Pat, I am in Geneva Co. AL and I might finish digging today if the plows holds together. Had a bearing squealing at me all day yesterday. Maybe twenty acres left. Seventy one years old and this is the latest that I have ever run peanuts.
Thanks Pat for another wonderful video! Hope everything works out for the best with the John Deere! Also you might want to try out a baklava head covering while blowing out the equipment. It keeps the dirt and dust off your face and prevents inhalation of most of the particles. I use them when I cut my lawn.
Hoping the Deere will not be catastrophic for your family. Running any plow in that clay puts extra stress on everything that plows the ground, almost like red cement after a harvest packs it down. Over here in the Dothan area there are quite a few fields with the peanuts still in the ground, so everyone is running late. Going full blast year round like you do, it might be a good opportunity to get that articulating tractor you want when its time to replace one of your current ones to handle that clay. Great video as always, thanks.
8530 down in 2009 we had 2 4 row Amadas pickers we planted 2000 acres of peanuts. The latest I have ever picked peanuts was Thanksgiving day. They got a heavy frost on them and we lost a lot of them.
Sorry about the transmission problem but they all break down, just cost more on some of those brands! Really appreciate your intel on the fertilizer situation, yes a lot of people don’t think about the value of decaying plants but it does make sense to me. Best of luck! Tennessee
Sorry to hear about the transmission problems. Hopefully it is on the low end of the repair cost. Anxious to see the pecan harvest. My son and I have a small Pecan orchard and custom harvest a couple of others as well. Due to the vagaries of weather we are getting a very late start on harvest and with the depressed prices there is little to no profit potential this year.
@@miketaylor5986 I have a sheller. I sell all of mine & then some direct to end consumers shelled and bagged. Market fluctuations don’t affect me, as end product prices haven’t come down. It’s the middle man corporations squeezing the producers that don’t process and sell their own crop. Been happening in the peanut industry for decades. The biggest players in peanuts expanded into the pecan industry when prices skyrocketed 10-12 years ago. They are now doing to pecan farmers what they did to peanut farmers
I am in east central Georgia, Jenkins County. We're halfway between Augusta and Savannah. I can tell you about the pecan harvest here. There won't be one! And very minimal harvest for a few years to come. Hurricane Helene took care of that for us.
@ hurricane Michael in 2018 here. Wiped entire orchards out and devastated ones that did make it through. My trees were young and flexible enough that they came through un harmed
A warning to any and all operators of the new peanut pickers and cotton pickers concerning low hanging wires in your fields. I was picking today with a new Amadas six row and was in a small 15 acre field. On my last dump the buggy just happened to be in the middle of the field. My basket was all the way down but the "spout" wasn't retracted yet and caught the low wire that happened to be a cable/internet line and not the main electric service line. The tractor 8400 Deere and picker are so heavy and massive I didn't even feel the wire tug on me. It broke the pole at the edge of the highway pulling the service line away from a neighbors house across the road and also a barn service as well. The whole mess of wires fell across the top of the picker trapping me inside. Called the boss who called 911 as my phone was about dead. Had to wait 30 minutes for EMC our co op to arrive and get me out. I didn't realize it at the time but I was going into shock and a first responder saw me pacing about and called an ambulance. I refused medical but it took a couple hours for me to get over it. Purpose of this post is this equipment keeps getting bigger and taller and wires that were placed in these fields many years ago are not high enough for the new stuff to clear. ALWAYS BE AWARE OF ANY WIRES THAT CROSS YOUR FIELDS!!!!!
We're hoin through the same thing right now with a 8370r with the ivt transmission. Nice transmission and it it's great for a lot of different applications. But i don't think its as durable as the power shift transmission.
Your right about the nitrogen. I've tried roller crimping peas before corn and the corn didn't make ears. Did a great job off weed control because the weeds were starved too!
Damn man I hate to here that about the transmission in the 8R. I hope it doesn't hurt to bad. Pray on it God always here's are prayers. Good luck and God bless.
I reckon perfect world would be an older 4WD to flog for the heavy work and a small 8000 just to plant/dig/pull the armadas. Of course the world aint perfect! Sorry to hear about the 8530, hope its not too major.
