John, look into the depreciation value on modern first hand diamond engagement rings vs antique rings or sourcing materials from second hand jewelry and having a ring made from scratch.
As someone who use to sell diamonds and engagement rings in college, most people can’t tell the difference. I suggest looking at sizes in increments of .25. For example, if you want 1ct consider .75 to 1. Quality is another big factor, such as dark sports, cracks, stains, etc. The rock can be 1ct but if the quality is shitty, it will look shitty no matter what. Lastly, cut is important too. If you want a sparkly diamond but can’t afford the best quality go with radiant. Maximum sparkle and hides flaws. Asher and emerald cuts require good quality for maximum sparkle or else it will look dirty and dull.
@@PVPVPVPVPV689 You brought in grammar so I’m here to correct every mistake you made while grammar-correcting someone else. 1. While you are correct in basic concept if I squint, a + a word which begins with a vowel = an, I can’t find an example of this where a has not been replaced with an in the original text :) 2. “an”, not “as”. An is what you use when the word after a starts with a vowel e.g. “an orange. As is what you use to introduce a metaphor, a comparison, an alternative for because or something occurring while another thing is also occurring. E.g Param corrected their grammar as they thought they saw a mistake in the original poster’s text. “As” has many uses but it is *not* an article. 3. “Ends in and vowel” should be “in a vowel” - because and is not the correct word here and vowel doesn’t start with a vowel so an is not the correct word either. 4. It should also not be “ends in a vowel”, because the letter the word after a ends with doesn’t matter, only the letter it begins with. I hope this is a sufficient demonstration that before you start correcting others, you should relearn basic English. 😂
7 years of marriage came here looking for this comment. Good on ya. I hope you know the value of the relationship you’ve got, it’s worth more than diamonds.
@@lakzefar449 Hey, after 36 years, a 'decent' diamond ring's worth of money can compound interest itself into a decent house's worth of money. 12% annual return on investment (average for the stock market over the last century) over 36 years turns $5k to $300k.
Guys, unless she's high maintenance, no woman is going to be bummed with less than a carat. Spend the money on the quality- no huge flaws visible by the naked eye. And FYI, my ring was under $400, and is a custom piece from a jewelry gallery... and I get compliments CONSTANTLY from strangers. I absolutely love it, and the diamonds are SMALL. (And our farm is large... put your money in what really matters. )
Context and the spirit of any action matters ⚠️If the spirit behidn getting a ring pop is lousy and nonchalant, then that's a _problem_ . If it something well-meaned and inderstood like an inside joke then not only is there no problem but the person used that ring to create a beautiful memory out of love and consideration to their to-be fiancée❤
If they bring up that she won't know the difference only until she puts it under magnification: "Buddy, if she's putting her ring under magnification, I've got bigger problems."
Umm...no. Diamonds are expensive because it takes skill to cut them in a certain way. Not all diamonds are cut the same. Plus, is about purity too, the clear the diamond is, more expensive it is. So we have purity+cut+the metal used for the ring band(gold/platinum)+the uniqueness of the jewellery +brand. The brand may add up more than a third to the price, for example Cartier, which is one of the most prestigious houses out there. So a diamond rings price has nothing to do with anything emotional, and once you try to resell it, its value drops considerably.
@@tealeafs3824 all you said is the reason diamonds arent worth anything Dumb people when they try to act smart by saying the "cut,clarity, blah blah" is actually the reason of it being important rather than stating the fact Diamonds are nothing, worth nothing, will never be anything unless we make it something
The engagement ring should be symbolic and not expensive. They are quite beautiful rings, even silver ones. It is not the value of the ring that matters, but the feelings. And these sellers should also understand that not everyone has the opportunity to buy expensive rings or not everyone wants to spend a lot of money.
Yup! I totally agree with that and wouldn't even mind getting something inexpensive like a shell (any Stardew Valley fans here?) or anything symbolic like a card or photo/video of the proposal itself. 😊
i agree with saving money but your engagement or wedding ring should not be silver. it's not because i'm stingy, it's just silver is going dark fast, and you need to take this off really often or not wear it at all. if you want a cheap one, go with sterling steel, but not silver. gold or platinum is best for the rings like these though cus those aren't reactive.
Or how about letting each couple determine what they want? What you feel you "should" do will absolutely be different to the next couple and their budget.
Hubby was willing to pay thousands for my ring but I chose a $200 ring. 10 years later we have a beautiful family and we appreciate the lovely moments and time as a family over material things. I wouldn’t change it.
13 years together, 9 years married, a home and a kid… happy as the day we got engaged! My ring isn’t even a diamond- it’s moisanite. Less than $230 for the set. The money doesn’t matter.
I remember going ring shopping with my husband and the guy was showing us beautiful rings. He puts 2 rings next to each other and asked if we see the difference. We said no. He said this is a full 1 carat and this one is under a carat. Then told us if want to save money just buy under a carat.
Never bought my wife an engagement ring, both of us consider them useless rocks that are only valuable to the person selling it. Bought a us a car instead and started saving for a house. 30 years later still married , 1 mill house and neither one of us regret skipping the useless rock.
