This is one of the best talk I have ever sat to listen to.... PLO, If you want to show how great a dancer you are show us through a rehearsal.... Oh boy!!!
PLO and Barak you have it guyz.... Re-listening/playing again this morning to see if may have missed something 🤔. Thiss actually the reality state of our nation.
Awesome!!!!! We are the co-authors of the current misfortunes. Unless you and I get up, we shall not experience any miracle in whichever form!! Well done gentlemen.
A fine illustration of the seemingly endless paradox wherein a plurality of the greatest minds and their reformatory and remedial ideas are too far removed from real power to affect proceedings for the greater good. The crisis of intellectual capital bites even harder as many promising people become corrupted beyond recognition once in power. Progress continues to be excruciatingly slow.
Politics isn't about intellect rather emotions. That's why intellectual never have capacity to arose masses because they function on reality of casual relations.
This is a nice one "If you want to demonstrate how good a dancer you are, show us during the rehearsal and during rehearsals we have not seen great dancers" A good one Daktari.,....
The problem about those in government is that they take that as a high time or a direct ticket to access the fattest parts of this nation. We are also co-authors of our own problems whereby we all struggle to produce one of our own into the diaspora infact it's so bad of us. During the rehearsals we haven't seen any great dancer 😂😂😂😂... Hard truth.
"Vision, maturity of the populace, discipline, dignity and mutual respect..." Character determines who will be what they say they are. CHARACTER, NOT WORDS. Let's look at these people deeply...but is the population mature enough to be entrusted with defining choices? A people that can blindly put a Sonko into leadership?
It is so sad that even after hearing this two speak we will still make the same mistake they are talking about, we are by default broken, wired to repeat the same mistake even if we almost doubted it and saw clearly, we still fall to the same trap...
Prof.PLO it is good you have been blessed by God to see these dancers .Why don't you also dance so that we can learn from your dance so that concious decision is conveniently made.
Hooo. I mised to listen live these two great Kenyan thinkers. Atleast i have listen your conversation and rich insights. Very impressive. Kenyans we need to have personal introspection in analysing our political leaders by not listening their dances but inner self.
Me here listening...to the best brain of our time...truth be told...if good people are not going to led then the bad one will...and other good people will suffer...karibu Kenya where politicians wakona ujinga ya kila aina
This talk is the best ever, had to listen again and again. Smart brains, dressing, mature, talking sense, no abusive language......OooooMy..,...bring them again please.
Who are Kenyans? We're kambas, kikuyus,taitas, kales,...etc, ad infinitum...first. We only become Kenyans during the sports. How I wish elections were a sport!!
@@michaelblack7043 ukabila is the sickness that you have,tano tena imekupeleka wapi?you are one of the illiterate people who have been making wrong decisions,you are the kind who say "huyu ni mwizi wetu,amekuibia nini?"shame on you!.
That English isn't for the public, some of us schooled abit so too much vocabulary is more than most can take but you guys are speaking the stark naked truth 👍
We must be those insane that were talked about in that definition about always doing the same thing , and always expecting different results . We are still doing what we've always done ie being tribal , voting same guys , listening to recycled slogans , fighting after elections etc and being surprised when nothing changes .
Jeff we request you bring The Man of God Prophet Dr Owuor in your show. It's high time you bring him on board to give counsel on where the country should head because it's clear, in front here things will be bad and chaotic according even to the panels discussion. Kindly we request
What these two brilliant men are saying is extremely obvious yet they need to re-iterate it over and over which is sad and a poor reflection of the Kenyan society at large. It is obvious that when you have politicians in power who do not serve the needs of the people and rather profit themselves, that the people should not vote them back into office and instead vote for better leaders who will have their best interests at heart. It's not rocket science, but somehow the majority of the Kenyan public do not seem to see this simple fact. It saddens me to see that Ruto is currently the front runner for the upcoming 2022 elections, despite all of the scandals and the massive debt that his government has put Kenya in, in the name of "development". Meanwhile his net worth has increased exponentially during his past 10 years as vice president. Kenyans let's wake up please, at this current trajectory we are looking at certain doom. We can't do the same thing over and over and except different results, that's insanity.
