Honestly if they would have won game 4 I think they would’ve won game 5. Remember it was even year 2016, they had Madbum and Gillespie was playing out of his mind.
As a diehard Rays fan, I've always loved Moore, was my second favorite Rays pitcher (behind Alex Cobb) and was always fun to route for. Sucks that injuries ruined his career. But he was a heck of a pitcher between 2010-2013 that's for sure
Really good video! Thought it'd be fun to check to see how he's doing in 2022 and he's killing it at this point in the season. 1.98 ERA in 50 ip And a 3.25 FIP. Glad to see that he's finally doing good again after a rough patch.
He did take the Pomeranz route he got back with Texas on a minor league deal and in 22 innings so far in 2022 he’s been pretty damn good with an ERA+ of 172. He’s a specialist now, not a starter.
@@mattc6015 yeah, but the injury bug is hitting us HARD atm. Morton still down, Kittredge and Poche seasons both over, Alvarado hurt (and bad), and now Nick Anderson is on the 10-day IL. Also, I'm mostly sad bc I grew up in the Moore era and desperately wanted him to succeed as a kid
Just discovered this channel, so glad to see one of the most popular videos is about my Rays! Classic Rays move to flip Moore for prospects, although it's unfortunate his injuries kept him from fulfilling the high expectations upon him
I watched him play with the Giants in the second half of 2016. In 2017, it was like seeing a totally different player, and unfortunately, not for the better. I think he peaked in the 2016 playoff start against the Cubs. He seemed to be a very nice guy and always wish him the best.
He had a good season in Softbank Hawks of Japanese professional league NPB. 6W3L 2.65ERA K/9 over 9 in 13 starts. Moore pitched in G3 of 2020 Japan Series with 7IP, 0H, 0ER. Hawks won championship in G4.
It’s because sliders and bad pitching mechanics not being addressed by coaches and teammates…sliders are the hot pitch of the century not they are hell on the elbow ligaments
As a Rays fan I watched as he was drafted. All the hype and looks of a top flight pitcher. We had an amazing rotation and he was supposed to be the crown jewel.
Actually Moore didn’t “elect” the surgery. It was a requirement of his contract the refusal of which would have seen him likely immediately released. How can I know that? Because that’s what Houston did to their badass closer Roberto Osuna when he opted not to have the surgery and take the “rest and rehab” approach. The Astros were paying Osuna 10 million dollars a year for that arm and were paying several million more in support staff for it. It’s crazy to think that you can sign a contract that essentially gives your employer rights to determine your medical care but, that’s MLB for ya;)
i thought i was missing something with matt moore the chiefs player. i thought you were gonna say eventually he gave up on baseball and went to football.
Delmon spent his prime on the twins. He physically had all the tools but mentally couldn't put it together. Struggled to hit the curve and was exposed as a terrible fielder
Tanaka never had Tommy John surgery. He opted to do rehab and never needed it. He basically continued to pitch on a string of an elbow ligament and was the ace of the Yankees pitching staff while doing it. IMO he was definitely worth his contract. Also; Tommy John surgery has success rate in the 80%ish range for major league pitchers. I do understand however that less than that come back with the same stuff they had before. However; Jacob DeGrom, Jose Fernandez, Luis Severino just to name a few have all recently had the surgery and have come back with no discernible difference in their pure pitch effectiveness. They all still have their velocity, spin, and break.
Matt Moore As of right now. 2019: Missed rest of the season. Posting a 0 era and 9 k’s 2020: Opted Out cause of Covid. 2021: Signs 1 year deal with Phillies. Doesn’t work well with a 2-4 record and a 6.29 ERA 2022 So Far: Moore looks like he’s good again but how long? Who knows. A 4-2 record with a 1.73 ERA before All Star Break is astounding. He looks to be the Matt Moore we waited for at last.
You were saying how his 2013 stats were much better than his 2012 stats, but how so? He had more wins, sure, but he pitched 27 less innings, had less K/9, and had more BB/9. Yes his ERA went down, but luck is a big thing in baseball
I remember them comparing his delivery to Stephen Strasburg's to show how you should throw the ball to not injure your arm. While Strasburg has been injured multiple times and never changed his delivery, he had a way better career than Matt Moore despite the delivery.
