Wideroe E190-E2 Review: CRAMPED, UNCOMFORTABLE, DISAPPOINTING!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2019
- I flew onboard a Wideroe E190-E2 for a flight from Tromsø to Bergen, Norway. Whilst the aircraft itself is a lovely quiet, smooth ride, the configuration Widerøe have opted for is incredibly cramped and tight.
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Let’s be fair. There’s nothing wrong with the E-190 E2. It’s a good plane. The seats are an aftermarket product selected by the airlines. They choose the pitch too.
George L I flown on an E190 with the stock seats, it’s comfortable. I would like to fly an Embraer E190 E2 with the 31 inch pitch or better stock or zodiac seats.
C-series is superior IMO
Cay Nuck shut tf up, e2 is better
@@hoopy844 C-series is better mate..
@Seawolf I'm sorry but no. I'll never be calling it an a220. Airbus purchased that thing if it was nothing.
Airbus A320 Family: [Barking sounds]
Embraer E190-E2: [MAJESTIC WHALE NOISES]
the Airbus A320 family neo with PW engines also have the same noise
The CSeries makes the same noise. It's caused by the geared transmission in the high bypass engines. First used on the CSeries. Some people call it a Vulcan Howl.
the comparison is with the A-220, foolish
It's dumb enough comparing E-JET 190 to A220. But, compare to A320 is a "god" level of "dumbness" !!!
Honestly: the problem is clearly Wideroe, not the E190-E2. You should try it again flying with a "not so hardcore" lowcost airline.
I know! Look at Binter's E195-E2. Pure perfection in my opinion.
Widerø is not a very cheap airline to fly with...
Widerøe is far from being a lowcost airline, although I agree that the problem is Widerøe rather than the E2. However Widerøe have actually listened to the complaints about the legroom and comfort of the E2, so they´ve removed one row onboard
Yeah try a normal low cost airline or a normal cost airline
That’s exactly what I was going to say
GE: loud whine
RR: aggressive roar
PW: *humpback whale mating noise*
First to comment this.
My exact thought xD
those were just whale songs while taxiing...
All of the E190s will have different seating configurations and it all depends on the airline. The E190 is the most comfortable regional jet I’ve been on. This particular airline chose a 29in seat pitch which would be very tight. So this particular plane is uncomfortable because wideroe choose a very tight seating configuration, but as a whole this airplane is very comfortable if you were flying a different airline.
I had the exact opposite experience with the E2! I'm not aware of the forward rows having more legroom but Row 4 had plenty of space and was fine for someone 6 foot!
The E2 is great, Binter Canarias have done some amazing things with theirs.
How airlines can justify providing seats that are now virtually incapable of seating someone, let alone in any sort of comfort, is beyond me. Spending 2 hours in pain is not on.
The great thing about it though is shown at 6:50 in the video. If you didn't cram as many people in; it would be much worse for the environment and the tickets would be more expensive.
@@xxxDanyorxxx Considering EV sales are spiking in Norway, and their electricity comes from mostly renewables (98% hydro), it is not going to be long till it's greener to drive across Norway rather than fly. Besides, they do offer EV rentals already.
@@xxxDanyorxxx I rather pay more and sitting good I mean 29 inch is ridiculous
@@ABSDEFRD So pay more and fly economy extra or business then
@@xxxDanyorxxxI think a Airline as good as Wiederoe should have some standards and not sitting like a dog in a plane and I also believe flying should be more expensive more comfort and humans in general should be flying less airlines like ryanair and easyjet should not be around and selling tickets for a tenner its a joke
The seating configuration has been changed and several seats have been removed recently! ☺️
I recently flew with Widerøe on the same type if airplane. - Loved every second of it☺️
O problema não é o modelo do embraer,a configuração é do gosto da compania!
Sem contar que esse passageiro é uma girafa!
Né hahahah
Verdade, mas ele fala isso mesmo no video, que a problema e' com a compania. O aeronave e' excellente mesmo :)
Kkkk. Eu também sou grande até os airbus sao apertados, so o 777 que me cabe
Vddd
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if you get a chance to take this flight again you really should! i took a flight with the e190 e2 when they first started service with wideroe and it was really uncomfortable.
then yesterday i took a flight on the same plane from london to bergen and ive gotta say its really improved! probably one of the most comfortable and enjoyable flights ive taken.