@@user-rc1ph3ft2s Plans are in the works for that but we are not going to use diamonds. I bought her a black opel when I was in Australia decades ago and will get a custom made ring made out of platinum (and palladium) that I have acquired over the years. We already have the jewelry maker lined up.
As someone who doesn't even have a carrat I can tell you I didn't care. I was more for the design of my ring than the individual stone. I was looking for "different" and I got it. Till this day I haven't found another person with my ring, similar as companies in later years used the design to inspire their next line, but never the same. It means more that not only is my ring unique, but we got it on super sale 🎉😂
Yep, I only went with a 1/4 carat because it's a really neat band with smaller stones and this way it doesn't overwhelm my small hands. It's been years and I still love it just as much as the day I got it.
A wedding is literally a once in a lifetime event, but while it makes sense to go all out it’s more important to save for the long haul of the marriage itself, which lasts a lifetime rather than one day, so don’t bankrupt yourself on your wedding
Oh, um, I'd also recommend moving to Texas or Alaska depending on your weather preferences. No one wants a intrusive government trying to stop them from bearing their engagement troth!
Just so everyone knows, 0.95 is still confused a carat. In American Jewelry stores, 0.95-1.11 is considered a carat. The only way to know the exact carat is if it has a certification card and not all diamonds have cert cards. Also, unless you change the quality of diamond (color and clarity especially) as well, it's highly unlikely you'll save 30% going from 1.00 to 0.95 or even 0.90.
After 12 years of marriage I honestly can’t remember I I could afford a 1 carat or .5 carat diamond for my fiancé…. But what can remember is that I actually couldn’t afford either, the jewelry store let me put the ring on an account in my name and if there was can convince fee it was minimal and totally worth it . I walked out with a ring having only paid for 20-25% of it’s marked price. I of course returned regularly to make payments . Now I still remember how nice the sales people were and how much they were willing to work with me. I was even more grateful years later when I came to understand that this was not common practice in the jewelry industry. Full price or nothing, no installment plans . Shout out to mom and pop businesses .
"can the human eye distinguish the difference between a 1 carat diamond stone and a 1 carat moissanite stone with a down payment for a house next to it? Yes. Yes it can. That is why I am choosing moissanite."
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist its usually a gold alloy because gold is a soft metal. A 14k gold ring is like 60% gold and in a gold ring there's probably only 5 grams of actual gold in there, if that.
If its only the naked eye, go for lab grown diamonds... Much more affordable since they are "artificial" but they are usually indistinguishable even by experts
For some reason I have never met a jewelry salesman like this. When I choose what I want the sales person tells me the price. They then tell me of any sales. If I can afford I buy. If I cant afford, I tell them Im looking for something less pricey and they help me find it.
as a woman: idgaf about diamonds or other rocks. what's more important is using your money for useful things like a down payment on a house for instance
If you think that your partner is wrong for knowing what they want when it comes to the most important piece of jewelry they will likely ever have you are a cheap asshole I would get my future husband the ring he wants and I want the same from him The idea that a woman should be happy with whatever the man gets her no matter how cheap, shitty, or ugly it is needs to end because its stupid and old🙄 You should want to give your wife the ring she loves and value her enough to get past your selfishness and bitching
Been a jeweler since fall ‘04, and this makes me smile. And it’s not just the full carat milestone that comes with a price hike. Just one that is commonly encountered.
I’m a diamontologist and 0.95 is legally and technically considered 1ct. There is absolutely not a 20-30% discount for buying a diamond of the same quality that is .05-.1 smaller than an exact 1ct. It’s irregular to even have a diamond cut and polished to exactly 1.00ct.
XD I just commented something similar. Like idk where he's getting his numbers but if your 0.95 carat is 30% less expensive than a 1 carat of the same quality it's probably at least natural vs lab.
Actual GIA educated gemologist of 13 years here… a diamond weighing .995 can be sold as a carat, but a .95 is NOT a one carat diamond. When all other variables are constant, the discount on a .95-.99 will be minimal. After carat weight, most expensive factor in a diamond is clarity. IMO this is where you can drop a grade to save money IF you are shopping for a brilliant cut stone (round, oval, pear, radiant, etc) But even that is not so simple. Most common diamond order is a 1 carat (H color and SI1 clarity) so the price on that will be a little less flexible than the same diamond but (I color, VS2 clarity) Also, everyone wants a XXX cut grade, but a diamond with a VG polish grade will be virtually the same to your eye unless you grade diamonds for a living.
To my future fiancée, a ring with or without an expensive diamond is perfect. I’d honestly take a ring pop if it means something 😌 Edit: posted this before reading that comment abt the ring pop with a lot of likes, and its meant to be 💀💀
To every good jewelry store I went we didn't speak much of the size and all the guy showed me jewelry according to the budget I set myself, and even a lot of cheaper options. In the end they are salesmen and don't want to lose a sale just because they are pressuring you to buy something you can't afford.
