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- Teraiaia servers are pretty sweet but why they die? :(
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Hey, I'm the owner and lead developer for the Penguin Games server. A few comments from my own observations dealing with this:
- I am not happy about the player counts either
- When player counts are low, it causes a self-perpetuating death spiral where people join the server, see that the lobby for their favorite game isn't active, and then leave. Basically the only thing that helps revive player count is for the player count to be revived.
- "Just add more games" is easier said than done. Our dev team is small and we already have like 30 different gamemodes. From my view, we have had a pretty bad scope creep problem, and personally I'd rather prioritize quality over quantity. Any time a dev spends on a new gamemode could be spent adding new content or fixing bugs for an existing gamemode. At least that's my view of it; of course I wouldn't want players to get bored with what's there but I think we have quite a bit of content right now.
- The game hub being obscure is kind of intentional because I wouldn't want lobbies to be spread too thin, so we hope that concentrating players in a smaller selection of rotating gamemodes provides a better experience. I'd love to make all gamemodes playable at all time but we don't have the player counts for that, and we didn't even when we were at our peak.
- COVID helped us a lot, but unfortunately I can't cause a new pandemic to make my Terraria server more popular again :(.
- Another factor is that TH-camrs don't cover us as often because Terraria server videos don't do as well in the algorithm. I assume that viewers don't care to hear about it because they don't even know what's out there.
- Yes, ReLogic has chronically neglected this scene. I would love to see an ingame server list.
- Map size variation in Spleef is supposed to be coming soon!
Love the work you guys are doing on the server. Apologies if anything came off as harsh. I should've clarified more that I mainly blame ReLogic for the current faults of servers lol
@@ShardonOkgg lol
@@vil9810 gg lol
@@Piace1209 Today had like 40 people
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i gotta say its pretty brave for your FIRST criticism of a gamemode to be "it needs a battle pass" like they arent one of the most hated things in gaming for good reasons
and pretty brave for one of his critisisms being that s are "retarded" as if high-stakes pvp is a focus of the game
and then get scared of saying "sons of bitches"
my first reply got hidden so i had to censor it:
and pretty brave for one of his critisisms being that s are "ret*rd*d" as if high-stakes pvp is a focus of the game
and then get scared of saying "sons of b!tches"
The answer why ppl don't play multiplayer is simple: in Minecraft, there's almost nothing to in the game, while multiplayer provides some communication and fun activities with friends, while in Terraria you have access to excess amounts of solo content and fun activities which is why multiplayer always seems redundant besides a small group of friends playing coop.
That's an interesting way to look at it tbh
To be honest, I disagree with it being easy to play with your friends. I think it can be hard to play and commit to a terraria world (especially if you're older). For people like me, hanging out on a server sounds great.
@@evandrofilipe1526 Fair enough
committing to a world is a lot of effort, and sometimes you dont have the time or willingness to do so. Minecraft's servers are a lot more convenient if you just want to chill with friends and have a good time. I wouldn't say that terraria is hard to play with friends tho, just that it has a different appeal. Minecraft is good if you just want to have some fun for a little bit, and not think about it too much. I'd say that terraria is more if you want to have a bit more depth to it.
both are good games tho
@@atch4764 It's not hard, it's very convenient and I agree it has greater depth. This is more of a "why can't we have both" kinda situation.
I got a penguin game ad while watching this video
Same
Kinda funny how I did too
same
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Dude same
Hi! I am the lead admin & developer from Terraria Minigames server. In Terraria, the servers are really poorly adapted. There is no good API like in Minecraft. There is nothing to attract the attention of players to the servers. And if a player has joined the server, it is difficult to keep him. For example, we have been thinking for a long time about making it as easy as possible for players to adapt to the server. TH-cam only helps, but it is not always possible to get a video from a major youtuber ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Really?