Azul airlines in Brazil have recently (in the last week or two) have taken delivery of their first E195-E2
isn't embrear also from brazil? they probably sent them a huge box with manuals
Maiden Air they are, but it’s mostly owned by Boeing (at least 80% of Embraer). Their answer to Airbus marketing the C-series (A220), though I would prefer using the A220 over the three E2 variants.
@@Cerby1979 The 220 is much worse when you travel in the middle seat! E2 has no seats in the middle!
Paulo Fernando FZ The A220 is having major approach noise issues. I live under the approach to LGA, where most pilots lower their gear and report into the tower and that’s when you hear it, at lowering of gears and flaps 4. It’s really distinctive and loud. Many airports are reporting this.
@@Cerby1979 that’s lie, Boeing didn’t buy 80%, when they were about to buy, pandemic started and they gave up, embraer is 100% Brazilian, Boeing doesn’t owner nothing.
I work in the cargo hold to the E2 and even they are very cramped.
😂😂😂
@@Samuel-wr5no This isn't the A220 so it's not the best regional plane
Dear people that are fighting, let me tell you that everyone has their opinion, some people prefer the A220, some prefer the E2. We should respect other people opinions. And let me tell you other thing, in aviation a plane isn't better than other, the planes are made for a propose, so in some routes the A220 has better performance, in other routes the E2 has the best performance. I hope I end with your fight.
@Sehr lecker Maulwurfkuchen toma gringo troxa, quebraram o contrato
@@pangolin83 hard to call 5mthe a220 a regional plane at 110-160 seats. In the US a plane has to have 76 seats or less to be a regional airliner.
The odd sounds during the taxi are harmonics generated by the speed of the engines - they give a frequency which will resonate with flexible structures such as the wings.
It almost sounds like a whale!
you'd think they'd have one NVH engineer on staff?
2 mts de altura 😂😂😂 só um cargueiro para levar o cara
Mas Wideroe exagerou no aperto mesmo! Povo já acha que é culpa do avião!
Né kkkkkk
The problem is Wideroe, not E2
I know! Look at Binter's E195-E2 - they've done some amazing things with it!
Yes he stated that in his title
You could try Azul Brazilian’s recently delivered E195 E2.
I would love to see the full flight video of this flight! The scenery is absolutely stunning!
3:56 those sounds are a staple of any aircraft operating the PW1000's.
what causes it? im curious
@@greystripe3737 Harmonics generated by the speed of the engines
Awesome review. 👍 Looks like a great little aircraft - shame about the seating configuration.
Love your route map animation - can I ask what program you use to make it? 🤔
You should try to fly on E-195 E2 of Porter. I am pretty sure you will enjoy your flight
At the end of the video, you walked by a kids play area that had a f-ing mini aeroplane with a slide!
That has to be one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen, I would have loved to play in that when I was a kid.
They aren't that rare
Tromso on a clear day has some amazing views!!! Love that place.
I strongly recommend my friends to AVOID Wideroe's E2. I flew it on a flight from HEL to BGO, and being 191cm, the worst flight of my life, and I have about 2000 flights behind me. WF needs to remove one row of seats.
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Ouch! I'll be sticking with their Dash 8's I think with that kind of crammed cabin. A shame though since the plane + cabin itself looked lovely and modern and you can't beat the Scandinavian views. Great honest review from you Noel, thanks!
That shadow on take off and climb is cool
Norway looks such a beautiful country! Surprised by how long the flight took! That looked really uncomfortable though.
E-2, the really it is quiet, confortble and security.
hej Noel
when you talk about other Video's like the one how you get to Tromso or about Astana why you don't linked it in the Infobox?
it would be very helpful ;-)
nothing strange about those noises, just the F1 car soundsettings kicking in to make the plane go faster ;)
Wow that legroom was terrible! At least the views out of the window were great.
I have usually enjoyed my trips (only within USA) on Embraer jets, including newer ones like this. But you're right, the seats on my United Express flights seem similar to this and they are barely padded at all. And that is rough on your butt and back when you're not very able to stand up and walk around. I don't think they're disallowed - have you ever considered bringing a little seat cushion on one of these flights to see if it helps?
Despite the crap seat there were some great views !! I hope your knees were ok at the end ? They just cram people in these days and no thought of a small amount of comfort for the passengers...I think I would avoid this airline based on your experience!! Thanks mate...!!!
He said newest Chinese aircraft 🤯isn't this plane made in Brazil?
Blaming on the airplane for the pitch is unfair. This is the company's fault
Amor incondicional pela Embraer 💛💚
Orgulho de todo o brasileiro apaixonado pela aviação.
