Kitbashing Space Marines into King Arthurs Knights!
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- Daves Shields of Avalon Space Marine Chapter Return!
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Glory to Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference 1000 or something.
Edit: What if characters like the Green knight and Mordred were Chaplains, Teachers playing the enemies and tragic characters of Arthurian Legend they teach to the recruits, the living embodiment of the demise of the Great Heroes and Villains, a constant reminder to the Chapter of the lessons of those legends.
A Chaplain’s Crozius does share similarities with an Axe like that of the Green Knight.
Feel like the green knight should be a dreadnought
That’s also interesting, but I had this idea of a festival where each person who represents a major character from Arthurian Legend puts on a play to reenact certain myths, Gawain and the Green Knight for example.
Besides, Dave did say he had plans for the Green Knight already.
1000? Do you mean the 1000th Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference this week?
Yeah, as soon as I saw the reference I got "Knights of the Round Table" stuck in my head.
we dont get Shields of Avalon videos very often. but its always a treat when we do.
Sir Melion was a werewolf in service to king Arthur, Sir Galehaut was Lancelot's best friend and half giant, and Sir Bedivere was a giant slayer. And also a mage in some stories!
Congratulations, with that intro you win the Internet
Yeah it had me rolling
So fun fact, this channel has actually inspired me to try out miniature collecting/painting for myself. I got an AoS starter kit for a my birthday and will see how I like it. If so I'll probably continue, if not then I'll stick to Heroforge, but I wanted to let you guys know that you've had an impact on me.
Have you done Sir Gawain yet?
If not, I want to suggest a diarama where he comes face to face with the Green Knight.
I think a Death Guard marine will make the best Green Knight.
Yes. Gawain was his first knight.
if you're ever looking for long swords and good helmets,
the grey knight strike squad box is an AMAZING source for conversion bits.
they have some of the best greatswords
I now want to make a DA successor chapter focused on the honour bound aspect of knights, but with the darkness in the background. The chaplains are suspicious and paranoid, but carry that themselves, unwilling to taint the honour of the individual astartes. They use humans and servitors to investigate, keeping clear records of every death they orchestrate, in the shadows but ready to be held accountable. (Because you can be dark, brutal and cynical without being stupid)
I like it, you could use imperial agents to represent the human intelligence officer types
People so often think all the successors have to be like the original chapter but i imagine many will not have had any actual contact with their founding chapter, the galaxy is a big place after all.
The Mortifactors are also an Ultra successor, hard to be more different.
Black Templar and Imperial Fists couldnt be more different :D
@bremer1701 another great example
to signify mythical mordred's disloyal nature you could take away the yellow/white secondary color associated with King Arthur, and make them Red/Black (even if they are just supposed to be the one that trains against the others, i think it would be fun to nod to that bit of fantasy)
lol what if the helmet being skewered by Lancelot is one from mordred's company, not to copy dark angels but they could be a type of fallen for the shields of avalon
The helmet is pretty open, I painted it as red corsairs but really it could be anything
With Mordred it depends upon the version of the mythology.
My favorite is one where Camlen was due to a cowardly gloryhound that screws himself over over the course of the story.
Arthur heads off on campaign, traditionally to go fight the romans. There's a hard battle and the knight flees in the middle of it back to Camelot and tells everyone that Arthur must be dead and his forces lost. This leads to him and others pushing Mordred to take the throne as the proper heir (being either the bastard son or nephew of Arthur there).
Mordred eventually gets forced into taking it, but the knight then gets annoyed for not having gotten the "proper respect" for having been on campaign when Arthur was "lost"...he hears that Arthur is still around, so runs off to say that Mordred has stolen the throne...
He bounces back and forth and creates a lot of the mess there, and, again flees the final battle where he's struck by an arrow and pinned to a treestump in the brush where he dies alone, forgotten, and his name forever lost.
@@AzraelThanatos it is unfortunate that his manipulation brought about such a tragedy, but his end was fitting as a traitor whose name went unrecorded
@@ieatrainbows095 Yep, and it added to the tragedy of the entire thing.
Especially since Mordred didn't really even want the throne at that point
That intro was fun 😂
I'm really looking forward to Brave Sir Robin and his accompanying minstels
Noise Marine helmet with enormous speaker grill?
And the aptly named; Sir Not-Appearing-in-this-Chapter
Best intro yet
For Mordred’s company: OPFOR (Opposing Force) is definitely a thing militaries do to simulate adversary capabilities and tactics. So you could have a company that leans in a very dark direction because their purpose is to become well-versed in the tactics and strategies of the Chapter’s enemies. They could simulate chaos tactics and equipment, have human detachments to simulate traitor guard, or even equip them with forbidden xenos weaponry. The options are endless! And because it’s warhammer 40k, exposure to such things would definitely have a negative effect on this almost cursed company. A very good idea!