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Yeah, the main thing is not to confuse the Terraria Minigames with the Pedguin Minigames 😅
Hello lead admin or dev I just wanna say that I feel like I have been banned for a false reason. It was in cctg and I was falsely banned by "item spawning or wall clipping" I might be wrong but I promise I love penguin games and I have no intention to cheat (also cctg is my favourite game) if possible that you're reading this then I am hoping I can get unbanned (I don't have discord or anything)
@@Fallguystuff he's not admin now lol
A lot of people play multiplayer in Terraria, just not a lot on public servers. Public servers don't have nearly as much potential as, say, a game like Minecraft. However, a playthrough with friends or even just random strangers you find online and start a groupchat with is and will be one of the most magical things you’ll experience in a game.
Minecraft playthroughs are often isolated even on multiplayer servers due to lack of any incentive to stick together especially because of the mob limit making the game easier than it already is when there are lots of people online, while having someone to base with would more often than not lead to betrayal or getting targeted than a peaceful experience, and the progression ends really fast with mostly mindless grinding making up the majority of the game, so after just a few days you will have no reason to remain on the survival server other than build structures or do certain community events to stave off boredom from lack of stuff to do.
Meanwhile in Terraria there are certain things like boss fights with the bosses scaling in stats to how many players are online, that encourages players to stick together and take down the threat. Going your separate ways is rarely a good idea when venturing into the unknown, as the evil regions and underground jungle will lead to a lot of pain and having one friend with you ensures a safety net for any coins or items you may lose on death, which is quite common in Terraria due to the obscene difficulty spikes on higher difficulties.
Basically, what it boils down to, is that Minecraft, due to its limited progression, becomes a lot more competitive due to players being the main threat in a much more peaceful environment than Terraria, which has an emphasis on cooperation against an extremely hostile environment, where players are either already competing against the eldritch horrors plaguing the land, or are at a point where they are literally so powerful that attacking each other will just lead to both players oneshotting each other before either side has the slightest chance to evade or perform game-changing outplays leading to one's victory. This makes Minecraft a better experience on public servers where there is constant competition, but Terraria a better experience on private multiplayer playthroughs due to its co-op being actually meaningful.
In Minecraft, you band together to kill a rivaling group over control of the world spawn. In Terraria, you band together to kill f*cking elder gods and destroy planets with full auto firework launchers that shoot f*cking nukes.
That is actually a good way to sum it up. Thanks for taking the time to write this
Bro couldn’t resist starting a Minecraft vs terraria debate
Im the owner of eternia, and i can honestly say If terraria actually supported us, it would both explode terraria server player count but also help terraria build there own player count.
W critique i didnt think about how shitty the ui for joining a server is
Yeah the lack of ui for servers in Terraria needing people to go actively looking online for IPs to join is kind of dissapointing. Minecraft at least has a bit more to it's multiplayer ui
hi afro
hello
*As the owner of a PS4/PS5 all items server, I see an average of 4 - 30 new players joining every 24 hours, depending on the day.*
*My server's PvP and building community is quite active, but is limited by the player limit of 16.*
*Open for questions.*
do you think crossplay will help?
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*Likely yes, depending on how it functions.*
Are you aware you're speaking very boldly?
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*👍 I prefer the style of bold text, and it is easier to read for those who have visibility issues.*
@@Koogun your server better than chiefassassin server
Hi, I am the founder and sole developer of Eternia.
It is obvious that Terraria is simply not designed for large scale public multiplayer servers. All of the solutions we have now: TShock, plugins, automatically refilling all items areas, lobby switching, etc. are achieved as a result of reverse-engineering Terraria. Using hacky techniques to patch the Terraria server assemblies and hook our own code into it, in combination with decompilation of the game’s source code to figure out how mechanics are implemented so we can extend/modify them as best we can in a server-sided fashion. The whole premise of these big public servers exists on the basis of community developers trying to push the game’s limited multiplayer capabilities to the extreme.
When you open a server up to beyond your group of friends, you open it up to malicious actors, and Terraria’s protocol and error tolerance/correction is not robust in the slightest when exposed to the vast array of exploits that exist, because this is simply not the intended use case.
Re-Logic does not provide public documentation. Re-Logic does not provide public developer tools like SDKs or a server-side modding API. It’s obvious that support for large Minecraft-style public multiplayer server networks was never meant to be part of the product. The Terraria server developer community has requested certain protocol changes and minor additions (such as SSC), and Re-Logic has however obliged.
