it's ironic that people thought this movie was going to fail because of Affleck and he turned out to be the best part of a movie that otherwise, is very divisive
+raiyzo “spades” jr Not gonna lie, I was kinda worried about that. But he was awesome. I think Gal was great too... and everyone wanted Gina Carano, which would have been a giant mistake. lol
The argument is so flawed. First of all, Pixels, Fantastic Four, and Gods of Egypt were NOT good movies. And BvS was good, not great. And I am not in the industry and I am not a fan boy. Second, no one ever said nor has it been proven that ratings and reviews always correlate to box office sales. Box office sales are driven by marketing more than anything. BvS has been hyped for years so of course in the opening weekend it was going to do well regardless of what critics said on Tuesday before. Also look at Shawshank Redemption. That movie bombed at the box office but was very highly rated and critically acclaimed. The thought that there is some conspiracy here to take down certain movies is ridiculous. What is more likely is that movies will perform on a curve where the middle of the curve is driven by marketing and then can perform + or - dollars off that curve based on fan review. In the case of BvS, it is going to continue to do well because there is a demand to see it. But just because there is demand, doesn't mean it's a good film.
+DisappearingBoy2010 Do you think the movie will continue to do well in the weeks to come or will the issues with the movie catch up with it and a quick drop from #1?
+DisappearingBoy2010 Completely agree. The fact that this movie is doing well at the box office is that it's an established brand, it has 2 of the most popular heroes of all time, and it has been hyped for years. This movie was going to make a ton of money regardless. Also people keep mistaking the RT score as the actual score of the movie on 1 to 10 scale. In reality the movie's average critic rating is a 5, and to be honest that is absolutely appropriate. The bad taste of this movie hurts not just DC but the entire superhero movie industry. I like Grace's reviews and she is usually very level headed about this stuff, but this seems so out of place on her part.
MCU is definitely overrated. Doesn't matter what they put out. They can smear their shit on a piece of paper and marvel fanboys as well as critics will applause it. Love marvel though, I read their comics more than I do DC, however MCU is definitely overrated in my opinion.
+JoshLemus See you in Theatres when civil war comes out. That movie is going to do what DC couldn't. And that's combine characters with developed storylines into a political war where the viewer doesn't know who is right. This movie can make big bucks with a shitty score because of its name. But the Russo Brothers are gonna kick this movie's ass. Mark my words Civil War is going to be much better than BvS
+AidanET™ Have you read some reviews.??? some of them doesn't even make sense. + let's don't even talk that TDK(best comic book movie)and X2 are still better than the mcu films. not saying that they are bad. tws was good my fave from the mcu but sorry I'm not on board with the mcu
Isn't it possible it's just a bad movie. You're allowed to like. But are you going to look at the crap editing, poorly developed characters, and jumbled comic book arcs and genuinely try to say this is like a Kubrick comic book movie? Really? It's not a conspiracy. I really wanted to love this movie, but it sucked.
It is impossible, how can this movie be bad? You just didn't understand the mega-super-duper-deep meaning of the film that nobody understood, but it's there somewhere. It is DC movie right? So there must be smth and also Snyder who made Watchmen made this movie. Even though it was almost totally scene-to-scene adaptation and all of it's deepest themes were Moore's ideas, but that doesn't change anything. One more even though - Snyder never had anything deep in his movies, but it doesn't change anything, because he made Watchmen, which had "doesn't change anything" stuff too, so it has to mean something. And also, it is super comic book accurate movie, which was combination of two brilliant comic book stories and some other too - TDKR and Death Of Superman and some other too. Em, eh, even though the first one gets only visual references, while second one was just an mixed up ending. Also that kind of combinations usually result in total mess, but it isn't fact. You just didn't get it. There was no bad direction, total mess, no character development, crappy dialogues, incoherence and other stuff, because all of it was intentional, even though it makes no goddamn sense, but that doesn't mean anything, because it's DC and it is Snyder. So conspiracy is totally a fact, even...em, ok, whatever
You didn't consider the fifth and sixth possibilities: 5. The movie is actually bad 6. The movie is OK, but it was so hyped that a mere OK wasn't enough. Therefore, it falls to the category "unsatisfying", which a lot of people consider as "bad". Also, to add a perspective, I think that yes, for a movie like BvS, it is normal and acceptable for people to set a high standard and expectation, coz it is the kind of movie that SHOULD get past a high standard NORMALLY. That's why, it is reasonable that a mere OK is translated as just bad. Man of Steel was OK, but because of that very OK the movie became so unpleasant. The same thing happens with BvS in some sort of ways, therefore it is bad.
"Today Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives a reaction and breakdown of the current Batman v Superman situation" Well, it's certainly a breakdown.
Rottentomatoes: Batman v Superman: 29% (Audience: 71%) Sharknado: 82% (Audience 33%) IMDB: Batman v Superman: 7.4 Sharknado 3.3 ...puts things in perspective. I stopped caring about sites like RT a long time ago.
+Danny Darville you're right the number is too low for a fair comparison in this case. Still... too many movies that not just me but my friends as well enjoyed watching many times got bad or average ratings on RT so I just go with my gut these days. I also enjoyed BvS for the most part and might even go watch it again.
I hate how in your "analysis" you never admit that many people dislike the film for legitimate reasons. Y'know like improper pacing, loose structure, poor dialogue, bad characterization, and a borderline incoherent script?
Grace, a lot of people hate Batman v Superman not because of the reasons that you gave.. ..but instead because storyline of Superman v Batman is just utterly shite. My 8 reasons, why I think this movie is sh*t: * They end fighting because they share mother's name?? what the f*ck * They have senate hearings not because Superman almost destroyed Metropolis but because there is very very small change that Superman was somehow involved in terrorist attack in middle of Africa?? * Lex Luthor Jr had a plan that was so intricate that it was 99% per cent based on pure luck and coincidences. Most of the movie Lex Luthor is trying to get Batman and Superman to fight, then creates a monster in a pool of brown toilet water for no good reason....How is it a great plan?? * Eisenberg is turning in his best impression of an unfunny Michael Cera as Lex Luthor. What the hell.. * Movie is mostly dream sequences and in the end you are just simply lost.. * People weren't invested enough in Superman and because of that Superman's Death was just wasted for this movie. * Doomsday who for some reason looked like Orc from Mordor?? * Utterly pointless storyline about Kryptonite-laced spear.
+Lord of mangoes Ahem: - Batman's mother, both his parents, haunt him to this day. Hearing her name out of nowhere of course stopped him and made him ask "Why did you say that name?!" - Superman saved Lois Lane from terrorists and then left without apprehending the terrorists, who then killed a number of civilians in the area for revenge. - Lex knew Bats and Supes' secret identities and manipulated them into battle, with Doomsday as a back-up which obviously he needed. - Tell me you don't know someone like that today? Eisenberg perfectly captured the "millennial" villain. - Dream sequences are clearly marked. - Superman had to die as karma for being so sloppy in MoS and BvS. - Why does anything in a comic book look like anything? He looked close enough.
+Lord of mangoes first point and I know ur a hater..... you seriously believe it's because of just the name? looking at that moment when superman gasp out the word Martha..... look at how batman reacts...... (its shows in the flashback to the first part of the film during that moment) he is reliving that moment when his dad last word was Martha, how confused he was and angry he was........... then Lois came in saying it's superman mother, that was when batman was really hit hard, batman was sure that today he is not going to let another Martha(a mom) die again (dialogue was pretty clear too)............ ben really sell that moment, its was 10/10 for ben when he play bruce and batman.
my thoughts exactly. the whole "you hated this because you're too used to marvel movies" is SUCH a cop-out! it simply wasn't a good film and I am a fan of both marvel and dc (and image, but who cares).
+Beyond The Trailer Ok, not trying to be that guy.. but there's a lot of rebuttals to what you just said that me and the average moviegoer would say: -Why didn't Superman mention Martha's name from the get-go? Did we need to see an unnecessary 2 minute fight (which this whole movie was going on) before Supes drop that 1 word? Poor writing! -Superman only saving Lois just goes to show how CRAPPY of a superhero he is. You mean to tell me he's been Superman for 2 years (18 months) and he still doesn't even know how to save a bunch of civilians? Again, poor writing. He only cares about Lois Lane in this movie. Someone of his power/strength could easily subdue those terrorists, why doesn't he care? Captain America would make sure to dismantle the terrorists and save everyone. Hell, Iron Man would and he has in Iron Man 1! -How and When did Lex decipher their identities? and manipulating them into battle just seems like a huge plot convenience just to keep the story moving. - And Eisenberg perfectly capturing the milennial villain? I beg to differ. - There are 2 dream sequences here.. and they really don't make sense. The Flash one was random as hell, and the Knightmare sequence, while visually appealing, came out of nowhere. Bruce Wayne was just staring in the computer screen and then bam! The dream sequence began - If only we cared about Supes as much, his death would've been more impactful.
***** My last year's favorite movie is Room.. And I wouldn't call it a comedy. Also there is a difference between being funny and being utterly joyless (aka BvS)..
On that deleted scene, Lex is learning from the ship's AI. It's just a "video" and is why it dissolves that way. The Cyborg clip was a real mother box and whereas what Lex was seeing dissolved sort of how a PowerPoint presentation would dissolve.
in response to your points. 1. Nobody is asking for a Marvel movie. What we would like is characters with depth, that aren't brooding for the sake of being brooding, that represent their source material well with fleshed out plot points and characters. A coherent and consistent movie would be nice 2. No, Deadpool did stellar. 3. Watch regular peoples reviews.. Some of the reasons the movie is getting mostly meh reviews (remember the 29% just means only 29% of people gave it a score of 6/10 or higher. It's average score was 5/10 which is a rotten score) is the following: Because neither character was actually the character they were suppose to portray. None of the scenes in the first act connected to each other. There were scenes that survived no purpose other than to setup sequels (Spider-man amazing 2 syndrome) The Martha thing is ridiculous. Supermans death was way too soon and completely pointless Lex Luther was an entirely unfleshed out Batman kills people Superman kills people Neither hero acted heroic for majority of the movie More heavy handed Jesus imagery Wonder wonder and lex luther could have been cut from this film with little impact to the plot The editing was choppy, the progression of scenes made little sense, especially with how some of the dream scenes were cut in. Ect.
Absolutely dude! Nail on the head. This may seem weird but I was kinda sad in the theatre that Superman didn't feel like Superman at all. For me Superman felt right in the Animated Series version (including Justice League) but yes I do have some comics of Superman's too.
