Drum Teacher Reacts: John Bonham 'Kashmir' - Led Zeppelin (Live at Knebworth 1979)
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I was in the crowd that day,, I truly could not believe what I was listening to. When I watch it back these days ,, a life time later, I feel privileged that I saw and heard The Zeppelin.
Same here. Amazing day.
Me, too.
My mate went to both gigs. To this day i still grill him about it...and every so often a memory bubbles up through the drunken haze. 😂
@jakeenan I was wondering if I would have had a clear memory. I went to many concerts, but remember few. 😂
With you!
You don't have to be a drummer to want to learn about drumming, especially when it's the amazing Bonzo!
Absolutely right I should stop saying that!
and once again... to think that Ginger Baker thought Bonham couldn’t carry a tune or had no groove....yikes.....jealous old fart, cream
couldn’t hold a candle to Zeppelin !!
The stuff Baker was smoking back then was obviously as good as the stuff he was smoking just before he dropped dead !!
@Base Ball But then, Baker went to Africa to play with Tony Allen - the other great drummer. Baker's tastes were different.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Bonham always used a 26inch kick drum as far as I know
@@LedSteelers ginger wasn't smoking anything, he was injecting dope...MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE YOU SAYING GINGER WASNT A GREAT DRUMMER? IF THATS THE CASE, YOU CLEARLY DONT KNOW SHIT
This band blows me away more and more everyday. They are one of the few that deserve their hype
Yup agree
The last 20-30 years have seen LZ's legacy grow larger and larger, to nearly Beatlesque proportions. The Stones' legacy has faded away to near-nothing.
Peter Tea makes a great point. I need to stop saying 'don't know why you'd watch this if you're not a drummer'.
Grateful for any views. Drummers or non drummers.
Silly statement on my part. Music is music. We're in it together.
I don't understand how engines work but I still enjoy driving my car.
Thanks for all the comments people. I will get back to you all!
Loved the reaction! To make you more speechless, like at the end, don't forget to react to my previous recommendation of live Moby Dick from 1972 How the West was Won live album 😜👍🎶
I'm not a beautiful woman, but I am absolutely mesmerized by them!
@@finessemuse2123 I've got some homework!
Thanks for the recommend :)
@@gordie225 You ARE a beautiful Woman. Don't put yourself down
I'm not a drummer, just really love the music
That "base player" is John Paul Jones. Jonsee is the unsung workhorse of the band. Him and Bonzo laid out the amazing groove upon which every Zeppelin song was built.
100%
And the video never showed his face, only his hands on keyboards!
This performance about Kashmir is better than any other performance, I have heard led zeppelin since 1973, Bonzo really is to me the best drummer ever.
He is amazing. For real!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I have few Favorite:Bonham, Roger Taylor, Ronnie Tutt, Ian Paice and Peter Criss
I am not a drummer, I am a guitarist who definitely respects drummers. I was actually there in 1979, what a sound they had. Kashmir is always a class track, Bonzo could definitely be heard there. What an amazing drummer he was...
You have to remind yourself that there are only three people playing musical instruments.
Yup! Insane
RP's voice IS a musical instrument.
Technically four. JPJ is playing the bass with his feet. His fucking FEET!! 🤯
The creativity of these guys is jaw dropping on all levels !!!! Im so glad Jimmy had the forethought to get this show in the can for the yet to be born rock n rollers .
this is insane playing, vocals. I mean...cmon. GREATEST BAND EVER!
Excellent video. Kashmir is my favorite song of all times, such a majestic masterpiece, beautiful spiritual travel. Thank you!
Yes Leonardo!
Absolutely. The song definitely has an unmistakable transcendental quality. It sounds just as fresh now as it did 48 years ago. It was recorded in 74 and released in 75
The different timing is what makes this song so brilliant in my opinion
Totally!
Exactly..modern music with its obsession with quantized grid, "perfect timing" pales in contrast to this.
I just want to say, I WAS THERE!!!! it was one heck of a gig, a mate spoke to their roadies who said they didn't play as well as they usually did. It sounded bloody brilliant to me, but they had just had a2 year break without playing. One of the support acts was Chas and Dave..