Back when I was in High School I was working on throwing a better curveball and I saw this video posted by the Charlotte Stone Crabs on TH-cam. It had very little views (maybe 3k-5k). But the video was of Stone Crabs Pitcher Matt Moore. His career might’ve not panned out like he hoped. But he taught me a NASTY Knuckle curve. Lmao
Seal of Approval yeah bro Alex Bergman lost his virginity to a family friend 😂 we live close to him in northeast abq. They’re rich af, his dads a huge attorney for abq
Seal of Approval and Mitch garver went to my highschool and my coaches never said one word about him while he was having an all star season😂 and his jersey is on our freaking scoreboard 😂
Matt Moore was a Great/Underrated Pitcher in his time but I personally believe he was way ahead of his time IMO... To anybody that’s watching this remember y’all, Keep Going & Be Safe 🤟🏾💯
You may never know. Maybe he can become the next Miles Mikolas who storm the major league after pitching in Japan. Also, there is a guy named Mike Minor who comeback from serious shoulder injury and ranked top 10 in Cy Young in 2019.
Calling it now, the Rays are going to become the AL version of the Cardinals: Small market team with the most bs farm system and a seemingly unending army of cy youngs
Rays are basically billy beanes moneyball team every year... but I wouldn’t say bs farm system rays basically traded away everything in the 10’s and now have the best farm system in league according to mlb.com and talent pipeline etc. but funny you mention the army of cy youngs considering 9 pitchers are injured right now and even with that they still manage to deal with Glasnow snell and cash basically pitching with relievers the whole game sometimes
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The problem has been there for decades. Pitchers with filthy stuff are told in the minors that they have great mechanics and that they'll have long careers when, in reality, they're obviously destroying their arms. Teams just gamble on getting a few good years out of young pitchers. After that, it's borrowed time. Maybe they can trade them before the damage catches up and get a little more for their investment...maybe not...fix the issue by cleaning up the mechanics and putting less emphasis on certain pitches and you lose the filthy stuff...
Matt even said in one of his interviews that he doesn't do it for money, he is trying to have fun while he still can, so yes I do feel bad cause baseball is America's pass time and he isn't able to experience that in the MLB, he did sign with a Japanese team but it's still not the same
I got his autograph....85% of people whose autograph I get become cursed. (Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, etc.). Sorry Mr. Moore I've since stopped collecting.
I didn’t know winning “Gatorade High School Player of the Year” and being drafted in the 8th Round out of High School classifies You as a “Hidden Gem.” Lol
In baseball being drafted in the 8th round and becoming a THE top prospect is very very very rare. In fact, he is probably the only guy drafted outside the top 2 rounds to ever reach such status.
I will also remember Moore’s performance against the Cubs which almost got us to game 5
As a cubs fan I was glad he was taken out
He already had like 110 pitches but our bullpen was worse than kimbrel last year
Honestly if they would have won game 4 I think they would’ve won game 5. Remember it was even year 2016, they had Madbum and Gillespie was playing out of his mind.
As a diehard Rays fan, I've always loved Moore, was my second favorite Rays pitcher (behind Alex Cobb) and was always fun to route for. Sucks that injuries ruined his career. But he was a heck of a pitcher between 2010-2013 that's for sure
Cobb and Moore are your 1,2 rays combo? No shields Garza kaz
Matt Moore’s Grandfather lives right across the street from me and I have been wondering where Matt a
Has gone since her played mlb
@@BAMCIS13450703 nah I'm more of a cobb Moore guy lmao
@@BAMCIS13450703 What about Price?
He just won a Japan Series with Fukuoka though, methinks his form is coming back
I’m from New Mexico and I’ve never even heard of this guy. It’s crazy a guy this good can be forgotten so quickly.
Don't forget him to quickly he was picked up by the Phillies 2021
I've been a Rays fan since birth, it was always so easy to root for this guy. Great video!
thanks!
You are young if you are a Rays fan since birth.
Lol so your crib and diapers had Rays logo on it..
He just signed with a Japanese team today
really? well, perfect timing
@@SportStorm23
With the Softbank hawks
Heyman tweeted it earlier today
Weird coincidence
Now he’s on the Phillies I think
Really good video! Thought it'd be fun to check to see how he's doing in 2022 and he's killing it at this point in the season. 1.98 ERA in 50 ip And a 3.25 FIP. Glad to see that he's finally doing good again after a rough patch.
He did take the Pomeranz route he got back with Texas on a minor league deal and in 22 innings so far in 2022 he’s been pretty damn good with an ERA+ of 172. He’s a specialist now, not a starter.
