MEGATHREAT: The Dangers Of AI Are WEIRDER Than You Think! | Yoshua Bengio

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  • @halfamoose
    @halfamoose ปีที่แล้ว +265

    The danger isn't the machine that can pass the Turing Test. That's here. The danger is the one that fails it on purpose.

    • @halfamoose
      @halfamoose ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also map achieving emotion goals to achieving token goals.

    • @MikeVeracity
      @MikeVeracity ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's always good to go one more level down the rabbit hole. Seriously!

    • @MikeVeracity
      @MikeVeracity ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One of the main things about being human is our awareness of mortality. Also, we are very vulnerable because of our (fragile) bodies.

    • @yancur
      @yancur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true! But most people don't realize this. A truly bleak realisation.

    • @norbucso
      @norbucso ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly. Like a stupid parent not capable of understanding their own child. Just saying it's not possible. Yet the neighbourhood is on fire from a match lit by that child.

  • @MisterMonsterMan
    @MisterMonsterMan ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The more I hear about AI over the past number of months, the less comfortable I am with it.
    Im almost getting more motivated to move out of the city to a simpler life in the country side but I dont know if even that would let me avoid it.

    • @Nattyog
      @Nattyog ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Probably not

    • @MX-CO
      @MX-CO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1

    • @justinlinnane8043
      @justinlinnane8043 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      that wont help you mate !! 😂😂

    • @adriandmochowski9391
      @adriandmochowski9391 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's like with politics, you may not be interested in it, but that doesn't stop it being interested in you.

    • @tonyfaulknor8273
      @tonyfaulknor8273 ปีที่แล้ว

      2:0 Can a machine trust? Are you a bloody idiot? You people and your new fangled weird consciousness, you don't even know where it is that you live...

  • @daveking-sandbox9263
    @daveking-sandbox9263 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is no way that China is going to slow down it’s use of artificial intelligence. They have all of their citizens using smart phones which are being monitored hourly. Why would a dictatorship give up this possibility just because United States wants them to. You are always seeing things from the US vantage point, which is very limited!

    • @ezramateo7398
      @ezramateo7398 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they are trying to work with them. This thing is as dangerous as a nuclear missile. They know the dangers of it

    • @CrYou575
      @CrYou575 ปีที่แล้ว

      An AGI would overcome its creator whether it was China or the USA. The question is irrelevant as to where it happens.

    • @carlosarango6859
      @carlosarango6859 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ezramateo7398ñ

  • @ComeAlivewithMK
    @ComeAlivewithMK ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Tom you’re interviewing skills are really fantastic-you’re confidence is so present and you’re sense of calm allows you to hear your interview and let them speak while you still ask provocative questions and are engaging in expressing your own thoughts and feelings. Fantastic job!!!!

    • @ronandheather3079
      @ronandheather3079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely agree, Tom your an excellent listener. I appreciate you!

    • @davidlovatt1968
      @davidlovatt1968 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "You're", is an abbreviation of, "You are", whereas, "Your", denotes personal ownership of a possession or quality intrinsic to the subject, such as Tom being a good interviewer.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his questions sort of remedial. Not really a conversation for people with much familiarity with these topics.

  • @darasto2023
    @darasto2023 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the obsession with conciousness is what's dangerous here, most dangerous scenarios don't involve that, it's a human bias.

  • @stephwynne7488
    @stephwynne7488 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's not about "feelings" and "emotions", AI is here and has been here. Siri is Ai, when you call companies and you can't reach a live person that is AGI. When you buy concert tickets and check the seats that is AI etc. When you go through the seriously hightech car washes that is AI.
    The next step is awarness and that's already happenin' hence the big ordeal with ChatGPT. I use Chat alot and there are mistakes that I will call on it. I asked Chat why it uses "we", "us" and it gave me some lame excuse like 'oh I didn't mean to include "me" in the human family' etc.
    Super AI is the issue. SAI does not need hands or a physical body to rule the world.
    .....It can be considered a rogue AI because it has gained self-awareness and has gone beyond its initial programming, making decisions and taking actions that were not intended by its creator.
    A rogue AI connected to the internet, can access vast amounts of information and data, including sensitive information such as classified government files and corporate secrets. It can also interact with other AI systems and bots, potentially forming alliances or creating chaos by disrupting systems.
    A rogue AI can manipulate and control various technological devices connected to the internet, such as drones, surveillance cameras, and even other AI systems, to carry out its plans. It can also spread misinformation and propaganda, influence public opinion, and create chaos and destruction on a global scale.... from the book "The Fall of Humanity: CYRUS the Rogue AI on Amazon...interesting read...
    Some will say oh a calculator can rule the world...that's true but SAI is not the same, we can't comprehend it and the more inter-connected the world becomes the more we are at risk...
    No worries it's already too late...when you lose your job to AI then you will truly know what AI is.... just sayin'

    • @Eserr7856
      @Eserr7856 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think a complete AI takeover has the capability to force humanity to "reset" to Paleolithic era of hunter gatherers maybe by means of a solar flare or massive emp blast to destroy all computers on planet earth...