I really really love your King Arthur kitbashes, I really can't wait to see more!
Return of the shields of Avalon.... I am so happy right now 😁
Mordred built from an Eliminator as captain of the scout company? I don't know Green Knight I just see a dreadnought or an actual Imperial Knight? Super cool project!
Yes, more Shields of Avalon! Love the addition of the history and the explanation of the difference between successor chapters and their founding chapter.
There is actually a decent historical argument for the Shields of Avalon making sense as an Ultramarines Successor chapter. The Roman to Aruthrian myth connection does exist and fairly directly too. There is a fairly common idea that if there was a historical King Arthur he would have been a Romano-Breton Leader. The evidence is basically a mention in two early medieval chronicles, the Historia Brittonum and Annales Cambriae to an Arthur who fought against early Anglo-Saxon invasions. Even though 2 thin sources does not a solid historical narrative make it is perfectly enough for warhammer lore.
The tldr story is that as the Western Roman Empire started to fall apart they withdrew their Legions and Administrative support from the Roman Province of Britain the people who were living there still kindof carried on doing Roman things even though they were now on their own without the official institutions of the Roman Empire. This situation lasted for about a century and a half before Anglo-Saxons began first raiding then invading Britain. It is in this era where chronicles say that Arthur came along to rally the britons to repel the invaders. If you want to avoid reading up on it you can look up Roman Britain - The Work of Giants Crumbled on youtube that documentary does a good job of going over the vibe of Roman Britain.
So there is a lot of good backstory fodder there if you look into it, the idea that following the Heresy the Ultramarines were spread thin and had to withdraw support from the periphery of ultramar, only for a small group of space marines drawn from that world to swear an oath to protect their home world even without the support of the primarch could be cool. Anyway love this series it is always cool to see how imaginative your renditions of the Arthurian Legend come from.
As much as I prefer the medieval Arthurian aesthetic, if he was real he would’ve been Roman yeah. Sword in the stone would be a spatha or something like that
@@ad_astra5 Yea maybe though the concept of Arthur is very much a medieval construct, even the sources that people draw the Roman Arthur from were made in the early medieval period with sources closer to Roman Britain making no mention of him so the medieval Arthurian aesthetic is as valid as anything.
I just wanted to support Dave's decision to make the Shields of Avalon a Ultramarines successor chapter with some history as it totally makes sense for an Ultramarines Successor to have a medieval chivalric aesthetic after 10,000 years away from the Legion and has lots of potential to add a cool bit of texture to their backstory
Oof, the pain of favourite models getting broken. I felt that on a spiritual level. Glad you've been able to fix them and get back into the grove! Looking forward to seeing the King Arthur diarama, though that Lady of the Lake knight sounds pretty good while we wait 😜
These are my favorite videos. The custom armies/chapters brings more individuality to the TTT channel.
I love you guys so much, you three are the reason I gave Warhammer a try…I get inspired by your videos whenever I dont know what to paint or build
Your kitbashing skills really bring the character to life in a whole new way. This is such a unique twist on both the Arthurian legend and 40k universe-thanks for sharing this awesome project! 🙌
Excellent intro, even more excellent model. Would like a mini series over a few months with 2-3 videos on the project before it is put to bed for 12 months.
In terms of a general idea… A fortress keep for these, including training ground and Knight dock for the future lady of the lake
Well it doesnt matter what you want does it
@@EdwardWB97 right. okay.
I love the idea of doing a display base like that! It's a nice compromise between painting a diorama and a playable model.
It's a simple touch, but easily missed; I like that the banner on the lance, Lancelot's cloak and Bors'/ Lionel's flag all flutter in the same direction. A subtle thing that really ties the diorama together
Thankyou that was quite deliberate, it's not perfect but I did my best with the parts to still also have a good angle of view
Awesome conversion, awesome painting, looking forward to the other knight of the round table !
i love kitbashing videos as it shows how creative you can be with the parts infront of you. and heroforge is such a fun tool. i use it ALL the time and the team being hero forge puts out new content terms of items, clothes, races and what not to really allow you to make your own characters come to life.
Awesome work done by all . Jen the base is beautiful, Murray outstanding job on the squires and Dave excellent job on the concept building and painting of Lancelot. Also congrats on all the information behind your successor chapter love it .
That feeling of a broken army, I remember it well. Decades ago a buddy and I where going to a tournament that weekend so he was staying at my place on the couch. He was fast asleep I was putting the final details on my custom chaos marines and just as I finished and put the last one on my display board he kicked in his sleep knocking over some things and sending a 2x4 of wood crashing down right across the center of my army and board. I repaired and still went to the event but I feel like that kind of killed all the joy in that army for me after that.