I'm sorry Grace, I usually like to here your opinion on things but this video to me felt like a whole lot of wrong. Mainly for two things: 1) You fail to mention that one of the reasons people don't like it is because they genuinely think the movie wasn't well constructed, therefore not a good film. Hell, there are some critics who actually love seeing these characters portrayed in this tone but hate how the film is edited and scripted to the point they can't help but call it a bad film. 2) In terms of how this fan... critic... whatever-the-hell-it-is backlash may affect future film projects, "I don't buy it". I don't see how the backlash of this film, or any of the others you mentioned, will prevent Hollywood from trying out more experimental ideas. Again, sorry, but that's my viewpoint. 😧
+Gaymer Gaymez At no point in that segment does she talk about how people don't like this film because it is poorly edited and the pacing is terrible. Seems to me that you need to work on your reading comprehension.
+Gaymer Gaymez There is no hint at all that the movie was not good, if you don't love it you have an agenda, aliens took over your brain your mommy didn't give you a cookie when you were 5, you only like camp you hate DC, anything but that an intelligent viewer just watched this and were disappointed, that's impossible.
The logic in this video doesn't make sense. So the reason BvS has a low score is because critics and some of the general public are tired of Superhero movies, and yet, those same people gave Deadpool great reviews and a high score. Did you ever consider that BvS may be getting shit on because it is shit?
I agree so much, no one wanted BvS to do well more than marvel. If BvS did well it would've gotten people even more excited for the next team up type movie aka Civil War. The fact it was poorly received hurt marvel a great deal. p.s. rrally trying to defend Godsof Egypt grace... That movie was worse than Plan 9 from Outer Space.
It's finally happened: Grace has resorted to conspiracy theory to explain why most critics don't agree with her. She compared Snyder to Kubrick. And once again attempts to convince us that if a movie makes a lot of money it must be good (last time I saw, it was Fifty Shades of Grey she said that about). Oh well. I just can't help wonder what her IQ is.
I'm just so sick of people claiming someone doesn't like a movie because it's too serious, when it's actually because it's simply too messy and disorganic. Make a good serious movie and see what happens. Peace.
+Beyond The trailer Grace, I would recommend to look out for the reception to civil war amount fans, who could say that the film is not dark enough for the subject matter, like what happened with Ultron vs Daredevil Season one.If the critics like civil war a lot and with fan black lash over the lack a serious, then there will be a civil war among fans and critics, which the fans would win because at the end of the day, the fans give the studio money
+Beyond The Trailer In my opinion i don't give a crap about rotten tomatoes I'm gana love BVS but if they change justice Leage over this I'll be mad and love your vids
You make it sound like some organised conspiracy; this movie was always going to open big. Alot of the other movies you mentioned didn't open worldwide. It’s a big movie that isn’t very good. There is legitimate criticism about poor structure, character development and so much more. It apparently has one of the biggest drops on Sunday of all time. I do agree with some of your points, but you talk about influence the press WB has given you yourself 2 mystery boxes ( even if you didn't open it before your review ). I think you are just trying to justify your overly positive review
+Red Luciee Sunday was Easter. And to think that WB could "buy" a good review from me with a cardboard box full of toys? I think my integrity costs a bit more than that, hmm? Plus they did NOT invite me to an early press screening, luckily Dolby invited me, but you don't see me holding that against WB, do you?
+Red Luciee Nobody paid me anything, and to suggest that they did is absolutely ludicrous. If that's you're best argument to discredit me, you've got nothin'.
I just love how she ignored that maybe BvS made a ton of cash because it was the first BATMAN SUPERMAN CROSSOVER MOVIE. Well no duh with that branding it would make a lot money! That doesn't mean it was a well liked movie. Batman and Robin, 1998 Godzilla, and Star Wars Episode 1 were the highest grossing movies the year they came out too. Did critics screw them over too? What does she mean it's like most comics too? Amazing Spider-man is still lighthearted and funny, Ironman comics arenot dark, and Batgirl is like an abc family sitcom.
It's scary that someone who supposedly makes a living reviewing and dissecting movies can look at this and actually come to these conclusions. It's even more scary that people agree with you. This is NOT a good movie. It's riddled with so many holes and flaws. For you to sit here and actually think that some conspiracy is behind it's low rating is just... idiotic...
+Killer Vee "makes a living reviewing...", all the time, from the start till the ending i had the feeling that i was watching Sponsored shitty propaganda, blaming the fans (who doesn't understand shit), blaming the media (who is part of some dumb ass illuminati theory), giving gratuitous punchs to MCU, don't adressing the countless flaws who made the movie be kinda of Meh, let's remember, views and likes, and shit aren't the only way youtubbers made they $$$$
Wow this chick just refuses to acknowledge that BvS has a lot of problems and that maybe this movie has bad reviews because it had a lot of problems. Goddamn...
+Night Rider Exactly. It's not the first nor the last time that critics are inaccurate. Jumanji is a gem from my childhood, I fucking love this movie yet it has a 48% rating on RT and 6,9/10 with IMDb. Just enjoy what you love, don't miss out on it.
why are you attacking the critics and everyone else for not liking a movie if the movie sucks it sucks ands if someone doesn't like it they don't have to like it you sounds like you are making excuses for this movie if this wasn't a DC movie and the critics and people hated it no one would care the problem is DC fans has a problem with any criticism about their movie
I find this hate very upsetting. "Batman v Superman" is the 2nd best superhero film ever released, topped only by "The Dark Knight" in my opinion. How does the world not see what I see? What you see? What should be seen? The opening weekend numbers put a smile on my face. I just hope next week's drop off isn't horrific.
+Marcus Luera You don't have to or you don't want to? Of course you're allowed a different opinion but I have every right to question your opinion as well. People question the film. I question the people. People question me. It's how these things work.
Almost every thought I have is on display on my channel. If you really want, you can hear them for yourself. I respect you challenging me but I'm tired of constantly defending this film in comment sections. Lonely too.
Sometimes a bad film is simply a bad film. Granted a lot of work went into it, it just didn't translate well and I put that down to the jumbled script. Goyer first, Terrio stepped in and revised but it seems too much was missed in plot and too much was thrown in to expand on a universe just starting. They need to keep it simple, tell a stand alone story without grasping at potential storylines years down the track.
Grace, don't listen to all these mean comments, you worked really hard on this video and said things that need to be said and many people just can't handle that.
I like how she said that she wasn't going to impose her opinion on the movie but this whole video is her opinion. First off, I didn't like the movie cause it was a huge mess. There were a bunch of things I did like in it, but it wasn't drawn out in a cohesive way. We kept jumping from scene to scene and it didn't flow well together. And that combined with the enormous amount of stories and character motivation that didn't seem to make sense really didn't help the movie. Plus I absolutely hated how batman contacts wonder woman and reveals all the justice league cameos through one email. Literally every single cameo. It was lazy writing and didn't even belong there. They could have done so much better and if they made it more focused and less jam packed then it could have been a good movie.
I mean batman killed someone with a gun, and modern batman movie, based off of MODERN batman comics, including a comic where he says while breaking a gun, "This is the weapon of the enemy. We do not NEED it. We will not USE it." shows me that the writers and Snyder just didn't give a damn. That why people are angry.
I feel heartbroken for snyder, like wtf he put his heart and soul into this film for the comic book fan, some idiots from the press who think every superhero film should be funny is laughable at best. Snyder's visuals and metaphors were amazing, please keep him, can't imagine what this man is going through..
yes, his visuals are amazing (except for a few CGI distortions) but it's the plot and story that's lacking. they spent so much time trying to establish both Batman's and Superman's motivations and then fell back on a loved one in danger clique. lex luthor's motivation was also shite. batman killing, superman moping, Lois Lane and the daily planet being completely useless throughout the entire movie. but maybe that is not on Zach. maybe he was just given a crap script and he made the best of it.
+eric peterson Lex Luthor's motivation, you mean wanting to not feel inferior but instead stand above him? Yeah cuz that's bad... It was even visually shown when he was standing above superman. The way they had lex luthor act was the problem but his motivation isn't, and batman has a good reason why and so does superman but at the end before they actually fought he put his hatred for him aside but batman kept angering him with misses and bombs so then superman tried to get in to listen.
I hope nobody is dense enough to believe that the studio made BvS "just for the fans". Do you realise how small the percentage of those fans are among overall moviegoers? If they only made the $250 mil movie for them they'll go completely bankrupt and its a fucking retarded decision anw. Just consider that BvS may actually be a bad movie. I didn't have to think very hard to understand the movie and it's still way too easy to spot all the poor decisions and writing in the film.
+Rxcketeer Ummm no, people don't like it because the script is a utter mess, there's no character development & motivations aren't clear, and it's just a overstuffed mess overall that wants to be two movies at once, a sequel to Man of Steel, and a origin type film for Justice League. WB and Zack Snyder deserve the hate, they were lazy and tried to catch up to Marvel in one movie.
+Andrew Stover so Tru. if the had a great superman on screen and conflicting ideals. this movie would have worked. but when batman kills people and superman kills people. where is the moral dilemma?! its the reason I loved daredevil s2 so much. the punisher views vs Daredevil's made their conflict feel real and earned.
What perplexes me about Batman v. Superman is that I am a Frank Miller fan. And I religiously read his comic even Batman & Robin All Stars. So I saw that Batman and I liked it. It was essentially a highlight reel of DC lore and I didn't mind it. If you gave it a 7/10 I agree. I'm more of an 8/10 on this movie. But it shouldn't be a 33% metacritic score. I think if you're a sympathetic Marvel viewer or even a fan of it, this movie is not for you. It is humorless storytelling in DC and that's why a lot of us didn't mind. I can see critics who are into cinematography not liking. But I can't see any fan say this isn't true to the comic.
Grace, I m usually on your side, but this time you are really just wrong. Yes if you liked the movie, thats a personal opinion. BUT you of all people cant deny that it has sooooo many flaws, so lazy writing and such an awful pace. And if you look at most of the RT reviews, they re mostly mixed, but bc of the A / B voting, most of them are rotten reviews. Most of them arent just hating on this movie, they just see its deeply flaws. This movie was rushed and poorly excecuted and had clearly many suits manipulating it. You need to face those facts.