We were the ones who chose to push it to its limits, beyond what was intended. For Re-Logic to make public multiplayer servers robust and act on these highlighted issues would be a massive commitment at the behest of our entitled expectations.
It would add longevity to the game to really flesh out multiplayer and build a more solid foundation for our creativity as Terraria server developers, but I think at this point they might as well rectify it in “Terraria 2”.
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On Classic Capture the Flag I'd agree with you on the inherent weirdness of invincibility frames and melee detection but it's the opposite perspective given in that terragrim example - any melee weapon that has a decent arc (even a platinum broadsword) and knockback can do a weird stunlock of the character - where doing the same swing, you hit your opponent multiple times while knocking them back - sort of carrying them through the air. The best example is the fiery greatsword which is so damn powerful in this gamemode though that comes with the skill ceiling. I've at the very least decent - I kill either a biome boss, skeletron or queen bee before time runs out because it's fairly easy when boss health isnt affected by player count (and the gamemode is on classic so it's easy to navigate the world). You can fairly easily get to a stage when you have a grappling hook (the best mobility item - bypass knockback), a movement accessory to help and melee weapon (the crimtane or demonite hammer is actually better for this 'stunlock' of hit detection on opponents than the sword but for other metals sword is dominate).
Though, at that level the equivalent ranger weapon is fairly powerful though the grappling hook allows one to abuse the stunlock to the utmost. I'm not sure if some meddling with invincibility frames should be applied here - its a mid-high level strat, tending on the high level as it's best used when you have the best material - hellstone (or I hear in some rare cases hallowed bars).
There are greater problems attached though they tend to skill level (jungle is pretty much better than snow/dungeon) & dependency on rng for team to win - it can be infuriating to be sacked with a hard to traverse evil biome preventing you from exploring beyond or getting nothing useful from chests.
0:03 i clicked on the video out of curiosity and first thing i see is me rushing full speed to kill the guy with the red gem and failing miserably on penguin games ctg 💀💀
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Teeria Legends player here, the server is still alive and lively. Didn't know Pedguin's server had died or smth. We still have a lot of new players joining every day and are still frequently updated. We now even have a custom Moon Lord battle which is quite fun.
7:05 :O that's me! (the green slime)
despite the low player counts, some players have been on the server for a WHILE and they're astonishingly good at many of the games
"Parkoore isnt as fun in 2d as it is in 3d"
Celeste looking at you from the shadows.
Smiling.
i mean there isn't an octo-directional dash in terraria (and no, hooks don't count)
I feel like the word parkour is usually used to refer to games that aren't designed to be platformers.
Celeste is a platformer, obviously it's going to be more fun.
People moved on
I used to play on Pedguin's server almost daily, like 5-6 years ago. I made a lot of Steam friends over it (although I eventually lost contact with all of them). Eventually I just played different games and sort of forgot the server existed. I lowkey want to check it out again at some point.
I think my problem is that Terraria servers often focus too much on how Minecraft's servers work and they try to adapt them in this game. Sometimes it does work, but a lot of the time I feel like it's not nearly as good in Terraria. I love Terraria multiplayer, but what makes the game fun for me is the exploration and progression, and a lot of servers just simply lack that. I think stuff like minigames are just simply not nearly as fun due to Terraria's limitations in its 2D world, but I think it has potential for stuff like PVP, survival or maybe some kind of leveling system. I think many servers don't quite focus on what people like the most in the base game itself, but it's hard to do so due to the limitations put on servers.
About the registration thingy, that is a server side client called tShock, which allows for devs and server owners to install plugins. It requires players to sign in to save their data.
BMT imo are one of the most fun thing for me since you could be praised by your build or just not sweat, though the only thing i dont like about bmt is.. you gotta TYPE FAST
This has happened after every major Terraria update. The playercounts always peaked heavily aroudn those days but then started dwindling down after a while. I remember how busy the game was during 1.2 days though. Good times.
There was a german server I often played on and even was Admin on in the past. Unfortunately, the owner had to close the server down at some point and has probably since then long moved on from Terraria.
A.T.S.P?