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SmittyC Baseball not the time for that.
Man he was dealing against the Cubs. That game still hurts
Thank God for that Bullpen lol
That game was certainly a gem. As a Cub fan, frustrations were increasing til the 9th.
As a Rays fan, after watching this I now have crippling depression
We don’t need him we go Snell
We've got some really good pitching right now so I wouldnt stress over it lol
@@mattc6015 yeah, but the injury bug is hitting us HARD atm. Morton still down, Kittredge and Poche seasons both over, Alvarado hurt (and bad), and now Nick Anderson is on the 10-day IL. Also, I'm mostly sad bc I grew up in the Moore era and desperately wanted him to succeed as a kid
@@LocalShark22 yeah I really liked Moore growing up to he pitched in my first and only time going to an mlb game
Seth Segal Ryan yarbrough. That is all.
“Paddack came off of TJ surgery great, knock on wood”
Proceeds to make a video about how bad he was a year later
He fell off, I feel bad he was talented
What r u doing here 😂
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Well he just won a Japan Series as the #2 starter for the Fukuoka Hawks, so there's that.
@@TheBrainSpecialist good for him
You make really good videos. You deserve more audience. You have a new subscriber.
thank you
Dunno how I am just watching this now..
I remember Matt Moore in 2011!!
yo this channel is a hidden gem holy crap keep up the good work bro
Great Video! I’m sure your going to blow up soon
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Just discovered this channel, so glad to see one of the most popular videos is about my Rays! Classic Rays move to flip Moore for prospects, although it's unfortunate his injuries kept him from fulfilling the high expectations upon him
I watched him play with the Giants in the second half of 2016. In 2017, it was like seeing a totally different player, and unfortunately, not for the better. I think he peaked in the 2016 playoff start against the Cubs. He seemed to be a very nice guy and always wish him the best.
Really good video! Learned a lot about Matt Moore, and it was entertaining!
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i love this dude since he had a 1.1 era for me in relief in mlb the show 21
Love your videos and topics brother!
He had a good season in Softbank Hawks of Japanese professional league NPB. 6W3L 2.65ERA K/9 over 9 in 13 starts. Moore pitched in G3 of 2020 Japan Series with 7IP, 0H, 0ER. Hawks won championship in G4.
It’s because sliders and bad pitching mechanics not being addressed by coaches and teammates…sliders are the hot pitch of the century not they are hell on the elbow ligaments
As a Rays fan I watched as he was drafted. All the hype and looks of a top flight pitcher. We had an amazing rotation and he was supposed to be the crown jewel.
He’s actually pitching pretty well right now for the rangers
As a braves fan and I'm not sure if you have. But I would love a video on juilo Teheran
great video man! love your stuff. keep it up!
Thanks!
Matt Moore newest Angel!
Actually Moore didn’t “elect” the surgery. It was a requirement of his contract the refusal of which would have seen him likely immediately released. How can I know that? Because that’s what Houston did to their badass closer Roberto Osuna when he opted not to have the surgery and take the “rest and rehab” approach. The Astros were paying Osuna 10 million dollars a year for that arm and were paying several million more in support staff for it. It’s crazy to think that you can sign a contract that essentially gives your employer rights to determine your medical care but, that’s MLB for ya;)
Wow, and he’s now in Japan, Osuna that is.
As a huge rays fan I’ll never forget the outing Moore had vs Texas in the alds. Hopefully Tampa can help him out
0:42 he's my second cousin lets goo
My cousin in NM played this guy and his brother growing up. Said he was filthy. His brother tore up his arm trying to get to the pros. Sad
What was the 2nd song that was used?
i thought i was missing something with matt moore the chiefs player. i thought you were gonna say eventually he gave up on baseball and went to football.
Delmon Young was ranked ahead of Evan Longoria in the Ray's farm system?
Delmon Young was the number 1 prospect in all of baseball for a little while.
Delmon spent his prime on the twins. He physically had all the tools but mentally couldn't put it together. Struggled to hit the curve and was exposed as a terrible fielder
poop mcgee He actually had a decent career. He’s just considered a “bust” because he was supposed to be a perennial mvp caliber player.
I remember the almost no hitter as a Dodger fan. I respected Moore, but was very happy with not being no hit by the Giants even while still losing.