We live in era of new dispensation but being presided over by addicts of the old dispensation and that’s the big problem. Unless these old dispensation addicts give way , I am afraid we’ll remain in this crap for quite awhile., what a shame!
Two grown learned men sitting down to analyse and discuss other men who are actually walking the talk.This Muluka guy talks a lot but if you listen to him carefully you soon realize that there's nothing new that he is saying..basically there's no difference between what mama mboga can tell you in the streets and what muluka is saying..the only difference is muluka wants to sound like plato but is still saying nothing
Sisyphus, mountain philosophy notwithstanding we know what belief these two Kenyans have demonstrated. We are not blind. I refuse to be bamboozled by the English.
B4 everything else and as much as politics is concerned, The media by itself is political to the core, Royal media is ODM TV, Even a kid can tell that its owners are singing Kumbaya with the former premier.
I really respect people who speak their mind without involving too much jargon and similes. Using such language only reduces the number of people who actually understand what you are saying. As Albert Einstein stated "If you cannot explain it to a six year old, then you don't understand it yourself."
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Can we just give it up for the sign language madam...she's doing so well am even learning in the process....good job ma'am❤
good
Good job
Credit
someone pointing fingers everywhere can't have my attention
But you did already😂😂😂thats why you replying @Samuel Sam
This is one of the best talk I have ever sat to listen to....
PLO, If you want to show how great a dancer you are show us through a rehearsal.... Oh boy!!!
PLO said it all. I just love the level of his honesty. He speaks it without blinking.
allows us to use dictionary between sentences....love the duo full of knowledge n wisdom
PLO and Barak you have it guyz.... Re-listening/playing again this morning to see if may have missed something 🤔. Thiss actually the reality state of our nation.
Mzee kibor
PLO is the brain that Kenya needs. I Can listen to him the whole day
The same to me, I love mostly this PLO
Me too
Professor you are telling the truth if they don't listen to you it's too bad the situation is as you have just said. God bless t.
My two orator models. I wish I can hear both of you every day. Sometimes I feel like I never went to school Lol. The best team ever.
Great wisdom from these great senior citizens.
Awesome!!!!! We are the co-authors of the current misfortunes. Unless you and I get up, we shall not experience any miracle in whichever form!! Well done gentlemen.
Kudos to the sign language interpreter for keeping up with PLO. Kudos!!!
These two gentlemen are well-read, there overtune of sarcasm is plus.surely i can listen to them 24/7, they are just awesome.
Lumumba is a great man, with lot of wisdom
No sugar coating. Great gentlemen teamed with brains.
A fine illustration of the seemingly endless paradox wherein a plurality of the greatest minds and their reformatory and remedial ideas are too far removed from real power to affect proceedings for the greater good. The crisis of intellectual capital bites even harder as many promising people become corrupted beyond recognition once in power. Progress continues to be excruciatingly slow.
Politics isn't about intellect rather emotions. That's why intellectual never have capacity to arose masses because they function on reality of casual relations.
This is a nice one "If you want to demonstrate how good a dancer you are, show us during the rehearsal and during rehearsals we have not seen great dancers" A good one Daktari.,....
Mmmmh,great men of letters !! Am impressed by the depth of knowledge they exhibit esp of the classic lore.
The problem about those in government is that they take that as a high time or a direct ticket to access the fattest parts of this nation. We are also co-authors of our own problems whereby we all struggle to produce one of our own into the diaspora infact it's so bad of us. During the rehearsals we haven't seen any great dancer 😂😂😂😂... Hard truth.
Pure wisdom, i just wish we could put the two at the helm!
Wisdom to its fullest.
Two great minds on the bench, no politicking, no play hide and go seek but purely great ideas.
Sign language madam is having a hard time there.. she's must be very smart 💪💪
"Vision, maturity of the populace, discipline, dignity and mutual respect..." Character determines who will be what they say they are. CHARACTER, NOT WORDS. Let's look at these people deeply...but is the population mature enough to be entrusted with defining choices? A people that can blindly put a Sonko into leadership?