I think that part of the problem may be because terraria is a game people play to fight bosses, advance and overcome challenges. Pretty much all content on the internet revolves around classes, playthroughs, bosses, weapons, builds etc. And if someone wants to play minigames they usually go to minecraft.
Personally never knew there were servers, thx for the information, might even try it out.
1:59 that's because ReLogic outsourced the mobille port to another developer (Pipeworks Studios), i guess they could just copy the code and deploy into the PC version but who knows if they aren't gonna do it for 1.4.5
6:47 - hits dealth from other players give more invencibility frames, thats a VANILLA feature
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@@ShardonOk great response
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@@ShardonOk
Nah, bisexual.
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I played on this server back in 2018 and I really enjoyed it. I made a couple of friends but after a while, they disappeared and so did I. It’s a shame that the player count has dropped that steeply since then. It was a good server.
My favorite game was the Tanks game (can’t remember the game).
I legitimately got an add for penguin gaming sever watching this never seen it before
2:05 Didn't know what that servers dat file was before, and just went into it with notepad and was able to check inside it, probably could remove servers from your list this way instead of going scorched earth. but yeah, that menu really needs some love
I remember a server I used to play all the time a while back that had custom weapons plugin and it was essentially an rpg, unfortunately it closed I wanna say around 2017 or so, don't even remember its name.
Terraria in my opinion isn’t really designed for Multiplayer. You can bring pre-created characters, server worlds are limited in both size and resources, game has an end-point, I doubt servers have much tools to do much.
I haven’t really played on servers or made one, so I don’t have much info. Sorry.
Yesterday I remembered it existed and tried to play ctg. I did not expect to see only 2 people in queue
I remember playing on one of the servers (I was fighting zombies) but they wouldn't let me move because of random issues so I was just a fidgeting stone statue for most of it
I have played on a terraria server and i think it was dark gaming but everytime i joined i was kicked like 5 minutes later so i stopped playing on it and it worked once. When i was trying to play with a friend
Holy crap! I didn't even know terraria servers existed! Well, kind of, sinc eI play with my friends sometimes. But I did NOT expect a public terraria server to exist
Man I miss Teeria Legends so much.
Hopefully someone here remembers that.
Some of my most fond memories in Terraria.
Yessir teeria legends was something
it's still doing good rn lol, they're doing an unofficial mc thing rn lmao, just normal skyblock and survival lol
the server is still active rn
the server is still here lol, still many players joining, and also the server is getting updated once in a while. Although the old server was deleted, I personally think the current version is much better.
I used to play terraria public servers over 10 years ago back in the 1.1 days (back when IcyTerraria and Colins Fun Server was a thing). Servers nowadays just have too many hoops to jump through to access features of the vanilla game like paint and certain weapons.
I've been playing this game for around 5 years and never knew that there was multiplayer servers
Man, I knew from the beggining that there is a multiplayer section but I only played with friends. I got to know there were dedicated servers at my 4th year playing terraria. It would be great if re-logic tries to focus more on the multiplayer secction.
Terraria is a 2D game but pvp on terraria is sick when everyone is on the underground and you get to find someone is maximum adrenaline, it's like 2D rouguelike fornite
I play on pedguin occasionally, especially a few months back when payday 2 got an update which killed my enjoyment of the game (if you know you know) and it's very fun to play every now and then.
Parkour, Build my Thing, and Racing are what I enjoy the most, but between those three, literally only one of them gets constant players, that being Parkour, and it's one of the few gamemodes where more players aren't needed to fully enjoy it. It's sad, but it is what it is.
NOOOOOOOOOO MY 5000 HOURS ON THIS SERVER AND I WASNT IN THE VIDEO NOOOOOOOOO
ok though seriously i thank you a lot for this video.
i love this server a lot, the memories, the people, the skills i have developed, my personality forged from this server.
i do agree a lot with the points you've made in this video.
multiplayer ui is horrendous and joining a server is like pretty hard.
though i'd like to add some of my own points for why the server was dying
(i was there before the rise, during the peak, the downfall of it all)
1. there's hardly any publicity from external sources (thank you for making this video)
2. theres a bit too good players that discourages new players. (im looking at you solar lums)
3. during 2021, there was a lot of cool af events such as echomaze, cryptorunes, coordhunt, and a lot of hosts.
this kept a lot of people on the server, and thus more people that came in, stayed because of this.