I've always said it cost you more to replace the fertilizer than the bailing is worth but so many farmers do it in my area thinking they are getting ahead by saleing off the bales.
Hattaway and Ragan probably the only one I see grow wheat for cover crop these day.Hattaway usually throw his cattle on it and Ragan harvest not that much wheat planting no more.
If you’re going to do that, you can make a crop of oats or rye much cheaper and sell seed. Can’t seem to get enough cold weather to make a good wheat crop anymore either and no one wants to pay for milling wheat, if you can find a buyer they all want to give feed price. I’d much rather grow oats, by far my favorite small grain to mess with anyhow. Good to creep feed calves with as well, when I was selling horse hay I got a couple wagons cleaned and bagged for horse customers as well.
@@PatrickShivers If, IF, you can get a combine to them on time, I've made about 60 bu. with Coker 227 oats. Been recommended a Horizon variety, but I forget the number off the top of my head. Mixon Seed would be the people to ask about that. Plant 2 bushels to the acre, 60 units of liquid N in the spring with a quart of 2,4D. I've had a lot of chicken litter on our land over the years, never put out any preplant fertilizer ahead of planting. I believe they would benefit from a fungicide pass at heading for rust, I've never done it but I think it would be worth it. If you can get them off on time, you can make a pretty good yield, they just don't take weather well if you have to wait on a combine. I am also a believer that oats make a better grazing crop than Wrens Abruzzi rye.
I want to encourage u I envy u. Even with ur problems I totally respect u farmers. I worked in the rat race all my life but I was raised in the country and went to the rat race now retired I sorta wish I would have homestead when I was 30 or so but not really regretting that much. Wish u the best brother
If you ain't been snakebit lately on tractors, my Lord. Hopefully it will be something simple, otherwise not sure you won't be better off trying to trade your way out of the problem. Either way it is going to hurt. There just ain't that much money in farming this year, and next year isn't looking too much better. (Dec cotton, woof) Been thinking more and more if the answer to tillage may not be a big articulated and a Krause Dominator disc ripper. Seems like we are finding the limits to what these big row crop tractors can do, at least in my mind running a big old simple Steiger on a disc ripper with fairly narrow shank spacing and then shallowing up on the rip strip pass in the spring would save some wear and tear and some hours on more expensive tractors, but it is more money to spend on equipment too. I do have neighbors that have went to ripper rolling all their cotton land and planting with a naked 12 row planter and having success with it as well, but I have also spread chicken litter behind some of that ripper rolled land and seen where water will still follow those ripper tracks and cause washouts if you don't run a harrow or vt behind it, so that isn't a perfect solution either. Does seem like there is going to have to be something different done though, at least to me. Equipment cost is eating most farmers alive right now, it just isn't sustainable. Harvesting peanuts in November sucks. Harvesting peanuts in December is effing miserable, and it hasn't even set in to raining yet. Goal with peanuts has always been to get done by Halloween, but it don't always happen that way.
@@johndeere7245 I was thinking the same thing on older articulator. I use to run a JD 8970 on my father’s farm for years. Pulling this same ripper, a 40’ disc, 12 row bedder and 12 row strip till. 7 or 8 years ago ripping then field cultivator to smooth, followed by planter got popular around here. Before that everyone was either strip tilling or bedding every acre. Now everyone is in full experiment mode. Trying all sorts of things and trying to survive
You trade in a broken tractor, they are going to discount the cost of repairs against your trade, no matter what you are paying to fix a tractor. Trading may still be the answer, but no matter what, the dealer still wins.
@johndeere7245 A JD 8530 was last made when? 2009? If the repair costs for Pat's tractor is on the high end, that's near the total value of the tractor, depending on how many hours it has. I just don't see putting that much money back into it. Better to get a newer used tractor with the necessary hp for an expense that high. Maybe insurance can cover it, but what do I know? Pat's gonna do the smart thing best for him.