WOW! Great info!!!
Me too. Finest kind!
I was there too, sounded good to me then, still do today.
Im are drummer as well and this is perfect!!!
@Stephen Small And I was there as well! Me, my brother and three mates travelled from down from Ayrshire scotland. We were all single and in our early twenties, Sunshine and music. It was great. Great days. 👍🎸
26" Bass drum, 15" rack tom, 16 and 18 inch floors toms, 14 x 6-1/2 Supraphonic snare
The magic is the average person can bang their head all the way through having no clue what’s going on. With Bonzo, on the the one and four it’s solid like concrete but in between, who knows where he’s going! JPJ and page locked up so well it created something many don’t notice but it flows beautifully. Although he left too soon, Bonham left us with an incredible legacy of music!
It's genius how bonzo and jimmi sync up every 12th beat
That's typical 12 bar blues !
@@theseeker4642 Um, not really no. It's pretty far from typical. And not really blues at all.
And most definitely not a twelve bar blues.
The drum line is in 4/4 but the guitar and keyboard are in 3/4.
@@theseeker4642 its nothing like 12 bar its alot more complex
John Paul Jones is playing keyboards and bass with foot pedals
Thanks Charles!!
Just like Geddy
JPJ was the band at the very end. They were all strung out on booze and drugs. (Except) JPJ. - He told them all just before they recorded "In through the outdoor". "We paid for this studio". "Let's write some music !!!" - And you can hear this in the album. Very Keyboard layden...
Kashmir is not a song, it's a journey across the universe
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what it is!
The most amazing thing about Led Zeppelin is the brotherhood. Jimmy Page inherited a band's obligations, and to fulfill the obligation he hired some session players he knew. A dozen years later when Bonzo died they made the decision to disband rather than go on without their brother. Just think about how many bands from that era lost a member and just kept trucking. Zeppelin, the band formed by a session player filled with other session players, could not stand to replace Bonham.
Awesome info James!!!
Most casual fans don't actually know the reasons they came together.
I'm 42, been a HUGE Zep fan since I got into them my sophmore year of high school (10th grade)...... when I watch their shows, this one and the 2007 reunion concert, I come to tears thinking how I could never see them live in concert. This is one band I would seriously morgage my house if I had to to buy tickets for. I wouldn't care if they cost $5,000. I would see them if they toured. Money is no object. I was born too late. These guys in their prime were just pure magic. Absolute magic. Off the charts and out of this world.
I was lucky enough to see and hear this live on one of their previous tours. To say that show was surreal would be an understatement. I knew absolutely I was in the presence of greatness. Bonzo was incredible but they all brought something to the party. Jimmy Page playing Dazed and Confused was something to behold!
This is arguably THE songTh that defines Led Zeppelin. It embodies so much of the music they represent and conveys the divergence from mainstream that creates the space for them to occupy. They were innovators and inspirations for countless bands since. They will live in infamy throughout many genres of the future, but the core of this band lies in blues. I was enamored with their diversity, in my youth and am compelled with their voice, in my later years. May their songs grow your spirit in perpetuity.
Thanks for the passion!
Great stuff
Totally agree. My best song of my youth, and second marriage.
Absolutely perfect description! I totally agree with you.
Yes, it defines LZ for me.
Agreed. This is the quintessential Led Zeppelin. 'Stairway' was cute, but this was the band at their very, very best.
One of the great things about Bonham is that he always played just a tiny bit behind the beat, not dragging (because he was a freakin' metronome) but everything was a tiny bit behind the beat, to leave space for the arrangement to breathe.
Yeah he definitely feels the music a bit behind.
Thanks Naz!
Same as Jeff Borcaro (Toto). Lay back style.
By the way, Borcaro "stole" part of Bonham rhythm for Roseanne-song from Bonham's Full in the rain -song.
Wow haven't heard this version before. What a performance!
