Little by little I'm watching all yer vids Matt, and it cracks me up seeing some of the older ones. Also, cool seeing you build out of your garage. How far you've come...
hey Matt! ive been doing this for 10 years! and it was an old trick when. i learned it! i never really cared for it as it it seems to acetone and binding material specific. ive found it to work with abs binding or boltaron. works fine with the celluliod nitrate bindings though. back to super glue for me :p
As a plant for the International Luthiers Binding Brotherhood all I can say is you in some big shit now Willis! Papers will be served. Oh and nice segue into capillary/wicking action, seems like deja vu all over again ;-)
@@TexasToastGuitars cool where can i see them. i have been making things forever, and just discovered the superglue masking tape trick only about 5 years ago. now i am questioning how many other simple but very usefull tricks have i missed out on?
Hi Ya Matt, You have terrific videos. They are a big help to me as I repair mostly Violin family instruments. Have you had experiences with this method with Spruce? Thanks again for all the sharing of tips, technics, and methods. Have a Good Day! Blue Max Stringed Instrument Repair
Me to... since 2016 hahaha Thanks for watching Lou, this little trick is a game changer and it's funny to think how much time I wasted with other methods.
Yeah I love the acetone method it's much cleaner than binding glue witch seems to be melted binding anyway. I don't like the new stewmac binding tape because it's orange like carrots and I hate veggies it's meat only four me. I do prefer the old brown binding tape though because it's thicker so it won't tear when using it to clamp the binding and I tend to use it for a lot of other tasks around the shop whereas I would only use the new stuff for binding only. Great video as always man your channel kicks ass.
So I've got this 1982 Takamene 12 string that I'm restoring and the binding is the white plastic stuff! It has cracked in several places and is coming off the body at some points! Do you think this would work in trying to put the pieces back together or no!? I really don't want to pull all the binding and replace it if I could just repair the spots where it's cracking!
And this trick don't affect the finish? I love this and also going to try this because working with glue and having 10 cats don't work! I get cat hair everywhere, and my fingers look like cousin it's.
what happens if you already painted the guitar and made the rout channel for the binding...won't the acetone wreck the paint...? maybe use a small amount of tight bond III or stew mac binding glue in the syringe instead..?
I picked up 2 les Paul studios, took the necks and feet boards off. 1 I routed for a the custom style les Paul multi ply binding and the other I routed it like a les Paul standard. The custom I used stu Mac binding glue and tape and the other I used your capillary method as described. I will never use the stu Mac glue again. Unless you are crazy cautious you will have a huge mess and create way more work for yourself cleaning the mess off your guitar, tools, fingers, cloths, workbench and whatever else you touch. The binding glue also, sort of eats/melts the binding more seemingly than acetone. This made a few areas really gummy and turn out messy. The acetone method I had just about zero issues with any of that. To the point that I’m shocked any pro would use it. The glue also takes longer to set up. Both guitars have been abused and both are holding up just great though. Bottom line, if you want a mess, use the glue and if not use the acetone.
StewMac seems to have changed the formulation on their binding glue. The most recent tube I got (about a year and a half or so ago) clogged up the pores on the wood something awful and would not sand or scrape clean. Ended up changing how I finished that guitar. Never had that problem before. I've since sworn off the Stewmac glue. I tried CA on my last build and while it worked ok, I kept gluing myself to the instrument! :D Next build coming up I'll try straight-up acetone, either your syringe-and-wicking trick, or just brushing the stuff into the channel before taping the binding on.
Just binded my first guitar using this method. How can I hide the seem though? Acetone an binding goop? Wondering if you could use that method in small repairs too?
I really like this technique and I have had some success with it. However,, I'll occasionally get bubbles or pits appearing in the binding using this process. Do you have any insight on to why this happens? Thanks!
@@TexasToastGuitars Thanks for your reply.! Yeah, I think I may be over zealous with the acetone. It may be liquifying much more of the binding than is needed and when it solidifies again, bubbles appear. I'm going to try using a dab or two and see what happens. BTW, big fan of your channel. It's been a real help keeping me sane through this.
Binding to binding is not a good glue test. Binding to wood is what you need to test. I've tested acetone & the StewMac Binding glue on mahogany, maple, & pine scraps. They seem about equal in holding strength. If anyone out there has a better glue method please make it known.
Easy. Lone Star Guitars was already taken. As an expatriated Texan I wanted something that sounded like home. It had to be easy to remember, kind of quirky and most importantly, not my last name. I mean, what the hell is a Flaherty?
Hi Disco58, Yes, there is such a thing as wood binding and I have used it a few times. Here is a link to some pretty neat stuff...www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Binding_and_Trim/Wood_Binding_and_Purfling/Natural_Wood_Bindings.html
@@TexasToastGuitars - Works great with ABS plastic, celluloid and some others....but I've had problems with some other kind of plastic, not sure what it was. It might have been from Allparts. I've always brushed it on but I'm going to try the syringe method on my current mahogany Tele build. Thanks!
