Thanks so much for the excellent instructions. I just used this in my shop but made my own jig for routing instead of spending for the StewMac version. A bearing glide, angle aluminum, and 2040 T-track set be back about $40US. Turned a bumper for the base on the lathe and I reverse mounted the 5x3 inch angle aluminum so there's no need for a spacer to raise the guitar body. Your work is very clear and has helped me with my first guitar build. Thank you!
Packing tape, it's clear to see your work, the adhesive has 10x superior holding strength vs all other tapes, and it's cheap!. It comes in different widths for different areas. You can get it anywhere, hardware store, your favorite shopping store. Excellent videos Mr Fletcher, attention to details and craftsmanship is brilliant!
Using the fine tips to deposit the acetone with the binding already taped in place is a stroke of genius. Your channel overall is a joy to watch. I salute you, sir. :D
Great video - as with all your videos you have succeeded once again in taking the guesswork (and more than a little of the apprehension) out of attempting new detailing techniques. Looking at the router jig, though, would it be possible to grind some metal off the corners (or to chamfer the bottom edge) on the "guitar side" of the router mounting to allow you to work around a slightly steeper arm contour? It seems there's at least half an inch or so of extraneous material along those edges.
That was great Fletch. I used to use super glue on my ukulele bindings, which was great for sticking skin to wood! Haha! Never would have thought of acetone. Gonna use that method on my Tele build projects. Fantastic guitar build videos. Thank you very much Fletch.
those binding jigs are irreplacable when you need it. Nothing else can do it. It might sit on the shelf most of the time but when you need it you're glad you have it :) Great video as always mate
Firstly just like to say that I appreciate your videos a great deal, they have helped me tremendously. Just wondering if you could tell how you round over the arm relief in the body at the location where your drop top bends down over the slope? How thick is the drop top?
You know David, I was thinking that modifying the base that the binding router attaches to would give you a lot more clearance for deeper arm cut binding.
So, I've been reading that acetone is better for perloid and a glue called "rooglue" is good for ABS. Since Rooglue is from down under.. I figure you're the best source for the answer. The acetone is considerably cheaper to purchase and looks relatively easier to apply. I have both here... I can only assume the rooglue leaves shine-ons that effect the finish?
:) i may ask for some guidance/advice in the future if thats ok? as im going getting the gear to do a couple of guitar refurbishments then i plan on making my first guitar, i cant wait :)
Your video's are incredibly helpful for the aspiring luthier. I'm working on a guitar that will include a natural flame maple binding. How do you recommend bending and gluing the binding? And if I stain the top of the guitar, how can I prevent the stain from bleeding into the binding? I imagine it would seep under tape.
Re; binding glue. Did you use pure acetone and what about acetone based adhesives? Some have dissolved binding into acetone and used that as glue. Opinions please. Thank you for sharing.
Fletcher, What Router you use in the videos? Where to buy the templates for Strat and Tele videos? I have templates already, but wanted to follow his line of construction has helped me greatly.
This was an eye-opener, learned something new, thanks. Will this work on tourtoise and celluloid bindings, too? Thanks for your informative videos, ripper from Norway!
read the MSDS on the acetone. You're PROBABLY fine in this small and infrequent exposure to it, but acetone absorbed through the skin in too large an amount will cause neurological damage. Better safe than sorry I'd recommend some latex gloves when doing this job.
I wondered if you tried this type of gluing method on a scrap of wood to make sure the acetone melts the ABS all the way down to the bottom of the routed channel, making sure you are not just melting the top of the binding?
Hi Wilf, I certainly did test it before going ahead and using it on a guitar body. The acetone freely flows to the bottom of the channel and the bond is good. 3 bodies in now with this method and it is rock solid and a lot less messy. Cheers
Hi David, I'm just wondering if you've ever considered using plumbers waste pipe fixative for binding. Here in the UK at least there's 3 types of waste pipe connection; push, screw and solvent weld. The solvent weld is acetone-based, but is a thick paste, so might help fill minor gaps. I've not tried it myself, but have a binding job to do soon on a custom SG style I'm working on. Anyone else tried it?
Hi Fletch. The doughnut has a flat bottom that rides on top of the arm contour, but the arm contour is at an angle (not horizontal). So it's only the outer edge of the flat part that has contact with the body at the contour. Doesn't that make the binding channel somewhat shallower there than at the flat parts of the body? Like 7.5 mm instead of 8 mm? Or is the difference so small that it's invincible?
I am having this problem, the channel is perfect around the flat parts but the channel around the arm contour is shallower because the doughnut doesnt rest on the very tip of the guitar so my arm countour channel is about 1mm shallower, i cant think of any way around this 😢
Mate, that's awesome. Now that my wood shop is set up again, I am looking for bits of wood to start my own build. These videos are invaluable to me. THANKS!