Zeppelin and Bonham...just the best! Especially live! Jimmy was the master of riffs and producing and writing music! Amazing! JPJ often plays the bass with his feet when he plays the keyboards! Super talent!
Oh yeah. These guys are monsters.
Striding the earth like a damn collosus
I think the silence between notes is just as important as the notes themselves. Bonham uses that “space” better than anyone else.
Yup!
How do you think is best?Ian Paice of Bonham?
Also, in this Knebworth show, you see a band who's been together 10 years, ravaged by alcohol, heroin, and every level of excess, clearly still COMPLETELY in love with their music...no "dialing it in" here! I'm convinced the drugs and excess were merely something they to survive, to get through, in order to keep doing what they really loved.
That's it. It's bloody real man!
This is proper rock star excess stuff. Heavy heavy stuff
If you like this you should listen to "Fool In The Rain" if you have already. Very Polyphonic. Check out that foot drum at 06:25 exactly!!! Took me a year to get that down pat! NOW YOU KNOW WHY THEY WERE SO HUGE IN THEIR DAY !!! Awesome live! And why they couldn't go on without him!
Yup!
Love the passion. Thanks so much for commenting
Greatest band of fucking galaxy, too damn good!!
Love it!
Robert Plant: Let me take you there.
Me: I'm there!
Love it!
I was happy to see you notice the fill at 09:05. I rarely hear it mentioned, but to me it seems perfection.
Something I realized playing these songs was that the drums actually followed the guitar it was like they were mentally in tune ! Very difficult to do and stay in place but so damn enjoyable !
I still remember the day it was announced on radio that John Bonham was dead. I was a sophomore in high school in So. Cal. at the time, and upon the announcement, I felt I had been run over by a train. Nothing but Bonham and Zep tributes on the radio for days. I swear I remember Jim Ladd on KLOS radio was crying. The thunder on 9/25/80 was silenced, but the music and John Bonham legacy will live on forever.
bubhub64 same here , I heard the news when I came home from school , it was Thursday at 230 in the afternoon and my brother come in and said Bonhams dead and I froze In my tracks and my heart sank. I was crushed. We were getting ready to go to Philadelphia for the 1980 tour that was just announced. I remember putting on the radio and hearing Nicky Horne from Capital Radio talking about Bonham dying and saying “ I truly believe this is the end of Led Zeppelin” and he was right. Then they played Ten Years Gone.I will never forget that day.
Well said!
I’d you really wanna see the epicness of what John is actually playing then I recommend checking out Bonhamology’s cover if this version of Kashmir, it’s mind blowing
That drumming that Bonham does at the end is probably the best drumming I've ever seen. Talk about a whole another level.
Yup crazy town
I was there for the one, and to this day was the loudest outdoor festival I've been to, massive PA system and every thump of JB bass kick shook the ground.
My friends and i were pretty close to the front right hand side of the stage, i can still remember the big water fight, water thrown everywhere, that was to our left. Their were 5 of us travelled 200 miles like sardines in a small car.
Best drums of any song ever. I saw their last tour.
Was there on the first day, 7 days before this one. Remember the mood in my pub on the day Bonham died too.
Wow! That's amazing Michael.
I imagine the air got sucked out of the room. Beer tasted a bit worse
I love watching musician reactions to LZ. Yours are great!
Thanks Susan!!!
I was there, amazing atmosphere!
I’m a guitarist! LOVE your channel. Bonzo’s definitely a favorite drummer. This tune was my introduction to hemiola!!!!
I am sad that Led Zep had to stop after Bonzo left. But how can you replace him? He was otherworldly, so are Plant, Page and JPJ. It was a band like no other.
100%
No other successful band would have stopped after losing their drummer. The fact that Zep did shows just how integral Bonzo was to the Zep sound. And Page, Plant and JPJ knew and understood that.
@@dctbass Well, also for and to pay respect to him as well. He was their bandmate, friend. The were all just devastated, Jimmy didn't pick up a guitar for 2 years after Bonzo's death.