It is so sad that even after hearing this two speak we will still make the same mistake they are talking about, we are by default broken, wired to repeat the same mistake even if we almost doubted it and saw clearly, we still fall to the same trap...
sad
Prof.PLO it is good you have been blessed by God to see these dancers .Why don't you also dance so that we can learn from your dance so that concious decision is conveniently made.
..I AM WONDERING HOW THE SIGN LANGUAGE LADY IS CATCHING UP!! AM WONDERING...
Professionals will rather go Ruto, but politicians will go where the door of theft is.
Hooo. I mised to listen live these two great Kenyan thinkers. Atleast i have listen your conversation and rich insights. Very impressive. Kenyans we need to have personal introspection in analysing our political leaders by not listening their dances but inner self.
These two guys are the best
PLO i can listen to you the whole day
If PLO vied for presidency
My vote would be his
How I wish one of our president would take these men into the inner circle of governance??
The more things change the more they remain the same
Me here listening...to the best brain of our time...truth be told...if good people are not going to led then the bad one will...and other good people will suffer...karibu Kenya where politicians wakona ujinga ya kila aina
Wow great interview ...mgaga should tell us which magics he will uses that he didn't use when he was pm
Yes he was prime minister with no powers 🤣🤣🤣
Lumumba should be actually the President of Kenya
People like Lumumba are not elected but imposed to straighten up things.
If plo lumumba declare to contest for presidency I will campaign for him bare foot until the whole kenya vote for him
Good people are never elected but imposed to straighten up things.
Haaaaa jixo kisungu alishidwa kufunga mbuta,akafuga omena
Like the Eloquency. Thoughts, and views.
Now I feel like i never learnt English when these two talk
This talk is the best ever, had to listen again and again. Smart brains, dressing, mature, talking sense, no abusive language......OooooMy..,...bring them again please.
Hahaha kwel pio Lumumba your language and English is very excellent actually just go slowly to understand you plz bt keep it up
We kenyans must wake up
Who are Kenyans? We're kambas, kikuyus,taitas, kales,...etc, ad infinitum...first. We only become Kenyans during the sports. How I wish elections were a sport!!
Huyu mzee hatar Sana Hawa Ndio watu wanaweza kuijenga jamii kifkra ikawa na hamu ya ukombozi...... shifting ideas from Presidents to dancers
Great vocabulary and diction of words
Plo should be the presidents advicer
Or even the next president
Why. What has he done or achieved of note. He is just a big talker this one.
@@michaelblack7043 ukabila is the sickness that you have,tano tena imekupeleka wapi?you are one of the illiterate people who have been making wrong decisions,you are the kind who say "huyu ni mwizi wetu,amekuibia nini?"shame on you!.
That English isn't for the public, some of us schooled abit so too much vocabulary is more than most can take but you guys are speaking the stark naked truth 👍
Indeed it is a nice sober conversation Jeff
PLO they 'll dance nevertheless
We must be those insane that were talked about in that definition about always doing the same thing , and always expecting different results . We are still doing what we've always done ie being tribal , voting same guys , listening to recycled slogans , fighting after elections etc and being surprised when nothing changes .
Jeff we request you bring The Man of God Prophet Dr Owuor in your show. It's high time you bring him on board to give counsel on where the country should head because it's clear, in front here things will be bad and chaotic according even to the panels discussion. Kindly we request
this is the show I dare not to miss
Tenders should not be done by people in the government..Conflict of Interest
They hardly ever openly do. They always use proxies. Tendering 101.
@@Emgee101 youths cannot grow and they cannot make laws on conflict of interest
And MPs too, I dare add. That's where the country's problem begin.
@@geoffreyokatch6011 this is true. The issue is not the laws.Never has. The issue is enforcement.
Kudos Africans light PLO LUMUMBA
We've never had a leader in Kenya ,only politicians with selfish interests and goals.
Am replaying this soooooo real soooo practical
Muluka is articulate!
Please Jeff bring them more often for the talk shows such might just trigger better decisions on the Kenyan thinking 🤔.My thought though....
The two guys💪💪
The dictionary is now in use
Once tribalism exists in your DNA there is no hope.
very true,tribalism is the biggest virus that is killing kenya at a very high speed,its such a shame!