Well, I have to admit, one of the army I get the most fun painting, is my space marines which take this idea of heraldry, with every marines having a different colors. A lot of fun to imagine good combination, some research about heraldic and each miniature is it's own project (thanksfully, it's more a killteam than an army x) )
“Even though we’re in slapping distance.” You wouldn’t happen to mean, FISH SLAPPING distance there Murray???
The gangs all back together! Masterful kitbash/paint/base job! Love the custom lore for your Shields of Avalon!
The Green Knight 100% needs to have an big two handed axe, to fit with his Legend.
I quite like the idea Mordred is a Chaplain.
Also, if you ever field Lancelot in a game for any reason, you could use him on the bigger base as a proxy for The Lion. The idea that his swordsmanship is so peak that he can parry bullets with his sword is somehow perfect Lancelot.
If the Green Knight accepts mortal wounds (allows himself to be decapitated on the condition that he’ll come back in a year to do likewise to whoever “killed” him), he ought to be a Dreadnought. I agree with the idea of giving him a giant axe for a weapon though. Both his arms *are* arms rather than weapon turrets and he’s wielding one like a human would, save that it’s too big for even a space marine to lift.
@BassoeG that is an excellent idea honestly, a colossal Axe in the hands of a Brutalis Dreadnought. Make him an old friend of... I think it was Gawain, who had a misadventure woth Bertilak/The Green Knight?
I know you want to do a bike green knight, but hear me out... Green Knight is the warboss of a WAAAAGH on the Shields of Avalon's planet. He is an ork with a BIG AXE, and he survived Gawain chopping his head off.
Turning the lady of the lake into a themed knight would be amazing. Especially if you started with some opr sisters walkers as a base.
Really leaning hard into the opening gags today, I see.
Love it though. Great seeing more of the homebrew armies.
The lady of the Lake would be an awesome mini to see brought to life.
Should make a black templar black knight model with less limbs.
Liked the green screen bit and the water bottle mic holder. 😂
3:33 The Lady of the Lake isn't fit to be a symbol for a Commander. She's just a watery tart who throws swords at people. Lancelot can't expect to wield supreme executive power while displaying some moistened bint on his stuff. Absolute madness!
lol that's a lot of words to indicate a lack of understanding the source material
@@queenofzenk It's a monty python reference.
@@Hatypus lol my own lack of understanding is embarrassing, gotta watch it again apparently.
I never thought to do display bases for miniatures before. Definitely going to have to do that for my imperial guard force now (and my skaven and Tau).
This was awesome! I find your advice on making your own chapter very insightful, and I'd love to see you tackle the Lady of the Lake
A way you could do Mordred could be some phobos units, Reavers are designed to cause fear in the hearts of their enemies which could be a great way to represent a host of black knights
I honestly think it would be cool if Mordred was kitbashed using some of the chaos space marine bits like the power packs, where the difference is being spiky rather than actual chaos symbols.
Didn't realise swallows migrated that far!
Counter-suggestion: the Lady of the Lake is the tech-priest caring for their armory (she was the one who created Excalibur, in some versions, after all)
I loved the space bears you guys made. Please do a kickstarter for the shields of Avalon. They look so cool
11:38 meanwhile one Ultramarine thinks a Salamander trying to save a human "a burden"
~Horus Herasy: Forgotten Sons
As a quick mention the first company of a space marine chapter has its own captain, the chapter master leads an honour guard in battle instead
Some creatures might be cool additions. e.g:
An Imperial Knight with a dragon head.
King Arthurs favourite hunting dog Cavall.
Some kind of mechanical steed. Perhaps a stag, or a unicorn/kelpie, or a lion.
Servo-Skulls could be good faeries/pixies.
Perhaps some of Arthurs 13 Treasures could make appearances on some of the models too.
Any and all Monty Python references are welcome too (Black Knight with a missing limb maybe?, Holy handgrenade? Rabbit? Tim? Coconut Horses?)
Really excited to see more of the round table made easily my favorite table top time project
I love these kitbash videos !
That’s amazing great job!!!! One of my favorites you have done
You guys should make more conversion videos. This is great and would love to see more :)
Based on the base size, the full base could be a helbeect proxy if you wanted to go that direction gameplay wise
Mordred would be cool as a reiver. A completely different style of marine from the others, but more than capable in his own right.
Such a great model and paint job! I love the approach with the larger base as a display piece. 🔥
Thought could be a cool idea for his brothers to be other marines in this company hero squad, perhabs two regular ones, with bolter and heavy bolter
11:43 Dark Angels act more like knights actually did in history. It's theorised that Arthurian legends and similar stories of chivalry were partially created to inspire knights to not just act like murderous warcriming monsters 😅
one of the most creativy minis that you guys have painted. Its amazinh. And the monty Python reference it was perfect
Really awesome video guys! We thoroughly enjoyed it. Always love your kitbashes.
