Schizophrenia: The Shattered Mirror Documentary Real Patients
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Documentary about Schizophrenia with real patients not actors. Publication date 1966.
The young man who is 27yrs old but felt 35, when asked why he felt like he’s 35 and not his age.
- his answer is because “it’s closer to death”.
In hoping that the next life time would be better than the current- broke my heart 💔
Mine too.
This has to be the most devastating mental illness. The hell of hate filled voices that you cant shut up or be the living dead on the meds. Sooo terrifying for those people and their families
This documentary is a gem ! I love the way it is presented in an ancient, yet well presented way. Renee is so absolutely beautiful and graceful ! I related to each patient in here and sympathize with their emotional torture !
Nice and respectful. These days into insects😂.
Very fascinating. Also extremely sad. Thank you for posting.
Interesting to see how schizophrenia was handled back then. The Rene woman was so pretty and graceful, I guess she wanted to be a ballerina more than anything else. And it's a treat to look at the fashions people wore at that time...yes, they did smoke a great deal.
Most Schizophrenics smoke a LOT.
These poor people have to struggle both with their illness and the charlatans "treating" it.
A old friend of mine who passed away a few year's ago had Titnus. His hearing issue got progressively worse over time. I had never heard of this illness beforehand and was unsure as how to broch this with him. He explained best he could. Because of my ignorance of how this was effecting him personally I became insensitive. I would try show him how ridiculous all this was, to him it was real. That's when I became intolerant at time's. It went from him describing it like a white noise in his ears to him believing that his flat was being bugged by next door neighbours . It got progressively worse over time and very debilitating for him. He started to become unwell, he was having difficulty with other medical problems. Then he passed away I think from hear problems. Anyway I educated myself a bit more on this issue and now I don't think or act like I once did. I have understanding and empathy now. I'm no longer ignorent. I miss my friend big time because he was a good true friend. ❤️👊🌹
Tinnitus is an ear problem not a psychological condition. But, did you mean that it drove him crazy?
@@SharonBenson2674 I also was thinking she probably meant " Tinnitus" . But ppl don't die from just a hearing problem unless another element stems from the original issue. Psychological issues definitely can stem from medical issues AND vice-versa
but I'm guessing her friend may have already had unrelated problems both psychological and medical.
It's extremely common
Pray for him.
Yeah he described it to a T!
$1200 a month? Back then? The US healthcare system is itself insane.
uh, the fact that specialized in house psychiatric care is available at all where most of the world has zero.
@@elrikard7909 There are numerous countries around the world were it is available and free. Nowhere has enough beds though.
That was a Canadian hospital.
no wonder why people go crazy
Health care system is ludicrous
A person very close to me (relative) had this disorder for about 3-years. And then, it went away (for the last 11-years). He has a very high IQ (physicist/university professor), and explains this disorder like this: We all experience the chaos of the unconscious when we sleep and dream. Now, imagine that when you awaken, the dreams continue unabated. So, you have two dialogues going on at the same time. He says he knew the "delusions" were fake and he was able to compensate with the conscious mind ... but, sometimes the "dreams" became intense. He's writing a book: The firewall between the conscious and unconscious mind fails in the person with schizophrenia. "Monsters of the Id?"
What an interesting description
Very unlikely that their symptoms just disappeared overnight. However, there are people who can control mild symptoms just by therapy (or the self-talk equivalent).
@@linusp9316 Also true ...
@@linusp9316 I can only report on what he told me. But yes, symptoms did not disappear over night. They did, seems to fade away. He's a young professor and lives at my home near the university. He seems normal for the last several years. So far, so good! Our psychiatrist friend says that he's unlikely to have another episode because the symptoms did not develop as a young child. Nicely, he can recognize the symptoms and get help immediately. Strangely, his episode seems to have increased his cognitive ability and intelligence.