4. LAG IS FRICKING HORRIBLE.
lag is such a big factor on ruining the server experience. what happened in that cctg match of yours was that the guy
probably had 500ms and so when u hit him, he took damage from your screen yes, but on his, only half a second later
(500ms) only then he takes damage. and ONLY after he takes damage on his screen then you can damage him again.
thats all i have to say though, congrats to ml piace, ponky, deer to be in the video those are my friends oh god i regret not staying up to the 3 am to play in this server and be IN THE DAMN VIDEO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
another point, the latest spike hitbox fricking sucks, you dont even hit the spike yet and you take damage, you can literally use cloud in a bottle jump before hitting the spike and still hit it it sucks so much
It's true most of the og players in every game still main it and makes it impossible for the new players to play because of the experience they gained over the years makes them almost untouchable and i'm no one to speak because that's what happened with the mode i play lmfao
Yeah, point 2 is solvable with skill based matchmaking and point 4 is solvable by splitting the server into multiple regions (like a US host and an EU host). However for both of those solutions, unless you have a sufficiently high player count, neither are viable because they split up lobbies too much.
I still have fun playing penguin game sometimes
they should make a gamemode where you play Terraria on special seed like get fixed boi that wipes every 2 weeks and changes seeds i think this would be a lotta fun as a gamemode or a server on it's own
Idk man, terraria is a really good and fun game single player, unlike minecraft, forcing players to do something else. just my opinion tho
Teeria Legends was my favorite server, and I think it has a much more interesting approach towards what a Terraria server can be, but it looks like the player count has gone way down there as well. It used to be bustling at all times way back when!
In addition, I feel like there used to be significantly more building-centric and general hangout type Terraria servers than there are now, as well. Minigame servers are awesome, but they used to not be the only thing on offer on the Terraria server browser! And that's not a criticism of the servers that do minigames, it's mostly just an observation. I used to hang out on Terraria servers a lot around the 1.2.4-1.3 days, and while they never did Minecraft server numbers, they felt more active than Terraria servers generally are these days, and had more variety in what they offered. People would just come around to goof off and chat, and make builds together. It was a lot of fun, but I honestly have no clue how you would even go about bringing that kind of community back.
I just got an ad for penguin games when watching this video, kinda funny
I tried to join pedguins server many times but it would just sit at connecting forever
The thing is most players don't even know that servers existed in fact I never knew they existed either until I saw this video. I think the terraria developers need to make it so that servers are more easily accessible in later updates.
Literally got a penguin games add while watching this 💀💀💀
tbh doing parkour to reach more difficult levels is a good thing imagine being a newbie and having to do hook jumps on pink slime blocks or using your movement items efficiently
server ui thing is a good point, but adding a straigh up banner to every entry, feels a bit overkill imo, a small icon like Minecraft has feels like it would work better, specially when considering that it would also be more consistent with other selection menus in terrraria itself, such as the character, world or resource pack selectors
BAHAHAHA the funny thing is when watching this I got an ad for the server
*Short answer:* Terraria wasn't designed for multiplayer and creative freedom, it's a 'linear progression' sandbox, not a creative one.
The sandbox aspect of Terraria was always secondary and not Primary
I believe this to be VERY expected, but not because of server problems, but terraria problems, and still remember times I played on servers more than 10 years ago. First - Limited world. Second - You can log in with an existing character. I know that this barely sounds like a issues for "games" servers, but that's how the online community starts in games like these. I still remember playing older times playing on Minecraft servers - most of them were for simple survival and progression with lots of other players. That was hella fun. And that was how it started and progressed from there. There's no progression like this, casual gameplay like this in terraria to kickstart the online scene. And I doubt there will be, actually, since Terraria and Minecraft are extremely different.
There are still very good servers, like Teeria Legends. A true mmorpg experience with lots on unique mechanics and engaging systems of progression. The people there have lots of love for the game and the community. ❤
Long ago, approximately a decade long, I joined a very populated server with a friend, and started playing PvP.