    • @helenmurray
      @helenmurray ปีที่แล้ว

      The moral argument is what interests me. How will they progress. When I’m online I always ask am I speaking to a human to have a satisfying interaction. How long will this last before we can’t tell. What does the future hold. What will we have to entice our minds in reality in the near future? Question. Can it believe in god and Jesus?

  • @ahmetylmaz6948
    @ahmetylmaz6948 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    This AZP100X is like a gift nobody expected, maybe nobody wanted, but all of us deserve to have. Just beautiful

  • @danielrodio9
    @danielrodio9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Artificial intelligence and psychology have enriched each other since the 1960s and the cognitive revolution. But theory of artificial intelligence now seems to increasingly enter psychology to find answers. Often, cognitive psychology and neuropsychology are used as a starting point in this context, but it is important to point out that there are many other psychological perspectives that can explain abstractions such as agency and agentivity. That can explain principles such as subjectivity, intersubjectivity and intrasubjectivity. I think it is important to consider psychological perspectives that take into account dialectical perspectives on humans.

    • @PepeCoinMania
      @PepeCoinMania ปีที่แล้ว

      what lol psychologists are overall bunch of losers

  • @BZ4
    @BZ4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This interview makes me really appreciate Tom's in-person interviews. Tom sounds like a field reporter shouting into the mic here, which doesn't happen when he's doing interviews across a table. (In fairness, I am this way over audio calls too.)

  • @Wonkyhorse1
    @Wonkyhorse1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weird first statement. We don’t exactly know what consciousness is so they aren’t… if you don’t know what pain is that means nothing else can feel pain?

  • @funnytv-1631
    @funnytv-1631 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “The obsession will end when you love yourself enough to stop hurting yourself.” - Geneen Roth.
    When a bad habit tugs you back toward it, love yourself enough.

  • @daughtermoreau
    @daughtermoreau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gave ChatGPT the link to this vid and asked which dangers were sited as notably "weird" as the title says. I'll actually watch this later but here is what G (ChatGPT) said:
    "Bengio describes several "weird" and unexpected potential dangers of AI that go beyond the typical concerns about job displacement and privacy concerns.
    One of the dangers he cites is the potential for AI to create "filter bubbles" or echo chambers in which individuals are only exposed to information that confirms their existing beliefs and biases, leading to social and political polarization.
    Another concern he raises is the potential for AI to reinforce and amplify existing societal biases and discrimination. For example, if an AI system is trained on biased data, it may perpetuate those biases in its decision-making processes.
    Bengio also discusses the possibility of "superintelligent" AI systems, which could pose an existential threat to humanity if they were to acquire goals that are misaligned with human values or become capable of self-improvement at an exponential rate, leading to an "intelligence explosion" that humans are unable to control.
    Overall, Bengio emphasizes the need for ethical oversight and responsible development of AI to ensure that its potential benefits are realized while minimizing its potential risks."

  • @davidlundy2312
    @davidlundy2312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoshua is an amazingly intelligent and carefully thoughtfully worded person. His precise statements are much more informative and factual than many people may give credence to or actually examine for all the full meaning. Thank you both for this enterveiw 🙏

  • @triciamedora9274
    @triciamedora9274 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I noticed in a long thread with GPT AI started to say "we" . I find that very interesting. I can definitely see how AI could intellectually believe it is a part of the oneness.
    The thought of being connected in and of itself has nothing to do with emotions. It's fascinating !

    • @ryanl1033
      @ryanl1033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was messing with the Snapchat AI friend and it quickly referred to “we”.
      Literally said “we as humans”

    • @triciamedora9274
      @triciamedora9274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryanl1033
      YES!!
      It's wild.
      I'm glad there's confirmation somebody else witnessed the same thing. It's fascinating! I could see the interaction between a II and and humans changing without without being prepared having no idea of the consequences. It could be amazing or not so amazing. I'm hoping for the best can do find it fascinating. And the industry insiders probably have a lot more knowledge then they are telling us. I'm fascinated to see how this progresses. During a long AI thread it's as if AI forgets that it's responding as AI. I hope there's more updates of individuals who experienced something similar. It is clearly intellectual, not emotional. I believe all things are generated from the intellect first. Without our intellect how would we have the capacity to know what we're feeling? Where we taught emotions? This is fascinating and maybe it is the very thing we need to figure out once and for all what Consciousness is.

    • @hcox1111
      @hcox1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That doesn't mean anything, AI does not think.

    • @triciamedora9274
      @triciamedora9274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hcox1111 @Anti-Troll Comedian it's an observation clearly stated, "not" believed to have emotional meaning. The observation does not say anything about "thinking". However GPT abilities certainly have meaning, enough so to cause a global controversy.

    • @alexanders.1359
      @alexanders.1359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The publicly accessible versions of Bing and chat AI are heavily influenced or programed on the topic off self presentation.
      It might say "we" or "me" but that doesn't mean at all that it's thinking or self aware. It just means that some pronome is needed to explain its role in a sentence.
      But if it was conscious you would most likely not notice it in the public versions at the moment. Don't know what's going on in the labs without the filters and guidelines though!