To bind a deeper arm contour the "doughnut"can be extended by removing it and placing a Teflon washer under it .For a photo of this setup see the reviews at stewart macdonald www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for_Routing/TrueChannel_Binding_Router_Jig.html the date of the review was 4/3/2013 All the best Neil How's the new video coming along?
Mate, all over the place really. Depends on what it is. If you mean the maple, I have to buy that direct from Canada, wouldn't find a piece like that in Australia I don't think
Thanks so much for the excellent instructions. I just used this in my shop but made my own jig for routing instead of spending for the StewMac version. A bearing glide, angle aluminum, and 2040 T-track set be back about $40US. Turned a bumper for the base on the lathe and I reverse mounted the 5x3 inch angle aluminum so there's no need for a spacer to raise the guitar body. Your work is very clear and has helped me with my first guitar build. Thank you!
I really appreciate the time you took to do this video. Great tutorial.
A joy to watch you work showing us so much that others do not reveal.Thanks
Packing tape, it's clear to see your work, the adhesive has 10x superior holding strength vs all other tapes, and it's cheap!. It comes in different widths for different areas. You can get it anywhere, hardware store, your favorite shopping store.
Excellent videos Mr Fletcher, attention to details and craftsmanship is brilliant!
Using the fine tips to deposit the acetone with the binding already taped in place is a stroke of genius. Your channel overall is a joy to watch. I salute you, sir. :D
Great video - as with all your videos you have succeeded once again in taking the guesswork (and more than a little of the apprehension) out of attempting new detailing techniques. Looking at the router jig, though, would it be possible to grind some metal off the corners (or to chamfer the bottom edge) on the "guitar side" of the router mounting to allow you to work around a slightly steeper arm contour? It seems there's at least half an inch or so of extraneous material along those edges.
That was great Fletch. I used to use super glue on my ukulele bindings, which was great for sticking skin to wood! Haha!
Never would have thought of acetone. Gonna use that method on my Tele build projects.
Fantastic guitar build videos. Thank you very much Fletch.
those binding jigs are irreplacable when you need it. Nothing else can do it. It might sit on the shelf most of the time but when you need it you're glad you have it :)
Great video as always mate
My thoughts exactly Andrew - Always glad its there for those occasions
Tools... just to need a specific one to notice that you don´t have it! :-)
Question answered I kept watching and you answered...Thanks for another awesome video tip....
Firstly just like to say that I appreciate your videos a great deal, they have helped me tremendously. Just wondering if you could tell how you round over the arm relief in the body at the location where your drop top bends down over the slope? How thick is the drop top?
Your videos are phenomenal! Thanks for posting
Excellent technique as usual Fletch
You know David, I was thinking that modifying the base that the binding router attaches to would give you a lot more clearance for deeper arm cut binding.
who is david?
Fantastic Talented fella, Thanks...Looking to make a Jig, great video and well explained
You area very smart craftsman. Is you router jig bought or did you make your own,
So, I've been reading that acetone is better for perloid and a glue called "rooglue" is good for ABS. Since Rooglue is from down under.. I figure you're the best source for the answer. The acetone is considerably cheaper to purchase and looks relatively easier to apply. I have both here... I can only assume the rooglue leaves shine-ons that effect the finish?
great video as always Mr Fletch
Cheers mate ! :-)
:) i may ask for some guidance/advice in the future if thats ok? as im going getting the gear to do a couple of guitar refurbishments then i plan on making my first guitar, i cant wait :)
Very clear and intresting video! Wanted to ask what material is the binding made of?
Great, man! I´ve learned a little bit more today. Thanks for sharing and cheers from Brazil!
great video! super informative. Can you make a video of when you rout the neck pocket on this one? I'm interested to see how that process goes.
Sorry mate, its already routed and the guitar is sprayed with lacquer. My Strat Series shows the neck pocket being routed though ( Part 7)
I've seen those too! I was just wondering if the process was any different because of the binding
MatthewRomanoMusic
No different
Your video's are incredibly helpful for the aspiring luthier. I'm working on a guitar that will include a natural flame maple binding. How do you recommend bending and gluing the binding? And if I stain the top of the guitar, how can I prevent the stain from bleeding into the binding? I imagine it would seep under tape.
Beautifully done!
I would love to see you build a semi-hollow body guitar or an acoustic guitar!
Re; binding glue. Did you use pure acetone and what about acetone based adhesives? Some have dissolved binding into acetone and used that as glue. Opinions please. Thank you for sharing.
Fletcher,
What Router you use in the videos?
Where to buy the templates for Strat and Tele videos? I have templates already, but wanted to follow his line of construction has helped me greatly.
Very Cool Fletcher,from Spain!!!
This was an eye-opener, learned something new, thanks. Will this work on tourtoise and celluloid bindings, too? Thanks for your informative videos, ripper from Norway!
read the MSDS on the acetone.