John Bonham didn't leave, he sadly died, so they disbanded, but his son Jason has filled in for his dad whenever the few times they've got together
@@theseeker4642 Jason sounds VERY much like his dad.
Just an awesome band all together‼️
This is why so many other bands were so heavily influenced. And members of led Zeppelin openly said they were influenced by old American Blues and 50s and early 60s rock,
Spanish music.
26" bass drum, 16" rack Tom, 20" floor Tom and an 18" floor Tom, I've got the same Ludwig kit
Excellent Mark!
Its actually a Ludwig Stainless steel kit with a 26 kick, 15x12 rack tom, 16 and 18 floortoms, still humongous tho
Bonzo could grab you by the ears and not let go. What a joy to hear.
Yes Theresa! 🥁🙌
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Bonham Great 👍 “
Play Achilles Last Stand “ No one ☝️ can play this marathon real ‘
I’m 65 and saw Led Zeppelin 5 times live.
You missed mentioning Bonham’s right foot 🦶 triplet with no toms or snare. You were too busy talking and missed it Dave.
Dave your just noticed Bonham, we’ve been with him since 1968. You’re late to the party 🎉 “
Can you imagine playing this on stage back then with the 1 to 1 1/2 second delay in your drums sound and you and the guitarist only synchronize every 3 beats , you better count and then all of the other fills and creativity a generational talent, today's digital doesn't have the time lag that analog had
Very different back then. Primitive/simple mic technique and foldback. Wonderful.
Great coverage!
YES
4/4 for Bonham and Plant. 3/4 for Jones and Page
Nice!
That is very impressive. No wonder they were so good.
what’s so genius about those two combining signatures is that they sync on the 12th beat and repeats
Whoever edited the footage did a very good job indeed, as it had to be done in real time because it was done for a live projection behind the stage so ppl further back in the audience could see the band. And just for shits and giggles they had the tape recorder going while the camera operator was doing his thing. It was never intended to be used for anything.
Kashmir is a classic example of polymeter (two or more time signatures played simultaneously and in the same tempo). In this case, 3/4 (melody) against 4/4 (drum groove) resolving every 12 beats (or every 3 bars of 4/4).
Yup I did a drum cover of this afterward. You'll find it on the channel!
I wonder if Led Zeppelin being my favorite band, Rush being my 2nd and Def Leppard my 3rd is because of the drummers!
I always laugh at your reactions, because they're straight from the heart and "in the moment." I thank you for that. One thing you said that really caught my ear was, "I've never heard these Bonham chops" toward the end of the song. You see, that's one of the many things about Bonham that was so unique. He would get this idea, or this roll, or a fill, in his head, and then repeat it in different places of different songs. And the very next night he'd be doing something completely different, yet no less unique. He really was a true musician. As you can probably tell, I listen to a ton of Zeppelin live recordings. I pointed out to my wife (also a huge Zeppelin fan) his propensity for finding a fill and utilizing it in different places of different songs just the other night, actually. Mobile, AL 5/13/73 - during No Quarter he does this monster fill. I played the No Quarter fill for her, and then played him doing the exact same one in Over the Hills and Far Away, Misty Mountain Hop and Dazed and Confused. Her reaction? "Whoa!!!" Anyway, my point is: Bonham had a great imagination, and when you hear him playing around like that with some cool fill he just discovered, it's like a kid with his favorite toy. You can HEAR the joy in his playing.
He's an absolute monster John! Always sounds like himself but still full of surprises
It's fun to play Kashmir on headphones and watch a clock with a second hand that moves once a second. I swear they are messing with time.
Truly awesome performance by a band at the top of their game. Reminds me of my time at Uni 😎
Thanks for more Led Zeppelin ❤
You bet!
Saw zep in 75, best concert ever. I'm not a drummer but love your channel. Don't hate.
You gotta do "Achilles Last Stand" from that same concert. Live at Knebworth 1979.
It also on youtube
Definitely!!
☝☝☝ This is a must!!!!!!!! I can't emphasize this more!!!!!
That song will blow your socks off
Keep talking....
Looks like I'll be doing it then!