Ik I’m late but when you said Mobile Baybears I cringed a little 😂 Great Video though 🤙🏼
i never heard of him that crazy
saw this guy pitch at fenway park alds game 1 2013
Tanaka never had Tommy John surgery. He opted to do rehab and never needed it. He basically continued to pitch on a string of an elbow ligament and was the ace of the Yankees pitching staff while doing it. IMO he was definitely worth his contract. Also; Tommy John surgery has success rate in the 80%ish range for major league pitchers. I do understand however that less than that come back with the same stuff they had before. However; Jacob DeGrom, Jose Fernandez, Luis Severino just to name a few have all recently had the surgery and have come back with no discernible difference in their pure pitch effectiveness. They all still have their velocity, spin, and break.
Matt Moore
As of right now.
2019: Missed rest of the season. Posting a 0 era and 9 k’s
2020: Opted Out cause of Covid.
2021: Signs 1 year deal with Phillies. Doesn’t work well with a 2-4 record and a 6.29 ERA
2022 So Far: Moore looks like he’s good again but how long? Who knows. A 4-2 record with a 1.73 ERA before All Star Break is astounding. He looks to be the Matt Moore we waited for at last.
Do what happened to jurrickson profar
You were saying how his 2013 stats were much better than his 2012 stats, but how so? He had more wins, sure, but he pitched 27 less innings, had less K/9, and had more BB/9. Yes his ERA went down, but luck is a big thing in baseball
i agree his stats deff weren't better
I was so excited when the Rangers signed Matt Moore. I loved him as a Ray. Then he just stepped on the field, took a gigantic shit and disappeared
That must have been something. Seeing a grown man take a shit in front of everyone.
As a dolphins and giants fan, one of my favorite things ever was having a Matt Moore on both teams at the same time.
Ok ik I was going crazy thinking that someone with that name played in the NFL
I remember them comparing his delivery to Stephen Strasburg's to show how you should throw the ball to not injure your arm. While Strasburg has been injured multiple times and never changed his delivery, he had a way better career than Matt Moore despite the delivery.
I know I’m a little late but Matt Moore is actually my second cousin. I have never met him but I have met his dad Marty Moore. I feel so bad for him.
Anybody else cringe when he mispronounced Mobile??
2023 1.44 era in 25 innings of relief for the angels
last I heard he was the backup to Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City,
...or is that a different guy?
I’m so glad shohei was able to escape the grasps of tommy John demise. Imagine if he didn’t go off this season.
Giants fan here, Matt did very well in that game 4, that God awful blowpen still pisses me off 🙄
Do what happened to deven travis
Looking back, Moore has turned into a good bullpen guy for the Rangers
Hopefully my Phil's found a diamond in the rough.
Injured as of April 19, 2021. I hope he heals up quick and gets back on track.
It’s simple. He’s just a pitcher🤷🏼♂️
Im a rangers fan and he is lights out as a reliever
Back when I was in High School I was working on throwing a better curveball and I saw this video posted by the Charlotte Stone Crabs on TH-cam. It had very little views (maybe 3k-5k). But the video was of Stone Crabs Pitcher Matt Moore. His career might’ve not panned out like he hoped. But he taught me a NASTY Knuckle curve. Lmao
Why did you insert the 'lmao' at the end of your comment.
Ohh whattt, I had no idea he was from moriarty, we have so many good baseball players from ew Mexico that no one ever talks about
That’s true, Mitch garver, ken Giles and of course Alex Bregman are all great players (yes I know, bang bang, but he’s still good)
Was that a misspelling or is New Mexico that bad? Just curious. I've never heard that before. Kinda funny.
rbrtgrdn no it was an accident but a funny one😂
Seal of Approval yeah bro Alex Bergman lost his virginity to a family friend 😂 we live close to him in northeast abq. They’re rich af, his dads a huge attorney for abq
Seal of Approval and Mitch garver went to my highschool and my coaches never said one word about him while he was having an all star season😂 and his jersey is on our freaking scoreboard 😂
This is an SB Nation-style video
Great video, dude
@@robertkruse6035 thanks!
Or foolish baseball
Omg i forgot about him. Idk how I forgot about him. I’m a long time rays fan.
Anyone see the kid flossing in the back right at 0:35
What a feeble attempt.
2022 and he has a 1.95 era in 74 innings with a 2.98 fip
He’s now not pitching on my favorite team, the Phillies
Damn dude you don’t have a single dislike
Matt Moore was a Great/Underrated Pitcher in his time but I personally believe he was way ahead of his time IMO...