The movie was a solid 8.5/10; it was well written, well directed, and well acted with plenty of interesting reveals and character moments. I wonder how many people truly hated the film and how many people are just groupthinkers joining the hate train. Ultimately, it's frustrating that people make it their personal mission to ruin the success of a film that they have no interest in because it poses a competition to their favorite studio. 😡
She's been fired from Marvel, praises everything DC does while constantly nitpicking everything that marvel does. Go through her Kate's trailer vids and come up with the conclusion on your own, but one sided is definitely the phrase id use when talking about Grace
I think the second weekend box office is more telling. People were going to see this movie the first weekend no matter what. But with such a large percentage of the audience falling off, that's what really tells you how people felt about the film.
Watching the movie the second time was much more enjoyable. After reading all the reviews I went to the theater expecting to hate the movie like I hated Batman and Robyn, and I too much did not like MoS although I though it was OK. As I was watching BvS I notice it was very entertaining and the story flowed just fine to me. I loved it, the more it went on, suspenseful, easter eggs, and than action pack. I asked myself what movie did these critics see? The second being free from those critics in my mind I loved it even more. I do not mind critics being critical of any movie. But some of these critics were taking this too personal. When some critics said things like leave it to Marvel or try to be like Marvel they have hidden bias. It is as if they were trying to destroy the newly constructed DC cinematic universe. Lets leave all the super hero moves to Marvel. For that they can kick rocks.
batman vs superman is and will always sell...its like when britney spears finally poses nude in playboy or whatever magazine it will sell. just because people are curious
Grace, I don`t know why I haven`t subscribed to you yet, I`ve seen many of your reviews and I`ve liked them all. But you absolutely won me over with this level headed and reasoned video. Hugs to you!! :)
box office doesn't mean jack shit. box office didn't match RT score for the transformers and the twilight series as well. I'm not a fucking critic, i paid money to go watch it and this movie has so many obvious problems which i do not need to repeat .some good visuals and well shot action sequences cannot redeem this movie.BATMAN and SUPERMAN(with SPIDERMAN being a close third) are without an argument the two biggest/most well known superheroes in the world. So it's not a mystery that this movie is making money, and of course everyone is going to watch this movie, not just comic book nerds. It's such a big property !
Also I've noticed that it's the so called Fanboys that defend a lot of the Bullcrap in this movie, she argued that Fanboys feel they have power so they hate on Batman v Superman, Which really doesn't make too much sense, money speaks louder, and it was the Box office flops that caused Pixels and Fant4stic to not get a sequel, Not critical outcry, she debunked her own point, Transformers always get shitty reviews but they always make money, It's about the money labowske, so yeah they will make another one and nobody is self diluted enough to actually believe that reviews matter more than money.
Rotten Tomatoes' scoring system sucks. The movie is on a 30% rating despite the average score being 5.1/10. It should be 51% rating. That 30% just means 30% of critics who watched the movie liked it...which is a bullshit rating system. Here's why - If you say a 7/10 rating counts as "liking" a film and 100% of critics give it that rating, then the movie will be rated 100% on RT despite it only being a 70% movie. Do you get what I'm saying? Thats why Zootopia is a 99% right now, despite the fact that the average score is 8/10. The rating system either inflates the scores or makes it seem worse than it is. A lot of people say they would give the movie a 5/10....well thats what it currently actually is on Rotten Tomatoes. Go on it now, the average score is 5/10. It should be rated 50% then, not 30%. RT should change this because it really is quite a terrible rating system. The rating should be the average rating from critics to give a much more accurate depiction of how good or bad the movie is
Zootopia is 99% because of the story it tells which deals with racism, discrimination and stereotypes. If you read the audience reviews, you would see that some disliked the heavy subjects it had and did not have a lot of jokes and other normal cartoon content.
Prince Windsor That's not the point I'm making. The 99% means 99% of critics liked the movie - it doesn't mean the average score is 9.9/10. Which is misleading. It's inflating the actual average score, which is 80%. Because of RTs bullshit rating system, the movie has a 19% higher rating than it should. And Batman v. Superman has a 20% lower rating than it should
BvS had some problems/holes. They need to release the extended R-rated version. Just saw the Communion deleted scene, I don't understand why they took that out and kept that cheesy Kevin Costner scene. I'm still a fan.
I went into BvS ready to hate it and make fun of it due to all the criticism it got and its incredibly low ratings. Surprise surprise, I really enjoyed it. It definitely had its problems, and it's easy to get confused especially if you don't read comics, but it's definitely a huge improvement from Man of Steel, which I was a movie that I didn't think was very good. All 3 heroes; Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, were wonderfully cast and wonderfully executed. I could definitely see the Justice League in them. Ben Affleck's Batman is probably my favorite Batman on the big screen. I feel like there's so much to him that they must be setting up a prequel that expands on how he became so cruel, as even the promo comics explain that he wasn't always like this. Wonder Woman was just epic. The greatest fighter in the DC universe really showed her stuff and made me very excited for the WW movie coming out next year. And let's not forget the actual Batman vs Superman fight. Batman may have won, but they gave Superman all the justice he needed in that fight, throwing Batman around effortlessly like a rag doll and making it clear that Batman would've been destroyed if Supes wasn't so merciful, a trait that Batman adopted by the end. I thought the fight was handled perfectly.
Grace, there's a fifth reason. The movie is a jumbled mess. Even lots of people who liked it will admit that. There are dropped plot lines, pointless plot lines (looking at you, Lois Lane) and a performance by Jesse Eisenberg that is very off putting for a lot of people. Just because people don't like a movie that you like doesn't make them bias.
Sorry Grace but honestly BvS was just a bad movie. WarnerBros were smart that they had a worldwide release. The film had a few good moments, but was largely just a boring film, overly long (how many dream sequences were there?) and the ending wasn't good IMO. The best thing about this movie was Wonder Woman, and she had around 5 lines. -_- Think the drop 81% drop in its second week is a better reflection of how the movie was received opposed to the opening. People pre ordered tickets, plus the DC fans and they hype all mean people were going to see it. I personally only go to see 3 movies a year at best and feel like I wasted my money, and a lot of people feel that way.
Gods_Gift90 Just incase you weren't aware 'IMO' means in MY opinion. So hey im aware this is my opinion LOL. 'the movie was not great but good' - erm also just so youre aware this is also your opinion xD Seriously I dont understand all this defending the movie and coming up with excuses... How are DC going to make better movies when they didn't learn from the last superman movie... Warner Bros should really get some of the writers from their current animated movie universe. (I get that they are different mediums but the animated movies are amazing!) Want to see a good justice league movie, Justice League: War, I couldnt recomend it highly enough. Hell, 'Son of Batman' was so good I went out and bought Damian Wayne introduction and following comics after only really hearing about him second hand.
BvS being a bad movie has NOTHING to do with Marvel but everything to do with WB/DC and Zack Snyder. And, the worldwide gross of movies can be misleading because some international markets can open at the same time, later or even earlier than U.S. does. BvS had markets overseas open earlier than usual because of the buzz and hype over the film.
The problem, is that the vast majority of people who saw this movie are not DC Comics fans. They tend to be the casual moviegoer, or folks who grew up watching these heroes on TV and were shocked by what they saw. That, and they're so used to the upbeat and not as dark tone of the Avengers and X-Men. As a DC fan, I love the movie, and can't wait till Suicide Squad is released. I'm hoping that film will excite audience members into appreciating the DC Universe more.
+Yusuf Evans Not having a thorough familiarity of DC comics is not the problem. I really like the movie and I can count on two hands the number of issues of DC comics that I've read. Most of my fandom for Batman came from the 1990s animated series and the Michael Keaton/Tim Burton version.
+Yusuf Evans No, I'm sorry people hated this movie because this movie was shit. You can make an excuses you like, so far we've had people blaming casuals, some blaming fanboys, others blaming critics. Fact is that most people disliked this movie, they thought it was a shitty movie, because it is. No amount of not being, or being a fan is going to change that fact.It's writing is bad, it's cinematography is bad, it's musical score is bad, it's thematic direction is bad, it's actor selection was bad, it's complete lack of a plot is bad.
"press shouldn't have alterior motives" Wait wait WAIT. ...you mean the press should be unbiased and objective as possible in an effort to better inform the people!?! ...you're talking crazy talk lady! :P All joking aside, thank you for saying that. It's a shame when people have to be reminded of what the original point of their job was
In fact, the majority of fans according to even Rotten Tomatoes, did enjoy the movie. Your hatred is transparent. It does not make you a winner for your tribe.
DoctorSax Yes I hate this movie, and so do many others. I wouldn't care if I was the only one who did since I seem to be in the Minority of people who hated DK rises. Lol what tribe?
+DoctorSax Most of the positive reviews which pushed the rating initially high were added from people who hadn't even seen the movie. Once everyone was able to chime in, the audience rating went constantly down. Currently it is, I think, at 69%, which is lower than even Man of Steel has.
The problem with the internet, is too many people rely on it. BvS was a pretty good movie, and the majority of people who didn't like it, already went their with preconceived notions thanks to those reviews, or their own prejudices. I understand there were some confusing moments, along with WTF moments as well. However, the actual story was pretty good. The problem with comic book movies, is people aren't used to a story being told; they're used to tons of action, comedy moments, and nothing really deep or complex about it. This movies was really deep, and very human in its approach and that's what threw a lot of people off from it. You go to a superhero movie, especially one involving Superman, and expect to see some sort of vibrant, American pie type character.
+Ades Fish I would actually give plot 3/5, maybe even 3.5/5. It is the editing that damaged it, in my view. After all, almost half an hour of the movie were cut at the last minute... Will have to see that final 3h version to be sure.
+Callum Traynor Sure they do. Television critics are real. They're just not all corralled at Rotten Tomatoes. And most love Daredevil because it's quality entertainment -- strong characters, writing, acting and fight choreography. GREAT fight choreography. And isn't that what the people who liked Man of Steel wanted from a new Superman? MORE PUNCHING!
Love this review. This my first comment ever on anything. I think you hit this right on the head. I been watching reviews and it seems like these critics wanna say it good but they have an alternative agenda and say the movie sucked gets them views or clicks and they wanna sway opinions. I've been watching collider and loved the channel then listening to them rag about BvS for not really any justifiable reasons or for minor things make me disappointed. I've subscribed to your channel as you are truthful and not a hater for the sake of being a hater. Keep up the great work and I'll definitely be a full time watcher from now on thanks for telling both sides.
I don't dislike this film because it wasn't what I wanted (technically I do because I wanted a good movie), I dislike it because I legitimately think it's bad. To me, there was a lot of potential wasted and I believe this could have been done a lot better. I say this as a fan of the comics and someone who knows the comics. It's NOT because of the tone or because it wasn't like Marvel movies, I've been seeing that excuse a lot and I'm sick of it already.