Constitutional Education supposed to be in this CBC
PLO is a walking dictionary. It literally makes the other doctor feel like he is an undergraduate.
Tell them lumumba 😂😂🇰🇪🇰🇪🇪🇺🇪🇺
Well said
It true all over the world am in USA it is even more
We are sleep walkers
Most people are commenting about the eloquence of the 2 but are missing the eulogy being read. Kenya is slowly descending into God knows what.
Kenyans are been warned but they will cry one day
What these two brilliant men are saying is extremely obvious yet they need to re-iterate it over and over which is sad and a poor reflection of the Kenyan society at large. It is obvious that when you have politicians in power who do not serve the needs of the people and rather profit themselves, that the people should not vote them back into office and instead vote for better leaders who will have their best interests at heart. It's not rocket science, but somehow the majority of the Kenyan public do not seem to see this simple fact. It saddens me to see that Ruto is currently the front runner for the upcoming 2022 elections, despite all of the scandals and the massive debt that his government has put Kenya in, in the name of "development". Meanwhile his net worth has increased exponentially during his past 10 years as vice president. Kenyans let's wake up please, at this current trajectory we are looking at certain doom. We can't do the same thing over and over and except different results, that's insanity.
We live in era of new dispensation but being presided over by addicts of the old dispensation and that’s the big problem. Unless these old dispensation addicts give way , I am afraid we’ll remain in this crap for quite awhile., what a shame!
That's True John Jam
Again PLO was a lawyer for who...during the presidential petition..🤔🤔🤔
Iebc
Kingerezwa inachapwa hapa weeeh ningekuwa singechangia🤣🤣🤣 now who is the angel of mischief cheey
2007 ⛪🔥 🏹 we will NEVER FORGET!!
These individuals Cannae even understand the English that is here
Did i miss something as Kibaki left office? Can a referee get into the field and support one team? If so how will the other team behave?
Masters of grandiloquence
The solution is to stop watching news
Two grown learned men sitting down to analyse and discuss other men who are actually walking the talk.This Muluka guy talks a lot but if you listen to him carefully you soon realize that there's nothing new that he is saying..basically there's no difference between what mama mboga can tell you in the streets and what muluka is saying..the only difference is muluka wants to sound like plato but is still saying nothing
Just Intellect Talking Facts ....Without Raising Voices and Blame Game ......Hehe Hawa Politicians Wetu cam they carry themselves ivo?
@koinangejeff
Ongeza volume please
These guy's are bright but their father's we're not known this is kenya
👍
Mi nimezoea mateso yangu...hizi vizungu hazijawai nisaidia..,
all we do is talk.... then back to business
Very true. Big words for nothing.
Bring them back again
Sisyphus, mountain philosophy notwithstanding we know what belief these two Kenyans have demonstrated. We are not blind.
I refuse to be bamboozled by the English.
Plo nakubali baba.
They can not be given chance Mr regal
Prof.PLO with alot of English but when he was at the helm of KACC he did nothing absolutely,Bure kabisa
I said the same thing ... one of the most empty talkers I have ever heard. Just loves listening to his own voice. But cant do anything practical.
On Tenterhooks
Throats are cut by cutthroat cats and cuts😂
Hey 😊
Sad state of mother Kenya 🇰🇪
JEFF AND PROF OTIENO LUMUMBA SEEM TO BE UNHAPPY WHY????
He's uhuru sympathiser n citizen too
The Presidential acrobatics we see its singe the constitution is working
Nice
Ni sawa tu
Now we need translater because hard english is in studio now
We need a Kenyan president not as president Ouru say tribes is thinking like 1924 thinker
Learned friends
B4 everything else and as much as politics is concerned, The media by itself is political to the core, Royal media is ODM TV, Even a kid can tell that its owners are singing Kumbaya with the former premier.
Kizungu mingi...
Too much technical terms.
Willice ochieng' is missing from this panel.
next time kindly add , translations and citations. we are floating!
I really respect people who speak their mind without involving too much jargon and similes. Using such language only reduces the number of people who actually understand what you are saying. As Albert Einstein stated "If you cannot explain it to a six year old, then you don't understand it yourself."