Thanks Mike. Glad it was helpful! I worry that these longer episodes will lose the viewer's interest, but there's too much information to shorten them up.
Another fascinating gunsmithing video Mark. I learn more each time I tune in to your videos. I don’t have any set trigger rifles, but now I know how they work. Thanks again!
Thanks for another great video. I think I need to view it 3 more times before I get the whole mechanism straight. Maybe I need to buy an 1873 with a set trigger for educational purposes. Nothing replaces hands on…
Thanks Richard. It takes some time to figure them out. One of the biggest problems is finding parts for them. I hope to make set trigger parts in the future, so they're available
Thank you so much for this video! I just realized the 73 I have had a set trigger and your careful explaining of this is helping me immensely! Will definitely subscribe.
You've got that right. I was just telling someone that I shouldn't shoot them if I plan to sell them. I never want to sell them after they've shot well.
That was great. I love it when you show little intricate parts how they work and how they go together that's just amazing to me. You are a man of patience and determination, you don't let us see you get aggravated and I'm sure you do from time to time. Thanks so much for this video I certainly enjoyed it. I enjoy watching Mark Novak but he deals with all kind of weapons whereas you deal with lever action and that's what I love is deliver action. So I'm sorry this was so long but this is what I had to say. Thanks again so much for the video. Keep ye powder dry
Many thanks for posting this one Mark! The set trigger system is very delicate for rough range use, and I can see how there was a tendency towards the non set system back in the day, but properly maintained by someone that understands the system should see then working correctly, I have not worked on the inside fly type, but I can see that is less complicated to make than the outside fly, which is always a fiddly job, just keep on enjoying yourself! Chris B.
Great to see these extremely delicate parts being timed in to each other and function as intended over 100 years ago! I have a few 1873 set trigger tangs with most of the parts intact, but the hammer sear area needing repair. You make it all seem so simple Mark, but knowing how the parts interact when not broken or worn is half the battle. Thanks for presenting this repair.
You're welcome, Karl! If you can tig weld or know someone who can weld the hammer and sear, you'd have no trouble rebuilding them with your machining and tool-making background.
@@thecinnabar8442 Just curious if set triggers were that common. It seems like they would be relatively fragile for the every day person of the time and not hold up well to everyday use and "abuse".
That was very interesting as some people know the inner workings of set triggers but don’t necessarily want to share that knowledge. Could you do a little more information on your loads for these older rifles 38wcf, 44wcf ect.
Mark maybe you should start reproducing some of these key parts that ware lol. You are getting pretty good at the inter workings and know how on them. With your equipment and know how I’m sure you could come up with something.
I'd love to add a set trigger to my original 1873 factory deluxe model if it didn't require modifications to the original parts. Does anyone offer drop in triggers? I also have a 1873 Uberti that can be modified if possible?
The set trigger gangs were machined different too, so you most likely would need the entire assembly. And to complicate it more, the set trigger parts are different on early first model 1873's and second models, vs the later third models, as Mark shown with the two types of hammer overides.
Thanks Perry! It has taken a lot of patience to figure them out and I often learn something new when I work on one. Fortunately, these two were relatively easy to fix.
I have an unrelated question for you due to your eye for detail. I have a Rock Island 1911. On the frame under the grip panel the original bushing must have been stripped and replaced by drilling and adding new threads with some kind of a heli coil which has been stripped again, so no threads for the bushing and not enough room to drill any bigger. The bushing still fits relatively tight. My question is if you think red loktight would do the job of securing or would I have to do some kind of soldering the new threads appear to be brass whereas the bushing is steal. I made some Stag grips panels for it and would like to get them installed! I hope you understand the question as I probably don't know all the correct terminology #?*!
My original 1885 Low Wall (made in 1902) has a set trigger that needs attention. The original adjustment screw has been replaced with a much larger screw, with the trigger having practically zero adjustment while still remaining finctional... a fraction of a turn one way, the hammer will drop with no trigger movement... a fraction of a turn the other way, the trigger has zero movement and will not drop a cocked hammer. With the screw set in the only position where it kinda-sorta functions, the "regular" pull breaks at 3.5lbs, where the set pull is practically un-measurable. It breaks before my finger can really even feel the trigger shoe. Your thoughts on fixing this?
I'm very sorry. I'd love to help, but I can't speculate on how to repair something as intricate as a set trigger mechanism on a firearm that I haven't seen. Especially considering the liability surrounding firearms.