Come on now Grace. You considered every possible rationalization in order not to face the actual claims being made by the critics. Now, I don't think the movie was quite as bad as they all said and I am not a fan of movie critics in general. But you've seen a lot of movies. You specialize in them. I'm sure if you look deep within yourself, you can see how people thought it was very uneven, poorly paced, poorly characterized, overloaded, and riddled with nonsensical and superfluous plot points. On a second viewing, I realized how best to describe my experience of watching it: it's like seeing all the footage that had been recorded for a truly great movie, which was then put together by someone who had no idea what they were doing.
Hi Grace --- the Chracter (Steppenwolf or Darkseid; whoever it was ) dissolved because he was a Kryptonian hologram projected by the ship. If you re-watch it, you'll see that the ship likely created that image. Luthor, seeing that he'd lost the battle, asked the ship who could beat the metahumans. The ship "made the call" and Steppenwolf (or Darkseid) picked up the phone and they started chatting. But, clearly, that being had entered Luthor's head. If you look at the pool, it's filled with blood (or "afterbirth"), so Doomsday had already hatched. Think about it -- the Ship told him that it had the knowledge from over 100k worlds.
+CommanderCorner Hate watching has a certain inscrutable appeal. Grace is by far the worst critic on TH-cam!. If she likes a movie, I know it's going to be awful; if she doesn't like it, I know it's either fun or a potential classic. I mean she liked 50 Shades of Grey and disliked Inside Out. I have no idea why she has so many subscribers.
+JamesMitchell451 They do karma train and try to outdo each other though. Writing a good thoughtful review is both difficult and doesn't net you much press. Writing abject vitriol gets you a money making anti-fan base.
+Alekka Cosmos I think he's trying to get across that comic books and video games are still perceived as "boy territory" and some "fanboys" get extremely butthurt when a lady puts forward an opinion that doesn't match with theirs. Albeit, conveyed very well.
+hilyfe01 This video never analyzes why the critics gave the reviews they did by examining the content of most reviews. If she had, then she would find that many reviews were mixed and for good reason. Her explanation for why the critics gave the reviews they did was almost a conspiracy theory. This theory never brought up any of the arguments given by people who gave the movie negative reviews, so all that is left is what she personally feels is the reason for the bad results of this movie. Even though she said she would leave her personal opinion out. That is mostly why I disagree with her on this and anyone who would share this argument regardless of gender.
I'm glad you mentioned appreciating the effort, it's clear that they didn't half-ass the movie. They didn't play it safe and took an artistic leap of faith, and for some viewers it paid off, but for others it didn't, however that doesn't mean it deserves the vitriol it is receiving.
So...we aren't even going to consider that it's just a bad movie? Maybe it's possible for a Hollywood studio to produce a film that is subpar in multiple ways, and audience don't want to see? You know, X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Batman & Robin, All Fantastic Four movies, Elektra, etc. No, I guess that's impossible. Hear me now, quote me later. This movie is not going to make it to $800 million, and it won't be because million of people across the world decided to twirl their mustaches and get that bright eyed DC comics.
I agree, DC fanboys think there's a conspiracy, but maybe it's just a bad movie with it's convoluted plot, no character development or motivations, and narrative & pacing issues.
Grace, I don't think people wanted fun/jokes/lightness in this movie. Christopher Nolan destroys that argument. BvS was marketed very much as a dark film; including tone and visuals. But what people want is a coherent film. A film with substance. A film with a solid hold on itself. BvS just didn't have that.
Thank you. Dark lighting and brooding doesn't equate to sophistication. In fact it's incredibly childish to portray the world as dark and gritty. While that does exist it isn't without the joy
+Jacob Whitfield Man of Steel was blasted for not being humorous like the Reeve movies and WB caught flak for their "no jokes" mandate. Some people wanted BvS to follow the Marvel formula.
Go watch Deadpool . Now watch BvS. Compare. And You will see why BvS is criticized. It is not about the tone of movie. It is about movie being a horribly written. People want to see good stories. Complete stories that are consistent. BvS does not deliver that. Like Fantastic Four reboot It feels stitched from bits. Deadpool was non linear story teller , but it was flowing. BvS does not have that flow. But You are not bothered by that . Your only goal is to defend movie companies.
+Marek Barycz You are comparing apples to oranges. They are two completely different movies and genres. Both are superhero movies, but one is a comedy and one is a drama. One is DC and one is MARVEL. DC is not as "funny" as MARVEL. You look at some DC story lines like "The Killing Joke" and "A Death in the Family" and you would never see something that dark and disturbing in MARVEL. I think critics were going to trash this movie no matter what happened. If it was funnier, they would have called it a MARVEL rip off. If it was serious, they would want it to be funnier.
If the movie was good, it would have been rated well. Don't buy into the conspiracies. Even the studio that made it had no faith in it since they released in march.
Interesting conspiracy theory video. However, most people could care less what critics or fan boys have to say. Pixels, Fantastic Four, and Gods of Egypt were horrible movies and they failed at the box office because people decided to stay away. In the case of BvS, the movie itself is critic proof, and people are going to see it no matter what the reviews have to say. Warner Bros. and Zack Snyder have every right to make their DC cinematic universe as they see fit, but the movie going audience and fanboys have every right to speak their minds without being called a bunch of haters.
it's ironic that people thought this movie was going to fail because of Affleck and he turned out to be the best part of a movie that otherwise, is very divisive
yea
yeah buddy bat flick
+raiyzo “spades” jr I'm still freaking out over the flash tbh that was a mindfk
+raiyzo “spades” jr Not gonna lie, I was kinda worried about that. But he was awesome. I think Gal was great too... and everyone wanted Gina Carano, which would have been a giant mistake. lol
+raiyzo jr “spades” 100% agree.
The argument is so flawed. First of all, Pixels, Fantastic Four, and Gods of Egypt were NOT good movies. And BvS was good, not great. And I am not in the industry and I am not a fan boy. Second, no one ever said nor has it been proven that ratings and reviews always correlate to box office sales. Box office sales are driven by marketing more than anything. BvS has been hyped for years so of course in the opening weekend it was going to do well regardless of what critics said on Tuesday before. Also look at Shawshank Redemption. That movie bombed at the box office but was very highly rated and critically acclaimed. The thought that there is some conspiracy here to take down certain movies is ridiculous. What is more likely is that movies will perform on a curve where the middle of the curve is driven by marketing and then can perform + or - dollars off that curve based on fan review. In the case of BvS, it is going to continue to do well because there is a demand to see it. But just because there is demand, doesn't mean it's a good film.
Exactly
+DisappearingBoy2010 very well articulated.
+DisappearingBoy2010 Do you think the movie will continue to do well in the weeks to come or will the issues with the movie catch up with it and a quick drop from #1?
+DisappearingBoy2010 Completely agree. The fact that this movie is doing well at the box office is that it's an established brand, it has 2 of the most popular heroes of all time, and it has been hyped for years. This movie was going to make a ton of money regardless. Also people keep mistaking the RT score as the actual score of the movie on 1 to 10 scale. In reality the movie's average critic rating is a 5, and to be honest that is absolutely appropriate. The bad taste of this movie hurts not just DC but the entire superhero movie industry. I like Grace's reviews and she is usually very level headed about this stuff, but this seems so out of place on her part.
Krishna Yalla As an example, the prequel star wars films. Lots of money, but widely panned.
movie is good, most of critics are idiots, mcu is overrated, people is full of hate, next target: Ghstbusters lol, those kids...
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+Dillinger Spaceman You said it men.
MCU is definitely overrated. Doesn't matter what they put out. They can smear their shit on a piece of paper and marvel fanboys as well as critics will applause it. Love marvel though, I read their comics more than I do DC, however MCU is definitely overrated in my opinion.
+JoshLemus See you in Theatres when civil war comes out. That movie is going to do what DC couldn't. And that's combine characters with developed storylines into a political war where the viewer doesn't know who is right. This movie can make big bucks with a shitty score because of its name. But the Russo Brothers are gonna kick this movie's ass. Mark my words Civil War is going to be much better than BvS
+AidanET™ Ummm...AVENGERS. Age. Of. Ultron!
People should watch the movie for what it is, and not what they want it to be.
Damn right
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
unprofessional fan boys critics and mcu stans taking DC down. this is unreal. BvS Stills better than the mcu ifself. bye
ya ur rite man its all a conspiracy! .... :/
+luik hernandes this is such damage control lol, "if the critics dont like bvs, then it is because they are mcu fanboys"
+luik hernandes are u serious?
+AidanET™ Have you read some reviews.??? some of them doesn't even make sense. + let's don't even talk that TDK(best comic book movie)and X2 are still better than the mcu films. not saying that they are bad. tws was good my fave from the mcu but sorry I'm not on board with the mcu
Are you seriously saying BvS is better than the entirety of the MCU? How does that not make you a total fanboy?
Isn't it possible it's just a bad movie. You're allowed to like. But are you going to look at the crap editing, poorly developed characters, and jumbled comic book arcs and genuinely try to say this is like a Kubrick comic book movie? Really? It's not a conspiracy. I really wanted to love this movie, but it sucked.
It is impossible, how can this movie be bad? You just didn't understand the mega-super-duper-deep meaning of the film that nobody understood, but it's there somewhere. It is DC movie right? So there must be smth and also Snyder who made Watchmen made this movie. Even though it was almost totally scene-to-scene adaptation and all of it's deepest themes were Moore's ideas, but that doesn't change anything. One more even though - Snyder never had anything deep in his movies, but it doesn't change anything, because he made Watchmen, which had "doesn't change anything" stuff too, so it has to mean something.
And also, it is super comic book accurate movie, which was combination of two brilliant comic book stories and some other too - TDKR and Death Of Superman and some other too. Em, eh, even though the first one gets only visual references, while second one was just an mixed up ending. Also that kind of combinations usually result in total mess, but it isn't fact.
You just didn't get it. There was no bad direction, total mess, no character development, crappy dialogues, incoherence and other stuff, because all of it was intentional, even though it makes no goddamn sense, but that doesn't mean anything, because it's DC and it is Snyder.
So conspiracy is totally a fact, even...em, ok, whatever
She- that- she made that her first point. Idiot.
You didn't consider the fifth and sixth possibilities:
5. The movie is actually bad
6. The movie is OK, but it was so hyped that a mere OK wasn't enough. Therefore, it falls to the category "unsatisfying", which a lot of people consider as "bad".