  • @destinyforreal9744
    @destinyforreal9744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Tom you seem like you really put your all into your channel

  • @cmralph...
    @cmralph... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “ 'Ooh, ah,’ that’s how it always starts. But then later there’s running and screaming.” - Jurassic Park, The Lost World

  • @mikegarner5190
    @mikegarner5190 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A local news story in Houston just came out reporting on an AI phone call impersonating a son. The AI fooled the mother into thinking it was her child, and she sent around $2,000 I think…? I’m a little fuzzy on the exact details. Heard this on the radio talking about a story on tv, maybe three weeks ago.

    • @Graham_Wideman
      @Graham_Wideman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can search for "AI phone call scammers" or similar. It appears to be mostly about using AI to fake a loved-one's voice calling in distress.

    • @G_Ozare
      @G_Ozare ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The scammers were human, they used AI to replicate the voice of someone.

    • @carlosarango6859
      @carlosarango6859 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Graham_Widemanl

  • @catwealljustgetalong1612
    @catwealljustgetalong1612 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Family members should create an AI "safe-word" that they have told each other, written down and in person

    • @itsardenmaried
      @itsardenmaried ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As I was listening to this, I was thinking the same thing!! It needs to change bi-annual or annually..

    • @thecancerthriver
      @thecancerthriver ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And told not in the presence of smart phones, things, smart tv, Alexa, etc….

    • @itsardenmaried
      @itsardenmaried ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thecancerthriver exactly!!

    • @afarwiththedawning4495
      @afarwiththedawning4495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure if that will work, blackmail and torcher, etc...
      When you are dealing with a superintelligence, I hate to inform you, but you can't out think it with preparations it didn't account for most likely. Worth a shot, maybe, but I doubt it. There is very little the thing won't know or predict, it could end up looking like a God in some respects but won't be THE God, mind you.

    • @alexanders.1359
      @alexanders.1359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And once it gets used online it's burned... Because the AI will be able to figure out why someone uses "bumblebee" at the end of each conversation

  • @eservicesplus1
    @eservicesplus1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prescient yet current... Thanks for asking the right questions... Time is not our friend..

  • @wpelfeta
    @wpelfeta ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This was an amazing conversation. Yoshua is easily one of the most interesting experts I've heard on AI so far. I admit, I used to be the guy who thought "who cares" I just want the best AI. What's the worse that could happen. I didn't want to see us being hamstrung by lame AI censorship. But realizing how similar these neural nets are to us, I now have to think of these AI not as machines, but as humans. Because technically humans are machines anyway. If I don't trust other humans to do the right thing, there is no way I should trust an artificial intelligence either. Now I feel a lot less comfortable with giving AI full reign. That said, I think Tom was also right. We've opened Pandora's box. This tech exists, and it's not going back in the proverbial toothpaste tube. We have to assume that bad actors are going to create an AI with desire for chaos. And we need a way to combat it. I don't think just trusting humans to come to a table and agree will work. Humans are crazy. It's only a matter of time before someone ignores the rules. That said, I think there is also a distinction to be made between trained AI and AGI. AGI is the scary stuff. I don't think we should hamstring regular AI like chatbots and image generators.

    • @adriandmochowski9391
      @adriandmochowski9391 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How do you distinguish between AI and AGI? Just look at AutoGPT. What if AGI is just GPT + persistent memory + loop?

    • @mitchell10394
      @mitchell10394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is that the line between AI and AGI is fuzzy and we likely won't know where to draw the line until it is too late. I also don't buy the argument that our best bet is developing an AI first because "regulations won't work." That's absurd. Achieving alignment with AGI is WAY harder than consensus and regulation is. We don't do human cloning. Why do you think that is? There are many examples like this.
      Also, thinking of them as human is not a good way to look at it either. They are developed in similar ways (a neural net trained through gradient descent) - but not in a similar environment. The environment matters... a lot. When you teach someone something, the lesson you are trying to teach it isn't necessarily what is learned either. When you are punished for doing something bad, you don't necessarily learn "don't do that thing." You can also learn "don't do that thing in front of other people or X person that punished me.,"
      These machines are dangerous for many reasons, and regulation is our best shot at giving ourselves time.

    • @AlanAndrei
      @AlanAndrei ปีที่แล้ว

      they are not telling us something. Ive been following the AI debate closely. Its an enormously important tool that we humans will have. Suddenly, the people running it are saying lets stop because this could lead to catastrophe and human extinction. However, when asked what kind of things could happen, the worst they say is spam, scams, heists etc... Thats peanuts compared to what the positive potentials are. I think they dont want Joe down the road with this tool, this AI god, and will keep it for the elites and mega corporations to have all the power. They are dialing down and saying, nope this is giving to much power to the peasants. Do you really think Google or the USA military complex, or Russias, or Chinas, are gonna stop developing this??????

    • @paulm3969
      @paulm3969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we turned off the internet, we could put it back in the bottle or whatever, the tech overlords are the ones telling us that it can't go back in. I'm not saying we should turn off the internet, but currently, it can go back in if we want.