Sounds like Schizophreniform Disorder
So sad watching the 27 year old guy answering questions...and watching others closed off... looking lost and paranoid....what a horrible illness
“I am I, who are you?” 😂 These ‘doctors’ are crazier than all the ‘crazy people’ combined! Who am I? I AM INFINITE CREATION! ✨💜✨
I wish they could see what is happening now
Its an impairment in the prefrontal cortex. I have a family member with this issue who has overcome huge obstacles in life. It is heart breaking and its really not that funny. This film was made in the 60s before the proper medication was even discovered or produced. Attention deficit disorder hadn't even been studied yet. Many films were still in black and white. Keep watching these documentaries and you may find some compassion .🙏
Especially the ones in public health! I was on Prozac for a few months, but I kept running fevers. I asked him about it but he blew me off, saying it must be menopause. I got my hands on a copy of the PDR, and sure enough, fever was one of the side effects. I'm going around with a 102.6F temp, and he's saying it's menopause. Hot flashes don't cause fevers, any way.
The doctors get paid, the patients get activities but the meds arent usually so optional.
Put the normal guy doing T or F cards on meds.
Take a closer examination then.
@@melaniemaniscalco2060 side affects is a big hush.
There's put more in the development to counteract side effects of the medications than the medications themselves.
Alot of problems occur from poor diets that lead to neural deficiencies.
Then it's whammied by anti psychotics for indefinite periods of time.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing .
It's quite painful without meds. I get agitated. As for the mind, it's like not being on the same channel as everyone else. I find most people to be boring and weird, like animals on a grassland. Their brains work differently than mine. They can become complicated, but they mean nothing.
Excellent visual.
Well done.
Stay strong! Happy to hear you're getting help and keeping on going.
How are you doing today?
No. Nothing is boring but this boring comment😂
NET (National Educational Television), which produced this documentary, was the predecessor to PBS.
The 27 year old man. I had to stop watching it. I pray so hard that life got better for him. There are no words. The despair.
There are other interviews with this person that you might be able to find. It was a surprise to see him in this as it was a while ago that I listened to and watched the others. I learn more about things I’ve experienced and humans in this state from the older information.
Once again the shrinks are very very strange people
Theyre the craziest
Then you wonder: a). How much of this is congenital? and b). Is any of this caused by pollutants in the environment?
I've seen people suffering, from pain, disease, injury. Some self inflicted, some of no fault of their own. When I did my rotation through psych it changes how you see ppl. You treat ppl suffering from depression, dissociative disorders, eating disorders, paranoia, PTSD, psychosis, schizophrenia and OCD. Un medicated, some of these people admitted are subject to a level of suffering that I just can't comprehend.. They can't run from it or console themselves by rubbing the painful area like if you were in physical pain. It's a feeling of helplessness that I couldn't get past. I chose emergency medicine for a number of reasons. I tip my hat to the psyche nurses. They're angels.
My nephew is 27 and he has it. I love him so much and enjoy his company even though he talks crazy most of the time.
We humans are an enigma to ourselves. 'Normal' people are those that manage to live in their own self-deception that everything is just fine,until some trauma breaks through. Self-honesty is a great virtue and also a great danger. The well-functioning,productive member of society also has a robust, healthy system of psychological defence mechanisms to hold at bay the existential terror of being in this absurd world.
That's a different issue to psychosis. It's not a matter of your sense of meaning or purpose, but of actively experiencing a reality that doesn't align with facts (e.g. hallucinations or delusions, extreme paranoia, etc.). Those are things that can be treated at the same time as depression or whatever other problems that come with lack of motivation or purpose. But it's a distinct thing.
These doctors are devoted. It’s nice to see
People endure all sorts of deprivation without complaint. Then it overwhelms. Trauma. Neglect. We had no empathy in our family. Years later am last alive. People are not mad. But the things they endured at the whims of family can rob a person of the will to live.
@Kim.......I So Very Much Agree 💯💯💯👍🏾
Fantastic documentary
Fascinating.
Schizophrenia is an illness that causes patients very disorganized thinking. I feel great empathy for them. My borderpoler neurosis is nothing in comparison to this.
Fascinating really.