@@jamiecollins1220 perfect situation with dump cart picking you up you can get 20-25. If it’s a cloudy morning, start cutting that number down. If it’s short rows significantly cut that number down, if the peanuts have a lot of dirt stuck to them (dug wet) cut the number some more
@@billyscruggs9800 no dealer for the larger New Holland equipment within 100s of miles of here. Just the tiny hobby tractors. I have reached out to New Holland through their website numerous times about demoing a farm size tractor. No response whatsoever.
Patrick the pecan expert lady here in Oklahoma told me last year that it pronounced puh kaan and you pee in a can. 😂😂. Man that sucks about your tractor and you could tell in your voice. I notill peanuts this year and according to my soil test leaving the forage on the ground actually was worth 200-250# of pot ash also. Like you said you won't see the N until next year.
@@JimmyClark-1962 I pronounced it puh kaan for the first 30 something years of my life. When my grandmother passed (she always said pea can) I, without a conscious decision or effort, just started saying pea can 🤷🏼♂️
Patrick, great explanation of the nitrogen cycle and nitrogen uptake in plants! Most don't understand it! Thank you Sir for your great videos!
@@ChuckWorkman-y6x thanks for watching Chuck!
Pat, I am in Geneva Co. AL and I might finish digging today if the plows holds together. Had a bearing squealing at me all day yesterday. Maybe twenty acres left. Seventy one years old and this is the latest that I have ever run peanuts.
Thanks Pat for another wonderful video! Hope everything works out for the best with the John Deere! Also you might want to try out a baklava head covering while blowing out the equipment. It keeps the dirt and dust off your face and prevents inhalation of most of the particles. I use them when I cut my lawn.
Hoping the Deere will not be catastrophic for your family. Running any plow in that clay puts extra stress on everything that plows the ground, almost like red cement after a harvest packs it down. Over here in the Dothan area there are quite a few fields with the peanuts still in the ground, so everyone is running late. Going full blast year round like you do, it might be a good opportunity to get that articulating tractor you want when its time to replace one of your current ones to handle that clay. Great video as always, thanks.
@@tunisbalboa8137 I wish I had that 9500 that went dirt cheap at Deanco auction last year
8530 down in 2009 we had 2 4 row Amadas pickers we planted 2000 acres of peanuts. The latest I have ever picked peanuts was Thanksgiving day. They got a heavy frost on them and we lost a lot of them.
Sorry about the transmission problem but they all break down, just cost more on some of those brands! Really appreciate your intel on the fertilizer situation, yes a lot of people don’t think about the value of decaying plants but it does make sense to me. Best of luck! Tennessee
Having a tractor that"s headed for a $30,000.00 + bill would make anyone cry.
Sorry to hear about the transmission problems. Hopefully it is on the low end of the repair cost.
Anxious to see the pecan harvest. My son and I have a small Pecan orchard and custom harvest a couple of others as well. Due to the vagaries of weather we are getting a very late start on harvest and with the depressed prices there is little to no profit potential this year.
@@miketaylor5986 I have a sheller. I sell all of mine & then some direct to end consumers shelled and bagged. Market fluctuations don’t affect me, as end product prices haven’t come down. It’s the middle man corporations squeezing the producers that don’t process and sell their own crop. Been happening in the peanut industry for decades. The biggest players in peanuts expanded into the pecan industry when prices skyrocketed 10-12 years ago. They are now doing to pecan farmers what they did to peanut farmers
I am in east central Georgia, Jenkins County.
We're halfway between Augusta and Savannah.
I can tell you about the pecan harvest here.
There won't be one!
And very minimal harvest for a few years to come.
Hurricane Helene took care of that for us.
@ hurricane Michael in 2018 here. Wiped entire orchards out and devastated ones that did make it through. My trees were young and flexible enough that they came through un harmed
You said that so calm about the transmission. We just replaced the transmission in the 8320R that gets run here.
How many hours on that tranny?