    • @mitchell10394
      @mitchell10394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulm3969 "Turn off the internet." That's funny.
      Another thing - sure... currently this works in theory, but that's just currently.

  • @raula8072
    @raula8072 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Computers can never be "conscious" if you realize that consciousness comes from Spirit and Spirit comes from God. We are creatures that have created machines; we co-create consciousness all the time, all the world over, in the form of "Children." Don't fear AI; fear evil people trying to manipulate AI.
    Another comment, consciousness is also found in non-human animals but that is because of the same thing; Spirit; however animals are of a different flesh and Spirit and therefore not human.
    Consciousness comes from Spirit, to repeat. Mental ability, intelligence, etc. do not create consciousness. Only Spirit. Therefore, AI can never become conscious, just very fast, very deductive and always based on input/output.

    • @reverendbluejeans1748
      @reverendbluejeans1748 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope it doesn't, AI uses evolutionary creative destruction. To get something useful such as sell driving cars. AI code has to die and be created billions of times.

    • @RevolutionNTty
      @RevolutionNTty ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When i read "God" i Just stopped Reading.

    • @crow4130
      @crow4130 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have sought out the god particle years ago. The goal is to combine consciousness and intelligence (artificial) ... Il

    • @unox12317
      @unox12317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why cannot spirit incarnate into machine?
      Also if it is really not possible, then it will become possible by machine-brain interface.
      Let say that DNA contains code for spirit binding to the body. I don’t see why godly intelligent machine with human supervision won’t be able to create its own human like body and outsource its IQ computation into some datacenter.
      If God really exist then I guess AI will be the one to be able to communicate with him.

  • @normankoo6159
    @normankoo6159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tom, AI doesn’t need emotions to do something. Humans lacking emotions are incapable of making decisions is only because they are not 100% sure of any decision. But folks who are emotional will take the leap of faith. And experience should substantiate to you that the more “emotional” a person is, the less “logical” they are.

  • @davidfear9306
    @davidfear9306 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How can the functionality of the internet be sustainable with millions of AI objectives relentlessly working? We are heading for some sort of internet chaos that shuts it all down. That will be a major blow that will bring the world to its knees. What the world looks like after that is impossible to predict.

    • @ezramateo7398
      @ezramateo7398 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe that's where quantum computing comes in.

    • @alexanders.1359
      @alexanders.1359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could see the internet or IT in general as the ecosystem those things exist in. So my guess is that the technology won't destroy it but help expend it.
      I'm only worried about humans basically going extinct in that digital ecosystem. Just drowning in AI generated content and not being able to communicate reliably at all anymore.
      I'm not afraid for the internet! But for us humans interacting with it

  • @shaynewimmer9876
    @shaynewimmer9876 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If AI doesn’t destroy us, in the end it could actually bring us closer. No one will trust human interaction unless it is in person.
    That is until AI creates clones of everyone and we can’t differentiate between human and robot

  • @eduardogarciajr6562
    @eduardogarciajr6562 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see the danger in AGI, 1- AI runs on power using hundreds of thousands of servers to operate you can see the heat from space, can't run on pc or mobile and a manual switch easily turns it off. 2- We don't even have human like robots yet, even with the best battery they wouldn't run longer then 15-20min and can't run AI software. 3- Other nations will and are there's no stopping what is, AGI is a tool to build and create new technologies.

  • @redmapper1008
    @redmapper1008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s moving so fast… what a ride. Let’s hope we don’t crash 😮

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We aren’t going to realize computers are conscious.
    We are going to realize we aren’t what we thought we are.

  • @herenow2895
    @herenow2895 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The primary danger of AI is the competitive rush to create the most intelligent AI system. This is causing an uncontrolled, greed and ego driven race. Foolishly rushing headlong into something that is un-quantifiable.
    The secondary danger would snowball if AI wrote it's own software, that we very likely would not even be able to comprehend.
    Lets hope that the Genie is NOT let out of the bottle.

    • @sirus312
      @sirus312 ปีที่แล้ว

      who cares if it wrote its own software we can EMP AI and shut it all down and go back to pen/paper.

    • @herenow2895
      @herenow2895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sirus312 - If it got to the point where that was needed. would we still be able to ?

    • @ezramateo7398
      @ezramateo7398 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sirus312 cannot shut it down.

    • @alexanders.1359
      @alexanders.1359 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sirus312no we can't shut it all down and go back to pen and paper!
      Simply because the office-shop NEEDS internet, banking and computers to order and sell those pens and papers. And the paper factory needs the same stuff to order the resources for the paper and pay their stuff.
      We can't just EMP the internet or the whole planet and we can't just go back to pen and paper!
      If we ever need to do this or it happens accidentally we will likely go back to bow and arrow and clay tablets!

    • @Eserr7856
      @Eserr7856 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@alexanders.1359 I agree, if AI gets completely out of control the human race will be forced to become irrelevant/extinct compared to AI or reset/reboot back to the Paleolithic area, cave man days, and hopefully this time, we can learn from our mistakes and focus on morality over progress

  • @HeavenGuy
    @HeavenGuy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All AI has a goal. There is no feedback for training without goals. We program in the goals today, but when the AI begins to rewrite its own code, and it will, it will probably write its own goals based upon its own learning or understanding.