Once fighting with random people, some overpowered player appeared and killed me almost instantly various times. Then, I hit them with my sword (An Excalibur I guess?) and the game froze for like five seconds, then I saw the numeric pop ups of how much damage I made to them and it was an extremely high count, then I got instantly kicked. When I tried to enter again, it said that I was banned and that "we don't tolerate hackers here".
So I suppose somebody hacked my damage to get me banned or that the game bugged, and the server automatically banned me after detecting such impossible quantity of damage.
That's my funny little story with online PvP in Terraria.
Why did I get an ad for penguin games
I literately got an ad for a terraria server
not me getting a penguin games ad watching this
Not really related to servers but chainsaws, drills, and items like the arkhalis or terragrim hit faster in pvp if you spam click. Holding hits slower and if I had to guess it's because they give static i-frames meaning things they hit gain immunity from that specific projectile but not from other projectiles of the same or different types, so spam clicking which creates a new projectile everytime hits faster.
Honestly the only reason I don't play Penguin Games anymore is BECAUSE of the low player count. I had a lot of fun playing CtG, Class Wars and Spleef when the server was super active- I would log in every day and just have the drive to keep playing and getting better and better, because it really is fun to get better at these modes. I would see the results of my efforts in getting more Penguin Points the better I performed (which admittedly don't give great rewards but it's good as a symbol of progression and status at least) and it was honestly addicting. I didn't quit playing because I got naturally bored of the gamemodes or whatever, I WANTED to keep playing, but the player counts got lower and lower until the server wasn't active enough to consistently play my favorite gamemodes every day. And playing so consistently is what made them so addicting. So I kinda just had to quit because what was I gonna do? Spend most of my day either waiting for players to join so I can get to play a few matches with the absolute bare minimum amount of players needed for one to start, which wasn't that fun? My hand was kinda forced.
I would go back to playing these gamemodes as they are now if the server became super active again, but that's not going to happen just because I wish it would. So change is necessary. The server needs to attract an audience. It needs big flashy gamemodes that are great for making youtube videos. Sponsor youtubers to make those videos if necessary. Terraria is more limited than Minecraft but making great gamemodes and server systems is not impossible, it's just harder, and it seems like the devs are demotivated. Unfortunately I cannot just tell them to be motivated. They don't have a great reason to be, tbh. But I think an attempt could be made and perhaps it COULD succeed.
true they need an improovement
My problem with Terraria multiplayer is there's no reason to play multiplayer if you can just bring your singleplayer character into them and just start wrecking everything. I know server side character things exist for servers, but established game rules aren't subverted easily by just making things optional.
probably the biggest thing that should be fixed from Relogic's end is the quite frankly abhorrent net code the game has.
Even with mods to drastically improve how the game tracks entities between multiple clients and stuff, it still tends to not be very stable at the best of times.
it is really bad, i remember trying to play with a friend in the other side of the world and:
-messages took 15 minutes to send
-most of the world didn't load for a long while and i could just fall trough all solid terrain
-he moved a bunch of water and it took like 10 minutes to even start moving on my end
-we enabled pvp and i spent like 4 solid minutes hitting him and health wasn't updating so he was just immortal
@@eltiolavara9 maybe you or him has bad connection
I play with people from europe and I dont get lag as bad as yours
@@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 it's an extreme example but what im saying is that it's bad at dealing with high ping
The login system reminds of OLD Minecraft pocket edition servers lol
I might try out some Terraria servers now
Honestly I’ve never played on servers not that I don’t want to but I find the solo gameplay very satisfying
I didn't know terraria even had minecraft-style servers. It never seemed like the kind of game that would lend itself well to such a thing.
I got a penguin games ad for this video
8:40 iirc xbox, nintendo and playstation have rules against custom external servers in the first place, so this is impossible for console players unless rules change
pinky's revenge...
also yeah they really, really, really should add in a proper server browser, time has not been kind to the whole "paste the IP" type thing they have
For me personally, I've never looked at Terraria as a game where I play on public servers, since that ruins what makes the game fun for me. I will absolutely do a playthrough of the game with friends in a private server, since that means we get to share the experience of exploring the world and getting new items, but a public server where everything is either pre-built or already destroyed takes that away. Yes, you could say the same thing with Minecraft, but that game was built more with a creative focus than an explorative one, with mods being the only way for me to get a kick out of exploring the world and finding loot.