I am I , who are you? This parroting in the way they presented it sounds crazier than the patient s . That didn’t seem to be helping as far as I am concerned.
So very sad. I think I know someone in my family that suffers from this disorder but they can’t talk to me about it.
Seriously??? Get them to a hospital, they font recognize they r mentally ill, they cannot care 4 themselves, schizophrenia is a brain disorder, not " illness"" not curable, like mh disorders.
Was René an inspiration for Black Swan?
I wonder why it takes them along time to answer - he is really thinking about his answer.
Maybe because he's processing or has an analyctic personality? Deep thinker.🤔
Renee's "small bare room" would probably be $1400 a month today. Lol
Double that.
Just realized that the voice over guy is the same as in Woody Allen's 'Take the Money and Run" :)
I guess the cure is a conga line.
What ever happened to Renee? I havent watched the whole video yet. In 1966 she was early 20s, so now she would be 80.
More likely now she is six feet under the ground or a collection of ashes in the ocean
Renee could have easily be treated with medication
These “therapists” or psychologists, whatever, saying they can’t even imagine that. (What the patient is describing) That’s so Not helpful. And pretty sad that these therapists really have no imagination. 🤷♀️
Rene was beautiful!
A lot of these older mental health shows from the 60s actors and actresses
Looks like maybe what is now the A/C/E 8th Avenue line at 14th Street in the dancer’s segment around the 5-6-min mark.
15 mins in the young 27 yr old his answer that's sad 😥
Wow 1200 a month was a lot back then. “A world of my own, I’ll make it my home sweet home”….Steely Dan
This documentary speaks volumes, to me. The mirror can never be shattered.
Those people are not sick.
They are only made to believe they are sick/ mentally disordered.
They are moded.
Extrasensory modes, expanded awareness modes , visual reconstruction modes, expanded conciousness modes, claircognisation modes, time dilations modes, remote viewing modes , precognition modes ...
What a waste. They were never given the opportunity to get hold of it all.
It takes a year to properly get hold of a mode.
I feel so sorry for those marvellous people, for they pay the painful modes penalties , without even holding the modes.
Like a child that constantly falls, without ever learning to walk/soar.
So sad.
It is why those with mental disorders are usually the most beautifully spoken people. Their humanity is golden but they don’t fit
You are precisely correct 💯
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You all sound crazy. These people are getting help because of the distress they go tb3in their lives, not because of their supposed abilities.
Also documentaries will interview the most articulate ones, for obvious reasons. Not all of them are particularly intelligent.
vodka & ignorance seems to be the best way for me
People treated Schizophrenics as if they are stupid, the opposite is usually the case.
Schizophrenia patients are typically found to have low IQ both pre- and post-onset, in comparison to the general population. Find another way to not feel sorry for them, friend
@@TAROTAI they schew the dat that's what they want you to believe. They wanna cover up truthes
@@TAROTAI No, it’s the opposite, most schizophrenics have a high IQ. They are well-educated and intellectual. Have you never seen “A Beautiful Mind” about John Nash, a brilliant mathematician who suffered from Schizophrenia?
Not being Religious.. But in the Bible it says that losing the way and striving for a way to be guided in life, is what it's like being without God.. but being saved by God, allows what is called the Holy Spirit to enter a persons mind and slowly help a person back to their path and purpose.. It's just Fascinating !!
Yeah, you're definitely not being religious. Definitely not.
Seriously dude, the godly ways
Overall id say its a matter of chance, not to develop some serious mental illness
you should read the book of Ezekiel
@@seedofabraham8284 Thank you :-)
19:00 Bit of a presumable question seems to me, should at least be followed up with a "does that bother you much or little to nothing" (or something along those lines).
12:24. Sheldon's first acting gig.
Lack of good sleep can cause a lot of problems in the human body and mind !!!
I like these ladies. it's like, "Who am I?" Which demon. "I am I."
Or so walking opened air city blocks and feel a spider's web crawl across your face as your walking to through a invisible space.
