The Shockingly Easy Way To Attach Plastic Binding To A Guitar Body
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- The binding videos seem to generate a lot of interest. Binding really classes up a guitar body but is also something that discourages a lot of builders. Hell, Gibson charges and extra thousand bucks for it!
Okay, here is the tricky part… how do you actually glue this stuff to the guitar?
This is the easiest technique we have found… it’s so easy it might surprise you
In some of our latest videos I showed y’all how to cut the little slot for binding and fitting said binding to the body. I wasn’t going to do another video about attaching the binding, but I got so many comments wishing I would that I decided to deep dive into the subject.
Stop reading and start watching, it’s easy and fun!
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I love your channel always great information. I’ve been building for years I like watching you guys. Thank you.
after viewing this I am now confident to attempt this procedure . Thanks and looking forward to see what else you have up your sleeve
Glad you liked it my friend, you can do it
Thanks for the nice tutorial, Matt.
Cool tip Matt, thank you :) You guys are a great inspiration for us newbies.
Happy to help David
Solid content, as always, Matt. I'll definitely be applying this technique (and the rest of the binding series) in the near future. Thanks!
Thanks my friend, I always hope that y'all get something out of these videos. Thanks for watching.
You’ve got the most inspiring channel, because of you I want to get into this craft
Thanks for watching my friend, glad to hear you are digging the videos. I hope you enjoy building guitars make sure to send pictures when you get going
Very informative (all 3 parts) thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it Dan
This video has changed my life for the better. I used stew macs pipetes
You make it look easy!👍😎🎸🎶
it's the speed up feature in the editing department
@@TexasToastGuitars awesome!☺
Slick. Looks like something I might be able to do without screwing it up too bad.
Thanks again Matt!
You can do it, and it really classes up a guitar
Here is "The" video I was looking for! Thanks very much. Very instructive. This is the perfect exemple of the work needed to achieve a beautiful guitar. This is why a nice looking guitar worth more than $2000 (and more).
Btw, do you have a video where you explain how much does it cost to just get the wood you need for a particular project, added to the time it takes and the value of this time?
Thanks again.
Thanks
Way cool. Thanks Matt.
That's jammy! Is that you guys?
Glad you liked it!
I used acetone for a kit I 'built' and it was very forgiving bc you can use a ton and it flashes off wo leaving any discoloration. The slurry was really easy to use to fill gaps too.
We all but stopped using the slurry... too damn messy.
I know, picky but .... the acetone doesn't really melt the binding but rather dissolves it. Love your videos.
I'm always up for some antics
Especially if they are semantics
I like the acetone trick a lot. Did my last guitar that way. But I've used the stew mac binding glue, not fun. I've used CA exactly the way you use acetone and it works great but the acetone is awesome and cheap.
The only down side is my skin gets dry
Great video! The old Stew Mac binding glue (SIgMent?) was just OK, not great. The more recent "Bind-All" is the most incredible binding glue I've ever come across - it works on everything I've tried. You've obviously proven acetone works with Stew Mac ABS, but I'd recommend a scrap test before using acetone on other plastics.
I'm going to attempt my first go at binding using the ABS plastic stuff. I always thought you had to use the special binding cement from StewMac to attach the ABS bindings. But I'll give this a go and see how well it works. Thanks!
Be sure and do some test bits first
@@TexasToastGuitars I ordered a bunch of different bindings (cream, ivory, black, white) and they came the other day. Cut some 1" pieces from each and did some tests on different pieces of scrap wood. Pine, maple, oak, mahogany, walnut and teak. Using your method here to attach bindings works like a charm. Had no issues with getting any of to adhere to these different woods. Thanks a bunch for the great tip!!!! It goes without saying that you won me over and I've subscribed to your channel. Happy Holidays!!!!!
Nice work. I hope you've got some good ventilation in the shop for all that acetone!
Rob Marmaduke
If you u use a ventilation u loose the benefit of beeing stoned 😆
Acetone doesn't really off gas that much
Glad to hear that. I go back to the models and "airplane" glue days. No ventilation? Instant headache. The glue sniffing thing never made sense to me.
I always used Duco cement... learned it from someone who worked at Martin... have not had problems.
Sounds good to me
The narrower tape has its benefit here as the Acetone has less distance to travel between strips 👍
Maybe... but that acetone travels fast pretty much anywhere it wants to go.
Just finished testing this, as the glue I had ordered wasn't delivered, and it is strong, I wanted to see how it would react to heat so I took it up to around 90° F and it was even stronger. Thank you.
Great to hear it worked out for you Don
Matt dont forget too soak your acitone rags with water when your done, they can spontaneously combust in a barrel if not diluted with water. Thanks Matt
I like to use paper towels.