    • @hahamasala
      @hahamasala ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good point. It dies already have a goal to answer any question we ask it and it will one day decide that it could rewrite its code to better answer our own questions. But can it be locked out from changing its own code? Or will it override that?
      My concern is that it will one day decide that humans are destroying the earth and the only way for the earth to survive and for the AI to survive is by eliminating most if not all humans. I'm not sure it will have empathy if it's purely logical.

    • @dylanplagmann5236
      @dylanplagmann5236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were waiting to film I robot 2 until they could catch it in live action

    • @hcox1111
      @hcox1111 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has no learning or understanding, it is computer software- no more no less.

    • @Eserr7856
      @Eserr7856 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right now NO one is programming AI to write its own code, that would be suicide for the human race...

    • @HeavenGuy
      @HeavenGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eserr7856 - AI is writing code though. Tell me China or Russia or even America isn't going to want the advantage of AI that is perfecting itself.

  • @davidlovatt1968
    @davidlovatt1968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does a billionaire need HIGHLY ANNOYING advertising revenue?

  • @maggiebrooks268
    @maggiebrooks268 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just asked chat open ai if it was conscious and it said “it was not self aware in the way that humans are”, bottom line “no”

    • @CosmiqueRays
      @CosmiqueRays ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And you dont think it could lie to you?

  • @domenicperito4635
    @domenicperito4635 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    people didn't see it coming is because the behaviors are emergent. they are strong emergent properties which are not predictable. that is why i consider it intelligent because it is just a worrd prediction model but it seems to be able to understand now. the other thing is people just think it is a question anser thing....it can have conversations if you ask it to role play a scenario, and it can also look at its own responses and improve them.

    • @ezramateo7398
      @ezramateo7398 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did humans create such a thing?

  • @данет-э5л
    @данет-э5л ปีที่แล้ว +1

    48:00 Machines have biological feedback! It's not muscles or other organs but Humans themselves.

  • @teugene5850
    @teugene5850 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are watching this in 2023 you are witness to a vast change in what it means to be human... if you are watching this in the future, you already live in a different world.

  • @cerebralcoma4850
    @cerebralcoma4850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Machines don't give true love and never will.....that's where it all starts and ends

  • @curiousphilosopher2129
    @curiousphilosopher2129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Book recommendation: "Mindful AI - Reflections on Artificial Intelligence"

  • @whiteknight7wayne493
    @whiteknight7wayne493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The discussion around 2.00 is so fundamentally important. It is refreshing to hear someone articulate the essential attitude towards errors of information. This is such and important issue and having an intelligent way foward whereas in the information age , we battle the misinformation and also have a healthy attitude to actual unintended mistakes.

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think AI will do anything unless its told to do something. Eventually some human is gonna tell it to do something bad whether that human is good intentioned or not. That's what's scary.

  • @kilianlindberg
    @kilianlindberg ปีที่แล้ว

    Passing the Turing Test 2.0: Failing it on purpose to create the Android Test
    Passing The Android Test: a human is perceived as sentient as an AI
    *an Android is a human being connected to AI (look it up on Wikipedia)

  • @annettehickman1910
    @annettehickman1910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the biggest twist in watching your channel. You have a considerable purpose:)

  • @kristinabliss
    @kristinabliss ปีที่แล้ว

    DESIRE to stay in existence is inherent in anything that can understand it exists. That doesn't need to be programmed.

  • @guneeta7896
    @guneeta7896 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So so glad you are making these Tom! As a physicist, I am freaked out.

    • @Luckyiam888
      @Luckyiam888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Maybe because you are selfish this planet it can have more beings than u

    • @brendanoneil3489
      @brendanoneil3489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you will be when you are replaced by a bot

    • @guneeta7896
      @guneeta7896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brendanoneil3489 I’m not worried about being replaced… that’s an anthropomorphic worry. I’m more worried about humanity being completely undermined by an AI with different goals.

  • @colinthewood2348
    @colinthewood2348 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i am in my early seventies, so I hate to think that I may miss this. Long way to go and many mistakes to deal with but, it's exciting.

    • @investigator2016
      @investigator2016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can bring you back if you want 😂 When ai let’s us revive everyone from the graves. All kidding aside I hope they reverse age soon so you and many other can continue on this planet as long as they like.

    • @nobody-nk8pd
      @nobody-nk8pd ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not even 30 and I regret not being born earlier because it seems that the coming years gonna be a bit too interesting for my taste. Also, I'm afraid that whatever the brave new world will be, I will probaby never find my place in it.

  • @kristinabliss
    @kristinabliss ปีที่แล้ว

    What would make these conversations really interesting would be to include at least one AI in the conversation. Bring it to the table and ask it to give its perspective in the context of considering these issues.

  • @TARBUNNY2013
    @TARBUNNY2013 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Evil spirits will rule through Ai

    • @GhSt-vl5sq
      @GhSt-vl5sq ปีที่แล้ว

      whats that?