I agree fully. For multiple grand you could help them remodel their hobby space (ie, top of the line kitchen appliances, car parts, craft room, wood working tools) or get a ring that statistically speaking has a much higher chances if being flushed down the toilet than a drill or oven
@@puppyhurricaneI've got a titanium and white sapphire ring. No one knows its not a diamond and white gold. Cost huby $780 for the set . Would have cost $2000 with diamonds
I’m obviously not on the receiving end of a ring but I’d get a lab sapphire or ruby. Firstly, I think colored stones look cooler and I could get them high quality and larger (or more) than I would get with natural stones. My mom has a large sapphire (natural I think) and two smaller diamonds in hers. I love it so much compared to a similar cost ring with just a natural diamond
I like your mindset. Women sometimes need to think outside of the box, than just demanding the most expensive ring there is.. Besides, colorful stones are so much prettier than just a bland transparent diamond, which you can barely see.
@@fujitsu-no It definitely still is expensive… Probably a lot nicer looking than the same price with only diamonds. She actually lost her original one and my dad got an even more expensive one as a replacement
Never really bought an engagement ring. We used that money to fund our first class plane tickets and 5 star hotels to Greece, France, and Spain instead.
Man, videos like this make me happy that my girlfriend finds the whole idea of shelling out on these things unnecessary. We got basic gemstone rings as we prefer a pop of color, and it works just fine. When we die nobody’s gonna care about who has a 16 carat ring or not
My fiancé bought me a ring and I love it, but I love him more. I’d be happy with no ring too. If someone is demanding a diamond ring, they are not the one.
I hate diamonds. Overrated as hell. My engagement ring is alexandrite and moissinite and was under a grand. I love it and i really don't care if anyone else doesn't. My fiancé was just happy that i was happy with it. He was very surprised i didn't want a diamond ring. How anyone can honestly spend so much money on something so small and honestly not that important is beyond me. It's about the bond and commitment, not the ring, dress, wedding, or cake.
We went pawn shopping for my ring and I choose opals in 10 ct gold. Oval white opal in the middle surrounded by a halo of small round ones. Looks absolutely beautiful on my skin tone and didn’t cost my husband an arm and a leg. He wants to get me a “better” one, but that can wait 5-10 years. I love this one
Id much prefer a vintage ring than a brand new one. I just think vintage hewelry has so much more personality. I dont really even want diamonds. To me, gemstones with vibrant color are much more appealing than a clear diamond. As a May baby, I'd be ecstatic with a pretty green emerald ❤
As a goldsmith this is very true. unless you are trained in the field people will not know the difference. Another tip to cut down cost is the clarity grades. You cannot see the difference between a vsi and a vsii with the naked eye. Only a on a microscope would you see the inclusions. You could also go for a moissanite.
Also, get a lab-grown diamond if you are going to get one. Not only will it be higher quality for whatever price point you purchase at, it's guaranteed to not be a blood diamond. There's probably a lab that grows them in your area. You can get exactly the diamond you want and then get a setting custom-made to your girl's choosing for less money than buying a mined diamond off the shelf.
My boyfriend wants to propose with a ring pop, and he said if he did, it could start a tradition of him giving me a ring pop every year on our anniversary
Just be wary of a sub-1 carat weight Diamond with a ‘1 carat spread’ which means it’s as wide as a 1 carat would be if it was cut perfectly. The wider shape means it’s not as deep and the light won’t reflect properly inside the stone = less fire or brilliance
don't engage; money saved. married 22 years - it's a piece a paper with a lot potential legal issues. you can be with someone for the long haul and not 'make it official' all the same.
Cubiczirconia are man made diamonds that are a fraction of the price and almost impossible to distinguish from real diamonds and they’re less likely to have inclusions
Yeah, and it's literally just a specific crystallised carbon lattice. I'd actually rather be proposed to with a sanded down and polished steel spacer, than a $20k diamond ring.
I custom-designed my wife's ring with our jeweler, used a morganite as the center stone. The total budget for the ring was under $1k. She loves it, it's an eye turner for so many reasons, one of which is finding a bezel set ring that is attractive and unique. It is one of the most beautiful and unique rings I've seen, and yes, I am biased.
My husband did this. I have three princess cut stones. And he got them in .3, .4, .3. so they add up to 1 ct but since he avoided the .5 marker he paid a lot less.
I proposed with a 1.1 carat...sapphire. My wife made it very clear that she wanted a sapphire ring, and that she didn't want something super pricey. I custom built one through James Allen and still spent a decent bit on a one-of-a-kind ring that had the stone she wanted, then put the rest of the money into paying off some of the vehicle debt like she asked.
Better advice, if your partner doesn't NEED a diamond wedding ring, don't buy one. There's no law saying it has to be diamond, it's just a tradition that a diamond company started anyway
Honestly, fake gems is how I went. My husband spent $20 on my engagement ring, and I was thrilled with it! It was still beautiful. It's not the money that matters to me, it's the man.