To anybody that’s watching this remember y’all, Keep Going & Be Safe 🤟🏾💯
Rangers fan here. It’s obvious in 2018 that his stuff just wasn’t fooling anybody. That paired with poor command is not good at all.
That's a shame. I wonder how he will do in Japan.
SportStorm I hope he does good. Always sucks to see someone’s career derailed by one injury
You may never know. Maybe he can become the next Miles Mikolas who storm the major league after pitching in Japan. Also, there is a guy named Mike Minor who comeback from serious shoulder injury and ranked top 10 in Cy Young in 2019.
Tommy John took away such a stud 😔 our roto was looking good with him and Garza
Was at that game where he almost threw a no hitter against the Dodgers, thankfully Seager came thru on his bobble head night😂
Early 2010s Tampa Bay Rays Matt Moore was my least favorite pitcher for the Yankees to face. Dude was a beast. Good luck Matt
Do mark prior. Moore reminds me of him
Phillies are hoping he gets it back together. They are desperate for a lefty in the rotation so he should get a fair shot.
Calling it now, the Rays are going to become the AL version of the Cardinals: Small market team with the most bs farm system and a seemingly unending army of cy youngs
Rays are basically billy beanes moneyball team every year... but I wouldn’t say bs farm system rays basically traded away everything in the 10’s and now have the best farm system in league according to mlb.com and talent pipeline etc. but funny you mention the army of cy youngs considering 9 pitchers are injured right now and even with that they still manage to deal with Glasnow snell and cash basically pitching with relievers the whole game sometimes
Crazy to think what the rays would be right now if all the pitchers were healthy
Phillies need this Matt Moore
Not to be confused with Matt Moore the NFL Quarterback.
Not everyone comes back after Tommy John. Perfect example
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Moore on the Phillies isn’t great, but you can see . He truly wants to help the Phillies and he tries his hardest every performance
Matt Moore’s comeback story with the Phillies
No
When injuries ruin great players :O(
I agree but pitchers and hitters are different so you could say he was better then Tanaka
Moore starts for the Phillies tonight against deGrom!
The problem has been there for decades. Pitchers with filthy stuff are told in the minors that they have great mechanics and that they'll have long careers when, in reality, they're obviously destroying their arms. Teams just gamble on getting a few good years out of young pitchers. After that, it's borrowed time. Maybe they can trade them before the damage catches up and get a little more for their investment...maybe not...fix the issue by cleaning up the mechanics and putting less emphasis on certain pitches and you lose the filthy stuff...
Anybody realize how him with a beard looks kinda like Altuve?
Zachary Denker not really lol
HES GOT ANOTHER CHANCE WITH THE PHILLIES WHAT THIS VIDEO SAVED HIM
Hector Rondon too
I mean a flame throwing lefty in 2012 was a hot commodity.
It’s a hot commodity in 2021. Probably will be in 2041
He got traded out of TB is what happened 😂 guy was as wild as it comes though. Always a 3-2 count
The knocking on wood with paddack didn’t help
Can the angels please sign this man
Ohhh this is why the Dodgers don’t like long term deals
Very sad story
I can't feel sorry for Matt Moore. He made $30 million, so enjoy your life dude !!
You seriously can't feel sorry for a guy who missed out on having a great career due to injury?!
For these stories to work you have to take money out of the equation
You must not understand competition beyond money.
You apparently think money is literally the only thing that matters....hallmark of a complete loser. I feel sorry for you.
Matt even said in one of his interviews that he doesn't do it for money, he is trying to have fun while he still can, so yes I do feel bad cause baseball is America's pass time and he isn't able to experience that in the MLB, he did sign with a Japanese team but it's still not the same
I got his autograph....85% of people whose autograph I get become cursed. (Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, etc.). Sorry Mr. Moore I've since stopped collecting.
I was at that game
And then he throws a no hitter through 6
You forgot to knock on wood with Shohei! :~{
He on the phillies now tho so thats cool
PHILLIES Starting PITCHER
I didn’t know winning “Gatorade High School Player of the Year” and being drafted in the 8th Round out of High School classifies You as a “Hidden Gem.” Lol
In baseball being drafted in the 8th round and becoming a THE top prospect is very very very rare. In fact, he is probably the only guy drafted outside the top 2 rounds to ever reach such status.