A warning to any and all operators of the new peanut pickers and cotton pickers concerning low hanging wires in your fields. I was picking today with a new Amadas six row and was in a small 15 acre field. On my last dump the buggy just happened to be in the middle of the field. My basket was all the way down but the "spout" wasn't retracted yet and caught the low wire that happened to be a cable/internet line and not the main electric service line. The tractor 8400 Deere and picker are so heavy and massive I didn't even feel the wire tug on me. It broke the pole at the edge of the highway pulling the service line away from a neighbors house across the road and also a barn service as well. The whole mess of wires fell across the top of the picker trapping me inside. Called the boss who called 911 as my phone was about dead. Had to wait 30 minutes for EMC our co op to arrive and get me out. I didn't realize it at the time but I was going into shock and a first responder saw me pacing about and called an ambulance. I refused medical but it took a couple hours for me to get over it. Purpose of this post is this equipment keeps getting bigger and taller and wires that were placed in these fields many years ago are not high enough for the new stuff to clear. ALWAYS BE AWARE OF ANY WIRES THAT CROSS YOUR FIELDS!!!!!
Sorry about the transmission problems. Hope the cost is as minimal as possible.
We're hoin through the same thing right now with a 8370r with the ivt transmission. Nice transmission and it it's great for a lot of different applications. But i don't think its as durable as the power shift transmission.
Your right about the nitrogen. I've tried roller crimping peas before corn and the corn didn't make ears. Did a great job off weed control because the weeds were starved too!
Damn man I hate to here that about the transmission in the 8R. I hope it doesn't hurt to bad. Pray on it God always here's are prayers. Good luck and God bless.
I reckon perfect world would be an older 4WD to flog for the heavy work and a small 8000 just to plant/dig/pull the armadas. Of course the world aint perfect! Sorry to hear about the 8530, hope its not too major.
That socks my man! But as you know that's farming! You always have to have an emergency bank fund for things like that..hope all goes well.
Hello, Patrick! Hopes of a not so costly repair...
@@luisnunes7933 thanks Luis
@@PatrickShivers 👌
That’s tough one. Keep ya head up! Remember you got a lot of folks to feed. We depend on you and all the other farmers! Keep grinding! God bless!
I've always said it cost you more to replace the fertilizer than the bailing is worth but so many farmers do it in my area thinking they are getting ahead by saleing off the bales.
Hattaway and Ragan probably the only one I see grow wheat for cover crop these day.Hattaway usually throw his cattle on it and Ragan harvest not that much wheat planting no more.
@@pricepatrick616 got to sell the grain & the straw to make a profit
If you’re going to do that, you can make a crop of oats or rye much cheaper and sell seed. Can’t seem to get enough cold weather to make a good wheat crop anymore either and no one wants to pay for milling wheat, if you can find a buyer they all want to give feed price. I’d much rather grow oats, by far my favorite small grain to mess with anyhow. Good to creep feed calves with as well, when I was selling horse hay I got a couple wagons cleaned and bagged for horse customers as well.
@ what kind of yield was you getting with the oats? We’ve never grown them, but I’ve always heard the yield significantly less than wheat
@@PatrickShivers If, IF, you can get a combine to them on time, I've made about 60 bu. with Coker 227 oats. Been recommended a Horizon variety, but I forget the number off the top of my head. Mixon Seed would be the people to ask about that. Plant 2 bushels to the acre, 60 units of liquid N in the spring with a quart of 2,4D. I've had a lot of chicken litter on our land over the years, never put out any preplant fertilizer ahead of planting. I believe they would benefit from a fungicide pass at heading for rust, I've never done it but I think it would be worth it. If you can get them off on time, you can make a pretty good yield, they just don't take weather well if you have to wait on a combine. I am also a believer that oats make a better grazing crop than Wrens Abruzzi rye.
@ great info
Thnks , sorry about your tractor
Do you know what you're gonna do with the 8530 yet?
Patrick, sorry to hear about the transmission. I will pray for good news. If you don’t mind, how many hours on it when it started to go down?