Am I the only one who thinks the super glue and masking tape (trick) sucks? Specially if you are gluing a template to a center line, if you don't get it right the first time you are screwed and the glue always goes through the tape. I love 3m double sided tape from stewmac it works perfect every time, never leaves residue like carpet tape and if you remove it carefully from open grained woods it won't tear any of the fibers up. To each his own I guess, actually I prefer to screw templates down when I can and some day when I grow up I'll have a neat vacuum system.
@@TexasToastGuitars there are solvent resistant syringes made from polypropene, like 7 bucks.. but acetone will melt/dissolve the plunger ends which are rubber. glass syringes were traditionally used in chemistry for such
Little by little I'm watching all yer vids Matt, and it cracks me up seeing some of the older ones. Also, cool seeing you build out of your garage. How far you've come...
I struglle with binding on my first build, and man, that`s help so much!
Thanks :)
Just seeing this...I think. Brilliant man, just brilliant. Secret squirrel...lol. Thats my generation bro. Love it.
Like I said, the really brilliant guy was not me :)
Matt whispering... I’ve been rocked to my core
I was that day old when I learned this trick
Awesome, necessity is the mother of invention!
Yes indeed!
Yeah I learned it from Fletcher too haha.
That dude is smart
Awesome and hilarious!
Thanks for watching J.T.
Like your stuff. I make Ukulele’s. Used acetone on my first try. It held great. Going to try it on my next build.
It won't let you down amigo
hey Matt! ive been doing this for 10 years! and it was an old trick when. i learned it! i never really cared for it as it it seems to acetone and binding material specific. ive found it to work with abs binding or boltaron. works fine with the celluliod nitrate bindings though. back to super glue for me :p
Thanks for watching Paul, seems like most things that are old eventually become new again.
Texas Toast Guitars yes but if it doesn't melt the newer binding than your forced back to super glue. bummer.
As a plant for the International Luthiers Binding Brotherhood all I can say is you in some big shit now Willis! Papers will be served. Oh and nice segue into capillary/wicking action, seems like deja vu all over again ;-)
cool. what other kick ass tricks do you have?
So many
@@TexasToastGuitars cool where can i see them. i have been making things forever, and just discovered the superglue masking tape trick only about 5 years ago. now i am questioning how many other simple but very usefull tricks have i missed out on?
@@eross21 Well, I have over 1000 videos many of them contain some tips and tricks
@@TexasToastGuitars well looks like i better get started then. thanks
Hi Ya Matt,
You have terrific videos. They are a big help to me as I repair mostly Violin family instruments. Have you had experiences with this method with Spruce? Thanks again for all the sharing of tips, technics, and methods. Have a Good Day! Blue Max Stringed Instrument Repair
I have done this with a spruce top on a acoustic. Worked well for me but, as always, do a little test to be sure
Been doing it this way for years
Me to... since 2016 hahaha
Thanks for watching Lou, this little trick is a game changer and it's funny to think how much time I wasted with other methods.
Yeah I love the acetone method it's much cleaner than binding glue witch seems to be melted binding anyway. I don't like the new stewmac binding tape because it's orange like carrots and I hate veggies it's meat only four me. I do prefer the old brown binding tape though because it's thicker so it won't tear when using it to clamp the binding and I tend to use it for a lot of other tasks around the shop whereas I would only use the new stuff for binding only. Great video as always man your channel kicks ass.
Thanks as always for watching.
So I've got this 1982 Takamene 12 string that I'm restoring and the binding is the white plastic stuff! It has cracked in several places and is coming off the body at some points! Do you think this would work in trying to put the pieces back together or no!? I really don't want to pull all the binding and replace it if I could just repair the spots where it's cracking!
Where did you buy the syringes?
And this trick don't affect the finish? I love this and also going to try this because working with glue and having 10 cats don't work! I get cat hair everywhere, and my fingers look like cousin it's.
Please do not use this on a finished guitar.
The acetone will have a negative impact on the finish.
We only spray paint after the binding
what happens if you already painted the guitar and made the rout channel for the binding...won't the acetone wreck the paint...? maybe use a small amount of tight bond III or stew mac binding glue in the syringe instead..?
DO NOT do this with a painted guitar
I picked up 2 les Paul studios, took the necks and feet boards off. 1 I routed for a the custom style les Paul multi ply binding and the other I routed it like a les Paul standard. The custom I used stu Mac binding glue and tape and the other I used your capillary method as described. I will never use the stu Mac glue again. Unless you are crazy cautious you will have a huge mess and create way more work for yourself cleaning the mess off your guitar, tools, fingers, cloths, workbench and whatever else you touch. The binding glue also, sort of eats/melts the binding more seemingly than acetone. This made a few areas really gummy and turn out messy. The acetone method I had just about zero issues with any of that. To the point that I’m shocked any pro would use it. The glue also takes longer to set up. Both guitars have been abused and both are holding up just great though. Bottom line, if you want a mess, use the glue and if not use the acetone.