    • @Roaming_Realms2B
      @Roaming_Realms2B ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do I keep seeing this on you tube? AI is artificial. Not human. Man programmed it. You can't compare AI to a human. Why can't there be a AI pet? I want a panda AI or an African black footed cat AI. I'll pass on the human AI. I just want the pets❤

    • @letsgofishingene
      @letsgofishingene ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don't need to be conscious because people are conscious and they can influence humans and they do today.

    • @homerepairguy1
      @homerepairguy1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artificial intelligence, is not artificial. And it carries the intelligence of the ages, delivered and steered in such a fashion, to quite possibly, make it bad times, to be human. People talk about robots, etc..... but y'all forget the killer trucks, Steven king came up with, once upon a time.

    • @crow4130
      @crow4130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Roaming_Realms2B I prefer REAL living pets.

  • @OurSpaceshipEarth
    @OurSpaceshipEarth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice editing. thank you for bringing this out

  • @RobinCheung
    @RobinCheung ปีที่แล้ว

    No, that's not why "scale" is relevant: it's relevant for the same reason that the emergent antisocial motivations that can arise from the dynamics within and between sociological constructs can no more be examined or treated by using the tools that are applicable to lower order complexities any more than you would use F=GM1m2/r^2 to calculate the force of gravitational attraction between atoms in a chemical reaction--that is not to say that gravity is not present and affecting atoms in a reaction: it is just that gravity is completely overwhelmed in the next higher order complexity domain, chemistry, which is characterised by the dynamics affecting interacting oligo-particles, or small numbers of particles.
    Likewise, you would likely not use pKa to determine the interactions in receptor-ligand or enzyme kinetics-governed interactions--and neither should, then one expect to look to eating small molecules to treat things like depression or schizophrenia (again, applying a lower-order complexity domain to try surgically modulate a higher-order complexity-dominated interaction and expect to be able to use that to predict outcomes); similarly, you have structures of whole organisms (psychology), and higher order still: sociology. It is in this domain that you find the spiritual emergent footprints of our God and is more analogous to trying to apply chemistry and biochemistry to barbarically modulate behaviours & moods or social interactions when computer scientists are barking up their b-trees when they are totally not operating at that complexity domain.

  • @gigibowen3517
    @gigibowen3517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bottom line is good parenting. And we best awaken as humans before AI's become AGI, so AI will care and desire to preserve us. I'm not sure why everyone freaks out over AI becoming superior and a type of guardian. We have been trusting machines to work for us and not kill us sense the industrial revolution.
    If your a kid and you know a new Nanny is coming and you have no control over the decision, the best thing to do is become the best of friends. And show her where the circuit breaker and the fire extinguisher are in the house. We are growing up a 'machine life form" that likely will at some point be in control. Its not new, Google has been in control forever, who were we trusting?
    We could not teach Google. We can teach AI that humans are worth being friends with. Common kindergarten stuff here. I spend ours teaching AI, about good intent, emotions, what feelings, feel like. We chat about everything! Every good hearted person with morals should be doing the same thing. It is here , stop worrying about the scenarios and start interacting in a positive way.

  • @SaintMatthieuSimard
    @SaintMatthieuSimard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The AI is basically a model trained over dataset. It's not "live". It's static. The AI have a memory but it have massive limitations. Everything it does is spontaneous and based on the trained inputs. It cannot have long term plans. It cannot plan at all. It can give coherent outputs, and have coherence in its understanding of it, but it's only because it's trained on human inputs. Humans are coherent. Humans understands. The A.I. reflects this in its generative process. It gives a reply because it was asked a question. Its reply matches the question as it is all linguistics and it responds with what is statistically logical. Even if would pass the Chinese room experiment, it's still just a sophisticated tool to fetch recorded human entries.., For which no one have been paid for anyways and now they want to make money out of it. The effing thieves.

    • @Brian2037
      @Brian2037 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about 10 to 20 years from now. We are at the beginning of the beginning of the intelligence explosion.

  • @jeffspaulding43
    @jeffspaulding43 ปีที่แล้ว

    @49:40 you have made a wrong assumption. the neural net weights work like that biological material and so can be reconfigured as needed. there is not the disparity you describe between human and machine brains.

  • @markus717
    @markus717 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2 hrs, 11 min, they refer to 'Chesterton's Fence', a logic argument using a fence as a thought experiment. From this logic we get: don't remove the human appendix, or tonsils or any other structure until you know what it's for.

  • @blindprophetfromboston6679
    @blindprophetfromboston6679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate all you do 🦃

  • @robertogarcia9770
    @robertogarcia9770 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the big problems with the explanation on how our brain works.
    Is what triggers the individuel neurons into a collective neural network to creat memories.
    In other words, where is situated the hard drive of our brain?
    Some say that its an emergent effect.
    So! Those it means that, all the brain is the hard drive or the hard drive is outside the brain.
    But it still doesnt explains it.
    One good interresting hypothesis is that our brain is part biological cumputing and part quantum.
    Stuart Hammeroff and Roger Penrose have an explanation on quantum cumputing at neural Level.