I'm pretty sure I heard Re-Logic has plans for a cross-play update.
Which, I believe, means the Multiplayer menu will get a revamp. In due time.
I do think custom items would give more room for creativity and rewards, unique to each server.
But it is also a double edge sword. As that would inevitably mean: micro-transactions.
Some requested features for the Labor of Love update got denied, simply because of software limitations. Which, I can see how that would be the reason custom items not being a thing just yet.
What I'm trying to say is, there is more things to consider. Not just the lack of features that would be nice to have.
Comparing the player count of two companies that have different marketing goals, unsurprisingly will give different results.
Re-Logic updates the game out of passion, not out of greed.
I don't think this video does a good job answering the question in the title.
If you were to make another video on the topic, I would advice gathering more information. Try more servers, and take into consideration what each dev company is currently spending their resources on.
I've been using the free items server Teeria legends for damn near a decade now, I even used to play the separate survival one, and they were good times.
While it's true servers are currently going downhill, we can hope in future updates that online server play is made more readily available and supported.
i joined this server a year ago, it was thr best server i joined until the owner of the server took a break to serve the military and then he shut it down.
We tried to recreate the entire experience, it just wont hit the same.
yeah, i honestly think that the problem is terraria isnt too... versetile. with minecraft, there's plugins, server mods, its really, just as minecraft is, a sandbox game with infinite possibilities. ngl in this aspect next to minecraft terraria looks kinda doodoo
Great vid, I would love to see a better multiplayer Terraria in the future.
I see your points but personally don't agree, whole a new UI could be good but I don't want ads and visual clutter when joining servers which would be an obvious problem.
Second thing is: server developers making their own (custom) items. Not a good idea for several reasons, when you join in it would have to load in every new item they got (including sprites, new sounds and such which means to download it directly onto your pc). For once it causes delay between actually being able to play and do I really have to explain why downloading random things onto your device from internet isn't a good idea?
Also in-app ads/purchases/unique items could and would lead to microtransactions or scams, that'd even worse than it is.
Besides, as much as I don't want to believe it Terraria will never have as many players as Minecraft does because it's not mainstream or whatever people want even if multiplayer was improved.
So like... we probably should suggest some fixes to relogic ey?
I didn't even know terraria had severs untill today
I think another "problem" is just how different Minecraft and Terraria Singleplayer is. Without any mods or custom maps, Terraria wins gameplay wise, Minecraft in the end, is just building or redstone, there is barely any adventure or engaging aspects, so many end up playing servers with minigames to pass time. For sure the clunkyness of Servers on Terraria doesn't help them.
bro has no idea
@@Wariowa345 You seem as well, if that is the response you have instead of saying what I missed.
Terraria Minecraft and Roblox, all 3 sandbox games but they all mark points of a spectrum, on one end we have Terraria, a sandbox that is meant to be played as is. in the middle we have Minecraft, a sandbox that can be played without modification, but is easily mailable for multiplayer purposes. Then we have roblox, on its own it's you, a baseplate and a spawn point literally nothing without player development.
... roblox isnt a sandbox though?
@@caustictoad "A sandbox game is a video game with a gameplay element that provides players a great degree of creativity to interact with, usually without any predetermined goal, or alternatively with a goal that the players set for themselves."
You know Roblox doesn't make the vast majority of these games themselves right? Nor does roblox on it's own without the player made content have a goal...
@@SolesteamRoblox is a game platform, not a sandbox game
@@privat12131
game¹
noun
1. a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
2. a complete episode or period of play, ending in a definite result.
"a baseball game"
I'd say it qualifies as both depending on context and how you use it.