Also, to add a perspective, I think that yes, for a movie like BvS, it is normal and acceptable for people to set a high standard and expectation, coz it is the kind of movie that SHOULD get past a high standard NORMALLY. That's why, it is reasonable that a mere OK is translated as just bad.
Man of Steel was OK, but because of that very OK the movie became so unpleasant. The same thing happens with BvS in some sort of ways, therefore it is bad.
"Today Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives a reaction and breakdown of the current Batman v Superman situation"
Well, it's certainly a breakdown.
+OptimusSledge oh god..lol...thats really good.
Rottentomatoes:
Batman v Superman: 29% (Audience: 71%)
Sharknado: 82% (Audience 33%)
IMDB:
Batman v Superman: 7.4
Sharknado 3.3
...puts things in perspective.
I stopped caring about sites like RT a long time ago.
Only 15 critics bothered to review sharknado...so that argument has been proven busted....
+Danny Darville you're right the number is too low for a fair comparison in this case.
Still... too many movies that not just me but my friends as well enjoyed watching many times got bad or average ratings on RT so I just go with my gut these days.
I also enjoyed BvS for the most part and might even go watch it again.
No reviewers talked about the starting credit scene that scene was beautiful.
The denial is strong with this one.
Right! She can't believe people don't share her opinion
I hate how in your "analysis" you never admit that many people dislike the film for legitimate reasons. Y'know like improper pacing, loose structure, poor dialogue, bad characterization, and a borderline incoherent script?
Grace, a lot of people hate Batman v Superman not because of the reasons that you gave..
..but instead because storyline of Superman v Batman is just utterly shite.
My 8 reasons, why I think this movie is sh*t:
* They end fighting because they share mother's name?? what the f*ck
* They have senate hearings not because Superman almost destroyed Metropolis but because there is very very small change that Superman was somehow involved in terrorist attack in middle of Africa??
* Lex Luthor Jr had a plan that was so intricate that it was 99% per cent based on pure luck and coincidences. Most of the movie Lex Luthor is trying to get Batman and Superman to fight, then creates a monster in a pool of brown toilet water for no good reason....How is it a great plan??
* Eisenberg is turning in his best impression of an unfunny Michael Cera as Lex Luthor. What the hell..
* Movie is mostly dream sequences and in the end you are just simply lost..
* People weren't invested enough in Superman and because of that Superman's Death was just wasted for this movie.
* Doomsday who for some reason looked like Orc from Mordor??
* Utterly pointless storyline about Kryptonite-laced spear.
+Lord of mangoes Ahem:
- Batman's mother, both his parents, haunt him to this day. Hearing her name out of nowhere of course stopped him and made him ask "Why did you say that name?!"
- Superman saved Lois Lane from terrorists and then left without apprehending the terrorists, who then killed a number of civilians in the area for revenge.
- Lex knew Bats and Supes' secret identities and manipulated them into battle, with Doomsday as a back-up which obviously he needed.
- Tell me you don't know someone like that today? Eisenberg perfectly captured the "millennial" villain.
- Dream sequences are clearly marked.
- Superman had to die as karma for being so sloppy in MoS and BvS.
- Why does anything in a comic book look like anything? He looked close enough.
+Lord of mangoes
first point and I know ur a hater..... you seriously believe it's because of just the name?
looking at that moment when superman gasp out the word Martha..... look at how batman reacts...... (its shows in the flashback to the first part of the film during that moment)
he is reliving that moment when his dad last word was Martha, how confused he was and angry he was........... then Lois came in saying it's superman mother, that was when batman was really hit hard, batman was sure that today he is not going to let another Martha(a mom) die again (dialogue was pretty clear too)............ ben really sell that moment, its was 10/10 for ben when he play bruce and batman.
my thoughts exactly. the whole "you hated this because you're too used to marvel movies" is SUCH a cop-out! it simply wasn't a good film and I am a fan of both marvel and dc (and image, but who cares).
+Beyond The Trailer Ok, not trying to be that guy.. but there's a lot of rebuttals to what you just said that me and the average moviegoer would say:
-Why didn't Superman mention Martha's name from the get-go? Did we need to see an unnecessary 2 minute fight (which this whole movie was going on) before Supes drop that 1 word? Poor writing!
-Superman only saving Lois just goes to show how CRAPPY of a superhero he is. You mean to tell me he's been Superman for 2 years (18 months) and he still doesn't even know how to save a bunch of civilians? Again, poor writing. He only cares about Lois Lane in this movie. Someone of his power/strength could easily subdue those terrorists, why doesn't he care? Captain America would make sure to dismantle the terrorists and save everyone. Hell, Iron Man would and he has in Iron Man 1!
-How and When did Lex decipher their identities? and manipulating them into battle just seems like a huge plot convenience just to keep the story moving.
- And Eisenberg perfectly capturing the milennial villain? I beg to differ.
- There are 2 dream sequences here.. and they really don't make sense. The Flash one was random as hell, and the Knightmare sequence, while visually appealing, came out of nowhere. Bruce Wayne was just staring in the computer screen and then bam! The dream sequence began
- If only we cared about Supes as much, his death would've been more impactful.
***** My last year's favorite movie is Room.. And I wouldn't call it a comedy.
Also there is a difference between being funny and being utterly joyless (aka BvS)..
I don't care what people say about BvS, I thought it was fantastic, can't wait to see it again.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
On that deleted scene, Lex is learning from the ship's AI. It's just a "video" and is why it dissolves that way. The Cyborg clip was a real mother box and whereas what Lex was seeing dissolved sort of how a PowerPoint presentation would dissolve.
Exactly
+Bat Dimen haha kryptonian powerpoint. I want it.
+Bat Dimen Was looking for this.
Tru dat
+Bat Dimen I thought it was due to unfinished special effects.
in response to your points.
1. Nobody is asking for a Marvel movie. What we would like is characters with depth, that aren't brooding for the sake of being brooding, that represent their source material well with fleshed out plot points and characters. A coherent and consistent movie would be nice
2. No, Deadpool did stellar.
3. Watch regular peoples reviews..
Some of the reasons the movie is getting mostly meh reviews (remember the 29% just means only 29% of people gave it a score of 6/10 or higher. It's average score was 5/10 which is a rotten score) is the following:
Because neither character was actually the character they were suppose to portray.
None of the scenes in the first act connected to each other.
There were scenes that survived no purpose other than to setup sequels (Spider-man amazing 2 syndrome)
The Martha thing is ridiculous.
Supermans death was way too soon and completely pointless
Lex Luther was an entirely unfleshed out
Batman kills people
Superman kills people
Neither hero acted heroic for majority of the movie
More heavy handed Jesus imagery
Wonder wonder and lex luther could have been cut from this film with little impact to the plot
The editing was choppy, the progression of scenes made little sense, especially with how some of the dream scenes were cut in.
Ect.
Absolutely dude! Nail on the head. This may seem weird but I was kinda sad in the theatre that Superman didn't feel like Superman at all. For me Superman felt right in the Animated Series version (including Justice League) but yes I do have some comics of Superman's too.
+Fitzgerald Callender You said it perfectly.
It was probably a 5/10 for me. But this movie wasn't good nor was it great.
Agreed
I thought it was amazing. 8/10 for me
7/10 for me
+Lupe Walker lol I'm just sharing my opinion not trying to ruin it for anyone
+Nick Rodriguez 9/10, this is my favorite Batman portrayal. In the Rated-R Director's Cut it will probably get to a 10/10 for me :D
... holy shit, she just compared Snyder to Kubrick... i've heard everything now ayyy
if at least half of her subscribers actually knew who stanley kubrick was, they would unsubscribe.
BvS, an 81% drop from Friday-to-Friday, one of the biggest ever from a blockbuster
+mali mall movie doesn't have any competition this week, and still have biggest drop, but it's all just big conspiracy lol
stop spreading lies. 69%
+Ahsan Ahmed Friday to Friday was 81% The weekend drop was 69% (which still isn't good)
I'm sorry Grace, I usually like to here your opinion on things but this video to me felt like a whole lot of wrong. Mainly for two things:
1) You fail to mention that one of the reasons people don't like it is because they genuinely think the movie wasn't well constructed, therefore not a good film. Hell, there are some critics who actually love seeing these characters portrayed in this tone but hate how the film is edited and scripted to the point they can't help but call it a bad film.
2) In terms of how this fan... critic... whatever-the-hell-it-is backlash may affect future film projects, "I don't buy it". I don't see how the backlash of this film, or any of the others you mentioned, will prevent Hollywood from trying out more experimental ideas.
Again, sorry, but that's my viewpoint. 😧
+D.C. Stranded (Mr. Wright) That was her first point.
John Stovall
what?
+Gaymer Gaymez At no point in that segment does she talk about how people don't like this film because it is poorly edited and the pacing is terrible. Seems to me that you need to work on your reading comprehension.
+Gaymer Gaymez There is no hint at all that the movie was not good, if you don't love it you have an agenda, aliens took over your brain your mommy didn't give you a cookie when you were 5, you only like camp you hate DC, anything but that an intelligent viewer just watched this and were disappointed, that's impossible.
EVERYONE HAS OPINIONS... For me the plot was great etc etc. Seriously.
The logic in this video doesn't make sense.
So the reason BvS has a low score is because critics and some of the general public are tired of Superhero movies, and yet, those same people gave Deadpool great reviews and a high score. Did you ever consider that BvS may be getting shit on because it is shit?
Marvel actually does want DC to do well, just not as well as them - the last thing they want is people giving up on all comic book films.
I agree so much, no one wanted BvS to do well more than marvel. If BvS did well it would've gotten people even more excited for the next team up type movie aka Civil War. The fact it was poorly received hurt marvel a great deal. p.s. rrally trying to defend Godsof Egypt grace... That movie was worse than Plan 9 from Outer Space.
But Disney and its supporters of MCU do NOT. We have to draw a line between Disney MCU and Marvel material.
It's finally happened: Grace has resorted to conspiracy theory to explain why most critics don't agree with her. She compared Snyder to Kubrick. And once again attempts to convince us that if a movie makes a lot of money it must be good (last time I saw, it was Fifty Shades of Grey she said that about). Oh well. I just can't help wonder what her IQ is.
I'm just so sick of people claiming someone doesn't like a movie because it's too serious, when it's actually because it's simply too messy and disorganic. Make a good serious movie and see what happens. Peace.
best video in the internet about what really is happening
+Tysonescobar Marioescobar Thank u! That means a lot! It was a tricky situation to outline!
+Beyond The Trailer Definitely, critics are abusing their power in all the wrong ways for this one.