@@thecinnabar8442 Understood. I've never fiddled with them before and thought you may be able to shed some light on where I should look. Thanks anyway bud.
Great video and two very nice rifles. I would love to have an old one. Are you going to sell these rifles? Thanks for sharing your video very educational. Stay well & safe.
Evening, do you have to set the trigger everytime you fire the rifle ? And what is the point of a set trigger. As never come across them over here in day to day shooting. Great enjoyable video. Regards to you all , Richard 🇬🇧
A set trigger is adjustable trigger that can be adjusted lighter than the standard trigger. If the set trigger isn't set, the rifle operates in standard trigger mode. The shooter can choose to set the trigger for a light pull or leave it in standard trigger mode.
44 minutes went by quickly. I really enjoy your approach to explaining what you are doing. Thank you
Thanks Mike. Glad it was helpful! I worry that these longer episodes will lose the viewer's interest, but there's too much information to shorten them up.
Man I love these longer videos
Thanks Miles. Glad you liked it!
Another fascinating gunsmithing video Mark. I learn more each time I tune in to your videos. I don’t have any set trigger rifles, but now I know how they work. Thanks again!
Thanks Dogbone!
Great work! Great to see those old dogs bark again!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge so we can learn.
You're very welcome, Creig!
Thanks for another great video. I think I need to view it 3 more times before I get the whole mechanism straight. Maybe I need to buy an 1873 with a set trigger for educational purposes. Nothing replaces hands on…
Thanks Richard. It takes some time to figure them out. One of the biggest problems is finding parts for them. I hope to make set trigger parts in the future, so they're available
Maybe your best video yet Mark!. Well done!!
Thanks Mark! Sadly, it's the least watched episode by a long way. There must be a pretty narrow interest in set triggers.
Thank you so much for this video! I just realized the 73 I have had a set trigger and your careful explaining of this is helping me immensely! Will definitely subscribe.
Great job Mark. Always enjoy the way you do things.
Thanks Jim! We do our best. :)
Mark, another wonderful and educational video. Thank you 😊
Thanks Angel! Glad you liked it.
Your love of those vintage lever actions is contagious. Must be difficult to let go of them when someone shows interest in buying one.
You've got that right. I was just telling someone that I shouldn't shoot them if I plan to sell them. I never want to sell them after they've shot well.
That was great. I love it when you show little intricate parts how they work and how they go together that's just amazing to me. You are a man of patience and determination, you don't let us see you get aggravated and I'm sure you do from time to time. Thanks so much for this video I certainly enjoyed it. I enjoy watching Mark Novak but he deals with all kind of weapons whereas you deal with lever action and that's what I love is deliver action. So I'm sorry this was so long but this is what I had to say. Thanks again so much for the video. Keep ye powder dry
Thanks Terry. I try to keep this a drama-free channel. Actually, I enjoy it enough that I rarely have to edit out my frustrations. :)
Great job. Very detailed work
Thanks Doc!
Nice work on the set trigger I've seen them in the past. They are nice to have but don't replace a nice sear letoff.
Many thanks for posting this one Mark! The set trigger system is very delicate for rough range use, and I can see how there was a tendency towards the non set system back in the day, but properly maintained by someone that understands the system should see then working correctly, I have not worked on the inside fly type, but I can see that is less complicated to make than the outside fly, which is always a fiddly job, just keep on enjoying yourself! Chris B.
Thanks a bunch, Chris!
Great to see these extremely delicate parts being timed in to each other and function as intended over 100 years ago! I have a few 1873 set trigger tangs with most of the parts intact, but the hammer sear area needing repair. You make it all seem so simple Mark, but knowing how the parts interact when not broken or worn is half the battle. Thanks for presenting this repair.
You're welcome, Karl! If you can tig weld or know someone who can weld the hammer and sear, you'd have no trouble rebuilding them with your machining and tool-making background.
Great video! I love your gunsmithing videos - please keep them coming t
Beautiful firearms
Great video!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Great video. Very interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@thecinnabar8442 Just curious if set triggers were that common. It seems like they would be relatively fragile for the every day person of the time and not hold up well to everyday use and "abuse".
interesting video , learned a bunch & enjoyed .. Thanks
Nice Work!! 👍👍
Thanks Benjy
I have always been a mechanical person, but John Browning must have been an extremely intelligent man.