I flew on a US airways E190 it’s a comfortable plane. If that E190 E2 is equipped with the stock or zodiac aerospace seats, it’s going to be comfortable plane.
I mean, try the KLM Embraer E195 E2, it's leg room is wonderful.
It is not the plane that is bad but the configuration of the company that has many seats
I'm looking to fly to Bergen this year since they will be flying fro LHR and I'm not sure what the situation is with Norwegian. Any news? Not too happy about the pitch though. From Bergen where did you go and have you done a report on the new airport?
Good video as always noel👍 ! What was the music @ 7.30 mate ?
The E-190 E2 is an excellent aircraft. What Widerøe is doing, together with SAS, is just pure economics. Try economy class on SAS's A330/A340 longhaul and you'll know what true pain is.
Loved the way the shot worked out with the plane shadow on take off. Cool
I had a question, so I've somehow been booked on wideroe's E190 E2 from Helsinki to Bergen in business class. The aircraft has all economy seating so do I expect a 'european style' business class with the side seat blocked or nothing at all?
The aircraft's in 2-2 configuration so there is no middle seat to block. I wonder how they'll do this.
I couldn't help but laugh every time your legs came in to view! At 6'5" I can sympathise!
Oh man, Tromsø airport. I haven't been there since the mid/late 90s. When I was sent up north to do the military service. A guy I met at Gardermoen airport and I flew on a 737 up there. I'm not sure, but I think it was the -600. SAS was its launch customer. But, It's been so long I can hardly remember now.
Glad you said this, i was on a similar E jet with flybe last year, it was rubbish i'm 6'2 and spent the flight plastered against the fuselage in a window seat.
It was an E-Jet E1. This is an E-Jet E2.
The E2?
Thanks for an informative and balanced review as always! Going to fly this aircraft with Widerøe for my second time in a few hours from Bergen to Tromsø as well. Had seat 8A on my previous flight from Tromsø which had comfortable leg space though i am having 19F today which can be a bit of a struggle (with me being 196 cm tall). Probably more cramped on the rows behind the emergency row i guess.
You hit the spot. I love Widerøe. Friendly staff, nice Dash planes that get you to all the small places, but when I took the new jet short time after delivery, I had the same problem as you. And I only flew to Bodø. My legs were hurting... 2 rows less would have mad a drifference. I would try to avoid this plane in the future. A Dash 8-200 will do^^ Nice report
Another great video Noel! The E190-E2 is a beautiful aircraft, such a shame Wideroe crammed so many seats into it! That is some very beautiful scenery during take off and landing :)
Brendan
Though I would rather fly on the A220 series types, the E2 is not a bad aircraft at all. Only problem is that people blame the aircraft manufacturer for the tight seating when it’s the responsibility of the airline using the type to deal with the seat configurations.
Noel, what microphone are you using?
Its actually the airlines choice, not embraers fault, because for example wideroe has chosen that configuration because they are low-cost. but other airlines, Such as azul have much wider seats that are not tight, ive flown with azul e195 that is similar to the new e190-E2 and i had a whole palm and more 2 fingers of leg space (considering im 13 and 1.48cm of height). So its not a bad plane. just the airline seat configuration that was bad in wideroe case.
Surely what you experienced is related to what Wideroe bought. I follow a youtube private pilot and enthusiast from Brazil called "Aero Por Trás da Aviação" he showed different videos from the E2, a setup ordered from a company called AZUL. The aircraft inside is impressive and very confortable.
Was looking for my sticker on the map at 9:41 but I remembered i flew from Bergen about 4/5 days after this XD
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As soon as I saw the seat pitch, I realized I might have mild claustrophobia. Not only that, but I'd get terrible leg cramps if I didn't have even a few centimeters more room for my legs for a 1-hour flight, let alone 1 hour and 46 mins. Sad reality of low-cost airlines it seems.
Hello Noel very good explanation of a very viewable video and I’m with you on the fact about the lack of leg room being that you’re 6’2” to 6’5” as I’m 6’2” myself and they should take out one row of seats to create more leg room and I hope the airline company will learn from this but anyway consider yourself lucky to be sitting on the left hand side which means you get to see the beautiful west coast of Norway so that’s it for now so take care happy travelling and cheerio
Frosted Flakes
Noel, I feel your pain in the seat. Exit row looked a little better for leg room and maybe the bulkhead. Nice review. Thanks
Why would they use air stairs with the jet bridge right there? No reason you can't use the bridge. Unless it was inop maybe?