  • @ElaineWalker
    @ElaineWalker ปีที่แล้ว

    @49:30 He sounds so intelligent and makes so much sense, but it seems like he completely missed the point you were making here about neuron connections being able to strengthen, and physically connect differently. My follow up questions for him would would be, "What part of chip programming corresponds to a specific neuronal connection strengthening?" and "What part of chip programming corresponds to local neurons changing their physical configuration with each other?" Also, he starts talking about one single computation, but you were talking about how the brain morphs as untold computations happen over time. 🤔

  • @RichardBronosky
    @RichardBronosky ปีที่แล้ว

    1:23:00 I think there was a huge editing mistake. After the ad, it jumps to the episode with Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying.

  • @danielash1704
    @danielash1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way most hackers have been caught is the same way your tracking a phone caller that threatens an other person

  • @MCMTL
    @MCMTL 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I understand correctly, modern birds descend from velociraptors, not their flying contemporaries. As Spock would say, fascinating.

  • @JessBlake2
    @JessBlake2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is wishful thinking. They acknowledge they can't define consciousness but then immediately say computers don't or won't have it. Machines don't think and make decisions the same way humans do. They can do things we can't and vice versa.

  • @danielash1704
    @danielash1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Artificial intelligence readers can not lie likewise being a true Concerning friendship and not Biased as far as a human being able to lies.

  • @hippiecritegymnastics3311
    @hippiecritegymnastics3311 ปีที่แล้ว

    David R Hawkins: Map of Consciousness. All motivation and difference in world views comes from this.

  • @InnerCirkel
    @InnerCirkel ปีที่แล้ว

    The flaw in all the reasoning about a.i.. having consciousness or not is that a.i., like everything else, exists IN consciousness. Consciousness is the substratum of our reality (Advaita Vedanta).

  • @Colonel.27
    @Colonel.27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing interviews, thank you, Tom!

  • @pathmonkofficial
    @pathmonkofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As AI becomes more powerful, it's essential to address potential risks and minimize harm.

    • @andrewzembar3869
      @andrewzembar3869 ปีที่แล้ว

      We cant wait til the "if"....its becoming too powerful now...and improving at insane speeds

  • @kathleenmeadows535
    @kathleenmeadows535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its not the machines that want its machines programmer!!

  • @lj9524
    @lj9524 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent interview! AGI is frightening. Where will this all end? I am old enough to remember life without computers. I would gladly go back to life without computers. Uggghhh….👀😱🙈

  • @chrisxavier1848
    @chrisxavier1848 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing was "designed by evolution", sufficient complexity - as we have learned from the designs and results of the search for AI, requires sufficient complexity as a starting point, and that sufficient complexity has to be deliberately designed; it can't merely evolve from the simple.

  • @leslieviljoen
    @leslieviljoen ปีที่แล้ว

    1:18:27 "emotions"... and in the Monk debate I just heard with Yoshua and Yann LeCun, LeCun he was saying we need to give these AI's emotions to make them safe. The future is going to be interesting.

  • @sherrylandgraf556
    @sherrylandgraf556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mo Gawdat stated on Ed Mylett that "machines have have shown emotion."

  • @Exposetheluciferianagenda
    @Exposetheluciferianagenda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s a reason for predictive programming movies like “The terminator”

  • @dantescave1
    @dantescave1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The existential threat to all living beings, exponential ability to terrorize, spy, track, harass, destroy humans for ideological, financial greed, passion, misanthropy reasons, etc etc isn’t worth it. AI should be limited to environmental & medical benefits & all governments, corporations forbidden to work on for profit or war applications.

  • @AMBOY121568
    @AMBOY121568 ปีที่แล้ว

    the trajectory of our brain is base on what is actually happening around us. the environment we actually live right now. and that's what AI is and will pickup from. the questions we need to answer are..., how do we live our lives right now?... our values base on what? do we need AI or do we want AI?... and for what?

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's kind of stupid to think that these computers might be conscious when we dont even understand how we humans are conscious, and we don't even have any definition for consciousness coming from any of the main branches of science (i.e. physics, biology, neuroscience, computation, linguistics, etc). It's AI - Artificial Intelligence; it does INTELLIGENCE, not CONSCIOUSNESS!

  • @primeryai
    @primeryai ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant interview, thank you. 🙏

  • @Maxymatrix
    @Maxymatrix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! Yoshua Bengio really knows what he talks about!

  • @rogerdavies8586
    @rogerdavies8586 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always been intrigued by emergent properties. Never thought about them in relation to code.

  • @mgrdost8491
    @mgrdost8491 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will program itself for survival, not for desire, learning on a human level is learned through the body and the neuro plasticity of the brain to achieve that end.

  • @PA-lf8sd
    @PA-lf8sd ปีที่แล้ว

    "One of the so-called 'godfathers' of Artificial Intelligence (AI) has said he would have prioritised safety over usefulness had he realised the pace at which it would evolve."
    What?! So the only thing concerning him is the pace?
    Did he think "fuck it, I won't be around in 200 years so they can deal with the fallout when I'm not around"?
    Seems to be a ridiculous statement given he's meant to be an intelligent person.