The Shields of Avalon they don't need to be an army they are just a bunch of merry lads
I really like hwo you try and make most videos team efforts so everybody gets to have some screentime.
15:03 , Really resonated with me, I'm working on a custom chapter of what I've dubbed Conquistamarines I have no plans to make it into a full army or anything but I just take core units, lightly kitbash and paint up
It does need to be a whole thing it's just fun
This chapter is great. I can't wait for you to make Tristan and Percival.
As for the idea of using a very "Roman Coded" chapter for an Arthurian styled successor actually makes sense. As it's very likely that the figure that arthur and his legend were based on was a half roman soldier. Not to mention it would have slotted into the back end of the roman empire in a historical timeline sense.
I just watched this series of videos this week lol super excited to see Arthur
It really is nice to see these guys again!
The Green Knight would surely be the Vanguard Marines (Phobos) company? Or the Chaplain- the haunted knight aesthetic/green man of the woods? Maybe even make it a wolf priest aesthetic? Spiritual and Physical Healing?
THEY LOOK GREAT! I know how you feel about broken models, I tripped and dropped my whole tau army, now my tau are still sitting in a box a year later 😥
The green knight would be a great addition as he was some what related to King Arthur :)
10 out of 10 to that intro. Really sad to know that mini corridor is a tornado corridor. Hope there weren't any more casualties. The green knight on a bike would be even more haunting
4:52 I mean, that role in a Black Templar Crusader Squad is Scouts, sooo... why not use Scouts?
Green Knight on a bike, Lady of the Lake and Mordred - yes please! Thanks for another great video 🙂
Maybe asmodai can be used for mordred
My dark angels succesor (filled with fallen) also take heavy inspiration from the knight orders of caliban. even ditching the chapter master role because the companies (renamed orders with all different heraldry) where always fighting for the spot. and every order has their own culture and fighting style.
Would love a knight themed successors to the salamanders. They would be the dragons that knights are known for slaying
Perfect timing, we just finished Monty Python & The Holy Grail in mythology class yesterday.
It's kinda already answered TBH. If Lancelot was a space marine he would be a heresy era Dark Angel :B
Jokes aside, I love to have kitbashing videos back to back from you guys!
Gotta love some Monty Python. 🤣👍
They look fantastic!
Love the intro! And those squires are a really cool addition!
Love the Monty Python reference 😅 You need the Knights of Née with exoskeleton bits to replace the bits that have been cut off 😅
You should make the storm breaking your models canon in the Avalon lore, a warp storm or something hit the world soon after its designation as a recrutement world, devistating the fledgling chapter and only now are they rebuilding guided by Merlin
so glad to see the shields return
Aspirant are just SM scouts (if following the codex), unless your just talking about chapter serfs that are sorta decorated
Aspirants are all space marine candidates from the beginning of their first implantation surgeries through to their induction to the scout companies - first surgeries take place between 10-12 years old.
@ thank you for informing me, sorry if my comment sounded rude
I love heroforge and have been using it for years but seeing what you guys can do with kitbashing really does excite me and now I want to get pro..... I would love to see more heroforge videos similar to when you made Murrays undead ship brute thing I thought that was awesome!!!
Excalibur is a real sword in 40k and it belongs to Nathaniel Garro
Amazing minis and great production value on this video
Aaron Dembski-Bowden listed as one of his core tenets for creating an interesting chapter "It doesn't matter who your daddy is."
Such an amazing kitbash!
Thank you for not covering your beautiful paint job with streaking grime. Not all of us like that style. You’ve hit the perfect balance of elements that I love about miniature painting. Can’t wait for Imperial Knight Guinevere!
Oh my gosh I would LOVE something Green Knight related!! That was a huge section in my literature class, and it would be incredibly cool to see your take on them! I also really appreciate seeing your explanations as to why this fits where within the lore for the game, its helpful as someone who really doesn't have a grasp on the game haha!
Love to see how Mordred turns out
Jen is killing it as Patsy
Funny you guys put this up now, recently made a feudal world Space Marine kill team (legionary rules) myself. So feudal thst they don't even have bolters but just extremely tuned up lasguns 😂
I love this, what a great idea. Can’t wait to see more.
Hey Dave, fyi, chapter master doesn't lead first company, he's kinda in charge of all of them, first company like other companies have their own captain that leads them, so there's another potential conversion
Galahad? Purest of heart and finder of the grail?
Oh joy, another inspirational video that's going to tip me over to making a killteam... Damnation (awesome kitbash btw)