When was this filmed
The airplane is great, confortable , quiet and Very efficient
Nice plane from outside but very uncomfortable.Maybe it's the seat configuration from the airline.Great review
When it comes to making profits, you really need to think of means and ways. It not a problem for short people and for kids.
Stunning views on departure and arrival.
The strange sounds the engines make are the pressure changes in the combustion area when thrust is being sent from idle to higher power settings.
Try the E190 from KLM. I think it is a bit more comfortable (I'm 5,4 though haha)
Thanks was this helpful review Noel,I was planning to check the E290 aircraft out myself on the MUC-BGO route but I'll give it a miss now. I'm very tall myself and the seatpitch is absolutely shocking.
In case there is no choice, you can always recline your seat. Then again, the passenger at the back will get pissed at you.
The guy said.Newest Chinese aircraft 🤯 isn't this plane made in Brazil?
Quem voou nos anos 80 e 90 sabe o que é voo ✈️ confortável. A Varig, Lufthansa e outras companhias sabiam agradar o passageiro, hoje o voo já começa um inferno desde os aeroportos que são verdadeiros sopping centers e eles te obrigam a andar por todo o trajeto até chegar à aeronave. O EMB E1 e E2 ainda tem a vantagem de não ter assentos 💺 no corredor. Espaço para as pernas é com a companhia... Viva a aviação vintage, quem voou, voou, que não voou, não voará mais! Cheers 🍻
You are SO right about the weird sounds while taxiing. I wonder if that is normal?
Yes it is.
A configuração da aeronave é uma escolha do cliente, e pelo visto ele visou apenas os lucros deixando o conforto em segundo plano.
Se o camarada aí quiser experimentar um E2 de verdade, tem que voar de Azul!
O cara tem 2 mts de altura e vai na classe economia e ainda vem reclamar. Vai se fuder
@@allexrgs4010 mas esse avião não tem classe executiva ou primeira classe. Máximo que podia optar para ter um pouquinho mais de conforto seria o assento próximo a saída de emergência!
exatamente
This is a way better review than Nonstop Dan’s blatant lambasting of the E2. It stays objective and to the point without blaming the aircraft manufacturer for shortcomings in airline choices in seat density. I think you hit the nail on the head with this vid. Had he presented it like this instead of slamming the E2, I would have still been subbed to him. Personally I have been on the Profit Hunter Demo E2 and found the pitch fantastic, but in the real world I flew on LOT’s 1st gen E170/195 and found them acceptable (I’m 5’11).
I was going to say the same thing. When he said airlines should cancel all their orders for this jet he lost credibility...still like most of his reviews though. Just showed his bias too much. I havent found one jet or plane that I had issues with enough to blast a manufacturer....and i have flown plenty of times in the max before it was sidelined
G SChar The Max per se is a testament to Boeing’s design capabilities. I mean, you can update a 40 year old product line and still make it competitive with younger designs. I personally don’t like the short lifespans the A320 seems to have lately, with some frames deemed EOL after 15 years, which is the time a 73 is going from first to second owner. I know MCAS was a miserable failure, but let that be a painful lesson to Boeing’s engineering team. Dan sometimes is like Josh Cahill. The drama sometimes is fun, sometimes it’s unnecessary.
@@Potatofarmer1898 my brother is a 737 pilot in the US....agree with you on all that.
vinycard I agree. I think Nonstop Dan puts too much emotion into his reviews. He seems to have an agenda or bias about things before he even gives it a chance.
I agree. Nonstop Dan is unfortunately just a spoiled brat who thinks world revolves around him. I gave up on him when he made a hissy fit about Qatar and said "they should call him so they can work out the problem and find the solution together". Seriously? How much more self absorbed can you be? Yeah, multi billion dollar company will personally call you and discuss their business strategy with you...wow...he really thinks he is something special.
On the contrary these videos are very well made and very objective. And Noel often clearly states that "it could be different/better, but that is my prefference", so very objective all in all. And he has kind of calm voice that is just perfect for narrating. So he's earned my sub despite the fact that I don't have much knowledge or special interest in aviation industry, but these videos are just interesting to watch. And he includes so many interesting facts that make the videos really stand out.
Keep up the great work Noel, definitely one of the best plane/flight reviews online. Learned a ton of new stuff as well!
I took their Q400 service from LPL to BGO and liked it a lot.