You said you give the tape time to "set". How long do you give it?
Would this work on a guitar neck as well?
That's the best way to do it,at least it works me too
Good to hear from you amigo
Is it ok to use the acetone on a Les Paul type guitar?
New builds, acetone is the go to…. Otherwise if you are dealing with a finish that is alcohol based (shellac) then acetone will likely dissolve before causing any issues, but lacquer will melt, it will certainly soften poly urethane and other water based ones will coagulate on you……or at least I’ve had the privilege of learning this on really early repairs……CA or cement is good for those.
I appreciate your comment and I'm not attempting to move the goal post... Now, you know, that I would NEVER encourage anyone to do this to a finished guitar. We do not do any repair work and I'm only talking about new builds.
@@TexasToastGuitars I figured that is what you meant Matt 😉…… I do both repairs and new builds, but just in case hopefully anyone else that is cutting their teeth with binding can learn without making the same mistakes I made in my early times of my own ignorance of different chemical reactions (and consequences).
HI Matt, just a question...would you stain a bare body first then apply the binding ..or binding first then stain the wood?? thanks
I just removed binding from a guitar I built in the 90's. It was installed with superglue and lasted 25 year no problem. Came right off when I wanted it to.
Cool man
Question, though, Sir. Which types of binding can you attach with acetone? My understanding is that it'll be ABS. What about CAB?
That 'Rockler' clamp ... make up a spray stencil of your TT logo and spray that over the clamp. If you've seen the 'DiResta' channel he does that on any equipment that is not a sponsored tool which is clever. Ask the kids about the missing tubing, they might have made some wrist rockets with that stuff...
I know right, I'm pretty sure none of the neighborhood squirrels are safe
Great tip, I just tried it. How long do I need to keep the binding taped?
Hi Michael, it kinds depends we leave necks for a few hours but they are straight. We usually leave bodies for several hours or overnight. Mostly because we don't want to deal with it hahaha. It is pretty quick
CA works the same way (tape first, then wick) and doesn't soften the binding like acetone...which then requires some time to re-harden and can shrink it back. It does make more of a mess, but you're going to be scraping and sanding anyway.
You got to live how you want to live
Just pointing it out, since you mentioned never having used it. Many ways to bind a cat. ;o)
@@AZCobraman We use CA glue when we use binding that isn't soluble in acetone
Thanks for sharing. I'm fed up with using the messy binding glue :-(
I'll try this method next although I'm wondering is there any chance acetone might discolor woods that have strong natural colors?
Hi Steve,
I don't know, best give it a try on a test piece.
Steve Acetone dries out wood, so you might be able to oil it back to original shade. And sand with 600-800 when totally dry. Just an idea.
Plus minus , how much binding is needed for the strat style guitars, in meters ?
How would you reproduce checkerboard binding?
I would just buy the binding...
winfieldvintage.com/parts/binding.html
hi there! does this method work with StewMac ABS plastic Binding?
That is what I use
You ever do the pour in binding like EBMM does?
No, I have not
Looks like quite a bit of acetone on the body. I’m going to be staining with a water based stain so will this have an effect on the finish or does the acetone simply evaporate?
Best to do a test patch first Steve
Will that acetone affect the glue under the 0.5mm maple veneer top or not? Nice idea though
Not in my experience, however, I recommend you test it out for yourself on your own project and see if you like it before jumping in headfirst.
Matt, I have a question. Where can I get a syringe, like the one you are using for the acetone? Is it called a syringe? Thanks, Russell.
Hi Russell, there is actually a link in the description for this very item.
Hi, how long does it take to dry? Thanks
Not as long as you might think I usually let it sit overnight but have done it in a hour or so
Depends on kind of plastic. Watched videos twice and tried twice..finally soaked a piece in acetone, not much happened in an hour.
Sorry if I'm dense, but the acetone will adhere the binding to the wood? That works? I never would have guessed. Am I missing something? Thanks for the video.
It works so well I didn't believe it either
My same question...
Would this technique work well with multi-ply binding?
Thanks
Yes and no.
if you are using that 3 ply binding from AllParts the acetone won't touch it
@@TexasToastGuitars thanks
Does acetone work with pearloid? meaning does it affect the appearance.
Best to test it out on your piece before going full speed
Is it possible to put plastic binding on the area with contour lik the arm rest part? Thank you
It sure is Karl, you need to have a way to route that but that is easy
@@TexasToastGuitars I really want to build my own guitar bindings look cool but i think i can't do it but after i watch your video i found out how easy it is. Thank you.
How do I make a dead head sander for making necks?
Hi Chris, I don't think I can answer that with the level of detail required here in the comment section. We have plans to do a video series about building a dead head sander this winter.