Having worked in jewelery there are very few hands on which a full carat doesn’t look gaudy. Size is actually the last consideration Cut - both the shape and the quality of the cut, colour - the lower down the murkier it is and clarity - amount of inclusions and level of visibility, can all mean more to the value of a diamond than carat. A .5 DVVS in a quality cut is going to be more expensive than a 1ct LSI.
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John, look into the depreciation value on modern first hand diamond engagement rings vs antique rings or sourcing materials from second hand jewelry and having a ring made from scratch.
Buy wholesale.
Man I'm just getting on my knees with a ringpop
My gf wants me to lol
⬆️*THE PERSON ABOVE ME IS A SCAM* ⬆️
Legit, my official wedding rings were ring pops. It was a great laugh.
Bro, my dad ACTUALLY did that. It was cherry.
@@Whatsupbruther Lmao your dad sounds legendary
“I’ve been doing this for as long I’ve been doing this” 😂
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As someone who use to sell diamonds and engagement rings in college, most people can’t tell the difference. I suggest looking at sizes in increments of .25. For example, if you want 1ct consider .75 to 1. Quality is another big factor, such as dark sports, cracks, stains, etc. The rock can be 1ct but if the quality is shitty, it will look shitty no matter what. Lastly, cut is important too. If you want a sparkly diamond but can’t afford the best quality go with radiant. Maximum sparkle and hides flaws. Asher and emerald cuts require good quality for maximum sparkle or else it will look dirty and dull.
Wow, personally i will never get married or buy jewelry, but this is good to know if I ever want to sell worthless rocks.
If the word after a ends in and vowel then you use as😂
@@PVPVPVPVPV689 are you giving grammar an spelling corrections? 😂
@@PVPVPVPVPV689 atleast he dont look like a discord mor
@@PVPVPVPVPV689 You brought in grammar so I’m here to correct every mistake you made while grammar-correcting someone else.
1. While you are correct in basic concept if I squint, a + a word which begins with a vowel = an, I can’t find an example of this where a has not been replaced with an in the original text :)
2. “an”, not “as”. An is what you use when the word after a starts with a vowel e.g. “an orange. As is what you use to introduce a metaphor, a comparison, an alternative for because or something occurring while another thing is also occurring. E.g Param corrected their grammar as they thought they saw a mistake in the original poster’s text. “As” has many uses but it is *not* an article.
3. “Ends in and vowel” should be “in a vowel” - because and is not the correct word here and vowel doesn’t start with a vowel so an is not the correct word either.
4. It should also not be “ends in a vowel”, because the letter the word after a ends with doesn’t matter, only the letter it begins with.
I hope this is a sufficient demonstration that before you start correcting others, you should relearn basic English. 😂
36 yrs of marriage going strong, 2 well-established kids, 2 houses, 2 cars, no diamonds and no regrets.
2 houses? one for you and one for your wife?😂
7 years of marriage came here looking for this comment. Good on ya. I hope you know the value of the relationship you’ve got, it’s worth more than diamonds.
Marriage license in tact though. Ring or not. I know they ain’t invested 36 years without proof of it. 😇
@@lakzefar449 Hey, after 36 years, a 'decent' diamond ring's worth of money can compound interest itself into a decent house's worth of money.
12% annual return on investment (average for the stock market over the last century) over 36 years turns $5k to $300k.
A little over a decade here. no diamond, no worries.
Guys, unless she's high maintenance, no woman is going to be bummed with less than a carat. Spend the money on the quality- no huge flaws visible by the naked eye. And FYI, my ring was under $400, and is a custom piece from a jewelry gallery... and I get compliments CONSTANTLY from strangers. I absolutely love it, and the diamonds are SMALL. (And our farm is large... put your money in what really matters. )
Same. I’m wearing a gold ring with no gemstone and the money is used for literally everything else that matters😂
That’s exactly what my husband did! My ring is .9 of a carat but the highest quality in every other aspect
Context and the spirit of any action matters ⚠️If the spirit behidn getting a ring pop is lousy and nonchalant, then that's a _problem_ . If it something well-meaned and inderstood like an inside joke then not only is there no problem but the person used that ring to create a beautiful memory out of love and consideration to their to-be fiancée❤
Highly agree
I'd rather have land than minerals on my fingers.
If they bring up that she won't know the difference only until she puts it under magnification: "Buddy, if she's putting her ring under magnification, I've got bigger problems."
Diamonds are actually not expensive or rare at all, they just price them up because of the emotional value we put on the engagement ring.
Umm...no. Diamonds are expensive because it takes skill to cut them in a certain way. Not all diamonds are cut the same. Plus, is about purity too, the clear the diamond is, more expensive it is.
So we have purity+cut+the metal used for the ring band(gold/platinum)+the uniqueness of the jewellery +brand. The brand may add up more than a third to the price, for example Cartier, which is one of the most prestigious houses out there.
So a diamond rings price has nothing to do with anything emotional, and once you try to resell it, its value drops considerably.