I want to encourage u I envy u. Even with ur problems I totally respect u farmers. I worked in the rat race all my life but I was raised in the country and went to the rat race now retired I sorta wish I would have homestead when I was 30 or so but not really regretting that much. Wish u the best brother
@@mikefritz4111 thanks Mike
I'm a green guy but maybe u should think about that massy u had last week
Our transmission in our 370r went out cost us 16,000
If you ain't been snakebit lately on tractors, my Lord. Hopefully it will be something simple, otherwise not sure you won't be better off trying to trade your way out of the problem. Either way it is going to hurt. There just ain't that much money in farming this year, and next year isn't looking too much better. (Dec cotton, woof)
Been thinking more and more if the answer to tillage may not be a big articulated and a Krause Dominator disc ripper. Seems like we are finding the limits to what these big row crop tractors can do, at least in my mind running a big old simple Steiger on a disc ripper with fairly narrow shank spacing and then shallowing up on the rip strip pass in the spring would save some wear and tear and some hours on more expensive tractors, but it is more money to spend on equipment too. I do have neighbors that have went to ripper rolling all their cotton land and planting with a naked 12 row planter and having success with it as well, but I have also spread chicken litter behind some of that ripper rolled land and seen where water will still follow those ripper tracks and cause washouts if you don't run a harrow or vt behind it, so that isn't a perfect solution either. Does seem like there is going to have to be something different done though, at least to me. Equipment cost is eating most farmers alive right now, it just isn't sustainable.
Harvesting peanuts in November sucks. Harvesting peanuts in December is effing miserable, and it hasn't even set in to raining yet. Goal with peanuts has always been to get done by Halloween, but it don't always happen that way.
@@johndeere7245 I was thinking the same thing on older articulator. I use to run a JD 8970 on my father’s farm for years. Pulling this same ripper, a 40’ disc, 12 row bedder and 12 row strip till. 7 or 8 years ago ripping then field cultivator to smooth, followed by planter got popular around here. Before that everyone was either strip tilling or bedding every acre. Now everyone is in full experiment mode. Trying all sorts of things and trying to survive
Hope things turn out better for you. Going to have to turn those John Deere tractors lose , unreliable.
Take the repair cost of that Deere and put it toward a new Massey, or even a Fendt...Its nice to think about and dream.
A paid for tractor, repair it and move on.
You trade in a broken tractor, they are going to discount the cost of repairs against your trade, no matter what you are paying to fix a tractor. Trading may still be the answer, but no matter what, the dealer still wins.
@johndeere7245 A JD 8530 was last made when? 2009? If the repair costs for Pat's tractor is on the high end, that's near the total value of the tractor, depending on how many hours it has. I just don't see putting that much money back into it. Better to get a newer used tractor with the necessary hp for an expense that high. Maybe insurance can cover it, but what do I know? Pat's gonna do the smart thing best for him.
How many acres can one harvester harvest in a day good conditions?
@@jamiecollins1220 perfect situation with dump cart picking you up you can get 20-25. If it’s a cloudy morning, start cutting that number down. If it’s short rows significantly cut that number down, if the peanuts have a lot of dirt stuck to them (dug wet) cut the number some more
@ that’s better than I thought.
YOU NEED A NEW HOLLAND!!
@@billyscruggs9800 no dealer for the larger New Holland equipment within 100s of miles of here. Just the tiny hobby tractors. I have reached out to New Holland through their website numerous times about demoing a farm size tractor. No response whatsoever.
Patrick the pecan expert lady here in Oklahoma told me last year that it pronounced puh kaan and you pee in a can. 😂😂. Man that sucks about your tractor and you could tell in your voice. I notill peanuts this year and according to my soil test leaving the forage on the ground actually was worth 200-250# of pot ash also. Like you said you won't see the N until next year.
@@JimmyClark-1962 I pronounced it puh kaan for the first 30 something years of my life. When my grandmother passed (she always said pea can) I, without a conscious decision or effort, just started saying pea can 🤷🏼♂️
@ yeah my mom said it the same way
Man, that’s a hard pill to swallow! Know yet if it’s that valve, or the transmission?
@@jackweeks8099 may find out this afternoon. My cousin is a transmission mechanic for Deere. He’s coming over after church.
Keep us posted on the tranny please.🙏
@@pioneerpete8170 I’m curious myself too.
Why don't you get the Massey Ferguson