You're PROBABLY fine in this small and infrequent exposure to it, but acetone absorbed through the skin in too large an amount will cause neurological damage.
Better safe than sorry I'd recommend some latex gloves when doing this job.
I wondered if you tried this type of gluing method on a scrap of wood to make sure the acetone melts the ABS all the way down to the bottom of the routed channel, making sure you are not just melting the top of the binding?
Hi Wilf, I certainly did test it before going ahead and using it on a guitar body. The acetone freely flows to the bottom of the channel and the bond is good. 3 bodies in now with this method and it is rock solid and a lot less messy. Cheers
great video as always...I don't suppose the acetone will work with wood on wood binding?
No, the Acetone melts the ABS binding into place.
@@FletcherHandcraftedGuitars Is it normal acetone like nail polisher or different level acetone. You put glue on the bottom of binding right?
I have been, literally, messing around with glue, when just acetone would have done it. Thanks :)
:-)
Hi David, I'm just wondering if you've ever considered using plumbers waste pipe fixative for binding. Here in the UK at least there's 3 types of waste pipe connection; push, screw and solvent weld. The solvent weld is acetone-based, but is a thick paste, so might help fill minor gaps. I've not tried it myself, but have a binding job to do soon on a custom SG style I'm working on. Anyone else tried it?
Hi Mike , I've not tried i sorry !
i use this same method but i use thin CA instead of acetone.
Great video. Thank you so much.
Would naptha work also,and will this method melt epoxy?
can you flip the z axis carrier so the router is mounted on the other side, then it would go much lower?
this just blew my mind...
Great as always :D
Acetone as a glue? How does that work? Does it melt the binding onto the wood?
Correct
Wow I have never seen acetone used as glue, how does that work? Is it slightly melting the binding?
Yes. Acetone melts plastic. It basically glues to itself.
Did the acetone cause the grain to raise? Is that the discoloration where the acetone soaked in the grain before you sanded it?
Discoloration sands away easily
Hi Fletch. The doughnut has a flat bottom that rides on top of the arm contour, but the arm contour is at an angle (not horizontal). So it's only the outer edge of the flat part that has contact with the body at the contour. Doesn't that make the binding channel somewhat shallower there than at the flat parts of the body? Like 7.5 mm instead of 8 mm? Or is the difference so small that it's invincible?
Hi Johnny, If there is any difference I have not noticed
I am having this problem, the channel is perfect around the flat parts but the channel around the arm contour is shallower because the doughnut doesnt rest on the very tip of the guitar so my arm countour channel is about 1mm shallower, i cant think of any way around this 😢
you say you use 'acetone to glue on the binding? do you mean CA glue? super glue?
do you just use acetone? how does it bind?
Acetone melts the abs plastic binding allowing you to use the melted side to glue it in place
Mate, that's awesome. Now that my wood shop is set up again, I am looking for bits of wood to start my own build. These videos are invaluable to me. THANKS!
Welcome ! Looking forward to see you embark on a build Nelson
what kind of glue is that??
Hey Dave.....what size binding is that you're using for this guitar.......Thanks in advance.....Tom
More than likely its the 0.060" thick binding
To bind a deeper arm contour the "doughnut"can be extended by removing it and placing a Teflon washer under it .For a photo of this setup see the reviews at stewart macdonald www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for_Routing/TrueChannel_Binding_Router_Jig.html
the date of the review was 4/3/2013
All the best Neil
How's the new video coming along?
Interesting !! Thanks Neil, I'll check that out. New video up within a week :-)
wow.. didn't know you could do that..
A quick explanation of how I route and bind an arm contour plus an updated method I use now for gluing binding to a body
Fletch, did you build your binding channel routing jig yourself or buy it?
Just what I needed!! Thank's mate! Your a Yoda :)
how tall and thick is the binding in this guitar?
Popescu Kevin
Cream ABS Binding. .060" (1.5mm) depth x 5/16" (8mm) width x 66" (1675mm) length.
***** thanks!
I'm gonna go for 2mm thickness and 8mm tall for mine :)
What does acetone do? Does it function as a glue?
It melts the ABS Binding
What kinda tape are you using and how long(and what temperature) do you heat the binding at those tight curves?
You heat it just enough to bend it. Be careful not too much heat..it melts and burns the plastic0
@@aevoguitars2576 Thanks for the tip anyway👍I managed to install binding successfully by using hair dryer and acetone.
David, where do you get your timber?
Mate, all over the place really. Depends on what it is. If you mean the maple, I have to buy that direct from Canada, wouldn't find a piece like that in Australia I don't think
Thanks mate, but do you have a minimum order you need etc? Would you buy extra so a humble trainee in perth could buy some...?
Check Ebay.com , there is stuff listed all the time. - search for "flame maple billet"
Champion, thanks mate
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