+Beyond The trailer Grace, I would recommend to look out for the reception to civil war amount fans, who could say that the film is not dark enough for the subject matter, like what happened with Ultron vs Daredevil Season one.If the critics like civil war a lot and with fan black lash over the lack a serious, then there will be a civil war among fans and critics, which the fans would win because at the end of the day, the fans give the studio money
+Beyond The Trailer In my opinion i don't give a crap about rotten tomatoes I'm gana love BVS but if they change justice Leage over this I'll be mad and love your vids
+Beyond The Trailer not to be mean and I love your videos but. I think this was a shit movie
You make it sound like some organised conspiracy; this movie
was always going to open big. Alot of the other movies you mentioned didn't
open worldwide. It’s a big movie that isn’t very good. There is legitimate criticism
about poor structure, character development and so much more. It apparently has
one of the biggest drops on Sunday of all time. I do agree with some of your points,
but you talk about influence the press WB has given you yourself 2 mystery
boxes ( even if you didn't open it before your review ). I think you are just
trying to justify your overly positive review
+Red Luciee Sunday was Easter. And to think that WB could "buy" a good review from me with a cardboard box full of toys? I think my integrity costs a bit more than that, hmm? Plus they did NOT invite me to an early press screening, luckily Dolby invited me, but you don't see me holding that against WB, do you?
But clearly Dolby are slipping you a few bucks
It's your work, I don't actually hold that against you really
+Red Luciee Nobody paid me anything, and to suggest that they did is absolutely ludicrous. If that's you're best argument to discredit me, you've got nothin'.
+Beyond The Trailer Grace don't play attention to this troll, she's just pressed that BvS is doing amazingly at the box office.
I just love how she ignored that maybe BvS made a ton of cash because it was the first BATMAN SUPERMAN CROSSOVER MOVIE. Well no duh with that branding it would make a lot money! That doesn't mean it was a well liked movie. Batman and Robin, 1998 Godzilla, and Star Wars Episode 1 were the highest grossing movies the year they came out too. Did critics screw them over too? What does she mean it's like most comics too? Amazing Spider-man is still lighthearted and funny, Ironman comics arenot dark, and Batgirl is like an abc family sitcom.
batman & robin bombed at box office and killed the franchise.
6 out of 10
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It's scary that someone who supposedly makes a living reviewing and dissecting movies can look at this and actually come to these conclusions. It's even more scary that people agree with you.
This is NOT a good movie. It's riddled with so many holes and flaws. For you to sit here and actually think that some conspiracy is behind it's low rating is just... idiotic...
+Killer Vee "makes a living reviewing...", all the time, from the start till the ending i had the feeling that i was watching Sponsored shitty propaganda, blaming the fans (who doesn't understand shit), blaming the media (who is part of some dumb ass illuminati theory), giving gratuitous punchs to MCU, don't adressing the countless flaws who made the movie be kinda of Meh, let's remember, views and likes, and shit aren't the only way youtubbers made they $$$$
So if i understand.. you are conspiring against someone who you think is behind some sponsored conspiracy o.O !? You should seek for medical help bro
Box Office does not equal quality. Batman and Superman would rake in money no matter what
+Minlech_67 Exactly!
Wow this chick just refuses to acknowledge that BvS has a lot of problems and that maybe this movie has bad reviews because it had a lot of problems. Goddamn...
and the effort doesn't matter of the outcome doesn't live up to it.
Thats why you cant always trust critics
+Night Rider Exactly. It's not the first nor the last time that critics are inaccurate. Jumanji is a gem from my childhood, I fucking love this movie yet it has a 48% rating on RT and 6,9/10 with IMDb. Just enjoy what you love, don't miss out on it.
I can't believe Twilight got more metascore than BvS. That oughta tell you something about critics
That said all about critics....
mr.mzr yeah sure...ok. (facepalm)
it's still "dawn", right?
How can anyone take this clip seriously if the person in it said she loved fant4stic, pixels and gods of egypt =))
Ikr
why are you attacking the critics and everyone else for not liking a movie if the movie sucks it sucks ands if someone doesn't like it they don't have to like it you sounds like you are making excuses for this movie if this wasn't a DC movie and the critics and people hated it no one would care the problem is DC fans has a problem with any criticism about their movie
Yes this movie wasn't perfect but it was better Age of Ultron or Iron Man 3
or Thor 2 or or Iroman 2 and I would say antman but he doesn't even fit in a drama his movie felt like a romantic comedy
+TheBabullah but those movies have jokes so they get a free pass. Nobody is allowed to analyse those movies, especially the villains.
no im3 was good im2 and both hulk movies suck
+Starfire media -chris i meant thor
+Skyswindler ofcourse 100% the villians are ALL amazing how can we forget such classic characters
I understand you like the movie but to compare it to "The Shining" is just bit to much
Ikr
She's an idiot. The Shining is one of the greatest movies of all time.
+Worldwide Wyatt yea I went and saw it not on the level of the shining for sure
ryler05 not even on the level of the Shining TV mini-series.
Actually, the press didnt like the shinning when that came out either.
I find this hate very upsetting. "Batman v Superman" is the 2nd best superhero film ever released, topped only by "The Dark Knight" in my opinion. How does the world not see what I see? What you see? What should be seen? The opening weekend numbers put a smile on my face. I just hope next week's drop off isn't horrific.
+Ramster I'm afraid it will be
+Marcus Luera You don't have to or you don't want to? Of course you're allowed a different opinion but I have every right to question your opinion as well. People question the film. I question the people. People question me. It's how these things work.
Almost every thought I have is on display on my channel. If you really want, you can hear them for yourself. I respect you challenging me but I'm tired of constantly defending this film in comment sections. Lonely too.
We both want to defend lol. Our opposing cities would be so peaceful.
BVS will drop alot in the second weekend
Batman v Superman is the best superhero movie I have ever watched!
+MBVlogs Really?
+pionicor I liked it a lot too
Sometimes a bad film is simply a bad film. Granted a lot of work went into it, it just didn't translate well and I put that down to the jumbled script. Goyer first, Terrio stepped in and revised but it seems too much was missed in plot and too much was thrown in to expand on a universe just starting. They need to keep it simple, tell a stand alone story without grasping at potential storylines years down the track.
Grace, don't listen to all these mean comments, you worked really hard on this video and said things that need to be said and many people just can't handle that.
The sales of this movie is based on legacy and hype, we dont need a conspiracy theory to understand that
*Applauds loudly*
I like how she said that she wasn't going to impose her opinion on the movie but this whole video is her opinion. First off, I didn't like the movie cause it was a huge mess. There were a bunch of things I did like in it, but it wasn't drawn out in a cohesive way. We kept jumping from scene to scene and it didn't flow well together. And that combined with the enormous amount of stories and character motivation that didn't seem to make sense really didn't help the movie.
Plus I absolutely hated how batman contacts wonder woman and reveals all the justice league cameos through one email. Literally every single cameo. It was lazy writing and didn't even belong there. They could have done so much better and if they made it more focused and less jam packed then it could have been a good movie.
You earn yourself a Sub for this, the hate was just toooo much
I mean batman killed someone with a gun, and modern batman movie, based off of MODERN batman comics, including a comic where he says while breaking a gun, "This is the weapon of the enemy. We do not NEED it. We will not USE it." shows me that the writers and Snyder just didn't give a damn. That why people are angry.
I feel heartbroken for snyder, like wtf he put his heart and soul into this film for the comic book fan, some idiots from the press who think every superhero film should be funny is laughable at best. Snyder's visuals and metaphors were amazing, please keep him, can't imagine what this man is going through..
+TheBlackIndy Snyder hasn't made a good movie in a long time.
yes, his visuals are amazing (except for a few CGI distortions) but it's the plot and story that's lacking. they spent so much time trying to establish both Batman's and Superman's motivations and then fell back on a loved one in danger clique. lex luthor's motivation was also shite. batman killing, superman moping, Lois Lane and the daily planet being completely useless throughout the entire movie. but maybe that is not on Zach. maybe he was just given a crap script and he made the best of it.
+Xojzk12 He made man of steel, so that's a lie.
+eric peterson Lex Luthor's motivation, you mean wanting to not feel inferior but instead stand above him? Yeah cuz that's bad... It was even visually shown when he was standing above superman. The way they had lex luthor act was the problem but his motivation isn't, and batman has a good reason why and so does superman but at the end before they actually fought he put his hatred for him aside but batman kept angering him with misses and bombs so then superman tried to get in to listen.
Trevon The Arrow Man of Steel is no bueno.
I hope nobody is dense enough to believe that the studio made BvS "just for the fans". Do you realise how small the percentage of those fans are among overall moviegoers? If they only made the $250 mil movie for them they'll go completely bankrupt and its a fucking retarded decision anw.
Just consider that BvS may actually be a bad movie. I didn't have to think very hard to understand the movie and it's still way too easy to spot all the poor decisions and writing in the film.
Or consider the fact that art is never simple.
WB owns Rotten Tomatoes. Why would WB want its own movie to fail?
+osriccauldwyn
Wow, great statement. Bravo man.
I really liked this movie like a whole lot I don't understand the hate
+Kal Blaylo they are used to Marvel's standards
+Kal Blaylo "People hate what they don't understand..." - Martha Kent
It's okay.....Warner bros doesn't owe those critics a thing.
+Rxcketeer Ummm no, people don't like it because the script is a utter mess, there's no character development & motivations aren't clear, and it's just a overstuffed mess overall that wants to be two movies at once, a sequel to Man of Steel, and a origin type film for Justice League. WB and Zack Snyder deserve the hate, they were lazy and tried to catch up to Marvel in one movie.
+Andrew Stover so Tru. if the had a great superman on screen and conflicting ideals. this movie would have worked. but when batman kills people and superman kills people. where is the moral dilemma?! its the reason I loved daredevil s2 so much. the punisher views vs Daredevil's made their conflict feel real and earned.
What perplexes me about Batman v. Superman is that I am a Frank Miller fan. And I religiously read his comic even Batman & Robin All Stars. So I saw that Batman and I liked it. It was essentially a highlight reel of DC lore and I didn't mind it. If you gave it a 7/10 I agree. I'm more of an 8/10 on this movie. But it shouldn't be a 33% metacritic score. I think if you're a sympathetic Marvel viewer or even a fan of it, this movie is not for you. It is humorless storytelling in DC and that's why a lot of us didn't mind. I can see critics who are into cinematography not liking. But I can't see any fan say this isn't true to the comic.