It is so sad that this young man in New Jersey wants to be ten years older.... because the age is closer to death. I pray that people with mental challenges, overcome their inner demons .Doctor's never look on the spiritual side of "madness." DEMONIC POSSESSION should also be studied.
Yes, glad to hear someone else has thought this! There is that possibility. Doctors would not even consider this. Maybe if they were believers in God. Then again, would they be able to express this? They would soon be shunned from the medical field. Any dabbling in the games of sorcerey, horoscopes, ouiji boards, false god idols. Lots of friends have told me weird things!
Agreed! I was thinking the same. Maybe these people’s energy is special and they’re easily vulnerable to evil demonic spirits.
But of course we don’t know, however nothings wrong with exploring different options.
EVERY person should have Every vitamin, mineral, hormone, deficiency tested for in ther body. copper and B12 also create such nightmares to tge human body. Doctors are not taught health, but just to push the norm of the drug copanies $$. not saying that this is causing anything, but it Should be a starting point.
Totaly agree with you!!!!
I tried to protect my family when he came after me in Virginia, the one who followed me onto the psych ward (God can be pissed, as he said), and the people who chased me into the bathroom. No morals, no protection. I can't even confess to my "sins." BTW, that's a curse that often isn't carried out. We can protect ourselves with values because it's a scary world and bad things can happen if we don't care.
Again , WTF you babbling on about
Makes no sense, I guess you relate to the video way more than anyone else ... hence why absolute no sense is made
@@brooklyn012345 Nice job. Maybe its someone suffering with schizophrenia trying to communicate with other people? You put them back in their place. "Back in your hole!"
There is always a wrench in the system. I have found a lot of sufferers of schizophrenia who are afraid to believe that it is spiritual. I don't mention strong words to describe what's going on because that will cause more harm than good. I try to explain it's not demonic, but they don't understand, therefore don't bother to research Swedenborg's writings or OTLE's videos and Podcasts.
Then there's the real possibility that if they do come to understand then their afflictions will become worse, for awhile, as the evil spirits battle for control.
I haven't mentioned that part to them, yet. It is important to understand the "3rd Phase" and know everything from A to Z, so they can learn to battle and get it under their control. Not the voices. 🙏❤️😁✌️
Oh Holy fuck at the end
Renee is so beautiful.
Rene is so beautiful
i wonder what happened to her..
Yes.....her hair must have been beautiful when it was let down.....i tried to tell the color of her eyes....i think they were blue.
The Doctor at the end was uncomfortably close to that shelf.
LOL, you weren’t kidding
@@slacktoryrecords4193, thank you for giving me one of the biggest laughs in years (and this is without doubt the most narcissistic thing I've ever said), at a joke I made!
I had zero recollection of what you/I was referring to, as it was a few years ago, so had to scan through the video. As it got nearer to the end and there were many bookshelves and many professors standing close to them... I still was unprepared for the closeness to come!!!
Cheers mate.
Do they have too much or to few dopamine?
Their Dopamine receptors are "miswired."
Good question!
That one guy looks like Steph Curry.
I'm annoyed at MM for exploiting me. I can't help it. We're hitched for better or worst. At least my version doesn't have saggy balls.
WTF you ramble on about ?????
pretty sure i seen johnny Knoxville in the congo line
It's educational but 😥
😞
If it's the money that's the problem, we can live in self-sufficient colonies. But leave it to humans to mess that up.
I know both
This is like the Twilight Zone.
The feature patient ran circles around the treating doctors auto suggestion.
This stems from what is conformity norm and whereby someone on a creative hook or emotional hick-up in life can just be exasperbated by the wholier than though mind theives through a crash course of what such scientists percieve as trends to differentiate abnormal from abstract from a gift to excel greater insight.
The big mistake is to act stupor in the interview.
20:15 This guy seems heavily medicated.
oh god its not fair by way im rachel x not shaun
Hi Rachel! ☺
Psychedelic advocate Humphrey Osmond may not have been the best person to accomodate these people.
Or WAS he?