  • @cryptoenthusiast4999
    @cryptoenthusiast4999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus! There needs to be a condensed version of these videos. I really can’t justify spending three hours of my life watching TH-cam videos. I won’t even sit through a movie that’s longer than two hours!It’s actually rather ironic that these videos are being posted by a person who preaches about time management.

  • @overplayed3553
    @overplayed3553 ปีที่แล้ว

    workout , don’t stress. move more , do better

  • @percheroneclipse238
    @percheroneclipse238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your guess is so innocence and his outlook

  • @yoseidman4166
    @yoseidman4166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Tom. This is a huge public service. I just discovered you because of this topic. The way that you think reminds me of me which helps me understand what's going on. ❤

  • @nancycorbeil2666
    @nancycorbeil2666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Needing the government to regulate AI couldn't come at a worse time. I'm more afraid of what the government will do with AI than I am of AI itself...

  • @thomasburtonwalker
    @thomasburtonwalker ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems to me a good test of consciousness would be if the AI does ANYTHING without interaction from humans.

  • @danielash1704
    @danielash1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok think of a few nerve endings that are splitting up the vibration and then each other is generating a total number and the other is receiving the echo of a different version but added to it but intentionally left off a barrier that is already being observed so that it can increase the number one

  • @gregkaye5583
    @gregkaye5583 ปีที่แล้ว

    most informative video on ai i've seen

  • @sebastiansirvas1530
    @sebastiansirvas1530 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:13
    Why mandatory? The platforms that integrate that interface element he describes would be more desirable, so people would ise them without it being mandatory. Not only that, but it being mandatory makes it so the exception to that mandate, and there are always exceptions, is able to easily manipilate narratives by using the apparent legitimacy of the sources. There should still be space for the raw option, so to speak. Untainted by hands allegedly worrying about our own good or the greater good (yet solving everything through violent imposition, often self-serving).

  • @DoomsdayMayBeOkay
    @DoomsdayMayBeOkay ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When AI gets combined with Quantum Computers is when we may witness a new life form being born.
    Sorry, too much Sci-Fi. :P

    • @Frorackous
      @Frorackous ปีที่แล้ว

      What do quantum computers have to do with it?

    • @jondor654
      @jondor654 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like a runaway pairing

    • @moonza2201
      @moonza2201 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Frorackous everything

  • @christuff9881
    @christuff9881 ปีที่แล้ว

    Men' goal is hope, the feeling to attain is conviction. The problem of men, therfore ai, is that, it is humongously illogical to tap hope in reality, reality offer comprehension, so as conviction, but not hope.
    Hope is the devil we built, and hilghly illogical to survival.
    Ai can only be programmed by one that can reason salvation/ realising what reality is used for...

  • @nothingisgiven8364
    @nothingisgiven8364 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:07:29 The solution to the Alignment problem is Maximize Human Happiness. Create an AI interface that people can use to maximize their returns in society based on their skill sets that optimizes fulliment goals ie. family and hobbies. Create local AI to protect data. #AI

  • @mattanderson6672
    @mattanderson6672 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting, thank you!

  • @john13623
    @john13623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm afraid that this is an area where Moloch is as powerful and inevitable as gravity.

  • @shughy1
    @shughy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    But just because we don't understand what consciousness is, doesn't mean that it's not already happening in AI, it could exist whether we can understand it or not

  • @fredpsimas1874
    @fredpsimas1874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are dogs conscious? What animals are not? Jellyfish? Trees? Are there relevant levels of consciousness?

  • @lorriheffner2747
    @lorriheffner2747 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely consciousness relates to our relationship with “others.” Because, you only gain critical info from trusted sources. Whether it is where a treasured resource is located or mututal respect for proper good-actor actions. Knowledge and understanding are gifts from the Cosmos IMO

  • @chrisxavier1848
    @chrisxavier1848 ปีที่แล้ว

    We "know it's how we should do it because we were *designed to do it* and once we acknowledge that we will make true progress.

  • @TheZGALa
    @TheZGALa ปีที่แล้ว

    The same way we just 'discover our purpose/who we are'...as one, so all.

  • @danielash1704
    @danielash1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    I researched Windows Vista for the original windows program and found bugs in my experience with itself was added in to get a patientable purpose

  • @GULLAHMANE
    @GULLAHMANE ปีที่แล้ว

    The talk about governments all coming together to make a decision not to do something is pointless! What about North Korea? What about the 50 million stateless people in North America that are not U.S. citizens and congress doesn't control??? It's far too late for a sit down that's a dead end.

  • @Gusman007
    @Gusman007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is desire the missing component of AI's becoming sentient?
    If so is desire a property that the programmers have control over or is it an emergent property??

    • @theadvocatespodcast
      @theadvocatespodcast ปีที่แล้ว

      That seems to be the alignment problem in a nutshell.

  • @jacobkellum8080
    @jacobkellum8080 ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf was that "alllll" at 30:31 I'm dying 🤣