Grateful for the input and recommend! Very much enjoying the Bonham discovery sessions!
I also recommend “In My Time of Dying” (studio version)!
Also the live version, earls court 75
Yah, both the studio and 75 versions are great.
I've got so much homework now....
Thanks for the passion guys! I love it
Oh, yes; In My Time of Dying from Physical Graffiti, studio version. Awesome stuff from Bonham and the whole band.
I recommend listening to the whole show very loud. As loud as possible!
You will never hear music the same way again.
26 inch bass drum and the rack is a 15x12. Ludwig Stainless Steel kit.. Not Chrome over wood.. Cold rolled stainless steel drums.. Cannons!!
This was Bonzo's Stainless Ludwig kit. 15" rack 16" and 18" floor toms 26'x14" bass drum. Monster kit.
At the time of this preformance in august 1979....Jimmy was still herioin addict and bonham was drunk all the time...and yet they dilivered preformance like this...its amazinz
"Who's doing it today?" Sums it up perfectly, Andrew.
"Who is doing this today?" Well, I guess if more musicians were we wouldn't still be taking about and listening to this.
HAHA! Great point Todd.
Meanwhile a musician copy/pastes their next song together...
Spot on Todd - no-one.
In 1998 I got my first cellphone that could have songs as ring tones. I chose a MIDI version of Kashmir as my first ringtone. 24 years and 12 phones later, Kashmir is still my ringtone..
HAHA! Awesome Charles
Mine is currently Stairway!
I was there. I'm proud to say.
WOW! What was it like!?
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Absolutely amazing Andrew. An experience I will never forget, I remember the best part of 200,000 people holding a flame when they played Stairway to Heaven....just incredible. At 21 years of age it was the highlight of my life at the time.
We watch to learn. Thanks for your insight!
I'm a guitarist but want to understand more my relationship to the rhythm sdction. For me, your channel has helped me immensely.
Love this song! Absolutely amazing
Sure is Daniel
Dazed and confused 1969 Denmark radio!! Or the whole show!! Check it out!!
Will do!
I'm not a drummer but I am watching this )))
GREAT!
Andrew,
I want to thank you for your insights and wisdom. These men reset the bar .
I agree Mike!
Glad to get to Led Zep. Late is better than never!
These guys could play. My goodness, this is so tasty.
the thing with that song is that if you heard that song for 50 years then ther's got to be one of those times when you heard it supremely inhebriated or high as a kite and then you hear it in 2022 and you get those feels back sobre and grounded.
Andrew Rooney Drums, So glad you discovered this, Im a drummer and ive watched this over and over. John Bonham, in my opinion was at his Best here, no doubt about it. Sick Again from the same show is fucking mindblowing.
Oh thanks!
Seriously, if you haven't done the studio version of "In My Time of Dying," you must. I'm convinced that, once it gets going Jimmy and Robert are playing rhythm guitar and vocals, while Bonzo is playing LEAD DRUMS! Listen, you'll see what I mean. Also, as someone else said, Achilles Last Stand from the Knebsworth show shows a man, within a few months of his death from alcoholism, laying down beats like an absolute tack driver! No evidence of alcoholism there!
I hope to get to Achilles Last Stand soon. That seems to be the big one everyone wants!
Thanks for the recommend and the passion Brother!
Also...you probably won't want to review this one because it's from a bootleg, but if you are in to drums and Bonzo, you HAVE to hear this: "The Song Remains the Same" from LA Forum, '77. Listen first to the studio version, then live from' 73, then this. Absolutely BLISTERING pace, triple fills, and an explosively flurry so fast that if it was anyone else you'd think it was a drum roll. Quite simply, this song at this time was not big enough to contain John Bonham. I'd give anything to have been at that show and have about $10-worth of whatever he was on that night!
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The footage being so clean is probably because it was caught on 40mm film
Good shout. Fantastic footage
Im a bassist. I listen to drummers a whole lot more than I do other bassists.