Constant trip on acid gone wrong
Look, I’m not sure how much LSD you’ve taken, or the expereiences you gained or wish never happened during the “trips.” All I can do is respond with the knowledge gained by the many experiences I, and many people who I’m still in contact with today gained from LSD. I’ll express my feelings on, what you call, “constant trip on acid gone wrong.” I believe, I understand what you mean by that statement. In my experience, the closest feelings that mirror your statement, are, for example, times when LSD was dropped and the dosage was extremly higher than expected, dangerously higher. And I remember after 18-hours, my pupils were black as saucer plates, covering the green, that, at that moment, I feared I’d never see again. My best friend, who, I considered a true shaman. From his many trips to Peru, to experience what the people of the amazon experienced when shapeshifting into their spirit totem’s. He stared at me and, without, saying a word. He looked like a Wolf, I remember, and inside my mind I asked, did we cross the barrier, did we go too far. He spoke, and gently said, everything’s okay, we took to much, that is all, we just took to much.
At around the 26-hour mark, I believe my friend could tell I was getting frightened, even after he kept telling me. “It will pass, I promise, we simply took too much.” And he did something very interesting, which brought me down. Turning on the TV, he set the remote to auto channel switch. And every time the NASA station came on, he’d say, “home”.
After about 7 or 10 times of the repeating channels and him telling me “home” when the NASA channel showed an image of earth, I slowly began to feel better, and better.
That was the lightest of 3 acid trips gone wrong. 😁 Your phrase is humorous, I just caught how much, now. Shit, I’ve forgot the point I was trying to make. Oh, right; I think you may have been being sarcastic or facetious, it’s hard to tell, by the phrasing of your statement. But if you weren’t being either of the former, I feel like telling you with 100% knowledge that these folks aren’t experiencing a lifelong acid trip, but there aren’t many documentaries (if any) that I’d give a 100% stamp of knowledge on. So I’ll have to go with my 99.9% stamp, that, these aren’t “constant trip on acid gone wrong.” Victims. If you took the time to read my post, I appreciate it. There was no ill will garnered in your direction. Take care of yourself, things are getting a little crazy out there.
@oktopustrainer Incase you’re not a troll, oktopussytrainer, then, the following sentences have been written for you. ☀️ & 🌈 🐂💨💩
Oh, piss off, you self-righteous acting, douchebag. But, before you do. Explain something. Who’re these, so-called "you people" you’re categorizing me with belonging to?
And as far as non-beneficial affects acid may cause, there are plenty. I believe those who have undiagnosed mental disorders are most likely to experience negative affects from LSD, and psychedelics could also exacerbate underlying mental health conditions which haven’t surfaced in someone yet.
@@WinstonVanCoon Interesting. That is a VERY long trip you had. Good thing your friend was there to help you through. I've had to calm a few myself, while also on LSD. It isn't easy. You have to keep yourself calm in order to calm the other. As long as you know it'll pass, you're ok.
@@WinstonVanCoon I had friends and family if friends who permanently changed a lot after acid. Some of them dropped acid 60 or 70 times, but ironically, just like you, all of them are narcissists who truly believe there's nothing wrong with them and that they're smarter/more "open-minded" than anyone else while simultaneously being strictly opposed to any contrary ideas or opinions whatsoever.
Further ironically, the only people who get emotionally defensive about it and feel the need to defend lsd against such claims are the junkies who love using it.
Acid!!! Mk 12, mj 13
Girl at @11:29 looks like Kate Winslet
Why isn't the narrator out harassing Popeye and Olive Oyl?
Sounds nothing like him.
Damn, this video is almost 81-years old! And, I’m not sure if I’m the only one who feels this way, but there seems to be a decline in helping these patients. I understand, that, during this time period the medical community is perplexed at how to deal with schizophrenia, but group therapy classes, such as, "The dance therapy class,”. Where, the patients say, “I am I?” “Who are You?” Would make those suffering an extreme low, feel even worse.