@@tealeafs3824bro was paid by De Beers to say that 💀
@@tealeafs3824 hmmmm, think I’ll get lab grown. thanks De Beers 😅
@@tealeafs3824 all you said is the reason diamonds arent worth anything
Dumb people when they try to act smart by saying the "cut,clarity, blah blah" is actually the reason of it being important rather than stating the fact
Diamonds are nothing, worth nothing, will never be anything unless we make it something
@@Commielover69 your ignorance is appalling.
The engagement ring should be symbolic and not expensive. They are quite beautiful rings, even silver ones. It is not the value of the ring that matters, but the feelings. And these sellers should also understand that not everyone has the opportunity to buy expensive rings or not everyone wants to spend a lot of money.
Yes also the mony is probably better spend on saving up for things the couple might need.
Yup! I totally agree with that and wouldn't even mind getting something inexpensive like a shell (any Stardew Valley fans here?) or anything symbolic like a card or photo/video of the proposal itself. 😊
i agree with saving money but your engagement or wedding ring should not be silver. it's not because i'm stingy, it's just silver is going dark fast, and you need to take this off really often or not wear it at all. if you want a cheap one, go with sterling steel, but not silver. gold or platinum is best for the rings like these though cus those aren't reactive.
Or how about letting each couple determine what they want? What you feel you "should" do will absolutely be different to the next couple and their budget.
Lab diamonds are also a great option
Lab diamonds is amazing, since they are basically real.
@@Lilitha11 they *are* real
@@Lilitha11 “basically real”
Lab diamonds are absolutely fantastic. Just as high quality as natural diamonds, without the ridiculous markup in price.
Yes, but they're not that cheap.
Hubby was willing to pay thousands for my ring but I chose a $200 ring. 10 years later we have a beautiful family and we appreciate the lovely moments and time as a family over material things. I wouldn’t change it.
Yeah thats expensive too...16000
This guy turned being a cheapskate into a career, mad respect.
He's Asian, what do you expect?
@@phillpauley6672 as an Asian I approve of this racism
@@HassleHoffer372 same
How about we use the word "frugal"? And as another Asian, I don't approve of the word "cheapskate" thank you
@@HassleHoffer372 u
13 years together, 9 years married, a home and a kid… happy as the day we got engaged! My ring isn’t even a diamond- it’s moisanite. Less than $230 for the set. The money doesn’t matter.
I remember going ring shopping with my husband and the guy was showing us beautiful rings. He puts 2 rings next to each other and asked if we see the difference. We said no. He said this is a full 1 carat and this one is under a carat. Then told us if want to save money just buy under a carat.
Honesty dude. More rare than a diamond since diamonds aren’t rare.
“Sir, I’ve been doing this as long as I’ve been doing this.”
Never bought my wife an engagement ring, both of us consider them useless rocks that are only valuable to the person selling it. Bought a us a car instead and started saving for a house. 30 years later still married , 1 mill house and neither one of us regret skipping the useless rock.
Amazing and appreciatable!
Buy her one now
For an anniversary
@@user-rc1ph3ft2s not everyone wants that. Personally I do too but they clearly don't lol
@@user-rc1ph3ft2s Plans are in the works for that but we are not going to use diamonds. I bought her a black opel when I was in Australia decades ago and will get a custom made ring made out of platinum (and palladium) that I have acquired over the years. We already have the jewelry maker lined up.
Never forget how it was a jewelry company who started an ad campaign to convince American men that you NEED to buy your fiancé a diamond ring
As someone who doesn't even have a carrat I can tell you I didn't care. I was more for the design of my ring than the individual stone. I was looking for "different" and I got it. Till this day I haven't found another person with my ring, similar as companies in later years used the design to inspire their next line, but never the same. It means more that not only is my ring unique, but we got it on super sale 🎉😂
Yep, I only went with a 1/4 carat because it's a really neat band with smaller stones and this way it doesn't overwhelm my small hands. It's been years and I still love it just as much as the day I got it.
A wedding is literally a once in a lifetime event, but while it makes sense to go all out it’s more important to save for the long haul of the marriage itself, which lasts a lifetime rather than one day, so don’t bankrupt yourself on your wedding
Good point but they are discussing engagement rings, not weddings
Can you tell me how I can save money on an engagement sword? Rings are not my type!
I LIKE YOUR STYLE
I’d take a sword over a ring any day.
Oh, um, I'd also recommend moving to Texas or Alaska depending on your weather preferences. No one wants a intrusive government trying to stop them from bearing their engagement troth!
What an iconic way to celebrate your relationship milestone 😂❤️
2 years married and I'm just now realizing I should have asked for a sword...
Just so everyone knows, 0.95 is still confused a carat. In American Jewelry stores, 0.95-1.11 is considered a carat. The only way to know the exact carat is if it has a certification card and not all diamonds have cert cards. Also, unless you change the quality of diamond (color and clarity especially) as well, it's highly unlikely you'll save 30% going from 1.00 to 0.95 or even 0.90.
My engagement ring is like .77 or something like that and everyone thinks it’s a full carat. 🤷♀️ It’s still beautiful and I still love it!
