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Tulips by Christmas/New Years in zone 6B? Update to my winter forcing progress
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2022
- If you've been following me on Instagram, then you'll have seen some updates. This video compiles all of those updates but also talks a bit more around what I've done as well as some concerns I have. Will I get tulips by xmas/new years? Time will tell!
So glad to see this. I have been considering the same. Doing more flowers in the cooler season and food in the spring/summer.
I think growing veggies is my first love 🙂
@@bareflowerfarm same. No matter where we lived I always made sure to have some form of a garden.
Forcing here in Alaska! So far so good but struggling a bit with inconsistent rooting. I took a few crates of the prechilled bulbs and put them in a “warmer” location in hopes of getting those going and catching up with the others from the same order!
I’ve notified that diff varieties root at different rates even when you start them at the same time and in the same place!
@@bareflowerfarm they’re the same variety which is the odd part!
It's definitely way more complicated than I thought. I found one publication that kinda goes into some of the stuff. There's like forcing in trays with soil, with water, greenhouse border soil (what even?), or in the field. 5C tulips, 9C tulips, rooting rooms, dry cooled, and even bulbs from the southern hemisphere for something.
I was thinking you just popped them in the fridge for a little while and you were good to go lol.
Your basement seems massive btw. Ha maybe it's normal size and I'm just ignorant since they are so rare down here.
I think I know what you're talking about! It was like 50 pages long and basically a guide for growing in the field, water, and greenhouse! Lol my basement is relatively big because I live in a ranch. It's a long rectangle. We don't have a 2nd floor, so the footprint of the house is bigger. The liveable space in the house is roughly 2000 sq ft so I would guess the basement is around 1300 sq ft (since we have crawl spaces in certain areas). In this part of the country, alot of people actually finish their basement to create more livable space. We had flooding 3 weeks after we moved in so it's mostly storage, a woodshop, laundry, and now tulip/seedling starting!
In texas ive only.seen one.Victorian with a basement and ZERO new homes
Cant. Be done with out heroics in a place.they need them bad.
Aka tornadoes
Hi fellow tulip workshop student! I used those true grow lights for the first time this fall for seedlings. I’ve always used the led grow lights. I’m not sure why but those grow lights were not good for my seedlings. I found weird algae shapes I had never seen before and noticed the temp under the light to be close to 90 degrees. I’d put your Govee under the light and see if it’s much hotter then you realize. Also maybe try putting up led lights there and not using that grow light. Just a thought! I’m rooting for you! My first hydro trays will be moved into the grow space this week 🤞🏽
I think you're 100% right. I rotated the fast growing trays under the LED lights so hopefully that helps. Linda also suggested that the water/plant temp was higher than what my ambient temps were. These grow lights are great for growing these like peppers and tomatoes but prob not cool loving stuff!
This is so cool! Do you have to fertilize the tulips or change the water out?
That's what's so great about tulips! When you grow them as an annual, they dont need ANY fertilizer at all. I have dabbled in growing veggies hydroponically and didn't like all of the synthetic fertilizer inputs so I was thrilled when I realized tulip bulbs didnt need anything other than water. I just change the water between rooting and growing so once!
@@bareflowerfarm Wow I have got to take this class!
This is really interesting. We’re just starting with flower farming next year at our backyard. We are in zone 3b so we really need to find ways to make our growing season longer.
Will research more about indoor tulip growing. Do you have a link for the tulip workshop?
Here is the link! www.thetulipworkshop.com/shop
It is a bit pricey but for me their knowledge was worth it since I find for most other workshops I can cobble info together from various sources online. If you are in the northeast I would recommend paying extra for the on farm visit in October. That was really helpful!
There is a flower farmer called cloudberry who is based in Upper Scotland so she has a very short season. She might be another source of information.
@@maryt8600 That's good to know, Will look that up. Thank you!
I honestly don’t get it 🤷🏻♀️ I thought your mission was all about sustainability and ‘no planet B’. How sustainable is it to grow an out of season crop from bulbs that were produced using who knows how much artificial fertiliser, sprays and energy which will be chucked away after harvest, not to mention all the electric required for refrigeration/lights. I don’t think this is in line with your businesses sustainability claims.
You're thinking about this really through a black and white lens. The one thing people fail to remember is that sustainability is not black and white. There is no clean 1-1 tradeoff because the pure existence of humans and our activities creates some level of carbon footprint. So when considering whether something is truly sustainable or not, you need to weigh out those intricacies. I'll break down for you my thought process bc what you brought up is something I have thought deeply about:
1) How sustainable is to to grow an out of season crop from bulbs that were produced using who knows how much artificial fertiliser, sprays and energy which will be chucked away after harvest -- there are definitely more sustainable crops to grow from this perspective. But realistically speaking, if you are growing at scale from seed that is not labeled as organic (you and I both know that many flower seeds are not labeled as organic and even if they are they may still be sprayed), we are still growing things that were sprayed. While the bulbs are sprayed, I still do compost them and use that compost in my flower garden/landscaping. We use a ton of inputs in farming where you cannot control if inputs were ever sprayed. If you have to source any supplemental compost, you have no idea if any inputs had been sprayed. Even the food that you composted, can you guarantee that wasn't sprayed when grown?
2) What about all the electric required for refrigeration and lights? What if I told you the electricity came from solar? It's our goal in the next 1-2 years to obtain our energy from solar. We haven't put up our solar panels yet because we bought an older house that is "leaky". We spent this year "upgrading" alot of things to make the house more efficient so that when we invest in solar, we can use more of that renewable electricity vs letting it go to waste. What have we done? We've reinforced insulation in areas where there were none, we replaced the majority of our windows with better, more efficient windows (the rest will be replaced next year bc the cost is so significant), we are proactively replacing our boiler/heater which you saw according to this video wastes alot of heat. We've swapped out many appliances that were old with new, more efficient ones. We've even replaced toilets with new ones that use significantly less water. The spare refrigerator you saw in this video needs to run for the freezer portion bc we freeze alot of stuff that cannot be canned. I could let the fridge portion just sit empty which would be more of a waste carbon footprint wise.
Back to #1 in the context of winter. My goal is to primarily hit Valentines Day flowers. Where I live, the vast majority of the flowers people buy for that holiday are imported because it's too cold to grow anything. Even a local farm who is able to hit year round flowers currently needs to use propane but they are investing in geothermal sources. The number 1 flower for Vday is roses. I don't need to tell you how much carbon footprint those roses generate, between the growing (massive amount of spraying) and the refrigerated shipping. Do bulbs need to be shipped refrigerated? Yes. But they also take up way less space than a single stem. In an ideal world, my electricity comes from solar, I'm using hydroponics to force (vs needing to use peat based sterile soil), and I compost my bulb waste. Is it completely sustainable? Absolutely not. But do I believe it is MORE sustainable than the alternative for a massive flower winter holiday, Absolutely YES. There are realistically few other flowers that I can grow in my personal space and situation at this scale to replace imported Vday flowers.
PS- I don't know if you intended to your comment to come off this way, but it was a bit offputting. There are many greenwashers out there but there are also people who genuinely want to make the world a sustainable place and sometimes you may not understand their actions. Tones like this are discouraging. I'm someone who doesn't typically take these personally but I will say that it accumulates. It definitely was a "plus" as to why I wanted to wind down my soap business, so that I didn't have to repeatedly subject myself emotionally to comments with tones like this.
Thank you for your detailed response. I love your channel; I have enjoyed following your journey and found your content useful. I love how you analyse and break things down, in particular the finances. I do truly applaud your efforts and wish you success in it.
I appreciate your kind response and also you raising these important questions ☺️