Compares BvS to horrible movies like Fant4stic and Gods of Egypt, blames it on a conspiracy.
I wonder how she is still a credible critic
The same way those Disney paid critics who were paid to shit on this movie are still credible.
+Jordan Belfort She's not credible, since she was fired by Marvel in like 2013 I think, so now she trashes them lol
+whfmantis They weren't paid. You just can't take another person's opinion.
+whfmantis You're an idiot. No one was paid. This is just DC fanboy hyperbole bullshit to try and account for the fact that BVS sucked.
+whfmantis not a critic and like both comics, but Civil war is better than BVS.
Grace, I m usually on your side, but this time you are really just wrong. Yes if you liked the movie, thats a personal opinion. BUT you of all people cant deny that it has sooooo many flaws, so lazy writing and such an awful pace. And if you look at most of the RT reviews, they re mostly mixed, but bc of the A / B voting, most of them are rotten reviews. Most of them arent just hating on this movie, they just see its deeply flaws. This movie was rushed and poorly excecuted and had clearly many suits manipulating it. You need to face those facts.
The movie was a solid 8.5/10; it was well written, well directed, and well acted with plenty of interesting reveals and character moments. I wonder how many people truly hated the film and how many people are just groupthinkers joining the hate train.
Ultimately, it's frustrating that people make it their personal mission to ruin the success of a film that they have no interest in because it poses a competition to their favorite studio. 😡
She isnt even one sided, she admits the movie has its flaws but its still a good movie. All you BvS haters are proving that her theory is right.
She's been fired from Marvel, praises everything DC does while constantly nitpicking everything that marvel does. Go through her Kate's trailer vids and come up with the conclusion on your own, but one sided is definitely the phrase id use when talking about Grace
I think the second weekend box office is more telling. People were going to see this movie the first weekend no matter what. But with such a large percentage of the audience falling off, that's what really tells you how people felt about the film.
Watching the movie the second time was much more enjoyable. After reading all the reviews I went to the theater expecting to hate the movie like I hated Batman and Robyn, and I too much did not like MoS although I though it was OK. As I was watching BvS I notice it was very entertaining and the story flowed just fine to me. I loved it, the more it went on, suspenseful, easter eggs, and than action pack. I asked myself what movie did these critics see? The second being free from those critics in my mind I loved it even more.
I do not mind critics being critical of any movie. But some of these critics were taking this too personal. When some critics said things like leave it to Marvel or try to be like Marvel they have hidden bias. It is as if they were trying to destroy the newly constructed DC cinematic universe. Lets leave all the super hero moves to Marvel. For that they can kick rocks.
batman vs superman is and will always sell...its like when britney spears finally poses nude in playboy or whatever magazine it will sell. just because people are curious
I agree... if they say bat v sup is bad, then put the new starwars as the worst.
+Arthur Christopher Sienes Holy crap we are on the same page- see my comments above Arthur
Grace, I don`t know why I haven`t subscribed to you yet, I`ve seen many of your reviews and I`ve liked them all. But you absolutely won me over with this level headed and reasoned video. Hugs to you!! :)
Dude I felt the exact same way after watching this video.
box office doesn't mean jack shit. box office didn't match RT score for the transformers and the twilight series as well. I'm not a fucking critic, i paid money to go watch it and this movie has so many obvious problems which i do not need to repeat .some good visuals and well shot action sequences cannot redeem this movie.BATMAN and SUPERMAN(with SPIDERMAN being a close third) are without an argument the two biggest/most well known superheroes in the world. So it's not a mystery that this movie is making money, and of course everyone is going to watch this movie, not just comic book nerds. It's such a big property !
Also I've noticed that it's the so called Fanboys that defend a lot of the Bullcrap in this movie, she argued that Fanboys feel they have power so they hate on Batman v Superman,
Which really doesn't make too much sense, money speaks louder, and it was the Box office flops that caused Pixels and Fant4stic to not get a sequel,
Not critical outcry, she debunked her own point, Transformers always get shitty reviews but they always make money,
It's about the money labowske, so yeah they will make another one and nobody is self diluted enough to actually believe that reviews matter more than money.
Zebronel touché... very well said... she didn't make any sense whatsoever
Rotten Tomatoes' scoring system sucks. The movie is on a 30% rating despite the average score being 5.1/10. It should be 51% rating. That 30% just means 30% of critics who watched the movie liked it...which is a bullshit rating system. Here's why - If you say a 7/10 rating counts as "liking" a film and 100% of critics give it that rating, then the movie will be rated 100% on RT despite it only being a 70% movie. Do you get what I'm saying? Thats why Zootopia is a 99% right now, despite the fact that the average score is 8/10. The rating system either inflates the scores or makes it seem worse than it is. A lot of people say they would give the movie a 5/10....well thats what it currently actually is on Rotten Tomatoes. Go on it now, the average score is 5/10. It should be rated 50% then, not 30%. RT should change this because it really is quite a terrible rating system. The rating should be the average rating from critics to give a much more accurate depiction of how good or bad the movie is
Zootopia is 99% because of the story it tells which deals with racism, discrimination and stereotypes. If you read the audience reviews, you would see that some disliked the heavy subjects it had and did not have a lot of jokes and other normal cartoon content.
Prince Windsor That's not the point I'm making. The 99% means 99% of critics liked the movie - it doesn't mean the average score is 9.9/10. Which is misleading. It's inflating the actual average score, which is 80%. Because of RTs bullshit rating system, the movie has a 19% higher rating than it should. And Batman v. Superman has a 20% lower rating than it should
BvS had some problems/holes. They need to release the extended R-rated version.
Just saw the Communion deleted scene, I don't understand why they took that out and kept that cheesy Kevin Costner scene.
I'm still a fan.
comparing BvS with a SK film is just ridiculous....
I agree with your points Grace. I really loved and enjoyed this film.
I went into BvS ready to hate it and make fun of it due to all the criticism it got and its incredibly low ratings. Surprise surprise, I really enjoyed it. It definitely had its problems, and it's easy to get confused especially if you don't read comics, but it's definitely a huge improvement from Man of Steel, which I was a movie that I didn't think was very good.
All 3 heroes; Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, were wonderfully cast and wonderfully executed. I could definitely see the Justice League in them. Ben Affleck's Batman is probably my favorite Batman on the big screen. I feel like there's so much to him that they must be setting up a prequel that expands on how he became so cruel, as even the promo comics explain that he wasn't always like this. Wonder Woman was just epic. The greatest fighter in the DC universe really showed her stuff and made me very excited for the WW movie coming out next year.
And let's not forget the actual Batman vs Superman fight. Batman may have won, but they gave Superman all the justice he needed in that fight, throwing Batman around effortlessly like a rag doll and making it clear that Batman would've been destroyed if Supes wasn't so merciful, a trait that Batman adopted by the end. I thought the fight was handled perfectly.
Grace, there's a fifth reason. The movie is a jumbled mess. Even lots of people who liked it will admit that. There are dropped plot lines, pointless plot lines (looking at you, Lois Lane) and a performance by Jesse Eisenberg that is very off putting for a lot of people. Just because people don't like a movie that you like doesn't make them bias.
Exactly what i was thinking
Sorry Grace but honestly BvS was just a bad movie. WarnerBros were smart that they had a worldwide release.
The film had a few good moments, but was largely just a boring film, overly long (how many dream sequences were there?) and the ending wasn't good IMO. The best thing about this movie was Wonder Woman, and she had around 5 lines. -_-
Think the drop 81% drop in its second week is a better reflection of how the movie was received opposed to the opening. People pre ordered tickets, plus the DC fans and they hype all mean people were going to see it. I personally only go to see 3 movies a year at best and feel like I wasted my money, and a lot of people feel that way.
thats your opinion which isn't a fact, the movie was good not great but good
+Gods_Gift90 the 81% drop in the second week is a fact, though. and it shows that the general audience doesn't like the movie.
Gods_Gift90 Just incase you weren't aware 'IMO' means in MY opinion. So hey im aware this is my opinion LOL.
'the movie was not great but good' - erm also just so youre aware this is also your opinion xD
Seriously I dont understand all this defending the movie and coming up with excuses... How are DC going to make better movies when they didn't learn from the last superman movie...
Warner Bros should really get some of the writers from their current animated movie universe. (I get that they are different mediums but the animated movies are amazing!)
Want to see a good justice league movie, Justice League: War, I couldnt recomend it highly enough. Hell, 'Son of Batman' was so good I went out and bought Damian Wayne introduction and following comics after only really hearing about him second hand.
BvS being a bad movie has NOTHING to do with Marvel but everything to do with WB/DC and Zack Snyder. And, the worldwide gross of movies can be misleading because some international markets can open at the same time, later or even earlier than U.S. does. BvS had markets overseas open earlier than usual because of the buzz and hype over the film.
+mali mall Batman v Superman made Hans Zimmer quit the super hero business
The problem, is that the vast majority of people who saw this movie are not DC Comics fans. They tend to be the casual moviegoer, or folks who grew up watching these heroes on TV and were shocked by what they saw. That, and they're so used to the upbeat and not as dark tone of the Avengers and X-Men. As a DC fan, I love the movie, and can't wait till Suicide Squad is released. I'm hoping that film will excite audience members into appreciating the DC Universe more.
+Yusuf Evans
Not having a thorough familiarity of DC comics is not the problem. I really like the movie and I can count on two hands the number of issues of DC comics that I've read. Most of my fandom for Batman came from the 1990s animated series and the Michael Keaton/Tim Burton version.
+Yusuf Evans No, I'm sorry people hated this movie because this movie was shit. You can make an excuses you like, so far we've had people blaming casuals, some blaming fanboys, others blaming critics. Fact is that most people disliked this movie, they thought it was a shitty movie, because it is. No amount of not being, or being a fan is going to change that fact.It's writing is bad, it's cinematography is bad, it's musical score is bad, it's thematic direction is bad, it's actor selection was bad, it's complete lack of a plot is bad.
Another "nerds were able to move Hollywood hands" and "reviewers are paid by Disney" conspiracy theory.
+smokebomb.exe this chick is the biggest imbecile in TH-cam
"press shouldn't have alterior motives"
Wait wait WAIT. ...you mean the press should be unbiased and objective as possible in an effort to better inform the people!?! ...you're talking crazy talk lady! :P
All joking aside, thank you for saying that. It's a shame when people have to be reminded of what the original point of their job was
grace denial isn't really that good of an idea to use for this movie
Wow so the majority of us recognize that this movie isn't good and that is somehow a conspiracy.