After 12 years of marriage I honestly can’t remember I I could afford a 1 carat or .5 carat diamond for my fiancé…. But what can remember is that I actually couldn’t afford either, the jewelry store let me put the ring on an account in my name and if there was can convince fee it was minimal and totally worth it . I walked out with a ring having only paid for 20-25% of it’s marked price. I of course returned regularly to make payments . Now I still remember how nice the sales people were and how much they were willing to work with me. I was even more grateful years later when I came to understand that this was not common practice in the jewelry industry. Full price or nothing, no installment plans . Shout out to mom and pop businesses .
"can the human eye distinguish the difference between a 1 carat diamond stone and a 1 carat moissanite stone with a down payment for a house next to it? Yes. Yes it can. That is why I am choosing moissanite."
Its possible to get a gold diamond ring for 1000 dollars
@@faizaqadirBmoissanite is 200 to 300 dollars
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I doubt it… gold is really really high right now, 2000-2100 an ounce.
Or at least I’d be curious how much gold is in the rings?
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist its usually a gold alloy because gold is a soft metal. A 14k gold ring is like 60% gold and in a gold ring there's probably only 5 grams of actual gold in there, if that.
Mine is Moissanite and I love it! And I don’t have to worry about it being a blood diamond.
The best option IMO is moissanite, its only little bit less harder, but you can't tell the diffirence, its way cheaper and even shinier
I got a white sapphire . Cheaper and almost just as hard as diamond and no one knows it isnt a diamond especially when cleaned
@@ah5721 how much carats?
If its only the naked eye, go for lab grown diamonds... Much more affordable since they are "artificial" but they are usually indistinguishable even by experts
If it's that indistinquishable why not say they're all real for more profit. Experts won't be able to call them out.
@@CyranofromBergeracBecause you could trace where they sourced that diamond and eventually you’d find that it came from a lab.
For some reason I have never met a jewelry salesman like this. When I choose what I want the sales person tells me the price. They then tell me of any sales. If I can afford I buy. If I cant afford, I tell them Im looking for something less pricey and they help me find it.
My dad got my mom a puppy when they got engaged. They have been married for 27 years.
In norse traditional households the wife got a cat to keep the mice away from the crops!
@@ah5721 i would say i do so fast and i dont even really believe in a marriage kind of deal ;-;
If you need a multi-thousand dollar ring to feel secure and like your marriage means something, then you’re not ready for marriage.
The zipper on his jacket is killing me
as a woman: idgaf about diamonds or other rocks. what's more important is using your money for useful things like a down payment on a house for instance
This gave me the nostalgia of a 90s jewelry channel
If your wife insists on spending a lot on an engagement ring, consider spending that money on a dating site subscription instead.
If your wife has opinions on the engagement ring you're buying, maybe double check your state's laws regarding bigamy?
@@user-bz3kd2mt3u OK, you are correct. If your FUTURE wife wants a fancy ring.
@@DJ_Force ^_^
If you think that your partner is wrong for knowing what they want when it comes to the most important piece of jewelry they will likely ever have you are a cheap asshole
I would get my future husband the ring he wants and I want the same from him
The idea that a woman should be happy with whatever the man gets her no matter how cheap, shitty, or ugly it is needs to end because its stupid and old🙄 You should want to give your wife the ring she loves and value her enough to get past your selfishness and bitching
Been a jeweler since fall ‘04, and this makes me smile. And it’s not just the full carat milestone that comes with a price hike. Just one that is commonly encountered.
Diamonds aren’t always exactly 1 ct.
I’m a diamontologist and 0.95 is legally and technically considered 1ct. There is absolutely not a 20-30% discount for buying a diamond of the same quality that is .05-.1 smaller than an exact 1ct. It’s irregular to even have a diamond cut and polished to exactly 1.00ct.
XD I just commented something similar. Like idk where he's getting his numbers but if your 0.95 carat is 30% less expensive than a 1 carat of the same quality it's probably at least natural vs lab.
Actual GIA educated gemologist of 13 years here… a diamond weighing .995 can be sold as a carat, but a .95 is NOT a one carat diamond.
When all other variables are constant, the discount on a .95-.99 will be minimal.
After carat weight, most expensive factor in a diamond is clarity. IMO this is where you can drop a grade to save money IF you are shopping for a brilliant cut stone (round, oval, pear, radiant, etc) But even that is not so simple. Most common diamond order is a 1 carat (H color and SI1 clarity) so the price on that will be a little less flexible than the same diamond but (I color, VS2 clarity) Also, everyone wants a XXX cut grade, but a diamond with a VG polish grade will be virtually the same to your eye unless you grade diamonds for a living.
“Can I get a 23.831 carat diamond?” “We don’t have less than 24 carat” “for free?” “No of course not for free” *pulls out for free coupon* “for free”
"Can the naked human eye distinguish"......
My exact thoughts on 4k Ultra.
Someone needs to get their eyes checked then...
This is good advice. Find an amazing diamond with a great surface proportion.