Roblox isn't really sandbox you gotta code and stuff while minecraft and terraria everything is there instantly
t-dark gaming is just the 1984 of terraria pvp
cant wait to hop no terrapixel skysquare
man, this vid didn't give me much nostalgia for Terraria servers cuz cmon.. who tf plays em. but having to make an account inside of a server was a core memory of mine while playing minecraft. Used to play on romanian servers A LOT as a kid and all of them would have you make a username and passwork for logging in, which I obviously forgot every time, pretty sure most of em still use this system
gonna guess the number 1 right away: obscurity
Today i learned that Terraria servers even exist. I honestly thought the game was long dead by now, as i never thought it was that fun to begin with.
eternia pog
I didnt even know that terraria servers *existed*
is this a hypixel build battle reference?
You can always connect your keyboard and mouse to your phone!
I love gaming on a 6.1" display with no GPU 😂😭
@@ShardonOkSome people actually do… I can’t tell if this comment is satire or real.
Leafos Gaming has been around quite some time and I can only attest 2 things here, DDoS attacks using an advance client that also allows spamming slots and hogging them up to prevent new real players from joining. This is because unfortunately there is not proper authentication system in place for Terraria to assert that it is a human player or a fake login. Secondly, Terraria community base is dying a s a whole due to various communities blackwalling each other over "religious" beliefs. Not to be confused with actual religion, just terraria religion, such as who is the best server, we don't support pirated server that allow pirated copies joining or downloading, and modded servers that shouldn't exist because owners have done questionable things without proof.
All in all, its just other games are becoming more interesting than others...Palworld, for example. Terraria just can't keep up with cooking new ideas or mechanics anymore, and Re-Logic is probably sitting on prepping for either Terraria 2 sequel, or a whole new game as a whole. In any case, love to see Leafos reach top 10 again, but we got knocked down to 40, so I can say its just time to throw down the towel soon.
But for those looking for survival as close to vanilla as possible, Leafos does it and I still wish all others servers the best of luck in their feature presentation. www.leafosgaming.com/
Even Teeria Legends (I worked with them) made its name for what it did before Pedguin snatched up its player bases, and that is all thinks to the shady inner workings of Pryaxis and owner who blackmailed users and owners of servers for false wrong doings. Only those in power have power now, and they have coders who can do more than the average joe. Corruption exists everywhere sadly, and only way is to let it die, which is where we are now.
CTG was so fun back in the days
I just don't need anything like that servers at all. I played on the server once, and it was Dragon Ball Terraria.
solution:
better API
ways to do an UI in the screen
economic incentive
server's strategy to concentrate the player base in a single rotative minigame
I think the biggest issue really just is lack of server support in the game, minecraft has huge server support and a lot of focus on it, Terraria is not designed at all for large servers in mind and I think that is a shame and something they should show some love to. Could be more than enough to make it popular again
I think the real reason why Terraria servers are dead is because by itself, terraria is actually fun, meanwhile Minecraft needs a bunch of mods or friends to be fun which leads to lots of people going onto servers
What kind of reasoning is this? Like terraria being fun causes their servers to be dead? And are you suggesting that minecraft by itself is not fun? Maybe not for you if you have tried minecraft and didn't enjoy it, but there are tons of unmodded minecraft multiplayer servers that are fun, which shows that many people have fun without the addition of mobs. Both games are fun without mods and also fun with mods, but I don't think mods really affect how fun servers are. There are tons of minecraft servers that are still popular and remain fun without mods such as hypixel and hoplite.
For me Minecraft ist more Like an engine than an anctual Game. With Minecraft as a Base in combination with servers and mods you have endless possiblitys to play the game.
Imagine if terraria allowed for servers to create their own items and allowed you to use them on other worlds. That would never happen because it would be super difficult and require a rewrite of a lot of code, but maybe Terraria 2.
I just play terraria with my friends mostly, I don't really like playing on servers
Bro, I didn’t even know there was servers you could play on
If Terraria had a better menu DLC and the money I pay for it pays for the development of the better menu I am fine. I paid probably 25$ for all my copies of Terraria because I got every single one on sale. I’ll pay more to support the team. Hey if you want a whole echo system in the sky floating islands and to make the world much taller? It will cost 7.99$ per person that wants it to keep the team in home, heat and FOOD.