part. I know the tales of astonishing events during that winter echo through British history, but it is difficult to speculate on which side the British would have fought, had they been involved? Perhaps it was one of those rare occasions when the Perfidious Albion had no dog in the fight?
When i heard that story in elementary school, i didn't believed it at first.
Could you please do a show about Nino Cochise grandson on Chief Cochise. Love your channel
I have one for you. Actually, I have several. A few years ago I came across something about an American warship being damaged in the Shimonoseki campaign. That stopped me cold. The US getting involved in an entire foreign war during the Civil War! I've looked at this since and found that the US got involved with a lot of wars during the Civil War, mostly Indian wars, including The Dakota Uprising, which happened in my home state. And you just have to do the Cortina Wars.
The Batavian fleet would go on to be defeated by Admiral Duncan's (British)North Sea fleet in 1797 it's self recovering from the Great Mutiny that had crippled the Royal Navy that year , the Battle of Camperdown was notable for a few things the larger than usual British casualties ,a famous example of Colours literally being nailed to a mast and the valour of the Gunners wife aboard HMS Ardent as well as the prominent role played by William Bligh of Bounty fame in the action .
The conflict of loyalties between Dutch Republicans and Royalists would be exploited by the British in 1799 at Vlieter causing a large number of Dutch ships to surrender after the crews mutinied rather than fight for the Republic .
It's interesting politics that it wasn't recorded on both sides.