In fact, the majority of fans according to even Rotten Tomatoes, did enjoy the movie. Your hatred is transparent. It does not make you a winner for your tribe.
DoctorSax Yes I hate this movie, and so do many others. I wouldn't care if I was the only one who did since I seem to be in the Minority of people who hated DK rises. Lol what tribe?
+DoctorSax Most of the positive reviews which pushed the rating initially high were added from people who hadn't even seen the movie. Once everyone was able to chime in, the audience rating went constantly down. Currently it is, I think, at 69%, which is lower than even Man of Steel has.
Wow this is some expert level denial over here
The problem with the internet, is too many people rely on it. BvS was a pretty good movie, and the majority of people who didn't like it, already went their with preconceived notions thanks to those reviews, or their own prejudices. I understand there were some confusing moments, along with WTF moments as well. However, the actual story was pretty good. The problem with comic book movies, is people aren't used to a story being told; they're used to tons of action, comedy moments, and nothing really deep or complex about it. This movies was really deep, and very human in its approach and that's what threw a lot of people off from it. You go to a superhero movie, especially one involving Superman, and expect to see some sort of vibrant, American pie type character.
I came here from ComicBookCast video.. :)
Same XD
Action was 5/5
Plot was 2/5
5+2 = 7
7/10
Action should not decide if a film is good. If so, Michael Bay would be the greatest filmmaker of all time.
+Ades Fish I would actually give plot 3/5, maybe even 3.5/5. It is the editing that damaged it, in my view. After all, almost half an hour of the movie were cut at the last minute... Will have to see that final 3h version to be sure.
The Marvel Netflix shows (Daredevil/Jessica Jones) hit a dark, adult tone perfectly.
BVS didn't.
+atlg8or6137 they dont have 300 critic's
just your opinion
+Callum Traynor
Sure they do. Television critics are real. They're just not all corralled at Rotten Tomatoes. And most love Daredevil because it's quality entertainment -- strong characters, writing, acting and fight choreography. GREAT fight choreography. And isn't that what the people who liked Man of Steel wanted from a new Superman? MORE PUNCHING!
+Christoper Bacani No shit, Sherlock
+Callum Trainer Rotten Tomatoes also gathers critic's reviews of TV shows. Season 2 of Daredevil is at 74%. Jessica Jones is at 93%.
Love this review. This my first comment ever on anything. I think you hit this right on the head. I been watching reviews and it seems like these critics wanna say it good but they have an alternative agenda and say the movie sucked gets them views or clicks and they wanna sway opinions. I've been watching collider and loved the channel then listening to them rag about BvS for not really any justifiable reasons or for minor things make me disappointed. I've subscribed to your channel as you are truthful and not a hater for the sake of being a hater. Keep up the great work and I'll definitely be a full time watcher from now on thanks for telling both sides.
I don't dislike this film because it wasn't what I wanted (technically I do because I wanted a good movie), I dislike it because I legitimately think it's bad. To me, there was a lot of potential wasted and I believe this could have been done a lot better. I say this as a fan of the comics and someone who knows the comics. It's NOT because of the tone or because it wasn't like Marvel movies, I've been seeing that excuse a lot and I'm sick of it already.
Exactly how I feel.
great Grace, love your insight! !!
why not instead of giving the press cocktails and expensive trips, they just make a good movie.... sounds logical, yes?
+Something Deadpool Didn't work here.
Come on now Grace. You considered every possible rationalization in order not to face the actual claims being made by the critics. Now, I don't think the movie was quite as bad as they all said and I am not a fan of movie critics in general. But you've seen a lot of movies. You specialize in them. I'm sure if you look deep within yourself, you can see how people thought it was very uneven, poorly paced, poorly characterized, overloaded, and riddled with nonsensical and superfluous plot points. On a second viewing, I realized how best to describe my experience of watching it: it's like seeing all the footage that had been recorded for a truly great movie, which was then put together by someone who had no idea what they were doing.
On the other hand, "Star Wars episode I: The Phantom Menace" made over a billion dollars. We were stuck with two more craptastic films after that.
Hi Grace --- the Chracter (Steppenwolf or Darkseid; whoever it was ) dissolved because he was a Kryptonian hologram projected by the ship. If you re-watch it, you'll see that the ship likely created that image. Luthor, seeing that he'd lost the battle, asked the ship who could beat the metahumans. The ship "made the call" and Steppenwolf (or Darkseid) picked up the phone and they started chatting. But, clearly, that being had entered Luthor's head. If you look at the pool, it's filled with blood (or "afterbirth"), so Doomsday had already hatched. Think about it -- the Ship told him that it had the knowledge from over 100k worlds.
Rotten tomatoes = Rotten reviews
+wildevil BvS = rotten movie
do you have your own mind or do you eat, sleep, shit, rotten tomatoes?
I don't know why I ever bother to click on these videos. You never know what you're talking about.
+CommanderCorner Hate watching has a certain inscrutable appeal. Grace is by far the worst critic on TH-cam!. If she likes a movie, I know it's going to be awful; if she doesn't like it, I know it's either fun or a potential classic. I mean she liked 50 Shades of Grey and disliked Inside Out. I have no idea why she has so many subscribers.
I saw the Batman v Superman yesterday and I really liked it. :)
She literally thinks the move was 100% good with nothing wrong with it
+Johnny Sparks Strawman
No she didnt did u even watch the video
You didn't watch the whole thing did you....? 14:31
False. Where did you hear that?
All I could keep thinking was "no, no, no, no, no, no"
+Coblajo Then you're wrong
An opinion cant be wrong.
BvS was a bad movie end of discussion. It was a contrived mess of a film. There is no conspiracy.
And you touched yourself after seeing Deadpool. Am I right?
+DoctorSax I did actually. Thank your mum for sending me those pictures.
the movie was very good it deserves 7.5 or 8.
+Shubh Sharma 5
+Shubh Sharma 8 - 8.5 for sure :)
karthikeyan gamerz That's right bro. Right indeed.
+Shubh Sharma I know, thus was a really ambitious movie xD
Also critics don't even like each other let alone conspire together
+JamesMitchell451 They do karma train and try to outdo each other though. Writing a good thoughtful review is both difficult and doesn't net you much press.
Writing abject vitriol gets you a money making anti-fan base.
I think some of you guys feel threatened by the fact that she's making logical sense and she's a woman let's be real.
+hilyfe01 So you're dismissing someone else's opinion because you think they're dismissing her because she's a woman? Aren't you doing the same thing?
+Alekka Cosmos I think he's trying to get across that comic books and video games are still perceived as "boy territory" and some "fanboys" get extremely butthurt when a lady puts forward an opinion that doesn't match with theirs. Albeit, conveyed very well.
+hilyfe01 This video never analyzes why the critics gave the reviews they did by examining the content of most reviews. If she had, then she would find that many reviews were mixed and for good reason. Her explanation for why the critics gave the reviews they did was almost a conspiracy theory. This theory never brought up any of the arguments given by people who gave the movie negative reviews, so all that is left is what she personally feels is the reason for the bad results of this movie. Even though she said she would leave her personal opinion out. That is mostly why I disagree with her on this and anyone who would share this argument regardless of gender.
I'm glad you mentioned appreciating the effort, it's clear that they didn't half-ass the movie. They didn't play it safe and took an artistic leap of faith, and for some viewers it paid off, but for others it didn't, however that doesn't mean it deserves the vitriol it is receiving.
So...we aren't even going to consider that it's just a bad movie? Maybe it's possible for a Hollywood studio to produce a film that is subpar in multiple ways, and audience don't want to see? You know, X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Batman & Robin, All Fantastic Four movies, Elektra, etc. No, I guess that's impossible. Hear me now, quote me later. This movie is not going to make it to $800 million, and it won't be because million of people across the world decided to twirl their mustaches and get that bright eyed DC comics.
I agree, DC fanboys think there's a conspiracy, but maybe it's just a bad movie with it's convoluted plot, no character development or motivations, and narrative & pacing issues.
Grace, I don't think people wanted fun/jokes/lightness in this movie. Christopher Nolan destroys that argument. BvS was marketed very much as a dark film; including tone and visuals. But what people want is a coherent film. A film with substance. A film with a solid hold on itself. BvS just didn't have that.
Thank you. Dark lighting and brooding doesn't equate to sophistication. In fact it's incredibly childish to portray the world as dark and gritty. While that does exist it isn't without the joy
+Blake Johnson yeeeeah, that's not really how reality works though
+LKVideos what the joy?
+Jacob Whitfield Man of Steel was blasted for not being humorous like the Reeve movies and WB caught flak for their "no jokes" mandate. Some people wanted BvS to follow the Marvel formula.
+Han Solo That's bull. If you market a movie as serious and dark and gritty and have jokes few and far between, it won't work.
Go watch Deadpool . Now watch BvS. Compare. And You will see why BvS is criticized. It is not about the tone of movie. It is about movie being a horribly written. People want to see good stories. Complete stories that are consistent. BvS does not deliver that. Like Fantastic Four reboot It feels stitched from bits. Deadpool was non linear story teller , but it was flowing. BvS does not have that flow. But You are not bothered by that . Your only goal is to defend movie companies.
True but the action makes up for that. The movie was great i think he should of got 65 to 80 on rotton tomatoes
+mohamed dahcheh why do you care about the action if there is no emotion behind due to a poorly written script?
+Marek Barycz You are comparing apples to oranges. They are two completely different movies and genres. Both are superhero movies, but one is a comedy and one is a drama. One is DC and one is MARVEL. DC is not as "funny" as MARVEL. You look at some DC story lines like "The Killing Joke" and "A Death in the Family" and you would never see something that dark and disturbing in MARVEL. I think critics were going to trash this movie no matter what happened. If it was funnier, they would have called it a MARVEL rip off. If it was serious, they would want it to be funnier.
+mohamed dahcheh Action, emotion, and great storytelling go hand in hand. You don't have one of them, the movie doesn't work.
If the movie was good, it would have been rated well. Don't buy into the conspiracies. Even the studio that made it had no faith in it since they released in march.
Interesting conspiracy theory video. However, most people could care less what critics or fan boys have to say. Pixels, Fantastic Four, and Gods of Egypt were horrible movies and they failed at the box office because people decided to stay away. In the case of BvS, the movie itself is critic proof, and people are going to see it no matter what the reviews have to say. Warner Bros. and Zack Snyder have every right to make their DC cinematic universe as they see fit, but the movie going audience and fanboys have every right to speak their minds without being called a bunch of haters.
+Cybercowboy115 Couldn't*