...but oh my gosh, what a pretty trip that was!
If you google that noise issue, it's kinda known thing for the e190-e2 due to self oscillating at a specific rotation of the engines. many videos on TH-cam as well. seems to be okay tho 🤔
Complain against the company seat configuration so the plane is good
Great Video!
the taxiing turns into a formula 1 car on this plane :) btw awesome review
I would like to see the video of you flying over the Arctic, but can't find that. What's it called?
Here you go:
th-cam.com/video/ONWOyfSWREs/w-d-xo.html
You're welcome. :O)
They removed two row of seats on all E-2 because of complaints like yours. The flew charter flts to the Med last summer. I have no clue how many inches that did to the pitch. The engines also got changed. Lets hope the bugs are fixed by now.
I’ve been with widerøe many times because I live in norway and they land at my airport, it isn’t cramped or anything of that you said in the title (nevermind you were in another aircraft, I’ve just been in the Q400 Dash 8 of widerøe)
You are a bit confusing: You seem to understand that the airline chose to cram as many seats as legally possible, but then you seem yo blame the aircraft manufacturer.
I've only made it to 4:30. Between the tiny seats/rows (I'm 5"9' & listed for dbl knee replacement) and the sounds the engines are making (I'm a very nervous flyer) 😬 I'm a little concerned they would be peeling me off the ceiling as I tried to make my escape 😄 Your poor knees!
You get a 10 pck og capri sun in Sweden for 50 NOK :) Its just 1 hour drive to the border from where I live. Live close to OSL..
You can get cheap Capri-Sun in Sweden ANYWHERE from Norway... I'm close to TRD
I can get Capri Sun for the equivalent of 30 NOK here in the US. Yes I spent 10 minutes looking that up. ;)
@@bobpuppet hehe
.......I did the same route and I can guarantee , it was very comfortable for me.
Thank you for your honesty. We have to say the truth, so that the companies hear us and maybe if they had removed 2 rows, this beautiful plane could be much better.
Hey! I just randomly saw your comment and several seats have actually been removed ☺️☺️
@@StineHopland Hi, do you work for Widerøe? Du er så pen 😘
Just saying that Cairo is wrongly placed :joy:
Anyways, your video was amazing and you're giving so much inspiration. :)
Where is that previous video flying into Tromsø ?
Blimey that was a cramped seat, certainly the worst I have seen on an E-Jet. Amazing views though, I need to visit Scandinavia for sure.
Another great video Noel.
I’m surprised by the seat pitch complaints. I was on this plane yesterday & sat Row 8, the first thing both of us commented on is how much legroom there was!
I believe they have reconfigured it since it was introduced due to complaints about the seat pitch.
You are not reviewing the aircraft, you're reviewing the company!
Superb shots in the beginning
The air company chooses the seats.
Pay more and u can fly a Embraer executive jet.
Noel, remember that British airways e190 has 98 and wideroe’s E190 E2 has 114 because, the new e2 is longer, I guess that 3 or 2 rows longer
There's no difference between length of the E190-E2 with E-190 it's generally still the same fuselage with same material the difference is laying on it's engine, avionics & new composite materials
They have actually removed one row to make more legroom since this video was made.
Definitely cramped, even for me whos "only" 175cm.... Widerøe did some charters this year with flights from BGO all the way down to Antalya, Turkey. A little part of me wishes theyd gone for the A220. Great review, looks like you got amazing weather, which is rare :)
NORSHUTTLE You can pack an A220 with a 29” pitch as well. Seats are all up to the airline.
Tromsø is a big city in the Northern part - if you want to go far north fly 1 hour more to our far north cities or almost 2 hours to Svalbard :-)
That jet bridge with the steps at the end ... rather strange..... lovely countryside though.
Did you purchase the model of the plane?
I love Widerøe's jets. They fly me directly to cities in Europe. The seats don't bother me as long as Widerøe earns the money to keep their service going. I live in beautiful Bergen.
Awesome video man liked
Didn’t realise how tall you are.
We flew that equipment 5 weeks ago and thought it very comfortable.
However, the tallest in our fam is 5’10”.
Fair appraisal though sir!
Embraer E jet family competes with A220-300/100. A220 is a great plane in terms of fuel efficiency and passenger comfort,but after grounding by Swiss airline having some trouble in P&W 1500 G series turbofan engines ,i would like to go with Embraer E series Jet( old series , cause E2 has same 1100G series engine).