To my future fiancée, a ring with or without an expensive diamond is perfect. I’d honestly take a ring pop if it means something 😌
Edit: posted this before reading that comment abt the ring pop with a lot of likes, and its meant to be 💀💀
“Do I care about what other naked human eyes see as long as I’m happy?”
Is the real question
To every good jewelry store I went we didn't speak much of the size and all the guy showed me jewelry according to the budget I set myself, and even a lot of cheaper options. In the end they are salesmen and don't want to lose a sale just because they are pressuring you to buy something you can't afford.
Yeah they don’t own the shop, they have no reason to care
@@whitezombie10the reason most care is because they are on commission
“ive been doing this for as long as i’ve been doing this” i’m gonna have to use this 😂😂
Just get her a lab-grown diamond and put the money towards a home... If she doesn't except it, she's not worth it.
I agree fully. For multiple grand you could help them remodel their hobby space (ie, top of the line kitchen appliances, car parts, craft room, wood working tools) or get a ring that statistically speaking has a much higher chances if being flushed down the toilet than a drill or oven
Very useful! Your work doesn't go unappreciated!
The funny thing is lab grown last i looked its about as exspensive 😢
@@puppyhurricaneI've got a titanium and white sapphire ring. No one knows its not a diamond and white gold. Cost huby $780 for the set . Would have cost $2000 with diamonds
Yeah, because all retail workers are required to tell the truth.
I’m obviously not on the receiving end of a ring but I’d get a lab sapphire or ruby. Firstly, I think colored stones look cooler and I could get them high quality and larger (or more) than I would get with natural stones.
My mom has a large sapphire (natural I think) and two smaller diamonds in hers. I love it so much compared to a similar cost ring with just a natural diamond
I like your mindset. Women sometimes need to think outside of the box, than just demanding the most expensive ring there is.. Besides, colorful stones are so much prettier than just a bland transparent diamond, which you can barely see.
The sapphire is probably worth more than the diamonds 😅
Sapphire, ruby, emarlds, opals. Worth more than diamonds.
@@dwarlord3716 I bet it is! It’s beautiful!!
@@fujitsu-no It definitely still is expensive… Probably a lot nicer looking than the same price with only diamonds. She actually lost her original one and my dad got an even more expensive one as a replacement
Never really bought an engagement ring. We used that money to fund our first class plane tickets and 5 star hotels to Greece, France, and Spain instead.
Rule number 1: Never say the E word! It immediately adds 2 zeros to your price tag.
My engagement ring was a custom job and cost me less than $400.
Man, videos like this make me happy that my girlfriend finds the whole idea of shelling out on these things unnecessary. We got basic gemstone rings as we prefer a pop of color, and it works just fine. When we die nobody’s gonna care about who has a 16 carat ring or not
The slight difference in size can be felt at resale value too, not all influencers are always right
If you’re worried about resale value for a wedding ring, you’re doing something wrong
@@jameslovdokken😂😂😂😂
He really said “I’ve been doing this as long as I’ve been doing this” 😂
Engagement money saving tip #1: Stay single.
It's not only engagement rings...
I used this "almost 1ct" 40 years ago. The ring is now my daughter's 😊
Omg we looked at engagement rings recently and 1 karat is HUGE. I would hurt myself with something that big. Even .5 karat was pushing it for me 😅
The best saving is to not be sucked into the engagement/wedding ring scam. Prices are jacked up for materials that are essentially worthless.
Unless in a pinch and you need $$$$
biggest engagement ring saving tipp: don't buy one
@lucy not planing to do so, but even if I hopefully won't have picked a partner who would care.
@lucy outside of the usa ... pretty easy 🤗
My fiancé bought me a ring and I love it, but I love him more. I’d be happy with no ring too. If someone is demanding a diamond ring, they are not the one.
@lucyMost women I've dated said they'd prefer not to have an engagement ring, only a wedding ring. I tend to go after low maintenance women though.
“ I have been doing this as long as I have been doing this” 😂
I hate diamonds. Overrated as hell. My engagement ring is alexandrite and moissinite and was under a grand. I love it and i really don't care if anyone else doesn't. My fiancé was just happy that i was happy with it. He was very surprised i didn't want a diamond ring. How anyone can honestly spend so much money on something so small and honestly not that important is beyond me. It's about the bond and commitment, not the ring, dress, wedding, or cake.
Everyone gangster until he hits you with the: Sorry we dint have that
Excited to see the bargain hunting for a wedding cake. "So you have a scratch and dent cake by chance?"
Naw you just say I need a cake to feed x amount of people for a party. Dont say the word wedding . They upcharge for wedding
Money saving tip buy moissenite, they are only .5 lower on the scale used to measure hardness and rate higher than diamonds for reflectivity.
You know what the best money saving tip is? Avoid getting married. 😃
Well actually, you save a lot of money by getting married due to tax advantages if you’re not making over $600k in total
Paying for whatever junk a women wants is always going to be more expensive than the tiny tax benefits you get.