THANK YOU SIR GREAT RIDE
Now We Need a Video on Release Triggers Like One of my Model 12 Winchester Shots Guns Has Not Sure It Was Factory But Is Kinda Unique 😀
Sounds fascinating. I'll be looking forward to you bringing it out here for some shooting. :)
@@thecinnabar8442 That Would Be a Dream Vacation For Me to Come Out to The Cinnabar Ranch 😀😊😀❤️
That was very interesting as some people know the inner workings of set triggers but don’t necessarily want to share that knowledge. Could you do a little more information on your loads for these older rifles 38wcf, 44wcf ect.
Sadly, I don't get much time for load development or reloading these days since I stay so busy gunsmithing.
Lots of Excellent Info and What a Cool Pair of Rifles 😀❤️😀 I Am Also Curious on The Ranges of All Those Express Sights Mark 😮😀👍🏼
Thanks Chris! Keep an eye out. We're going to find out soon. :)
@@thecinnabar8442 Can’t Wait 😀
Mark maybe you should start reproducing some of these key parts that ware lol. You are getting pretty good at the inter workings and know how on them. With your equipment and know how I’m sure you could come up with something.
I'd love to add a set trigger to my original 1873 factory deluxe model if it didn't require modifications to the original parts. Does anyone offer drop in triggers? I also have a 1873 Uberti that can be modified if possible?
Nobody makes a drop in set trigger assembly. I sure wish they would. The parts are nearly impossible to find.
The set trigger gangs were machined different too, so you most likely would need the entire assembly. And to complicate it more, the set trigger parts are different on early first model 1873's and second models, vs the later third models, as Mark shown with the two types of hammer overides.
I don’ t think that ease of maintenance went into the design of the 1873 trigger assembly! What patience you have… Perry P., So Cal
Thanks Perry! It has taken a lot of patience to figure them out and I often learn something new when I work on one. Fortunately, these two were relatively easy to fix.
I have an unrelated question for you due to your eye for detail. I have a Rock Island 1911. On the frame under the grip panel the original bushing must have been stripped and replaced by drilling and adding new threads with some kind of a heli coil which has been stripped again, so no threads for the bushing and not enough room to drill any bigger. The bushing still fits relatively tight. My question is if you think red loktight would do the job of securing or would I have to do some kind of soldering the new threads appear to be brass whereas the bushing is steal. I made some Stag grips panels for it and would like to get them installed! I hope you understand the question as I probably don't know all the correct terminology #?*!
Awesome video! I have an original 1873 with factory letter and it says I have a set trigger but not working ....can I send it to you to fix it? Thanks
tomorrow is set trigger saturday
Great video thanks for making it. I love the old lever rifles. Where do you look to find them for sale?
I scour the internet and go to a lot of gun shows. Thanks for watching.
My original 1885 Low Wall (made in 1902) has a set trigger that needs attention. The original adjustment screw has been replaced with a much larger screw, with the trigger having practically zero adjustment while still remaining finctional... a fraction of a turn one way, the hammer will drop with no trigger movement... a fraction of a turn the other way, the trigger has zero movement and will not drop a cocked hammer.
With the screw set in the only position where it kinda-sorta functions, the "regular" pull breaks at 3.5lbs, where the set pull is practically un-measurable. It breaks before my finger can really even feel the trigger shoe.
Your thoughts on fixing this?
I'm very sorry. I'd love to help, but I can't speculate on how to repair something as intricate as a set trigger mechanism on a firearm that I haven't seen. Especially considering the liability surrounding firearms.
@@thecinnabar8442 Understood. I've never fiddled with them before and thought you may be able to shed some light on where I should look. Thanks anyway bud.
Great video and two very nice rifles. I would love to have an old one. Are you going to sell these rifles? Thanks for sharing your video very educational. Stay well & safe.
Thanks Thomas! I do intend to sell them. In fact, I have them and a couple of other 1873's on my table at a gun show this weekend.
@@thecinnabar8442 Can you ship them to people? I'm nowhere near your state.
Evening, do you have to set the trigger everytime you fire the rifle ? And what is the point of a set trigger. As never come across them over here in day to day shooting. Great enjoyable video.
Regards to you all , Richard 🇬🇧
A set trigger is adjustable trigger that can be adjusted lighter than the standard trigger. If the set trigger isn't set, the rifle operates in standard trigger mode. The shooter can choose to set the trigger for a light pull or leave it in standard trigger mode.
@@thecinnabar8442 Thank you.
Regards Richard
Great work but for my money I would not own a lever gun with a set trigger. Time spent on lightening a standard trigger works for me.