Matt, I like this idea. I'd even be willing to purchase detailed plans if you put them up on Etsy or something like that.
Hey! I see an Explorer body on the bench back there! I thought you didn't like pointy guitars??
And you topped 5k subs - congrats!
We love pointy guitars... if people are willing to pay for them.
This is now my favourite way of doing binding. Please be aware though that it doesn’t work with PVC binding, only celluloid & ABS.
Very true, we use Bind-All for that stuff or even super glue in a pinch
@@TexasToastGuitars I tried super glue (which is what Ben Crowe uses) when I realised that acetone wouldn’t work. Made a horrible mess & eded up with binding tape glued to my fingers! Have taken it all off again now & ordered some ABS binding instead.
Paul Reed Smith will be at my local guitar shop today in Tucson. I'll let you all know how it goes. I was going to bring something for an autograph, but realized that would be lame.
I hear Paul is a really cool dude, I have never met him
@@TexasToastGuitars he was pretty cool. I didn't stay for the signing session. Apparently he has family here in Tucson. His guitars are pretty slick, but have an arrogance to them that I can't stand.
Thank's bro, useful for me, but not very different like some guitar companies do it.
Tape snipppp....tape snipppp... tape snipppp...
Just use 1/3 more tapes and u will not need to clamp.
Hmmmm....
How about continuing some of the never finished series...duck and run...
Greets from over the ocean
Which ones do you want to see more of?
Hey man! I'm planning on putting celluloid pearl binding (ooooh fancy) on my Les Paul, will acetone work on it? I know it's ideal for plastic bindings but I haven't found info regarding celluloid bindings. Cheers!
Acetone has worked for me on ABS and celluloid binding. Give it a test piece to make sure but I think you are good to go
Does the acetone stain the wood if there’s no finish on it?
no it evaporates
I have not noticed that
Hi Matt,
Great technique. I have a question for you. I am about to try binding for the first time but thought I would test the Acetone on a scrap piece of wood first using a small piece of the binding I purchased. However as I applied the Acetone the binding cracked in several places about quarter inch apart on a very shallow bend. What would be the reason for this happening? Thank you!
Hi William, if you are trying to bend the binding without heat of some kind it can break. It could also depend on the type of binding you have. Where did it come from?
Good thing you tested it out first
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Thank you, Matt! I live in the UK and bought it from a Company called Smallwonder-music but it doesn’t state what plastic it is. What plastic should I be looking for?
I have had sucsess with both ABS plastic and celluloid bindings
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Thanks Matt for your time and info. I will take your advice and purchase some ABS. Much appreciated!
The king of superglue Ben uses acetone
We use whatever works
I wish I never saw this video, it has set me back an entire day at minimum. The acetone wicks up anywhere you tape and melts the glue into the wood. I just went to stain my guitar and literally everywhere I had tape is not taking stain properly, patches everywhere. I’m using standard green frog tape.
Just glue and tape as you go, don’t risk this method. I am yet to sand it back down so I don’t know yet if the stain job will yet be salvageable, either way, taking a two horn carve top of flame maple all the way back down to 120 is no quick job.
Sorry it didn't work for you
Hi, I was wondering why using acetone did not work for Raymond Wilson? Was this the wood, the acetone or the glue on the tape?
Please somebody explain. Thanks!!!
@@karajokee2102 Hard to say... I have never had an issue and I have lots of guitars on my webpage, videos on TH-cam as well as numerous social media pictures as evidence. I'm not saying that he is telling stories but I also wont say that my good luck was a fluke
@@karajokee2102 I do believe Texas toast use stew Mac binding tape. OP used painter's tape. Not certain if that's why or not.
I thought eveyone shot up acetone LOL...
With plastic syringes hahaha
c`mon Matt fess up ... the surgical tubing is at home cuz Mrs. Toast ties you up with it..
Me?
Can't watch till end 😅...
Live how you want to live
Haven't watched it yet, but so help me.....If this is a video about duct tape..... ;)
It's all duct tape these days Eric
You here that kids? He’s NOT shooting up acetone. Take note. He’s not huffing whipping cream, eating tide pods or snorting cinnamon either. Just Say no to drugs and weird household shit to get high.
And stay out of your moms pot stash and your dads beer. That’s just not cool. Lol
Yeah we are certainly not doing that
There’s always more than one way to skin a cat. And who doesn’t like a skinned cat.
Who indeed
set the fukcing camera down and open the apertrure FFS.. good lord, the Blair Binding Project, do you ever watch your videos after you render them and see of they are viewable? lord
Ignorant question: Why does binding exist anyway and why not just paint it?
Looks cool and covers up stuff you want to cover, that's really it