Thanks for your take on this one
They were the only ones doing it back then as a band they really were special
It's worth noting that, for this tune, both live and on the record, they are running his cymbal mics through a phaser effect. Hence the "swishy" sound.
Oh great info. I thought it was an mp3 squashed compression artifact. (after the original recording obviously)
Thank you so much.
Heard Vinnie say in an interview this was the show to check out Bonham
Dayum. That's big!
I was at this gig and Kashmir was the standout track..
AMAZING
you make me feel like i first listened. I wanna so much you listen 2007 live version too. Thanks for the video.
nobody layin the smack down like these guys back in the day
I'm not a drummer or any other kind of musician (or singer for that matter). But I love to learn about music, both the craft and the theories behind.
Channels where pros/teachers analyze (or just react to) drums/guitars/bass/keyboard/singing or entire songs (like What makes this song great series by Rick Beato).
Me and my brother challenged each other to expand what we were listening to. But since his death in 2016, I more and more rely on channels like this challenge & educate me.
I bought this album back in high school when it came out in 1975. Had a part time job making around $2 an hour and $13 or $14 for a double album meant a lot of hours or less money spent on something else. It was well worth it!
Back when music was literally 'worth' something.
Changes the experience. And you have a big piece of art in your hands :)
Bonzo's the ultimate drummer IMO,simply the greatest. Ask any drummer today and that'll their answer,nuff said ☘
Not to rain on your parade, but have you listed to Billy Cobham?
@@Triton_SecureGo better than that man.Have seen Billy Cobham play with The Mahavishnu Orchestra in the eighties. Great drummer, got everything, but as I said IMO Bonzo does it for me.
I am so glad you do not have that darn Covid. Stay safe & healthy. Another Zeppelin masterpiece - work of ART.
Amazing led zep went from dazed and confused in the beginning to this.
Bonham’s drum sizes are a 6.5”-14” Supraphonic snare, a 14”-26” bass drum wide open with one felt strip on the kick side, a 12”-15” rack tom, a 16”-16” floor and a 16”-18” floor tom. He tuned them all very high like a jazz drummer and all wide open yet he used coated Emperors on all the toms and snare. He might have done an Emp on the kick as well but that I forget honestly.
Btw, one Zep video you were talking about contemporaries; you can check out one of Bonham's buddies, Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward, initially trained as a jazz drummer. Good song to freak out on is Sweet Leaf. Moves from a very slow pace to high speed, and when Ward breaks the speed limit, the fills and thrills are priceless.
The droning D bass at 1/8 ties it all together
He's the unsung hero!
Andrew, you need to get the bootleg "Listen To This Eddie" (Los Angeles, 1977). The quality is as good as it got back then, and Bonham just KILLS it!
14″ x 10″ rack tom, 16″ x 16″ and 18″ x 16″ floor toms, 26″ x 14″ kick, and the legendary LM402 14″ x 6.5″ Supraphonic snare drum....Found it on Drum Magazines website.
12" x 15" rack tom.
15" rack tom
"slow songs slower" ... wise words ! I am about to 're record one of my old songs .. my demo was nice and slow and gritty and groove laden.. when I recorded for real I increased tempo (unconciously) . And for the last 1o plus years have never liked what I put down.. The demo was rough but powerful , the final recording was
"perfect" but busy and underwhelming !
You have a wise head on those shoulders . 👍🏻☮❤
aah I was there for both shows at Knebworth.
No way!?
The Drums are a Ludwig Steel drum kit. Bass 26x14. Rack Tom 15x12, Floor Toms 16x16 and 18x16. Ludwig LM402 Supraphonic Snare 14x6.5.
Crazy good sound. A lot of that from the man himself of course
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Yeah. In A Thunder of Drums there is a story before Led Zeppelin, when he was gigging, he would jump on other people’s kits all the time and just blow them away. But no matter the kit he played it always sounded like him. Another story is when Jason Bonham was young John tuned up a kiddy drum kit for him and it sounded exactly like his own.
26x14 bass drum, 14x12 rack, 16x16 & 16x18 floor, 6.5x14 supraphonic snare.
awesome. Thanks!