And the, I expect, Psychologist? Who’s having each patient read cards and place them in a true or false box, I guess, is trying to learn how the schizophrenics mind processes each true answer? Although, the guided hand technique, when the Dr., tries to change the patients mind from their original answer, would only agitate the patient, in my opinion. Plus, it made the test seem extremely subjective. I didn’t like that, or the dance, at all. However, as far as I know, maybe, I’m schizophrenic?
Everyone in this video is dead by now. Those who suffered from schizophrenia, I hope wherever your mind went after death is someplace loving and peaceful. But, maybe quietness, and eternal dark sleep would be what you'd want, who knows? And, to the Psychologist, I have a FEW questions for YOU, now, answer QUICKLY. “Is there life after death, quickly, true or false…hurry…” “TRUE”…”Explain life after death.”..quickly…..”UMM ..HEAVEN OR HELL”…”If you go to hell, will you sit in Satan’s lap.…answer quickly, please….hurry-up…”…”😭YES, OKAY, I’D SIT IN HIS LAP.”
Winston VanCoon : 81 years old? The description says 1966. I was born in 1965 and I can tell you I’m not anywhere near 80 yet!! And I’m certainly not dead yet.
@@redxpro1 😄 One second, it’s time to break out my fingers and recalculate this, old school, style. WHOA, I concur, sir, the production of this video is 53 years old, NOT, 81. And I’m very happy you’re not dead, in fact, your gas tank is still about half-full. So, I predict, you still have a long life to enjoy!. Live long, live well. And thank you for bringing my math miscalculation to attention.
It isn't a "dance therapy" class. She's studying on her own to be a dancer. It isn't something being done through the hospital. I'm curious about her fate.
@@linusp9316 I appreciate it when someone points out a mistake that they believe I've made. If I've written something that needs to be corrected, I apologize for any confusion, and correct what I've written. But I'm not correcting a damn thing this time. Sorry, Linus, but I'll break it down for you. You're confusing the ballet dancer, Renee, who practices ballet inside a private studio. With a room located inside a mental health hospital packed with patients who're participating in "Dance Therapy." Here's a time-marked link where the narrator says, "Through methods like dance therapy." th-cam.com/video/HDJUE18ZZ2I/w-d-xo.html I hope you understand now, that dance therapy, absolutely was a program offered through the mental health hospital.
Be honest, did you start having feelings for Renee? I thought she was very pretty, to be honest. So if you did too, its all cool. My intuition is leading me to believe you quit watching once the scenes with Renee were over? Because the "dance therapy" scene occurs less than 2-minutes after Renee's story. But what makes even less sense, is that I never mentioned Renee, once, inside my comment.
@@WinstonVanCoon You may need a bit of help yourself, my friend. Charming hypergraphia, but not a good sign.
Shock treatment is barbaric!
The hospital is in CANADA! Your blinded by hate. WAKE UP
I'm wondering if these are actors or real people are they on or off 🤓 antipsychotics
Thinking the same!
Poberly lithium and shock treatment
very sure old document...lie in wait for the shadows...only world greatest ambitious
Renee,you can make it pretty woman.
You are jealous, because they have biggers. James Hillman, "Revisioning psychology".
Dance therapy is also more bull shit
Ballerina is bueatiful with a sweet voice.She needs some eggs and grits and shell be good.
I'll tell you how to keep people sane, but it's just my opinion. You'll make them dumb as +censored+ if you do what you did to me or slavery of the mind, and you're making everyone crazy. Fear will destroy their minds. I begin to stupify. God is forgiving because we're blind and He gives us free will. I lack that but made my own +censored+ universe where everyone smiles, and I don't have to die for my demonic master.
Biggest thing is stigma lets change the name like they did in Japan..get to Doctors ..get medicine..get therapy ..get love from society
love from *whom* ? & who the hell is _society_ ? what planet are you living on with ineffectual therapy & love from your dutiful neighbour
This is not accurate.
1:33 the guidelines are all in the Word of God, the bible. 7:16 sounds like her parents knew more about the price everything than they did the value of anything. :( very sad.
No, religion does not cure schizophrenia. It would be nice if it were so easy.