I have been doing this as long as I have been doing this.....Got me rolling😅
We went pawn shopping for my ring and I choose opals in 10 ct gold. Oval white opal in the middle surrounded by a halo of small round ones. Looks absolutely beautiful on my skin tone and didn’t cost my husband an arm and a leg. He wants to get me a “better” one, but that can wait 5-10 years. I love this one
Honestly, I don't want the guy who marries me to give me some expensive ring. I could care less about a ring. You can't buy love.
Id much prefer a vintage ring than a brand new one. I just think vintage hewelry has so much more personality. I dont really even want diamonds. To me, gemstones with vibrant color are much more appealing than a clear diamond. As a May baby, I'd be ecstatic with a pretty green emerald ❤
I love how he said round up like it's just a penny more, lol
Best tip I have for saving money on an engagement and wedding ring is, you don't actually need one.
If hear "for sure, for sure, but..." My mind is going to melt
hold up i thought diamonds on rings were supposed to be pure af-
As a goldsmith this is very true. unless you are trained in the field people will not know the difference. Another tip to cut down cost is the clarity grades. You cannot see the difference between a vsi and a vsii with the naked eye. Only a on a microscope would you see the inclusions. You could also go for a moissanite.
I actually learned this from the recent season of Indian matchmaking 💀💀💀
Also, get a lab-grown diamond if you are going to get one. Not only will it be higher quality for whatever price point you purchase at, it's guaranteed to not be a blood diamond.
There's probably a lab that grows them in your area. You can get exactly the diamond you want and then get a setting custom-made to your girl's choosing for less money than buying a mined diamond off the shelf.
I learnt this from Raunaq Rajani.. he mentioned it in one of his shows
"Freddy Frugal, professional cheapskate" - Cameron Geller
Ur wife will when she find out u skimpin on love 😂😂😂
My boyfriend wants to propose with a ring pop, and he said if he did, it could start a tradition of him giving me a ring pop every year on our anniversary
Just be wary of a sub-1 carat weight Diamond with a ‘1 carat spread’ which means it’s as wide as a 1 carat would be if it was cut perfectly. The wider shape means it’s not as deep and the light won’t reflect properly inside the stone = less fire or brilliance
don't engage; money saved.
married 22 years - it's a piece a paper with a lot potential legal issues.
you can be with someone for the long haul and not 'make it official' all the same.
"hello there im here to purchase an elden ring please, but i've got a limited budget. instead of $60 i would like it for $0
Cubiczirconia are man made diamonds that are a fraction of the price and almost impossible to distinguish from real diamonds and they’re less likely to have inclusions
If she needs an expensive ring, we can just stay friends
When she ask u better tell her the truth😂😂😂😂she’s not stupid😂😂😂😂
Also if she wants a gold ring you can go down a little on the color scale. Silver it will be more noticeable
Sapphires are cool too, white sapphires look just like diamonds and are much cheaper
Ive got a white saphire. No knows the difference I get complements on it all the time.
Just remember, America, diamonds are SUPER common, and you only pay so much for them because De Beers told you so.
Yeah, and it's literally just a specific crystallised carbon lattice.
I'd actually rather be proposed to with a sanded down and polished steel spacer, than a $20k diamond ring.
Ratio also makes a huge difference. I love my 2 carat oval brilliant ❤
I custom-designed my wife's ring with our jeweler, used a morganite as the center stone. The total budget for the ring was under $1k. She loves it, it's an eye turner for so many reasons, one of which is finding a bezel set ring that is attractive and unique. It is one of the most beautiful and unique rings I've seen, and yes, I am biased.
“Please, I’ve been doing this as long as I’ve been doing this.”
Avoid engagement rings.
Buy your SO an engagement sword!
My husband did this. I have three princess cut stones. And he got them in .3, .4, .3. so they add up to 1 ct but since he avoided the .5 marker he paid a lot less.
I noticed that america, one of highest divorce rates, has the highest minimums for an engagement rings lmao
White Sapphire for the win! Keep it clean and you'll never know the difference!
Truth! No one knows mine isnt a diamond!
I proposed with a 1.1 carat...sapphire.
My wife made it very clear that she wanted a sapphire ring, and that she didn't want something super pricey. I custom built one through James Allen and still spent a decent bit on a one-of-a-kind ring that had the stone she wanted, then put the rest of the money into paying off some of the vehicle debt like she asked.
Better advice, if your partner doesn't NEED a diamond wedding ring, don't buy one. There's no law saying it has to be diamond, it's just a tradition that a diamond company started anyway
Remember guys every kiss begins with mmmKay. 😂😂😂😂
the ring seller is just doing their job
Honestly, fake gems is how I went. My husband spent $20 on my engagement ring, and I was thrilled with it! It was still beautiful. It's not the money that matters to me, it's the man.
Having worked in jewelery there are very few hands on which a full carat doesn’t look gaudy. Size is actually the last consideration
Cut - both the shape and the quality of the cut, colour - the lower down the murkier it is and clarity - amount of inclusions and level of visibility, can all mean more to the value of a diamond than carat.
A .5 DVVS in a quality cut is going to be more expensive than a 1ct LSI.
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