Thanks man
Sometimes we still use the glue but the acetone is really clean
StewMac seems to have changed the formulation on their binding glue. The most recent tube I got (about a year and a half or so ago) clogged up the pores on the wood something awful and would not sand or scrape clean. Ended up changing how I finished that guitar. Never had that problem before. I've since sworn off the Stewmac glue. I tried CA on my last build and while it worked ok, I kept gluing myself to the instrument! :D Next build coming up I'll try straight-up acetone, either your syringe-and-wicking trick, or just brushing the stuff into the channel before taping the binding on.
Just binded my first guitar using this method. How can I hide the seem though? Acetone an binding goop? Wondering if you could use that method in small repairs too?
It's hard to do with white or cream. I try to not have any seems
@@TexasToastGuitars I’m double binding a tele so I’ve put the seem at the back of the neck, doesn’t look too bad but there is tiny gap
learned that from a German luthier-book
Sounds like a good book
I really like this technique and I have had some success with it. However,, I'll occasionally get bubbles or pits appearing in the binding using this process. Do you have any insight on to why this happens? Thanks!
Interesting, I don't have an insights for you on why it happens
@@TexasToastGuitars Thanks for your reply.! Yeah, I think I may be over zealous with the acetone. It may be liquifying much more of the binding than is needed and when it solidifies again, bubbles appear. I'm going to try using a dab or two and see what happens. BTW, big fan of your channel. It's been a real help keeping me sane through this.
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Does enough acetone find its way to the bottom of the channel or do you have to apply it on the top and bottom of the binding?
You can see the acetone flow out of the bottom of the channel. I can tell you that it hasn't been an issue. You should do what you think is best.
Binding to binding is not a good glue test. Binding to wood is what you need to test. I've tested acetone & the StewMac Binding glue on mahogany, maple, & pine scraps. They seem about equal in holding strength. If anyone out there has a better glue method please make it known.
you just have to be very carefully on a neck that has been finished. like in repair work that acetone will melt the lacure on a lot of guitars.
Good point.
I do not do any repair work but I have a ton of respect for shops that do.
Daam this was funny! Why are you called Texas Toast guitars.. but based out of Colorado?
Easy. Lone Star Guitars was already taken.
As an expatriated Texan I wanted something that sounded like home. It had to be easy to remember, kind of quirky and most importantly, not my last name. I mean, what the hell is a Flaherty?
@@TexasToastGuitars Galveston here fellow Texan.
@@TexasToastGuitars I'm pretty sure a Flaherty is a specific kind of alcoholic.
I'll see myself out.
Fletcher?
I think so!!
Matt, you should really wear gloves when working with acetone. It absorbs right thru the skin and can attack your liver!
Good safety tip, thanks my friend
I wonder whether people wear gloves when they are using it to remove their nail varnish?
Shhhh!
Theres also a neat little secret for doing Gibson style binding nibs the super easy peasy way, but I ain't tellin and you cant make me.
Imagine my disappointment...
@@TexasToastGuitars sorry man, but little weekend hacks like me gotta have something to live for lol
I like your style @@giznerbal
Is this method of gluing strong enough for fretboard binding? Very cool I’m experimenting tonight
Do you ever use wood binding, or is there such a thing?
Hi Disco58,
Yes, there is such a thing as wood binding and I have used it a few times. Here is a link to some pretty neat stuff...www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Binding_and_Trim/Wood_Binding_and_Purfling/Natural_Wood_Bindings.html
You can also get some great wood bindings at LMII www.lmii.com/
Wick Acetone is my new pro wrestling name. Yuse Wood was my old porn name.
I could have been doing this year's ago if I hadnt slept thru biology...lol
And you thought you would never use high school biology
Acetone is great for this BUT it doesn't work on all plastics. So test first.
You got that right, it won't touch the stuff from AllParts
@@TexasToastGuitars - Works great with ABS plastic, celluloid and some others....but I've had problems with some other kind of plastic, not sure what it was. It might have been from Allparts. I've always brushed it on but I'm going to try the syringe method on my current mahogany Tele build. Thanks!
Was that guy David fletcher? Lol
I think that was the guy.
Yup that's who it is
David Fletcher still has the very best luthier videos on the TH-cams!
Am I the only one who thinks the super glue and masking tape (trick) sucks? Specially if you are gluing a template to a center line, if you don't get it right the first time you are screwed and the glue always goes through the tape. I love 3m double sided tape from stewmac it works perfect every time, never leaves residue like carpet tape and if you remove it carefully from open grained woods it won't tear any of the fibers up. To each his own I guess, actually I prefer to screw templates down when I can and some day when I grow up I'll have a neat vacuum system.
Screws are where it's at
Don't be sniffin' too much of those fumes....
.Nitro lacquer if you use it is bad enough. I'll stay old school on the bindings.
We don't use lacquer
But the syringe is plastic 🤔
I can't explain it either
@@TexasToastGuitars ahhhh.... it’s not up against another surface so the chemical reaction can’t occur.... I think that’s it🤔
@@TexasToastGuitars there are solvent resistant syringes made from polypropene, like 7 bucks.. but acetone will melt/dissolve the plunger ends which are rubber. glass syringes were traditionally used in chemistry for such
Elvis is dead too, pal.